Ace was him, but the community wasn’t ready for this convo until now. Just happy to see Ace respect cause there was a time when people thought Jozu was stronger
@@Ichi-BroI mean obviously because before the light novels we didn't know how strong Ace was, he only had Marineford to go on and that was with a starved and weakened Ace, Jozu was given much more fights in that arc compared to Ace. Alabaster we didn't even see Ace try as he took a backseat in fighting and left before the big fight, then Blackbeard was someone that was hard to gauge where he was in the power system at the time.
Well I definitely agree that full potential Ace can become yonko level I don't think he can ever surpass Roger and definitely would be stomped by full potential Luffy, explanation is very simple after losing to Whitebeard he joined him and even wanted to make him pirate king, Luffy would never submit to anyone or give up on his dream, even his dream itself is beyond just becoming pirate king and was considered ridiculous by everyone who ever heard it, ambition is the most important thing for conquerors haki growth so Ace who limited his own ambition would never catch up with someone like Roger and Luffy
Whitebeard was already sick, he would die sooner or later. All that would be left for Ace after this was to assume leadership and replace Whitebeard. The novel shows that he always wanted to be bigger than Roger, so this argument doesn't work.
@@Sty_wwnah he did sumbit to someone stronger and gave up. Luffy wouldn’t do that, Ace also knew Luffy had way more potential than him, Luffy’s and Roger’s willpower is unmatched. It’s mainly due to Ace’s confidence of the fact that he’s alive.
thats invalid. we already saw how whitebeard himself the yonko and shanks where all under other captains, aces ambition not only includes making whitebeard the king but beating kaido and the rest of the yonko as well as the celestial dragons. the contrast between ace saying he will make whitbeard the king and luffys crew saying it is that Ace intents to be the one to fight whitebeards fights. its also a typical shonen trope for the son to surpass the father, the entire reasson Ace was executed acording to sengoku is because he was a bigger threat than the YONKO. by default Aces ambition is biger than whitebeards.
Had Ace trained with someone like Rayleigh or even Newgate for any prolonged amount of time in mastering Haki, coupled with his incredible Devil Fruit - there’s no doubt in my mind that Ace’s floor would be that of an Admiral. He definitely could have succeeded Newgate as captain of the Whitebeard Pirates and became an Emperor of the sea in his own right. Had Ace lived and Newgate died, I think his destiny would have led him too Wano with Luffy and the Pirate-Samurai-Mink-Ninja alliance.
No, Blackbeard 's "Black Hole" attack does not have the same gravitational pull as a black hole and neither does Ace's df have the potential to start nuclear reactions.
Yeah, some of this did seem like a bit of a stretch to me. If the flat out superior DF doesn’t reach temperatures as hot as the sun’s core, I just can’t see this DF reaching them either. Blue flames, absolutely though. And if BB’s Black Hole did have the same GP as an actual black hole, then the OP world would have been gone by now.
@@jschannel6319 Yeah, Ace had yonko level potential but his fruit was never the reason why, Akainu's fruit is simply superior when you cut this crazy headcanon. Ace is just really talented at haki, probably because he's Roger's son.
@@someoneelse3456Indeed Aces fruit only increased his already superior talents as a fighter and a haki user! I guess we're all just hoping to FINALLY see what a logia awakening can do! It's gonna be awesome!
@@jschannel6319this is the same kind of argument people use for Goku having universal feats. If they destroyed the OP world, the story wouldn’t exist. The story has to exist, it called the anime logic, Earth in anime can tank black holes. Just because BB didn’t destroy Earth doesn’t mean it isn’t the gravitational pull of a black hole.
its crazy people bring the " the ambition argument" when all the yonko where under captains themselves, and when we have context that Ace intends to be the one to beat kaido so when he says he is going to make whitebeard the king he is most likelly going to be the one fighting whitebeards fights. Like am pretty sure whitebeards retirement plan was to have Ace eventually take over the crew.
Ace had one of the biggest potential thresholds in the series with only the likes of Luffy to rival it. But Ace could never see his own value because the world didn't want him, Ace saw it fit to have his loved ones get to the heights of pirate king not himself. He thought the ones fit for that title was his younger brother Luffy and his father Whitebeard...
Why all of a sudden is everybody hopping on the “ace was him” wave💀 yet when he lost to Blackbeard before his second fruit it wasn’t seen as an insane feat at all
@@IMO3530 that ain’t long enough everybody switching up idk why’s it’s taking so long for ace to be seen as him People dead ass had Marco over ace for years
people judge too much based on the "fails" even though anyone who is "weak" right now can grow a lot later just like many did already in the story. moreover the matchups in one piece matters. blackbeard was never a weak character and his devil fruit gives him a peak over people who relies on their devil fruits heavily. also people claims that characters are weak becuase they are not as strong as the main character is right now. Ace for me was always considered strong at the time of his death and had potential, the difference is that now people think he could be one of the strongest in the verse.
Ace never had a single anti-feat that put him as a weak character but the community just underates Black Beard so assumed Ace was weak as well. Black Beard before his fruit was offered the second division position. We literally hear that the Second Division position was being saved for a truly strong person in memory of Oden so the Black Beard was already hella strong before his darkness fruit.
I haven't watched the video yet. But for starters, Ace likely can't be an advanced conqueror, given that he was willing to give up his dream directly(this is different from Zoro who would give up his dream for Luffy in Thriller Bark). His conqueror's haki simply wouldn't be deep enough. HOWEVER, with blue or even black flames, he'd have top tier AP second to Akainu, as well as any Future sight or Advanced Armament Haki. Although I don't think he'd surpass Akainu/Aokiji, I'd put him comfortably between them and Kizaru/Oden/Ray.
I have a theory that aces potential is being reached. And the person who is gonna reach his peak is gonna be sabo. Since he was the one who inherited aces devil fruit
At that moment Ace was very weak. Bro was just relieved from seastone prism handcuffs which take all the strength of the devil fruit user including the devil fruit powers. and he was trying to protect Luffy or he would use armament haki to protect himself
Ace would still get donuted also an awakening that makes Ur flames 27,000,000°C is outrageous also, him just looking at conquerors haki coating wouldn't allow him to randomly learn it , furthermore even if he wasnt killed in marineford he would have been killed sooner or later by blackbeard or the world government or the world government's allies , i could imagine seeing garling what ever his name was chop his head off
You ain't seem to understand the video Full potential Ace far exceeds that of any character besides Luffy. Ace's Ambition was to be superior than the pirate king. If that doesn't grant him one of the best haki in his full potential then I don't know what
Maybe Ace can unlock Amaterasu in Naruto and Kurei's white flames by coating it with his Advanced Conqueror's Haki and Advanced Armament Haki with Roger's blood in it. We can maybe also see the awakening of mera mera no mi from Sabo.
Great vid ace would have all three types of advance haki and devil fruit awakening surpassing and being above yonko equal to his father and Luffy again great one
Ace was strong just look back when he was in locked up in impel down he was getting beaten he was in cuffed with seastone even Garp stated i can’t believe your still conscious with all these injuries he was still in seastone in marineford his haki was weak and thats how akainu pierced through him im not saying he would beat Akainu but he wouldve put a bigger fight
luffy is still him thou .we know he is sun god .but we havent seen any fire abilites with g5 .so that means his dev frut is not unlocket to its fulles.he would grab aces flames.
I really like goro goro no mi and i think a guy can rival ace with goro goro no mi Lightning pretty hot in its base form already and if I necessary the oscillation of the election and charged particles it can go even higher and i can also turn into plasma plus it will take my observation haki and reaction speed to a another lvl 🤔 bcoz of its speed capabilities
You do realize that ace temperature would be so high that would burn everything in its surroundings He would consume a sht ton of oxygen not only that but if ace for example reached 27.000.000 C in wano the whole country would be wiped out of the face of the earth
Kizaru moves at the speed of light, an impact moving that fast and hitting the earths surface would typically destroy it. But it didnt when he was fighting luffy and others throughout the series. Its a fictional story things that would destroy our world wouldnt destroy theres. Its not *out of this world* to assume something among that level of heat in one piece.
For all we know Flame emperor was his strongest attack. Ace seems to have developed the move after his 100th duel and it did seem to cover half the island.
No yeah fire as an ability is stupid broken, people say magma is stronger than fire but forget that fire created the universe and magma is just the byproduct
Also, be sure to make more one piece. What ifs like what if white beard killed? Teach and Sakazuki what if Garp became admiral what if roger never died what if oden never died, and many more to come👍👋
There are different stages to blue flames, some are 3000 degreees but the ones that are produced by the suns core go over the millions and typically have a trail of a white flame but with a blue flame body.
Where’d black beard go? Ace lost to an pre time skip BB so even in this new timeline he’d not be yonko he’d probably be like katakuri he’s the captain but he’s not a yonko ace is strong but he’s not be that strong enough to be yonko
Blackbeard is so underrated he defeated the shanks who was fighting mihawk when blackbeard didn't even had any devil fruit and he still overwhelmed him and let a scar on his face forever.
ace is not trash your opinion is trash in anime we can see ace just fight with 2 characters and he lost both of fight and whos that characters ,,,black beard who give scarr on shanks face ,🤦akainu who survive white beard last finall atack any one can see akainu is yonku levell ,,and in fight between ace vs akainu ace reaction speed is equall with akainu but akainu have devill fruit advantage thats why he win ,,and pluss ace captured many days in impelldown with sea stones,
@@kinghjoih1493People should be able to state their opinion without worrying about someone else as long as it doesn't have harmful massages . If people gonna be mad at your opinion it's their problem .
Nah ace would not be having future fighting with Kaido the first time they fight ace gonna be died or wb comes in if not that plot armor for ace to survive
So Sanji has better armament haki than Sabo now? The color of Sanji's flames is an anime stylistic element and has nothing to do with the temperature of the flame.
The hell are you talking about? Sanji literally said in the manga that his flames got hotter with his development of armament haki and his exoskeleton.
It's not that hard to believe Sanji > Sabo rn, Sabo has done nothing of significants when it comes to power. Sanji speed blitzed Queen so bad he thought Sanji was invisible the same Queen that can still somewhat react to Marco. Sanji is 1st Yonko commander level at least. Until Sabo does something extra there isn't much evidence to put him above Sanji...
But luffy still has a much better potenital than ace since luffy now is 19 years old but is many times stronger than ace at the time he died who is 20 years old.
he was rogers son... look at luffy's family and their consiestency of strength throughout the generations. obvi ace was also on pace to get near rogers level. yonko lvl minimum
Ace was him, but the community wasn’t ready for this convo until now. Just happy to see Ace respect cause there was a time when people thought Jozu was stronger
We been knew that but some ace fans be over hyping him up he strong don't get me wrong
Jozu was prlly stronger before the light novel😂😂
@@Ichi-BroI mean obviously because before the light novels we didn't know how strong Ace was, he only had Marineford to go on and that was with a starved and weakened Ace, Jozu was given much more fights in that arc compared to Ace.
Alabaster we didn't even see Ace try as he took a backseat in fighting and left before the big fight, then Blackbeard was someone that was hard to gauge where he was in the power system at the time.
Jozu is stronger than A$CE
@@bluntslt8023no
Well I definitely agree that full potential Ace can become yonko level I don't think he can ever surpass Roger and definitely would be stomped by full potential Luffy, explanation is very simple after losing to Whitebeard he joined him and even wanted to make him pirate king, Luffy would never submit to anyone or give up on his dream, even his dream itself is beyond just becoming pirate king and was considered ridiculous by everyone who ever heard it, ambition is the most important thing for conquerors haki growth so Ace who limited his own ambition would never catch up with someone like Roger and Luffy
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Whitebeard was already sick, he would die sooner or later. All that would be left for Ace after this was to assume leadership and replace Whitebeard. The novel shows that he always wanted to be bigger than Roger, so this argument doesn't work.
This is an interesting take. Ace did have as much ambition as luffy at first but to put it simply, bro had daddy issues
@@Sty_wwnah he did sumbit to someone stronger and gave up. Luffy wouldn’t do that, Ace also knew Luffy had way more potential than him, Luffy’s and Roger’s willpower is unmatched. It’s mainly due to Ace’s confidence of the fact that he’s alive.
thats invalid. we already saw how whitebeard himself the yonko and shanks where all under other captains, aces ambition not only includes making whitebeard the king but beating kaido and the rest of the yonko as well as the celestial dragons. the contrast between ace saying he will make whitbeard the king and luffys crew saying it is that Ace intents to be the one to fight whitebeards fights. its also a typical shonen trope for the son to surpass the father, the entire reasson Ace was executed acording to sengoku is because he was a bigger threat than the YONKO. by default Aces ambition is biger than whitebeards.
Had Ace trained with someone like Rayleigh or even Newgate for any prolonged amount of time in mastering Haki, coupled with his incredible Devil Fruit - there’s no doubt in my mind that Ace’s floor would be that of an Admiral. He definitely could have succeeded Newgate as captain of the Whitebeard Pirates and became an Emperor of the sea in his own right.
Had Ace lived and Newgate died, I think his destiny would have led him too Wano with Luffy and the Pirate-Samurai-Mink-Ninja alliance.
Finally someone is there to rais his voice for ace.I'm really grateful to appreciate you man love you💞
No, Blackbeard 's "Black Hole" attack does not have the same gravitational pull as a black hole and neither does Ace's df have the potential to start nuclear reactions.
Yeah, some of this did seem like a bit of a stretch to me. If the flat out superior DF doesn’t reach temperatures as hot as the sun’s core, I just can’t see this DF reaching them either. Blue flames, absolutely though. And if BB’s Black Hole did have the same GP as an actual black hole, then the OP world would have been gone by now.
@@jschannel6319 Yeah, Ace had yonko level potential but his fruit was never the reason why, Akainu's fruit is simply superior when you cut this crazy headcanon. Ace is just really talented at haki, probably because he's Roger's son.
@@someoneelse3456Indeed Aces fruit only increased his already superior talents as a fighter and a haki user! I guess we're all just hoping to FINALLY see what a logia awakening can do! It's gonna be awesome!
I can't believe how hard this video tried to wank ace.
This guys pretty ignorant overall tbh.
@@jschannel6319this is the same kind of argument people use for Goku having universal feats. If they destroyed the OP world, the story wouldn’t exist. The story has to exist, it called the anime logic, Earth in anime can tank black holes. Just because BB didn’t destroy Earth doesn’t mean it isn’t the gravitational pull of a black hole.
i’m dropping this exact video on saturday 😭😭😭 bro got to it before me
Nah u like he copy my flow word for word bar for bar😂😂😂
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its crazy people bring the " the ambition argument" when all the yonko where under captains themselves, and when we have context that Ace intends to be the one to beat kaido so when he says he is going to make whitebeard the king he is most likelly going to be the one fighting whitebeards fights. Like am pretty sure whitebeards retirement plan was to have Ace eventually take over the crew.
Imagine at the final arc, sabo saying “ your magma are merely from earth, my flames are as hot as the sun” 😂
Imagine ace lived and awakened his df and his flames turned blue
Ace had one of the biggest potential thresholds in the series with only the likes of Luffy to rival it.
But Ace could never see his own value because the world didn't want him, Ace saw it fit to have his loved ones get to the heights of pirate king not himself.
He thought the ones fit for that title was his younger brother Luffy and his father Whitebeard...
Blackbeard definitely would still rival it
none of yall remember this man was literally the pirate king's son.
And peeps say he aint got conquerors😂😂😂
Why all of a sudden is everybody hopping on the “ace was him” wave💀 yet when he lost to Blackbeard before his second fruit it wasn’t seen as an insane feat at all
I’ve been talking about him for months LMFAOO
@@IMO3530 that ain’t long enough everybody switching up idk why’s it’s taking so long for ace to be seen as him
People dead ass had Marco over ace for years
Blackbeard got the better of and scarred shanks take that how you may
people judge too much based on the "fails" even though anyone who is "weak" right now can grow a lot later just like many did already in the story.
moreover the matchups in one piece matters.
blackbeard was never a weak character and his devil fruit gives him a peak over people who relies on their devil fruits heavily.
also people claims that characters are weak becuase they are not as strong as the main character is right now.
Ace for me was always considered strong at the time of his death and had potential, the difference is that now people think he could be one of the strongest in the verse.
Ace never had a single anti-feat that put him as a weak character but the community just underates Black Beard so assumed Ace was weak as well. Black Beard before his fruit was offered the second division position. We literally hear that the Second Division position was being saved for a truly strong person in memory of Oden so the Black Beard was already hella strong before his darkness fruit.
Also in the novel, shanks tried to use conquerors Haki on Ace and it didn’t work
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Honestly ace would have been one of luffys main rival and would have become a yonko before luffy
Super cool editing
I haven't watched the video yet. But for starters, Ace likely can't be an advanced conqueror, given that he was willing to give up his dream directly(this is different from Zoro who would give up his dream for Luffy in Thriller Bark).
His conqueror's haki simply wouldn't be deep enough. HOWEVER, with blue or even black flames, he'd have top tier AP second to Akainu, as well as any Future sight or Advanced Armament Haki. Although I don't think he'd surpass Akainu/Aokiji, I'd put him comfortably between them and Kizaru/Oden/Ray.
Black flames? Like Haki-covered flames?
Bro turned into a particle accelerator 😭😭
I have a theory that aces potential is being reached. And the person who is gonna reach his peak is gonna be sabo. Since he was the one who inherited aces devil fruit
Ace wasn't weak. Akainu was just too strong.
At that moment Ace was very weak. Bro was just relieved from seastone prism handcuffs which take all the strength of the devil fruit user including the devil fruit powers.
and he was trying to protect Luffy or he would use armament haki to protect himself
no just the DF advantage
ace matched kuzan with ease
@@VictorDurand-me5yu But Kuzan matched Akainu for ten days. That means Kuzan wasn't going all out against Ace
Ace was weak and Sakazuki is too strong (like Kuzan and Borsarlino)
Akainu was anxious about the future growth of ace,what a coward
Thumbnail artist?
if ace didnt die im pretty sure he would be a yonko instead of buggy
Ace would still get donuted also an awakening that makes Ur flames 27,000,000°C is outrageous also, him just looking at conquerors haki coating wouldn't allow him to randomly learn it , furthermore even if he wasnt killed in marineford he would have been killed sooner or later by blackbeard or the world government or the world government's allies , i could imagine seeing garling what ever his name was chop his head off
u missed the point, the whole point of the vid is if he lived long enough 2 reach his full potential, not just survivng marine ford
You ain't seem to understand the video
Full potential Ace far exceeds that of any character besides Luffy.
Ace's Ambition was to be superior than the pirate king. If that doesn't grant him one of the best haki in his full potential then I don't know what
MAN people don't realize that Ace using Fire Flies is him combining his fruit with Future sight
Maybe Ace can unlock Amaterasu in Naruto and Kurei's white flames by coating it with his Advanced Conqueror's Haki and Advanced Armament Haki with Roger's blood in it. We can maybe also see the awakening of mera mera no mi from Sabo.
if your talking about temperatures like the core of the sun, think about the radiation poisoning
Lets just hope Sabo does that.
he cant bruh
Great video bro, this explains why Oda killed off Ace, he would have been too strong.
Nah he wouldn’t be that strong he’d probably be vice captain or admiral lvl so around the strength of kizaru and zoro
@@Ichi-Brolol what,he is the son of the pirate king and has more growth speed than luffy
Great vid ace would have all three types of advance haki and devil fruit awakening surpassing and being above yonko equal to his father and Luffy again great one
Ace was strong just look back when he was in locked up in impel down he was getting beaten he was in cuffed with seastone even Garp stated i can’t believe your still conscious with all these injuries he was still in seastone in marineford his haki was weak and thats how akainu pierced through him im not saying he would beat Akainu but he wouldve put a bigger fight
We will see his peak with sabo
Probably THIS is the reason why Oda killed him off...
OP characters are almost impossible to manage If they're not the main character!
OP, as in Overpowered.
Sabo can take it from here lol
the glazing on ace is insane
luffy is still him thou .we know he is sun god .but we havent seen any fire abilites with g5 .so that means his dev frut is not unlocket to its fulles.he would grab aces flames.
can you do a video like this but with enel
I really like goro goro no mi and i think a guy can rival ace with goro goro no mi
Lightning pretty hot in its base form already and if I necessary the oscillation of the election and charged particles it can go even higher and i can also turn into plasma plus it will take my observation haki and reaction speed to a another lvl 🤔 bcoz of its speed capabilities
Thumbnail source?
How did you and Restless Gambler manage this shit 😭
I just realized something if bb was able to beat ace then why did you do so bad against white beard
You do realize that ace temperature would be so high that would burn everything in its surroundings
He would consume a sht ton of oxygen not only that but if ace for example reached 27.000.000 C in wano the whole country would be wiped out of the face of the earth
Kizaru moves at the speed of light, an impact moving that fast and hitting the earths surface would typically destroy it. But it didnt when he was fighting luffy and others throughout the series. Its a fictional story things that would destroy our world wouldnt destroy theres. Its not *out of this world* to assume something among that level of heat in one piece.
Akainu's future against Sabo when he Awakenings his Mera Mera no Mi in the final war hopefully.
it would be tragic if sabo died from akainu too
@groguuuyoda9479 I'm talking about Sabo burning Akainu's ass.
It doesn't matter. A Donut is a Donut.
It’s not 2016 anymore join us in the present 😂
Welcome back to another episode of IMO aka Ace's largest meat rider
If Ace pulled out that Fire Dragon against Blackbeard, Marineford would NOT have happened‼
Fr ace is a dumb ass bro fough bb knowing he getting hit an said f haki i dont need that oda could stop marine ford but he didnt
Nope nope he’d still lose bb could just touch the flame dragon and it’s not there anymore just how when bb touched luffy his g2 went off
@@Ichi-Bro I talking about using haki
For all we know Flame emperor was his strongest attack. Ace seems to have developed the move after his 100th duel and it did seem to cover half the island.
No yeah fire as an ability is stupid broken, people say magma is stronger than fire but forget that fire created the universe and magma is just the byproduct
This guy ate the Waffle Waffle no mi.
The only fruit that can make you waffle for 10 minutes straight.
Nice video and yes am interested on more topics just like this
So ace is actually not weak
so you didn't see akainu or whitebeard at there peak
id say ace had more potential than luffy
yah bro oda allredey stated himself in sbs novell ace have more potainciall then luffy to beome pirate king
What is the name of novel if thats even real or made by Oda.. Everyone talks about it but never drops the name…
Also, be sure to make more one piece. What ifs like what if white beard killed? Teach and Sakazuki what if Garp became admiral what if roger never died what if oden never died, and many more to come👍👋
Sabo slams
fyi there's no flames hotter than blue flames, its over 2 times hotter than magma
There are different stages to blue flames, some are 3000 degreees but the ones that are produced by the suns core go over the millions and typically have a trail of a white flame but with a blue flame body.
Yea that bullshit because if ace was able to use haki he would have never got burn!!!
Magma>Ace haki and his goal was to save luffy maybe he did but just to minimize the damage
So, In this Version New Emperors of the New World would be
Red Haired Shanks
Straw Hat Luffy
Fire Fist Ace
Buggy the Genius Jester
Where’d black beard go? Ace lost to an pre time skip BB so even in this new timeline he’d not be yonko he’d probably be like katakuri he’s the captain but he’s not a yonko ace is strong but he’s not be that strong enough to be yonko
@@Ichi-Bro if Bb didn't captured Ace, There would be no marineford war, hence no Yonko bb
Blackbeard is so underrated he defeated the shanks who was fighting mihawk when blackbeard didn't even had any devil fruit and he still overwhelmed him and let a scar on his face forever.
And don't forget shanks wasn't cut on off guard or somehting has he said himself he was on his guard.
@@Ectooooo Yeah, I know. But we don't know much about bb
Sabooooo
Ace had to die lol. Double D, Triple Haki and a Logia Fruit? Actually too stacked
Ace was trash that’s why oda is doing all this retcon to make him look good.
ace is not trash your opinion is trash in anime we can see ace just fight with 2 characters and he lost both of fight and whos that characters ,,,black beard who give scarr on shanks face ,🤦akainu who survive white beard last finall atack any one can see akainu is yonku levell ,,and in fight between ace vs akainu ace reaction speed is equall with akainu but akainu have devill fruit advantage thats why he win ,,and pluss ace captured many days in impelldown with sea stones,
Best written side character in the Big 3
U mean in ur opinion cause people gonna be mad u better say that fr
@@kinghjoih1493 not really opinion it's known that op has the best written cast in the big 3 lol
@@שגיאאדרי-ו4צif we ain't talking aizen
@@kinghjoih1493People should be able to state their opinion without worrying about someone else as long as it doesn't have harmful massages . If people gonna be mad at your opinion it's their problem .
Yeah Ace eas mostly hype. He was weak in my opinion
Man rip ace bro
Ace is fodder
He can't beat Goku tho
cap its bull shit because akainu didn't have his awk neither did whitebeard
Nah ace would not be having future fighting with Kaido the first time they fight ace gonna be died or wb comes in if not that plot armor for ace to survive
Ehh
I could see Ace turning his flames into the eternal flames Vegapunk was talking about. So I guess an Amaterasu Ace.
So Sanji has better armament haki than Sabo now? The color of Sanji's flames is an anime stylistic element and has nothing to do with the temperature of the flame.
are you serious? LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Ur the reason why I started yt
The hell are you talking about? Sanji literally said in the manga that his flames got hotter with his development of armament haki and his exoskeleton.
It's not that hard to believe Sanji > Sabo rn, Sabo has done nothing of significants when it comes to power.
Sanji speed blitzed Queen so bad he thought Sanji was invisible the same Queen that can still somewhat react to Marco.
Sanji is 1st Yonko commander level at least. Until Sabo does something extra there isn't much evidence to put him above Sanji...
But luffy still has a much better potenital than ace since luffy now is 19 years old but is many times stronger than ace at the time he died who is 20 years old.
he was rogers son... look at luffy's family and their consiestency of strength throughout the generations. obvi ace was also on pace to get near rogers level. yonko lvl minimum
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I would burn
Ofcourse the sun surpasses the father
This gonna hit people wrong but Ace > Luffy
ace is more entertaining than luffy ngl