we await your words of wisdom on the matter with anticipation Sega Lord X!!! :) Can't tell you how happy we am you are back. Been re-watching almost all your videos.
Thunder Force III was a blast; EGM's coverage was great hype and it delivered. Forgotten Worlds: Nice 2-player action once you get the controls, and good aesthetic.
Also absolutely take a look at Battle Mania Daiginjou. It's a japan exlusive sequel to trouble shooter and one of the best games on the system. Also the soundtrack is one of the best ever.
I really don't know many shoters tittles. I appreciate this video because, I could know new games of Sega Mega Drive base. I love this cannel. I am brazilian english student and I study watching it in my PC. Thank You for yours videos.
Gleylancer is freaking awesome. Didn't have it growing up but today it's one of my favorites for shootem' ups. My favorite always was Air Busters though since I grew up with it. Air busters came with that slick leather fingerless glove in box to make you feel like one badass nerd lol
I remember having a good time with Thunder Force 3, Chelnov (or Atomic Runner), Phelios, Bio Hazard Battle, and the cheesy Forgotten Worlds. It's difficult to pick a favorite one with such a huge library on the Genesis.
I loved MUSHA, and foolishly sold it before it skyrocketed in price. I love the music, especially the track "For the love of..." I liked the effects in MUSHA, like the tiles falling from the sky to the river below. My other favorite shooter was Lightning Force aka Thunder Force 4. I'd like to see a Genesis run and gun series as well.
Good Presentation, with abundant enough explanation on why the certain shooter, has depth and re-play value. Like the way mostly that you use, to justify the market price. Good presenter, better educational source guy!!!
IMO, MUSHA has pretty amazing graphics and sound for an early Genesis game. Nice chunky sprites, great looking explosions, very good use of color, simulated scaling & rotation effects, as well as awesome vertical line scrolling effects, like in that level where you fly over a chasm. Compared to Thunder Force II, it looks like it's from a different console gen. Hell, I can't think of any other Genesis vertical scrolling shmup that looks better. The soundtrack is one of my favorite early Genesis ones too. Very dynamic driving techno score with some guitar mixed in and most of the tunes have good hooks. First level track is probably my favorite. Compile knew exactly what kind of music to go for with that Yamaha FM chip.
Musha is underrated in the technical department. SO MUCH going on: lot of sprites + lot of individual enemy AI + great sense of depth via dual plane/column scrollings + lot of neat visual FX (pre-rendered scaling, transparent shadow, etc.)... Also nice anime-like introduction that was uncommon if not unseen at the time and the whole game runs in proper resolution of 320x224 pixels. All of this makes Musha stands out above most if not all shooters on competiting hardwares and the fact that it was a rather early release (December 1990) and that it relies solely on a tiny 4 meg cartridge makes it all the more impressive! But to its defense (and because I love it too) Thunder Force II MD was released much earlier (1 year and a half earlier) so for its time, it delivered.
I tend to agree about Musha Aleste. Some cool traditional-meets-mecha designs, but it never blew me away. Eliminate Down and Gleylancer knocked my socks off.
For me, it's absolutely MUSHA. It's true that graphically it's not that impressive, but that music is fantastic and the game play defines a great shooter for me. Excellent pacing and an excellent power up system. Steel Empire is another one of my favorites. Game play is competent and fun, and the game is just dripping with an uncommon style.
No doubt Vapor Trail is my favorite genesis shmup, but Elemental Master and Trouble Shooter are up there too. Sagaia is an amazing port of Darius 2, Phelios is a cool Ancient Greece inspired one, Bio Hazard Battle is insanely strange one but its pretty awesome, and for some reason, even though I acknowledge it's a weird choice, I enjoy the hell out of Task Force Harrier.
I was lucky enough to find damn near all of the Genesis shooters back in the days when I could find games for 2-5 bucks at any pawn shop, thrift store, or flea market I walked into. In my unpopular opinion, Thunder Force II is the best. The side-scrolling stages are masterpieces. I don't mind the overhead stages -- I think it improves the experience to get a break in the action doing the easy overhead levels before going back to the much tougher side scrolling mode. Thunder Force III has the best graphics and sound of the series, but it's so easy. Lightening Force is another masterpiece. Tecnosoft released 6 games on the Genesis, and they range from excellent to masterpiece. Beyond the TF series, Elemental Master and Gaiares were my faves.
I declare myself a big fan of steel empire. The gameplay was correct, not the best, but way above average. The upgrading of the weapons was standart. But for me the catch was the atmosphere and steampunk vibe. Those bosses were an absolute feast for the eyes.
I had a genesis schmup when I was a kid that I'm trying to remember the name of. From what I can remember I think it looked alot like After Burner (from Terminator 2) but one thing I remember without a doubt is there was a certain point of the game (it might have been when entering your initials) where the audio would keep repeating "Roger!" Whenever you pressed a certain button. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
While not the best in the series, my lord, Thunder Force II is a legendary shooter in its own right and it'll always have a special place in my heart (right next to Blazing Lazers and R-Type)...pew pew pew pew. P.S. While I do love me some MUSHA, all the praise that it gets, should by rights, go straight to Gaiares.
Man, no Troubleshooter? Thunderforce 3 or 4 (aka "Lightening Force" in the US, ugh)? Aero Buster? Nothing from Toaplan (Zero Wing, Truxton, Hellfire)? Sol-Deace/Feace? Check this games out, honestly, you might like them!
Back in 1989 Thunder Force II was the game that convinced me to buy a Genesis instead of TG16.. And it ´s still one of my favorite Genesis games. Heck, I´m still thinking on paying the full Price for Eliminate down. I have ROBO ALESTE on Sega CD not MUSHA and the game is very good, if MUSHA is similar then the game is not worth the 200 bucks Price.... The only thing I see wrong on Steel empire is the slow down that appears here and there, graphics are nice and interesting but yes they do not have parallax. Wings of Wor........ another shoot em up I really want.. u_u Gley Lancer........yet another expensive game that looks awesome.... Phantasy Zone does not appeal to me, but I will follow your recomendation. GAIARES... I was in love with it since the first time I saw the pictures on Electronic Gaming Monthly, I even have the magazine Die Hard Game Fan with the review for the game.. I was able to finish the game one time and only one ha ha ha.. It´s haaard. RAIDEN TRAD... tsss I have the game new and sealed since 1999.... Whip Rush is a good game. And Finally my favorite Shoot em ups on Genesis are. Thunder Force II Gaiares Thunder Force III. Forgotten Worlds (Yes, for me FW is a shmup). Thunder Force IV. PHELIOS. Bio Hazard Battle. Steel Empire.
I'm a big fan of fire shark and raiden trad. I agree with you about musha. It's ok, just nowhere near my favorite. I want to like grind stormer, but it's just too much for me and I've never managed to get past the 3rd stage.
I agree with you. There are _many_ shooters on the Genesis that I'd rather play over MUSHA. I don't really understand why the games is held in such high regard by some.
Played it for the first time a few days ago. Although i was aware of that game back when it came out. I admit there is some nice aspects of the game. Especially for an earlier title. However, i felt a disconnect with it thats hard to put into words. Also some spotty hit detection. I think this was Compile first game an as far as a technical point it showed what they were capable of. Its just to me i just didnt hit a chord for me. My fav schump till this day is Blazing Lazers..Thats come from a hardcore Sega Fan..
I thought shootemups generally fell a little short on Genesis considering what we got on NES & TurboGrafx. Still I like playing a lot of them. my favorite? yikes, no idea. Lots of good ones, they just all seem a little flat. Maybe Sunset Riders? still lots I haven't played...
Genesis was king of 16 bit shooters.. so much better than SNES in this one regard.. PC Engine also ultra strong competitor even though technically only 8 bit cpu (16 bit gpu).
Sorry Sega Lord X, but no old game is worth a 50/60 dollar price. Paying the same as a new game for a used game that came out way back for a console that is not on the market is whack.
Truxton, Grindstormer, Thunder force 4 a few of my favorites as well as most of your choices.
I really want to expand on this more. The Genesis was absolutely loaded with great shoot'em ups.
we await your words of wisdom on the matter with anticipation Sega Lord X!!! :) Can't tell you how happy we am you are back. Been re-watching almost all your videos.
biohazard battle, elemental master, adv of batman and robin, rocket knight adv, phelios ,sagaia, sky shark, etc
Yes! Truxton is pretty much my favorite shooter on the Genesis. It is a fun and challenging game.
Thunder Force III was a blast; EGM's coverage was great hype and it delivered. Forgotten Worlds: Nice 2-player action once you get the controls, and good aesthetic.
Air buster, troubleshooter, and elemental master are pretty good as well. I'm very happy your back!
Definitely will revisit this topic in the future. And thank you!
Also absolutely take a look at Battle Mania Daiginjou. It's a japan exlusive sequel to trouble shooter and one of the best games on the system. Also the soundtrack is one of the best ever.
I really don't know many shoters tittles. I appreciate this video because, I could know new games of Sega Mega Drive base. I love this cannel. I am brazilian english student and I study watching it in my PC. Thank You for yours videos.
These are some great choices! I like eliminate down so much!
MUSHA Aleste's soundtrack is quite possibly my favorite OST ever.
Gleylancer is freaking awesome. Didn't have it growing up but today it's one of my favorites for shootem' ups. My favorite always was Air Busters though since I grew up with it. Air busters came with that slick leather fingerless glove in box to make you feel like one badass nerd lol
Grenada, Lightening Force, Bio Hazard Battle, Twinkle Tale, Battle Mania Daiginjō, Task Force Harrier EX - all awesome
I remember having a good time with Thunder Force 3, Chelnov (or Atomic Runner), Phelios, Bio Hazard Battle, and the cheesy Forgotten Worlds. It's difficult to pick a favorite one with such a huge library on the Genesis.
I loved MUSHA, and foolishly sold it before it skyrocketed in price. I love the music, especially the track "For the love of..." I liked the effects in MUSHA, like the tiles falling from the sky to the river below. My other favorite shooter was Lightning Force aka Thunder Force 4. I'd like to see a Genesis run and gun series as well.
Hellfire and Ranger-Ex would be in my top ten Genesis shmups.
"Worth listening to while you mow the grass..." Awesome, lol. I do listen to game music while mowing.
I'm a guy that listens to as much video game music as I do traditional stuff. Just how I roll. :)
Good Presentation, with abundant enough explanation on why the certain shooter, has depth and re-play value. Like the way mostly that you use, to justify the market price. Good presenter, better educational source guy!!!
IMO, MUSHA has pretty amazing graphics and sound for an early Genesis game. Nice chunky sprites, great looking explosions, very good use of color, simulated scaling & rotation effects, as well as awesome vertical line scrolling effects, like in that level where you fly over a chasm. Compared to Thunder Force II, it looks like it's from a different console gen. Hell, I can't think of any other Genesis vertical scrolling shmup that looks better. The soundtrack is one of my favorite early Genesis ones too. Very dynamic driving techno score with some guitar mixed in and most of the tunes have good hooks. First level track is probably my favorite. Compile knew exactly what kind of music to go for with that Yamaha FM chip.
Musha is underrated in the technical department. SO MUCH going on: lot of sprites + lot of individual enemy AI + great sense of depth via dual plane/column scrollings + lot of neat visual FX (pre-rendered scaling, transparent shadow, etc.)... Also nice anime-like introduction that was uncommon if not unseen at the time and the whole game runs in proper resolution of 320x224 pixels. All of this makes Musha stands out above most if not all shooters on competiting hardwares and the fact that it was a rather early release (December 1990) and that it relies solely on a tiny 4 meg cartridge makes it all the more impressive!
But to its defense (and because I love it too) Thunder Force II MD was released much earlier (1 year and a half earlier) so for its time, it delivered.
Can't believe what you said about MUSHA! I even cried a little.
I remember mid 1998, Thunderforce 2 took the top of the charts. Thunderforce 2 was the game to have...in 1998. :D
Yeah, that definitely shoulda been 1988.
I tend to agree about Musha Aleste. Some cool traditional-meets-mecha designs, but it never blew me away. Eliminate Down and Gleylancer knocked my socks off.
For me, it's absolutely MUSHA. It's true that graphically it's not that impressive, but that music is fantastic and the game play defines a great shooter for me. Excellent pacing and an excellent power up system. Steel Empire is another one of my favorites. Game play is competent and fun, and the game is just dripping with an uncommon style.
Bio Hazard Battle is my fave. It makes up for the less than a minute, before I die in TF3, lol.
Battle Mania 1 and 2 are more or less my favorite games ever (at least in the shmup genre). They're also my favorite Sega games.
No doubt Vapor Trail is my favorite genesis shmup, but Elemental Master and Trouble Shooter are up there too. Sagaia is an amazing port of Darius 2, Phelios is a cool Ancient Greece inspired one, Bio Hazard Battle is insanely strange one but its pretty awesome, and for some reason, even though I acknowledge it's a weird choice, I enjoy the hell out of Task Force Harrier.
I agree, Task Force Harrier is dope!
Yes, some love for gynoug finally. That stage 1 music is amazing tho. And the boss sprites look great.
I was lucky enough to find damn near all of the Genesis shooters back in the days when I could find games for 2-5 bucks at any pawn shop, thrift store, or flea market I walked into. In my unpopular opinion, Thunder Force II is the best. The side-scrolling stages are masterpieces. I don't mind the overhead stages -- I think it improves the experience to get a break in the action doing the easy overhead levels before going back to the much tougher side scrolling mode. Thunder Force III has the best graphics and sound of the series, but it's so easy. Lightening Force is another masterpiece. Tecnosoft released 6 games on the Genesis, and they range from excellent to masterpiece. Beyond the TF series, Elemental Master and Gaiares were my faves.
I declare myself a big fan of steel empire. The gameplay was correct, not the best, but way above average. The upgrading of the weapons was standart. But for me the catch was the atmosphere and steampunk vibe. Those bosses were an absolute feast for the eyes.
Insector X has always been my favorite shmup on Sega Genesis
Fire Shark was another good one.
I had a genesis schmup when I was a kid that I'm trying to remember the name of. From what I can remember I think it looked alot like After Burner (from Terminator 2) but one thing I remember without a doubt is there was a certain point of the game (it might have been when entering your initials) where the audio would keep repeating "Roger!" Whenever you pressed a certain button. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
Thunder force IV is the best shoot'em up on the system and in my opinion the best horizontal shoot'em up ever.
I gotta be honest. I never could get into it personally.
I've beaten Truxton, Thunder Force II and Sol-Deace on my channel. Also beaten Bio-Hazard Battle offscreen.
While not the best in the series, my lord, Thunder Force II is a legendary shooter in its own right and it'll always have a special place in my heart (right next to Blazing Lazers and R-Type)...pew pew pew pew.
P.S. While I do love me some MUSHA, all the praise that it gets, should by rights, go straight to Gaiares.
Man, no Troubleshooter? Thunderforce 3 or 4 (aka "Lightening Force" in the US, ugh)? Aero Buster? Nothing from Toaplan (Zero Wing, Truxton, Hellfire)? Sol-Deace/Feace? Check this games out, honestly, you might like them!
Love your channel! Please do an RPGs on Sega vid
Back in 1989 Thunder Force II was the game that convinced me to buy a Genesis instead of TG16.. And it ´s still one of my favorite Genesis games.
Heck, I´m still thinking on paying the full Price for Eliminate down. I have ROBO ALESTE on Sega CD not MUSHA and the game is very good, if MUSHA is similar then the game is not worth the 200 bucks Price....
The only thing I see wrong on Steel empire is the slow down that appears here and there, graphics are nice and interesting but yes they do not have parallax.
Wings of Wor........ another shoot em up I really want.. u_u
Gley Lancer........yet another expensive game that looks awesome.... Phantasy Zone does not appeal to me, but I will follow your recomendation.
GAIARES... I was in love with it since the first time I saw the pictures on Electronic Gaming Monthly, I even have the magazine Die Hard Game Fan with the review for the game.. I was able to finish the game one time and only one ha ha ha.. It´s haaard.
RAIDEN TRAD... tsss I have the game new and sealed since 1999.... Whip Rush is a good game.
And Finally my favorite Shoot em ups on Genesis are.
Thunder Force II
Gaiares
Thunder Force III.
Forgotten Worlds (Yes, for me FW is a shmup).
Thunder Force IV.
PHELIOS.
Bio Hazard Battle.
Steel Empire.
you talk like your a sega genesis news caster I dig it XD
You definitely need to play Thunder Force 3 great game awesome music not too difficult
Do you really think a youtuber named Sega Lord x hasnt played something that popular??? Rofl dude.
Wow about 80% of these shooters I never knew existed.
Grindstormer, Musha Aleste, Raiden, Darwin 4078 and Zero Wing for me
Insector X. Mic drop!
Anyone else watching this video that hates shooters and think they’re boring but watching it just because you like the narrator he’s funny! Lol
Gaiares, the greatest.
Hellfire and Zero Wing are deeply missed. Cool video, though.
What about Insector X?
There is never love for Twin Cobra
M.U.S.H.A. / Hellfire / Vapor Trail / Thunderforce IV/ Twin Hawk / Elemental Master / Aero Blasters
Truxton. If you like shooters you have to play it.
I'm a big fan of fire shark and raiden trad. I agree with you about musha. It's ok, just nowhere near my favorite. I want to like grind stormer, but it's just too much for me and I've never managed to get past the 3rd stage.
There's a number of shooters like that out there for me. I want to like them, but just couldn't like them enough to put in the time to get good.
I agree with you. There are _many_ shooters on the Genesis that I'd rather play over MUSHA. I don't really understand why the games is held in such high regard by some.
Played it for the first time a few days ago. Although i was aware of that game back when it came out. I admit there is some nice aspects of the game. Especially for an earlier title. However, i felt a disconnect with it thats hard to put into words. Also some spotty hit detection. I think this was Compile first game an as far as a technical point it showed what they were capable of. Its just to me i just didnt hit a chord for me. My fav schump till this day is Blazing Lazers..Thats come from a hardcore Sega Fan..
For me: GAIARES, TF 2 AND 3, and TRUXTON.
Plz talk about Vapor Trail in next ep
I thought shootemups generally fell a little short on Genesis considering what we got on NES & TurboGrafx. Still I like playing a lot of them. my favorite? yikes, no idea. Lots of good ones, they just all seem a little flat. Maybe Sunset Riders? still lots I haven't played...
Gynoug, according to its Japanese box art, is pronounced "jee no goo" (you can skip the 'oo' after the last G when saying it, so just 'jeeno-g.'
Truxton.
Genesis was king of 16 bit shooters.. so much better than SNES in this one regard.. PC Engine also ultra strong competitor even though technically only 8 bit cpu (16 bit gpu).
8 BIt Cpu although 8 Bit it was one of the better 8 Bit Cpu at the time.
No love for Bio Hazard
Love the channel, just wish you'd change that NFL hat....I can't even stomach seeing that dumb emblem at this point
Me love your videos. Me smash.
arrow flash - target earth - thunder force 3 - air busters and im glad wings of war was on this list
yea, musha never did anything fore me at all. thundr force 4 is a masterpiece tho.
Hahahahaha
I must try out Steel Empire. MUSHA however seems completely overrated.
Not a fan of M.U.S.H.A.??? Unsubbed.
Sorry Sega Lord X, but no old game is worth a 50/60 dollar price. Paying the same as a new game for a used game that came out way back for a console that is not on the market is whack.
I can't understand the admiration that you guys have for Fantasy Zone. I've never liked it at all.