Thompson Water Seal Clear application
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- Applying Thompson Water Seal to a 10 day old Fence . Seen a lot of bad reviews on this product ,but I have had nothing but success with it . I think a lot of the reviews come from the stain in one , but the clear water based product has always been successful for me for going on 10 years plus. Apply heavy and results will speak for themselves. Legacy Fence out of Kennedale ,Tx.
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wow he didn't play with his dog for 5 minutes, talk about his past 5 vacations, what he's having for dinner etc... he just got down to business immediately. I love that. great job
DON'T LIKENIT DONT WATCH IT HOSS
Strait to the point. No fluff and excellent solid advice. That's how you do a DIY YT video.
Thank you Tony . That means a lot to me bud !
Exactly. Can’t stand how some people spend minutes of wasteful useless information. Great video.
Good video, thanks. I was wondering if the water seal would clog up my sprayer, but I guess not. I'll be doing my fence soon Thanks again, good job man.
its a great product but a little bit expensive fo someone with a big fence. Personally I use cooking oil from sams, $17 for 5 gallons(contains a lot of petroleum chemicals anyways which is bad for your health)just to seal natural color wood incase you want to add some stained color just buy a pint at homed depot and add it, it works great for me. My fence is almost ten years and looks brand new.
That is the greatest idea I’ve come across.....Thank You....I just tried a little section of my fence with some oil in spray can and it’s the color I want, I can’t believe I didn’t think of this.....
cooking oil? any special kind? thats a great idea if it works
4Runn1nYota thin it with diesel or mineral spirits....
Doesn't cooking oil go rancid over time? What affect would that rancidity have on wood?
You can also use used motor oil or transmission fluid. Just dilute 50/50 with diesel
Always remember to fill your sprayer with clean water, hand pump up to pressure, and let it purge out the sealant residue after every use! Keeps the tip from clogging. Thompson's will need to be applied at least every other year, but that's not unusual. Owning a deck or fence requires cleaning and sealant reapplication. Just a fact of life.
Going to do this before those pesky birds poop all over my fence.
I bought a backpack sprayer and works amazing thank you so much for this video. Really helped me
where did you get backpack sprayer ? Thanks !!!
This is awesome; I'm about to get a new fence and will do this. About how far can you get on the 5 gallon bucket? (feet?)
What nozzle are you using on the sprayer? The brass one or the red plastic insert for a flat spray pattern?
Is the product water based and can you spray it over the hardware?
He just said all that in the video lol. Yes to your questions
Cesar Salazar Pretty sure the original commenter said that because the dude says it so much in the video. It was sarcasm.
BD ok 👍
It's not water based anymore unfortunately
@@Mkartarik01 right - the product in green can is now oil based and will not spray using traditional garden pump sprayer. Had to use airless on our fence.
Why is my Thompson water seal white instead of clear? I’ve only bought clear before but this is white. it’s soaked in except for in spots.
Can you spray over the hardware???
That’s pretty nice! The hardest part seemed to be that sprayer having to pump it all them times lol. Thanks for the info though nice video
It’s actually a really neat design sprayer . Very easy to use!
@@texazsouth no
Looks pretty easy to me lol. No noise, no heavy gun filled with paint you have to refill because it can't be too big to carry around in your hand, etc.
@2:08 I love the hand full of bush after finishing that corner lmao 🤣 and then the casual drop at @2:14 lol but seriously great video, thanks
Lol I just noticed that ! Nice catch! Haha
lol!
Thanks for the video it really saved me a lot of time how was putting it on with the rag, then I bought the same sprayer you did keep up the good work 👍👍💯💯💯💯💯
Did u have to mix it with water? Can I spray and let it dry. Do I have to wipe it down with a wet rag?
No don’t mix with anything and no wiping needed just reapply more
To any light spots
Can you insert a link for for the backpack sprayer that you are using?
I have a client that has a new deck about 3 months old, if I give it a light pressure wash how soon can I apply? Thank you
Dawg, you talk about 50bpm too fast. Slow ya roll my man.
Thanks for the advice. Great video and simple and straightforward.
2:25 MY ankle broke right here. lol
That looks better than stain.
wear mask and gloves!
Does it have to be applied to both sides? (Since the other side is in my neighbor's back yard)
It should be yes
How long did it take to not look so wet and oily
Derek, I never applied anything to my 3 year old fence, it is starting to gray....would it be okay to apply Thompson’s at this point?
You need to pressure wash it first
Yes you need to pressure wash your fence first . You can rent one at Home Depot for about $50 . Or have someone do for you . Wait 5-7 days with
No rain , then apply the Thompson water seal transparent application
what about 1 year+ old fence? not much mold/water damage
4Runn1nYota yes you will need to pressure wash it first if it is not stained but natural cedar . If it is natural cedar or pine then yes pressure wash , let dry for 5-7 days with no rain or sprinklers hitting it , and then apply the Thompson’s. If it is stained then pressure washing a 1-2 year old fence is optional but I wouldn’t recommend unless you plan on going back over with the same stain color rather then the Thompsons. The reason being is you don’t want to wash out the stain if your looking to just apply a sealer . I would recommend just a light wash with water hose and perhaps a broom or some type of brush to give it a little scrub as you do
No problem.. You can spray a wood bleach to fresh look let dry then use a sealed to keep the fresh look. Or brush the dirt off and seal it .this will stop the process of decay which is the idea is all about
How many gallons did you use just on that small section of fence?
About 1. To 1.5 galons
Wood and water don’t mix when wood is dead. Oil and wood = good.
I wish he had listed the equipment he used........and you cannot see the bucket of Thompsons either. I bought Thompsons Clear Coat but it is NOT water based.
I wish he had listed the equipment he used........and you cannot see the bucket of Thompsons either. I bought Thompsons Clear Coat but it is NOT water based.
How Did You Get It To Spray ??? Mines So Thick It Wouldn't Fan Spray !!!
In this particular sprayer there is a small piece of plastic that you have to remove from the tip of sprayer. Check your tip to make sure there are no bits and pieces of plastic ok it it allowing to spray properly. There have been 4-5 similar questions and this was a resolution to them all
new oil based formulation in green can will not spray through traditional garden pump sprayer. Has nothing to do with plastic debris from manufacturing. The product is now much thicker and sticky.
how many feet of 6' fence both sides did that 5 gal can do?
Are you from Texas? You sound real country
What kind of sprayer are you using?
Dennis Guerrero . This was the solo 4 gallon back pack sprayer at Home Depot I purchased for $80 . I highly recommend it , does a great job and pressurizes in about 4 to 5 pumps , compared to 20 from your average garden sprayer . But I’m sure another brand would work fine too .
Good video. Thanks. Why do you need to wait 7-10 before applying to a new fence?
Because the wood that comes from the lumber yard has usually been sitting in a stack and a lot of the pickets and 2x4s retain a lot of water in them while be stored at lumber yard . They are stacked in slabs of 500 causing the pickets in the middle of slab to still retain water . In short , you need to let the pickets dry so they will soak up more stain properly and your not trapping the water in the picket . You can usually tell bc the pickets are heavier and become much lighter in weight once dry.
@@derekhelms825 Awesome. Thanks Derek!
I had a fence in stalled by the biggest fence company in my area. They told me to wait at least 3 most before I add a water seal.
actually you need to wait a lot longer than 7-10 days unless you can verify the wood has been kiln dried. If not kiln dried then 2 months at least for a drying period. Also spraying alone isnt' the best method for sealing, rather spraying and then somebody pressing the product into the wood with a brush and or roller.
Do you mix the seal with anything
No
Did you thin the Thompson water seal before spraying?
No I did not . If your having trouble with it going theu the sprayer . Check you nozzle where it sprays out of . Sometimes there’s a piece of plastic from the factory stuck in there restricting the flow . Once punctured or removed you should be fine . Another comment had the same issue and this solved it for them as well . I used a razor blade on mine to remove the piece that was restricting the flow
newer formulation in green can is oil based and will not spray through traditional garden pump sprayer. New product requires airless sprayer.
Does it have the same effect on treated pine
Yes it dirs
Thank you. Very informative!
Pure Pro and nothing Else...Good videos bro keep em coming.
Thank you Daniel !
How much do your charge for overspray on my house, my neighbors, and the flatwork?
You wouldn't need to ask that question if you throw down a tarp or cardboard on the ground and cut a piece of cardboard 8"x 20" to shield the over spray .lower the pressure . common sense is rec
Is more better?
In this situation I wouldn’t say it’s better but it definitely won’t hurt . As long as you have a good coverage you should be ok . The good thing about this product is it’s a clear coat so you don’t have to worry about the wood changing color or not matching. All this will do Is enhance the natural color of the wood and bring it out more. It works like a clear coat on a car where the water will just bead and run off the pickets rather then absorb and stain the wood causing greying.
I can't believe he is spraying pesticide on his fence.
I use a pump zero, that way it keeps the same pressure and you dont have to pump
My cedar fence was built about a month and a half ago... can I still do this? Would it be effective now?
Yes perfect time to do it. Before it turns gray
how many sq ft can you cover per gallon of this stuff?
200-400 sq ft per. Gallon what the Can says. I'm about to find out. ☘️💪
My wood fence is 7 months old and still looks new plan to seal it soon .I installed it my self although it's not perfect it looks fine to me as the " fence" contractors wanted to charge outrages labor rates for them to do it I done it for a fraction of what they wanted.
should you pressure wash fence first to clean it then put sealer on
Not 7 days in pressure treated wood
I bought the Thompsons Waterseal CLEAR to apply to my new deck. It says for cleanup use mineral spirits!! Is this product WATER BASE or OIL BASE?
I only heard him say water-based maybe 3 or 10 times
How do you clean your back pack sprayer when finished ?
Fill it with water, add a squirt of dish soap. Spray the mix about a minute down the sink. The rest of the mix can be used to clean tools tires or ??? sealers leave a film inside that are permanent and its my advice to not use the sprayer to spray fertilizer or similar things
Would it damage back pack if you use paint thinner to clean ?
I just rinse with water and I only use this sprayer for Fencing. You can use paint thinner and actually store it in the lines when not using to stay clean an me just rinse well before using
Make sure ya clean the sprayer good 👍I stained mine red it and I have overspray on everything
I was told to wait 2 months due to my wood still Being green? Is it too late now? Also what if I decide to stain it afterwards?
Product states its solvent based not water based.
"Thompson's® WaterSeal® Waterproofing Stains are water-based products that have film-forming properties to protect the wood by repelling water. Each product has its own "feel" during application; however, each product provides protection from water damage and has a coating that resists mildew and UV damage."
new oil based formulation in green can will not spray through traditional garden pump sprayer. Has nothing to do with plastic debris from manufacturing. The product is now much thicker and sticky.
Rip Derek
I want to build a shed in my backyard but treated plywood is so UnGodly expensive right now. Will this protect untreated plywood or OSB?
Bruh you gotta put siding over the plywood and a roofing material on top.
Does the natural color of the wood go back to normal after applied?
It does give the wood a slightly darker or richer look , bringing out the natural color of the cedar . When it dries it will lighten slightly but still have that glow to it .
Do you spray this right on the hardware?
More would definitely be better. You can be generous with this product.
Funniest comment I’ve read in awhile
Thanks for great video, where did you get backpack sprayer ?
Great video! Already built my own wood fence how long I have to wait for sealer them? And it will should to do pressure washer?
You need wait 4-7 days for fence pickets t dry up . They come wet from the supplier bc they way they are stored it keeps moisture in .4-7 days with no rain as pickets will be ready t e sealed
I didn’t catch the 2nd question
@@derekhelms825 ok thank you! I was referring before sealed I have to rinse out with pressure washer?
I wonder if it's a water based product ?
Haha!
Is this presure treated wood
Yes
Someone asked me to do this to their fence. How much would you charge or good price to do it for about total of 2600 square that’s including front and back
So roughly 220 feet? To be honest I charge a very low price bc I want to assure the customer gets the application done as the fence I install will look better of course . I would charge my customer about 150-200 plus materials . But I’m sure you can get 3-400 plus materials or more. It’s not like stain which I would charge about .65-.75 a sq foot
@@derekhelms825 the guys that put up my fence quoted me 1200 dollars to do that same exact stain. Blew my mind
Michael Acosta yeah that’s about right including materials. 220x6x2(both sides of fence ) =2640 sq feet . Stain is not cheap . It runs about $130 for 5 gallons and you would need about 15-20 gallons for that size fence . But also there is a lot of liability with over spray , heavy winds , etc.. I always recommend my customers to go with the pre stained materials if they want the fence stained bc you will never get the results with pre stained material then you would by staining after the fact. Regardless if you stain or not I recommend applying Thompson water seal to either application
Great video. I’m glad I finally got to see someone using a pump sprayer to apply Thompson water seal
Same here, everyone says it won’t spray
Thank you ! Yes the problem for me was a small piece of plastic on the tip of the sprayer that was not allowing to spray. Once removed it sprays fine
Great video. I tried using my Ryobi backpack sprayer and the Thompson water seal was too thick and wouldn’t spray. Just tiny fluttering that’s it. What the hell am I doing wrong?
Gotta shake it/ mix it properly . There are attachments for drill bits that helps you mix, makes all the difference when spraying !
@@spencergarcia5238 thanks 🙏🏽
My fence is a week old and is pressure treated 2x6s and 4x4s. should I allow it "dry-out" time as if i were painting it before I seal it with Thompson's
My neighbor had a deck installed, they told her to stain/seal it the next year as the pressure treated wood was too wet
@@heli400 wow. Gotcha. Thanks
Yes I recommend 7-10 days without rain before sealing it in
@@derekhelms825 thanks bud
Which brand of water sealer do use?
Thompson Water Seal , transparent .
So I’ve got brand new cedar wood fence. Measured about 90 feet or 14 panels. How many gallons of Thompson’s water sealer will I need? I’m thinking 10 gallons.
Last week I was able to spray an 8 ft board on board fence with exactly 10 gallons both sides . So yes I believe you will be fine assuming you’re is 6 foot.
Buy 5 gallons. See how far you get will determine what you need to finish
GREAT video Derek. I'm going to have about 88 feet of con common redwood to cover soon. My concern is about the sprayer, yours looks like it's working just fine, but I'm hearing/seeing a lot of complaints that some 'new formula', Thompson uses, whatever that means, makes the spray become more of a stream. Still using that sprayer? I have a small 2 gallon sprayer that's similar to yours and I'd like to use that.
I have had no problems using the solo back pack .if it can spray water it should spray the product fine. I still use to this day.
Will this product keep my new fence from turning gray? Thank you.
Yes it will . The grey color to your fence is simply dirt that penetrated the wood. If you look at my power washing video you can remove the dirt , let dry , and apply
This sealer to keep the graying out
@@derekhelms825 Thank you!
Just had new cedar fence installed, is 7-10 days enough time to wait before sealing, some sites says wait several months
In my experience, the recommended time is 6 weeks. 7-10 days is a bit premature.
If the cedar is fresh the longer you wait the faster it shrinks. The faster it shrinks creates warping. Warping creates cracks.. The sealer slows down the process and checks the damage . if you install fresh cedar with a 1/8" gap in 2 months the gap will increase more than double.with out sealer. If sealed these gap increase is 10% ...
6 weeks is way too long .it will only take 4-7 days for pickets to dry up with a little sun . If you have any rain during this time then start again from day 1
@@51pmac absolutely correct !
Do I need to clean/ pressure washe the fence before we install it?
Yes most definitely
Heyyy....My man is spraying right over the hardware now
Lol yes I get
It ahahah
@@derekhelms825 Lol. Thanks for the video tho. TH-cam is a great resource... I just built my first 6ft privacy fence and was looking for non stain protectant. Will def use a sprayer too. Cool that you can laugh about it too. Jah bless
Great video.... perfect!
I just stained my fence, should I spray this to seal the wood?
The stain you used most likely has a sealer on it already . You can apply this and it will just help more but typically the stain should be enough
Can this sealer be applied to a cedar fence?
Yes
Yes use a Hudson sprayer or back pack sprayer.. Start at the least visible spot and apply with a slow pace with the idea of over lapping 1/2 of width of spray pattern to where the amount of material begins to run or look like a water fall back off the amount to stop the waterfall that is where you keep it. Have someone following with a fat roller to take care of the excess..
You can't do it with Thompson's now. It's too thick and won't spray. I ran out and bought a brand new sprayer after my other two didn't work thinking they were old and worn out. Still wouldn't spray. I contacted Thompson's and they said they knew it wouldn't spray despite the can saying it will. They changed their formula thanks to the EPA and that made it thicker. Wasted two hours yesterday trying to get it to work and then had to wash all the sprayers out. I'm taking 4 gallons back to Menards.
I think you may be having a problem with your sprayer tip . Sometimes there’s a small piece of plastic on the top that may be clogging it up. Try clearing it out or maybe try buying another tip.
Camilla had the same problem with hers in the comments above and that seemed to be the issue . I also had this problem when I purchased this sprayer at first
new oil based formulation in green can will not spray through traditional garden pump sprayer. Has nothing to do with plastic debris from manufacturing. The product is now much thicker and sticky.
Can I use this product if I plan on staining, if so how long after applying it?
Kenneth Grandberry yes you can use it . I would recommend waiting 7-10 days with no rain before using Thompson water seal . That i
*the wood needs time to dry so it can soak up the product properly is what I was trying to say ! Lol
Thanks!
Do you stain first?7
Can I spray the Thompson’s on this year and stain it next year,?
If staining there is no need for a sealer as most stains have sealers built into mixture as well
You could always apply a clear cloak of sealer to the stained fence but do not seal first bc the stain will not take to pickets properly once sealed
Did you have to add water to the pump with the sealer to come out so easy?
No . Check your sprayer tip to make sure no plastic from the manufacturer is left in the tip that needs to be trimmed away
new oil based formulation in green can will not spray through traditional garden pump sprayer. Has nothing to do with plastic debris from manufacturing. The product is now much thicker and sticky.
How much is the cost for feet !;
I charge $29 for cedar and $26 for pine . Turnkey in the DFW area.
@@derekhelms825 $29 for how many linear feet?
No idea what went wrong here - but I purchased everything used in this video and tried the same thing. It was an absolute nightmare. It gunked up the sprayer (same sprayer used in the video) and I eventually just had to get out a brush and apply it the traditional way.
Check out previous comments. The issue is in the tip of the sprayer. There is a small piece of plastic that restricts the flow and needs to be cut out. It’s very small but left from manufacturer. Obce it’s removed the flow is no longer restricted. I have noticed this problem with many comments and this solution was the exact problem . I also returned mine the first time.
Go vack and look at the tip of the sprayer . In between you will are the small hanging piece of plastic . I’m sorry I couldn’t imagine rolling the entire fence
new oil based formulation in green can will not spray through traditional garden pump sprayer. Has nothing to do with plastic debris from manufacturing. The product is now much thicker and sticky.
actually your fence will last a lot longer than the one featured in the video as it wasn't brush and rolled afterward to really get the product in full contact with the wood.
What the name of the sprayers?
Chapin backpack sprayer
This was a solo 4 gallon sprayed from Home Depot . It cost about $80 . I highly recommend . Had mine for 3 years now and still pumping
Can you apply to an older fence if it has been soft washed or would it need to be pressure washed?
You can apply to either application as long as you wait about 5-7 days for the wood to dry so it will take the product properly and that
You don’t trap in the water causing the wood
To swell
@@derekhelms825 hi.I just installed a new cedar fence in my backyard and plan too seal it. It's rained ever since the installation was completed. Should I wait until the next dry day to seal or does it need to be dry for a week until it can be sealed?
Should I do both sides of the fence
Yes absolutely!
@@derekhelms825 can I let it air dry or do I have to wipe it down after
He's the top and bottom included..I spray the new cedar pickets and wood framing before installing. Lay them on2x4 to keep them off the ground. Apply the sealer and back roll immediately . let dry then flip and repeat. Take the time to roll the sides and the top and bottom. And take the time to completely cover everything. That is the whole idea...if the pickets are installed the bottoms and sides don't get this .
I always use old motor oil mixed with kerosene for split rail fences, trailer decks and porch decking.
not good for the environment.....
@@deannawilson .....who cares
Do I have to pressure wash new fence then apply ? Or just go ahead and apply?
If it is a new fence all you need to do is wait about 7-10 days after installation (with no rain) and then apply . If it has been installed longer then a couple months I would wash and then let dry for a few days so the pickets will take the sealer evenly.
@@derekhelms825 I have the same question but for a deck. I have a new cedar deck that was built a few weeks ago. Do I need to pressure wash the deck first with the Thompsans deck cleaner before applying the water seal?
I purchased the same sprayer and am using Thompson’s Water Seal as it cans highly recommended but the product doesn’t come out with the same force as with your sprayer so it takes me longer to cover my fence. Can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong. Thank you for the video.
The tip my be clogged or jammed with a piece of plastic from the factory .
I would take it back or try buying another tip
Thank you! That was the issue. 😊
Awesome! Glad to save you some troubles!
@@derekhelms825 the water based Thompson will spray through traditional garden pump sprayer but this newer oil based in green can will absolutely not spray. It is more like jelly and needs to be sprayed using airless.
I'm a little surprised there was no prep on the surrounding areas. What if there is a patio on the other side and you just sprayed drops on it. What about the ground and the side fence. Now, they will likely have a dark wet look. Sure, it took 2 minutes to do the fence but it could have been done better.
We did an application of this on a deck with a sponge pad, and it’s been 24 hours and the deck still looks very dark/wet/and uneven. When should this look fully dry?
With good sun about 24-48 hours .
Was it really humid where you live? That can really slow it down.
This happened to us too. Guy in the video said if doesnt matter if you overspray and that might be true on a fence because any excess will just drip down but on a deck the excess will just puddle. I recommend using a medium nap painting roller to grab up the excess that is still on there after a few hours. Dont worry you arent removing any of the protection as its already soaked up what it needs in order to be efficient, youre just getting rid of the excess.
When we go to reapply in 2 years, is washing with just water enough?
I would recommend using a high pressure nozzle garden spryer that screws on your garden hose. Apply a little dish soap and bleach or cleaner of your choice first using the same sprayer I used in video and rinse with high pressure nozzle. Let dry for at least 3 days so your not trapping the water in the wood and you should be fine to re apply the Thompson’s
How mich should I charge to do about 2600 square ft?
How much did you end up charging?
If all depends on things in the way...windows..doors plants ladder work new or old..try to combine everything in amount of hours. Decide what you are worth an hour.
Did you dilute Thompsons?
Glenn Gulia no I did not dilute
@@derekhelms825 THX
No
I wonder if you can spray over hardware?
Robbie Vigil yes you can spray right over the hardware just be sure to come behind it with a damp cloth and wipe down so it doesn’t leave it sticky . I mentioned in video but it may have been hard to hear
Yes Robbie, it's a water based product. lol
@@RealBigR i dont think it is. I used the same on my deck and the cleaning is definitely with mineral spirits so its oil based - thank god. Unless they changed formulation recently.
The transparent application is water based , like in this video The other
Stain types of Thompson water seal are oil based
Yes I k kw intend to repeat myself , just get nervous when I’m passionate of my business and where I would like to take it is all. Thank you for watching !
Can I water seal my kids😂