Coming from a fully-rigid mtb (is that now a "flat bar gravel" bike?!) to my first full-sus bike this year, I'm still disproportionately overjoyed by front suspension and dropper posts. I reckon everyone should occasionally ride rigid bikes on natural trails to appreciate the benefit of the progress that's been made and now taken for granted!
Fully agreed - rigid MTB bikes can be a real hoot on the right trails - and also agree that once you've ridden with a dropper and suspension its harder to go back to the trails without - and yes it is an excellent reminder of the progress we've had! Cheers Owen
they aren't common sadly but you can find 3 position shocks and forks (like the current fox factory SL line) I've got 2022 fox ones bought on sale and locked they barely move like 1 pinky finger thickness sag and barely move when pedaling I did nasty ascents on it 15-21% and high elevation on road or hard trails and you don't feel the pumping there's no reason to buy a hardtail other than cost obviously that upgrade (on a full susp bike that had horrible entry level rockshox) made with end of season prices still cost me around 1100USD the middle setting makes you go faster than a hardtail on bumpy trails (strava medals a plenty after I upgraded) as it has a bit of pumping but in exchange your pedaling cadence is much smoother even if you are already a spd rider how can i explain this...your bottom bracket has less up and down so you pedal on a more stable "average height"
Doing a lower leg service on my front fork. The feeling of getting back on the bike after even just cleaning up the cartridges and lower legs makes my fork feel like new again. Love it. Doing a sealant refresh on a tire and hearing the beads pop into place after tire reinstall is an honorable mention.
I have to admit that I would enjoy all of the new/old items with new features. The one thing that I would disagree with however is Merino wool.I've worn it for lots and lots of years, and have used it as a layer under something that can breathe...most of the time a vest. I live in the mountains of Maine, so whether it's on a bike, nordic or downhill ski's or snowshoes, I've never had an issue with overheating or being wet from sweat. I also realize that we are all different., As for frigid bikes, have always had a rigid mtn bike, and my fatbike is rigid as well...Anyway, the fact that we can choose to use or not use these innovations is incredible for sure. Thanks for sharing!
I upgraded my grips to the new Ergon ones with the flares and also added a Ergon eMTB specific saddle. Has made my rides so much more enjoyable and comfortable.
Fun part with shimano groupsets is that you can get an XT shifter (which not that much more expensive than the base deore) and pair it with a deore groupset and just like that you have a more "premium" functionality for cheap!
Hardtail with a rigid fork! And dropbars! Salsa Cutthroat - mine is running 2.4's withan SRAM AXS Eagle mtn drivetrain (38t chainring with a 10-52 cassette). It work *great*.
Sounds great! Drop bar MTB's can be awesome on the right trails - also yes to the chonk 2.4 tyres - lots of very tuneable air suspension in those! Cheers Owen
How I ended up with a flat bar gravel bike... 1) Purchased a Cannondale topstone 4 1x 2) as a mountain biker hated drops with a passion. 3) Proceeded to install flatbars and mtb hydro brakes. Its the best for railtrails and around town riding. Great for riding with the kids and family.
1:55 I have a 11s Deore on my hardtail and 12s Deore on my full sus and honestly it's all you need. Sure, fancy drivetrains are cool but those are wearable items and the difference is not that big. It's the last piece of bike on my upgrade list.
I’ve found E3’s shrader valves the best purchase this year, and actually has brought unexpected joy to my life. Like Owen, I switch between multiple sets of tires throughout the year, and those valves allow me to use a relatively small air compressor to seat any tire with ease. Haven’t cursed a tire install this year so far! 😅👍
CUES ! That is what I’m getting nerdy for . Recently got a group set and have been enjoying shifting up or down when I want to rather than when it’s convenient for my cassette 😎
AXS all day long. I have a deformed right hand and shifting is a pain with mechanical shifters because the reach is a little too much for my stubby digits. Solution? I fitted AXS, put the wireless pod on the left after converting it to left hand use and inverted the button functions. Sorted. I have DI2 on the road bike and shift with the top buttons on the hoods. Electronic shifting is a Godsend for me.
Here's nerdy, the female rally driver Anna hinted about was Michelle Mouton another fast Frenchy who finished 2nd in the world championship in 1982, she's now 73.
@Anna: I am all in for durability. I am shifting to Shimano Cues as the components wear out. atm only the 11 speed Deore cassette is left. Well, i am still waiting for Shimano to release the already leaked Cues STI shifter. so i can convert my gravel, too. Also for durability reason, i built up a custom steel full sus bike with coil suspension front and rear :D
recent emtb owner winter is here I tried a new trail and ended up climbing a 15% slope meadow on 6" of snow on the stock tires I couldn't stop giggling all the way up...how is this possible ? that's ridiculous zero regret this far it opened so many things I couldn't do on legs
Not sure there is any one part that gives me more joy over another - so easier to ask what hurts the most when it doesn't work (or isn't present) and for me that is the dropper post 100%. Ride with it broken or ride without one and realise how awesome it is.
I have a pretty great bike and everything works great. I’m excited about things that LOOK extremely cool. Unnecessary things but they look fantastic. Title bars and stem for example
I'm more enduro and everything mountain orientated but gravel bikes are for gravel roads and basically I think they stay functioning best in there element. IF! i owned one i'd use drop bars and a fast tire setup and make sure it accommodates some extra water and tools for this would be for distance not fun or bumpy terrain but still better than a road bike on country lanes ect. depends where you ride and what you wanna do I think, the gravel bikes are kind of all over the place on specs and are confusing people where they belong best
Bib armoured shorts please. I'm getting older and things get hurt when I fall off, so I like having protection on my hips and thighs, but most shorts seem to slip down and armour in the wrong place impinges on pedalling and doesn't protect well. And even more important, the people behind me do not need to see my crack. Perhaps armoured under shorts that clip into bin outer bib trousers?
Thanks for including us in the Tech Show team. For those that haven't seen the video yet, we think you'll enjoy it - th-cam.com/video/X0HspKD49PM/w-d-xo.html - Cough cough Rat Boy cough cough
Great vid Question, is it possible to convert a quick release hub to thru axel Asking because I have a quick release hub which i would love to put on my nukeproof scout 275 2021
Geez Owen you need big hands to ride the GP1 style grips! 😂 I tried them but couldn't so I gave them to my local war canoe club they always need spare paddles. Seriously I might retry Ergon grips but not the paddles 😅
I'm not sponsored or related to iPump japan but the iPump micro is a unbeatable portable design. Surprisingly efficient for the size, it deflates the competition 😂 The best home pump is a electric compressor. Thank me later lol
@@rsmithuk I've tried to talk to people in my local pub about the differences between SLX and XT and why the Hammerschmidt concept of Planetary gear hubs should be looked at again.. but they just look at me funny and tell me to take my muddy bike off the table.
That Atom is 100% a Nukeproof Reactor
Coming from a fully-rigid mtb (is that now a "flat bar gravel" bike?!) to my first full-sus bike this year, I'm still disproportionately overjoyed by front suspension and dropper posts. I reckon everyone should occasionally ride rigid bikes on natural trails to appreciate the benefit of the progress that's been made and now taken for granted!
Fully agreed - rigid MTB bikes can be a real hoot on the right trails - and also agree that once you've ridden with a dropper and suspension its harder to go back to the trails without - and yes it is an excellent reminder of the progress we've had!
Cheers
Owen
they aren't common sadly but you can find 3 position shocks and forks (like the current fox factory SL line) I've got 2022 fox ones bought on sale and locked they barely move like 1 pinky finger thickness sag and barely move when pedaling I did nasty ascents on it 15-21% and high elevation on road or hard trails and you don't feel the pumping there's no reason to buy a hardtail other than cost obviously that upgrade (on a full susp bike that had horrible entry level rockshox) made with end of season prices still cost me around 1100USD the middle setting makes you go faster than a hardtail on bumpy trails (strava medals a plenty after I upgraded) as it has a bit of pumping but in exchange your pedaling cadence is much smoother even if you are already a spd rider how can i explain this...your bottom bracket has less up and down so you pedal on a more stable "average height"
Doing a lower leg service on my front fork. The feeling of getting back on the bike after even just cleaning up the cartridges and lower legs makes my fork feel like new again. Love it. Doing a sealant refresh on a tire and hearing the beads pop into place after tire reinstall is an honorable mention.
I have to admit that I would enjoy all of the new/old items with new features. The one thing that I would disagree with however is Merino wool.I've worn it for lots and lots of years, and have used it as a layer under something that can breathe...most of the time a vest. I live in the mountains of Maine, so whether it's on a bike, nordic or downhill ski's or snowshoes, I've never had an issue with overheating or being wet from sweat. I also realize that we are all different., As for frigid bikes, have always had a rigid mtn bike, and my fatbike is rigid as well...Anyway, the fact that we can choose to use or not use these innovations is incredible for sure. Thanks for sharing!
I upgraded my grips to the new Ergon ones with the flares and also added a Ergon eMTB specific saddle. Has made my rides so much more enjoyable and comfortable.
Thanks for including our MADISON D.T.E Waterproof bibs, very proud of this product development. Best Chris (MDC DESIGNER)
They look great - and they eliminate another excuse for not riding!
Cheers
Owen
Fun part with shimano groupsets is that you can get an XT shifter (which not that much more expensive than the base deore) and pair it with a deore groupset and just like that you have a more "premium" functionality for cheap!
I also like to look at expensive bespoke bikes... I don't even want them, but I do like funcitonal art.
Hardtail with a rigid fork! And dropbars! Salsa Cutthroat - mine is running 2.4's withan SRAM AXS Eagle mtn drivetrain (38t chainring with a 10-52 cassette). It work *great*.
Sounds great!
Drop bar MTB's can be awesome on the right trails - also yes to the chonk 2.4 tyres - lots of very tuneable air suspension in those!
Cheers
Owen
So Good to see Anna Back!
How I ended up with a flat bar gravel bike...
1) Purchased a Cannondale topstone 4 1x
2) as a mountain biker hated drops with a passion.
3) Proceeded to install flatbars and mtb hydro brakes.
Its the best for railtrails and around town riding. Great for riding with the kids and family.
Sounds great to be fair!
Cheers
Owen
#QUIZ. Quiz of the day is "What did Owen not ask us on this episode? " 😁
ha ha ha!
100% the Atomic is a Nukeproof Reactor, Lets see if they bring out any other versions from the Nukeproof stable.
1:55 I have a 11s Deore on my hardtail and 12s Deore on my full sus and honestly it's all you need. Sure, fancy drivetrains are cool but those are wearable items and the difference is not that big. It's the last piece of bike on my upgrade list.
The Parktool chain breaker, I have had many chain breakers but when we got a park tools one what a joy to use!😊
Deore is bulletproof in my experience
I’ve found E3’s shrader valves the best purchase this year, and actually has brought unexpected joy to my life. Like Owen, I switch between multiple sets of tires throughout the year, and those valves allow me to use a relatively small air compressor to seat any tire with ease. Haven’t cursed a tire install this year so far! 😅👍
Owen cracks Anna up 😂😂
CUES ! That is what I’m getting nerdy for . Recently got a group set and have been enjoying shifting up or down when I want to rather than when it’s convenient for my cassette 😎
Joy is...setting up my suspension via a Fox digital pump and the tyre pressure check with my `topeak digital pressure gauge...pre every ride 😃
Curious to see the reactions to the Atomic.
Agreed, it will be interesting to see how that develops!
Cheers
Owen
Also sorry completely missed that great Pun!
Reaction / Reactor
Cheers
Owen
Thanks for the information on the new tech and goodies for stocking stuffers.
AXS all day long. I have a deformed right hand and shifting is a pain with mechanical shifters because the reach is a little too much for my stubby digits. Solution? I fitted AXS, put the wireless pod on the left after converting it to left hand use and inverted the button functions. Sorted. I have DI2 on the road bike and shift with the top buttons on the hoods. Electronic shifting is a Godsend for me.
Please do a few segments on budget gravel bikes such as: Poseidon Redwood by poseidon bikes😁😁
The tyreglider!
Here's nerdy, the female rally driver Anna hinted about was Michelle Mouton another fast Frenchy who finished 2nd in the world championship in 1982, she's now 73.
Great insights - thank you!
Cheers
Owen
Anna is like the plutonium rods that keeps Owen from having a runaway nerd reaction.
Ha ha ha ha!
Anna and Owen are the best presenter duo. But that's just like my opinion, man.
@Anna: I am all in for durability. I am shifting to Shimano Cues as the components wear out. atm only the 11 speed Deore cassette is left. Well, i am still waiting for Shimano to release the already leaked Cues STI shifter. so i can convert my gravel, too. Also for durability reason, i built up a custom steel full sus bike with coil suspension front and rear :D
recent emtb owner winter is here I tried a new trail and ended up climbing a 15% slope meadow on 6" of snow on the stock tires I couldn't stop giggling all the way up...how is this possible ? that's ridiculous zero regret this far it opened so many things I couldn't do on legs
What bike related tech brings you a disproportionate amount of joy?!
Not sure there is any one part that gives me more joy over another - so easier to ask what hurts the most when it doesn't work (or isn't present) and for me that is the dropper post 100%. Ride with it broken or ride without one and realise how awesome it is.
The click click sound of my aneomaly switchgrade?
Objectively I'd say suspension in general.
@@tim__sadler very true, it's easy to forget until it breaks or sticks.
I have a pretty great bike and everything works great. I’m excited about things that LOOK extremely cool. Unnecessary things but they look fantastic. Title bars and stem for example
Somehow this is not the first time On-One has nicked a defunct brand's bike
I'm more enduro and everything mountain orientated but gravel bikes are for gravel roads and basically I think they stay functioning best in there element. IF! i owned one i'd use drop bars and a fast tire setup and make sure it accommodates some extra water and tools for this would be for distance not fun or bumpy terrain but still better than a road bike on country lanes ect. depends where you ride and what you wanna do I think, the gravel bikes are kind of all over the place on specs and are confusing people where they belong best
Hi Anna and Owen, what's your verdict between SLX versus Deore components? I am thinking I would like a bit of mix-and-match between these two.
Bib armoured shorts please. I'm getting older and things get hurt when I fall off, so I like having protection on my hips and thighs, but most shorts seem to slip down and armour in the wrong place impinges on pedalling and doesn't protect well.
And even more important, the people behind me do not need to see my crack.
Perhaps armoured under shorts that clip into bin outer bib trousers?
@annaonthebike way to keep composure with Owen’s tire sealant drama.
Thanks for including us in the Tech Show team. For those that haven't seen the video yet, we think you'll enjoy it - th-cam.com/video/X0HspKD49PM/w-d-xo.html - Cough cough Rat Boy cough cough
Your welcome - thanks for the great video with Miami Bryce aka Ratty aka - well and the interesting products - great stuff!
Cheers
Owen
Great vid
Question, is it possible to convert a quick release hub to thru axel
Asking because I have a quick release hub which i would love to put on my nukeproof scout 275 2021
Geez Owen you need big hands to ride the GP1 style grips! 😂
I tried them but couldn't so I gave them to my local war canoe club they always need spare paddles.
Seriously I might retry Ergon grips but not the paddles 😅
Internal routing 👌👍but not through headsets 🤬
@gmbntech Any suggestions on a good MTB pump?
I'm not sponsored or related to iPump japan but the iPump micro is a unbeatable portable design. Surprisingly efficient for the size, it deflates the competition 😂
The best home pump is a electric compressor. Thank me later lol
Channel should be called GMBN TECH NERDS 😅
It’s just old nukeproof reactor stock
I’m no spring chicken however all I heard throughout the whole episode was how old you two have seemingly gotten almost over night. Not sorry. 😂
Wait... where is the #quiz? I feel lost without it....
16:54 mate? 😅
@@rsmithuk no question this week though....
@@tim__sadler good excuse to go to the pub quiz to get your fix ;-)
@@rsmithuk I've tried to talk to people in my local pub about the differences between SLX and XT and why the Hammerschmidt concept of Planetary gear hubs should be looked at again.. but they just look at me funny and tell me to take my muddy bike off the table.
@@tim__sadler TBF even at pubs near trail centres with a carpark full of Transporters you are going to get funny looks 🤣
24 minute vid and your here six minutes in asking for the quiz…
That is because I skip to the #quiz first? Doesn't everyone?
Im done buying anything. Better off buying used
Hey ANNA, Its SRAM, NOT Shram!!!!
Internal routing isn't sorcery; always pull the bare cable first and slide the housing on after securing the remaining end. Magnets sucks 😂
sorry I just don't like Owen
Thats ok we can't like everyone - but hopefully the news and great content are enough to make up for me?
Cheers
Owen