Meant as constructive feedback: 1) Use specialist timing gear 2) Have all cars do all tests instead of subjectively eliminating 3) When setting laptimes, same driver please
Good call - the elimination process means a different winner depending on the order of tests - not really a full comparison. But then the cars are not direct competitors either???
You could literally, and diversely, remove car(s) you personally* didn't like by sorting out what order they do the different tests in and thus remove the car(s) you personally* don't like immediately. I'm sure that the Jaguar, being more of a GT car than an outright sports car, would have done really well in the daily drive. * For personally, read _The amount of cash some car maker may surreptitiously shove into your back pocket in error!_ ;-))...
I am a massive car guy and although I like the mix of presenters and what they all say is fine. The camera work is off putting with all the focusing tricks and I hate the way you eleminate cars as you go. If the Jag was the best at handling it doesn't even get a chance and thus none of this info could help a buying decision
"Dampening" is the act of making something wet. "Damping" is the act of controlling or reducing the motion of an object. Shock absorbers are dampers, not "dampeners"... unless they're leaking.
Sooo they eliminate the best drivers car before actually doing any spirited driving? Other than a straight line drag, where naturally the cheapest possible Cayman they could find was slower than the top spec Z4 and TT? Makes sense, lads, good job.
They do like to mess with the numbers, how did we get from 3 tenths to half a second slower for the Jag, and it all rubbish anyway as it's down to the accuracy of the button press and observation of the finish line, use timing lights or don't bother as it's meaningless.
The first car I saw Vicki review was the Ferrari 360 CS when I was in college. She achieved dream girl status then. 20 years later…there’s still something about her. I respect her reviews but there’s that little extra for me
Please let Jason Plato know much love from australia and he was awesome to watch in the btcc and great sit down on the late brake show with Johnny smith.
Why are you eliminating cars from various tests? I appreciate your subjective opinions and cell phone telemetry but all of the cars should have completed each test. Me thinks the Cayman was kept out of the track test for a reason.
It still amazes me that a show like fifth gear can't afford a proper timing system. My kids BMX bike racing team has a portable timing system for any track we go to that tells the coach every kids time.
They got rid of the porsche because it was too noisy and a bit firm on the road! It's a sports car FFS. If you want a sofa with wheels, go buy a GT or a saloon car. We all know fine well the porsche would have destroyed them all on a twisty road and round a track. They ultimately ended up with the worst two cars. The audi being the ugliest and the BMW being the dullest fattest and heaviest. Utter farce of a test.
31:20 £8k for an E89 Z4? Best of luck getting that kind of value in my country. The cheapest E89 Z4 I can find in my country cost more than £16,500, and that's for the sDrive23i with a 2.5L inline-6 engine.
Hardly a fair test, massive difference in power between the four cars, i stopped watching after the first test. So the Jaguar doesn't even get to show how it handled on the road. I have the older v6s and i would still choose it over any of those 3 German euro boxes, all of them good cars but so boring.
Echoing comments below - please standardise the tests And if the Cayman is the bench mark, (or any benchmark test) do the 'death match' within the competitors, with the winner facing the reigning champion... Final comment - to add subjectivity, which one would the presenter spend their own money on? Much love to all the presenters.
Badly flawed review The jaguar would have been good as a road car and the porche good on the track. The result of the review is dependent on the sequence of the tests.
How you can give a Mazda scores this low? this is one of most reliable cars you an buy. the ride is good it look nice.. this does not make sense. I also wonder how barely budget youtube channel can upload in 4K but you still upload in 1080p... we in 2023 not 2013
Meant as constructive feedback:
1) Use specialist timing gear
2) Have all cars do all tests instead of subjectively eliminating
3) When setting laptimes, same driver please
Good call - the elimination process means a different winner depending on the order of tests - not really a full comparison. But then the cars are not direct competitors either???
100% agree on all points!
You could literally, and diversely, remove car(s) you personally* didn't like by sorting out what order they do the different tests in and thus remove the car(s) you personally* don't like immediately.
I'm sure that the Jaguar, being more of a GT car than an outright sports car, would have done really well in the daily drive.
* For personally, read _The amount of cash some car maker may surreptitiously shove into your back pocket in error!_ ;-))...
Agreeddddd
I would prefer a scoring system rather than an elimination.
I think they were a bit harsh on the Mazda 3
I am a massive car guy and although I like the mix of presenters and what they all say is fine. The camera work is off putting with all the focusing tricks and I hate the way you eleminate cars as you go. If the Jag was the best at handling it doesn't even get a chance and thus none of this info could help a buying decision
Yeah now you mention it it is terrible
I disagree. The camera work has always been a character trait of the show, it wouldn't be Fifth Gear without it.
Nice accurate timing with the iPhone!
"Dampening" is the act of making something wet.
"Damping" is the act of controlling or reducing the motion of an object. Shock absorbers are dampers, not "dampeners"... unless they're leaking.
Many thanks for the feature packed episode :) Keep it up peeps!
Sooo they eliminate the best drivers car before actually doing any spirited driving? Other than a straight line drag, where naturally the cheapest possible Cayman they could find was slower than the top spec Z4 and TT? Makes sense, lads, good job.
They do like to mess with the numbers, how did we get from 3 tenths to half a second slower for the Jag, and it all rubbish anyway as it's down to the accuracy of the button press and observation of the finish line, use timing lights or don't bother as it's meaningless.
The first car I saw Vicki review was the Ferrari 360 CS when I was in college. She achieved dream girl status then. 20 years later…there’s still something about her. I respect her reviews but there’s that little extra for me
Vicki, fyi, Elon Musk is not the founder of Tesla. At 16.03 mins.
I really miss fifth gear
Jason Plato. Tiff needel and vicky were the best presenters
Please let Jason Plato know much love from australia and he was awesome to watch in the btcc and great sit down on the late brake show with Johnny smith.
Is fifth gear on the TV in Oz or just you tube?
In convertable trim, the TR-RS is quite a bit heavier.
So if that was the model compared to the Z4, the outcome might have been different.
Why are you eliminating cars from various tests? I appreciate your subjective opinions and cell phone telemetry but all of the cars should have completed each test. Me thinks the Cayman was kept out of the track test for a reason.
It's a 718 Cayman T, so it's basically a stripped-out vanilla 718 Cayman. 718 Cayman S might be a better bet, but it's more expensive.
If Z4 is to be compared you have to take the soft top competitors
The new-gen Z4 is not available as a coupe. You have to buy the Toyota A90 Supra if you want a coupe version.
The sense of having a manual Cayman?!
It still amazes me that a show like fifth gear can't afford a proper timing system. My kids BMX bike racing team has a portable timing system for any track we go to that tells the coach every kids time.
Think this episode is from 2018..?
I don't think I have seen another car review where the presenters looked more gutted with the outcome of their tests.
Sensational video.😀
Great programe great team, much better than that 'celeb' car show on the beeb !
More air time on a Mazda 3 than an f type 🥱
This is what bike n car is about
Why put a cabriolet instead of a supra?
They got rid of the porsche because it was too noisy and a bit firm on the road! It's a sports car FFS. If you want a sofa with wheels, go buy a GT or a saloon car. We all know fine well the porsche would have destroyed them all on a twisty road and round a track. They ultimately ended up with the worst two cars. The audi being the ugliest and the BMW being the dullest fattest and heaviest. Utter farce of a test.
If you want a sofa with wheels go see Ed China 😂
31:20 £8k for an E89 Z4? Best of luck getting that kind of value in my country. The cheapest E89 Z4 I can find in my country cost more than £16,500, and that's for the sDrive23i with a 2.5L inline-6 engine.
Can buy them for £6k in the UK this is a old video
@@leedstown It's only two year old though.
This isn’t 10 hrs old!
0.32s is not "almost half a second"
31:23 £12k for 987 Cayman? Not in my country. The cheapest Cayman I can get is £17k. Thankfully, it'a a more powerful S version like Vicki drove.
Prices are for UK which I believe has the worlds cheapest used car prices!
Where's the Alpine???
I like, appreciate and respect the tesla but my word its dull and ugly. 😅
I read sports car in the title and then he says "It's a bit noisy" in the cayman. WTF title should be Deathmatch 50k anything sold as a coupe.
What a stupid test for the sports cars
I have a standard Audi TT roadster and its worst feature is the ride which is awful
you got to test the S plaid now up against the S
Hardly a fair test, massive difference in power between the four cars, i stopped watching after the first test. So the Jaguar doesn't even get to show how it handled on the road. I have the older v6s and i would still choose it over any of those 3 German euro boxes, all of them good cars but so boring.
Echoing comments below - please standardise the tests
And if the Cayman is the bench mark, (or any benchmark test) do the 'death match' within the competitors, with the winner facing the reigning champion...
Final comment - to add subjectivity, which one would the presenter spend their own money on?
Much love to all the presenters.
whoa it didnt work it didnt work.. haha love it..
Well a year later the majority of the Ford 1.0 ecoboost engines are in the bin.
Should have done a lap in the Porsche
2:37
Badly flawed review
The jaguar would have been good as a road car and the porche good on the track.
The result of the review is dependent on the sequence of the tests.
How you can give a Mazda scores this low? this is one of most reliable cars you an buy. the ride is good it look nice.. this does not make sense.
I also wonder how barely budget youtube channel can upload in 4K but you still upload in 1080p... we in 2023 not 2013
Nice
Got the exact same spec Z4, had it for two years best al rounder by far and pretty quick compared to the TTRS
In the Tesla if you lost your phone, you wouldn’t be able to drive your car
I take the Jaguar F-Type 3.0 V6
#BringTiffBack
Is the cameraman on Crack???
Slow it down boy...
ide watch this but based on decades of experience i really cant take a woman driver seriously
Porsche rules!!
Get rid of the Tesla crap and Elon too!!! He's nothing more than another Trump!!!
Cry harder...Last I heard, Elon has no plans to open dealerships in Fucktardia so you should be able to avoid most Teslas.
Audi being audi - understeer, understeer, understeer
Musk was not the founder of Tesla, of course.
Karan is unbearable to listen to.
Boring(( watch hagerty as benchmark
It’s really sad that your 50k new cars loose to a 14 year old base corvette
Good thing Plato isn't wearing that old geezer flat cap. Not a good attire for telly..
This is 4 years old
This is so wooden you may get a splinter watching it 😅