I've seen those hubs with grease zerks leak and ruin brakes, too. I just bought a used, 18' enclosed cargo trailer with two 7,000 lb. axles. The previous owner had way over greased the hubs and pushed grease past the seal and basically flooded the brake cavity. Two had the linings delaminated from the shoes and stuck to drums.
I agree the grease over Oil bath system on smaller axles is by far superior we have had to replace a axle due to a dry oil bath bearing. Now on Semi sized axles I prefer oil bath!
I like lamar trailers. Standard gate hold back system, 12k jack, rigid rails, 7 gauge floor, demco EZ latch coupler. Although I disagree with grease vs oil bath simply because oil is a better lubricant than grease. Years ago someone told me lamar was the best in the business and I have researched dump trailers for 10 years now and I have to say in my opinion lamar dump trailers are the gold Standard and set the bar
I can see my employees jamming on the brakes going in reverse to "unload a load faster " busting that telescoping ram I went with a 14k D max that is over built on the frame and box where it's under built compared to your trailer is in the axles wheels and tires which I plan on upgrading. Thanks for sharing
When you're doing a review of a product and you keep stressing that it is a heavy gauge boxed frame rail and you say that is heavy-gauge about 7 times why don't you go ahead and say what gauge it actually is?
Dunno if anyone cares but if you guys are stoned like me during the covid times then you can stream pretty much all of the new movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Been watching with my gf recently xD
@@dpd16790 2018 Ford Super Duty F-250 Maximum Trailering Capacity (lbs) 12900 Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs) 1290 Fifth Wheel Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs) 12900
Another thing with oil bath is they really need to be visually checked regularly to make sure oil is still in there. With a solid hub cover you are not going to take everything off just to look at the clear cap every trip.
Good evening. JD how about a possible walk through at Texas Pride? Pending allowing for a vlog.? Maybe after the new year.? Be mindful of going bearing buddies as too much grease pumped in and you can blow out inner grease seal. Improperly maintained bearings and spindles can lead to grease not reaching inside/inner bearing. Not trolling just stating things that can go bad. Oil bath and greased bearings each have pros/cons. Good info here. Be safe. Merry Christmas.
That's a nice unit. I have been looking for a 5x10 single axle dumper with 5200# or 7000# axle but there isn't that much of a choose or I'm looking in the wrong place.
My thought on grease vs oil bath axles is this. If you use the trailer often, like weekly or more, then oil bath is great. But if the trailer sits for a long time between uses, then I'd go with grease, because oil bath axles leak when they sit for a long period of time, then you have the mess and safty issues you discussed. With grease, just give it a few shots between uses.
What do you think about the strength of an A frame style trailer vs a single peice i beam frame. Ive read the i beam is stronger and that A frame tends to crack near the suspension where it ends due to flex.
At PDQ Trailers we build our entire top box out of 2x3 11/14 gauge rect tube all uprights on 2' centers and crossmember on 16" centers for a less wavy floor unless we do a 7 gauge floor the bottom is constructed out of 2x6 3/16 rect tube nobody on the market is building trailers as strong as us Especially with all USA MADE STEEL
I didn’t hear anything about fenders. You WILL stand on those, and sometimes holding hundreds of pounds. They look beefy enough to support 1-2 men. Also, WHEN you get a puncture in a tire, please detail the repair. I know that I have L-rated tires on our dump trailer and every time I had to plug it, I had to drill the hole out first before I could even get the plug through the plys. I can’t imagine how difficult those hockey pucks will be.
Here's a question....How wide is the top of the bucket and how wide is the bottom of the bucket? I'm assuming that is a "7ft" wide trailer? Is it 7ft wide at the top....or the bottom? There's a substantial loss between top and bottom according to the pictures.
I think that if the tongue was even with the main frame (front rail penetrated) it would be stronger and look cleaner at the front. The c-channel and tongue hanging below looks kind of cobbled together. Also, using the drop-leg on the tongue jack makes hook-up and disconnect much faster.
John, you idea of using a solid beam for the entire frame would allow for a slightly lower deck height but would likely be weaker unless you used a much thicker gauge I beam. The way it's designed currently transfers energy away from the section supporting the dump body to the aframe and this increases the overall load handling. At 20k lbs you would want as much load dissipation as possible.
They have an option for Dexter axles which cost a bit more if you want to add them, but from a performance perspective, they say they're the same. I recently toured their factory (Sunday's video) and saw the sheer number of axles they go through. It was literally thousands of axles. I can honestly say that even though Dexter has a great name to them, it's not a fail proof product, considering they are installed on almost all RVs and many owners dislike their long term performance. Every product will have a failure rate per 100 units (Problems Per 100 units). I'm not sure how their axles compare in terms of PP100 axles installed, but I bet it's very small.
Do you still have your flatbed equipment hauler? I remember you gcvwr of your 450 and the trailer exceeded 26,000 pounds and we discussed this cdl issue. You had told me it was not under cdl or fmcsa regulations. Has your opinion changed. Also, there may be a problem with De-rating trailer or truck to avoid cdl or fmcsa regulations. After all, a trailer that would have had a gvwr of 20,000 pounds is still the same even though a sticker says it’s gvwr is 12,000.
Whats your opinion on pulling say a 16 foot car/equipment trailer with a half ton truck? I am looking at getting a car trailer for various purposes other than just moving the odd vehicle here and there.
Using the grease fitting in the end of the axle will push grease out the seal onto the brakes as well. That fitting should never be used. Instead of people being lazy they need to take bearings apart, clean, check and repack properly
You need to watch Texas pride trailer test. You are miss informing your viewers on the telescoping lift. It is NOT the better lifting system. The dual ram trail out lifted the telescoping ram by 4k.
Buy a Diamond C dump. Trust me, I owned 2 Texas Pride dumps and used daily in business. Constantly have issues that I had to fix and sloppy built trailers. After the sale the warranty office is terrible and never delivers what they promised. This guy had a trailer built exactly for him knowing he was going to review it so obviously they made it perfect. Trust me. Buy another brand dump trailer!!!!
Kelly Giesbrecht I’ve owned my trailer right about 2 year with It 7x14 low pro 14k dump i am always putting 6 ton plus rock/ trash/ lumber and hasn’t failed me at all. I am planning on buying an iron bull 16 foot long gooseneck witch is a next step up. Also deepens on how you load a trailer And what you use it for. I use mine for my demolition company...... the paint last no rust I am from oregon always raining and easy to maintain and they provide road side assistance. the price for it ain’t bad at all. I’ve seen several trailers and the welds aren’t the greatest and the paint is cheap. I recommend iron bull but everyone has their opinions
Well if I was to order one I would make two changes. #1 electric over hydraulic disc brakes # 2 the hydraulic jack. I have a RV I up graded the brakes to the afor mentioned system I WILL NEVER order a nother trailer with those antique drum brake system Just my opinion
I have to say, I just took delivery of a "dump exactly spec'd like Big Truck Big RV" but with 4ft sides... and it looks horrible compared to yours. They oversprayed everything.. The front cylinder....hydraulic lines....bolts...and didnt even bother painting the back side that was facing the trailer of the hydraulic cylinder itself. My welds and caulk look HORRIBLE.. I asked for no stake pockets and even had my Reb confirm it wouldn't have them only to show up after driving 800 miles to pick it up and they were there...along with not being Derated... I love your video's JD....but I feel this is a huge misrepresentation of the product....because its not what they build for the general public...they were meticulous with yours since it was going to be on TH-cam. I did reach out to them and was told to send an email with photos and all...I'm waiting to see what happens.
@@BTBRVReviews Fair enough. I do prefer quality. but I enjoy watching repairs on second rate items. Thanks for providing us with wonderful videos regardless of the subject.
not to bust your nuts, but your trailer was de-rated, not overbuilt and single hoist is old news on dump trailers, unless you are buying budget trailers.
Not bursting my bubble. I could easily say I have a 12k trailer that is built the same as a 20k trailer.... Potatoes.. also, all dump trailer manufacturers using a front mount single telescopic lift view it as a premium upgrade. You are referring to a single ram that is mounted in the middle center of the dump.....and you're being a troll. Hope you are having a great day.
I’ve talked to a lot of people who own different Texas pride trailers and everyone I’ve talked to have loved them
I've seen those hubs with grease zerks leak and ruin brakes, too. I just bought a used, 18' enclosed cargo trailer with two 7,000 lb. axles. The previous owner had way over greased the hubs and pushed grease past the seal and basically flooded the brake cavity. Two had the linings delaminated from the shoes and stuck to drums.
I agree the grease over Oil bath system on smaller axles is by far superior we have had to replace a axle due to a dry oil bath bearing. Now on Semi sized axles I prefer oil bath!
I like lamar trailers. Standard gate hold back system, 12k jack, rigid rails, 7 gauge floor, demco EZ latch coupler. Although I disagree with grease vs oil bath simply because oil is a better lubricant than grease. Years ago someone told me lamar was the best in the business and I have researched dump trailers for 10 years now and I have to say in my opinion lamar dump trailers are the gold Standard and set the bar
I can see my employees jamming on the brakes going in reverse to "unload a load faster " busting that telescoping ram I went with a 14k D max that is over built on the frame and box where it's under built compared to your trailer is in the axles wheels and tires which I plan on upgrading. Thanks for sharing
I really like the aluminum ramps. I have steel ramps that are a bear to get set up
When you're doing a review of a product and you keep stressing that it is a heavy gauge boxed frame rail and you say that is heavy-gauge about 7 times why don't you go ahead and say what gauge it actually is?
Dunno if anyone cares but if you guys are stoned like me during the covid times then you can stream pretty much all of the new movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Been watching with my gf recently xD
@Reuben Talon yup, I have been watching on Instaflixxer for months myself =)
Looks very well-built. I never did understand why scissor lift or pushing backwards against the frame was considered a good way to lift a dump.
Well picture them reversed.
This trailer should be a gooseneck. 12000lbs to the Chevrolet Tahoe does not attach. Only attach this trailer to the tractor. Hi from cold Russia :)
im about to order the same bumper pull trailer to pull with my f250 but the triple axle version that is built for 30k
@@dpd16790 2018 Ford Super Duty F-250 Maximum Trailering Capacity (lbs) 12900
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs) 1290
Fifth Wheel Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs) 12900
Very impressive. Clearly well built and good design.
Another thing with oil bath is they really need to be visually checked regularly to make sure oil is still in there. With a solid hub cover you are not going to take everything off just to look at the clear cap every trip.
Mix reviews on Texas pride what do you guys think should I buy one?
Good evening. JD how about a possible walk through at Texas Pride? Pending allowing for a vlog.? Maybe after the new year.? Be mindful of going bearing buddies as too much grease pumped in and you can blow out inner grease seal. Improperly maintained bearings and spindles can lead to grease not reaching inside/inner bearing. Not trolling just stating things that can go bad. Oil bath and greased bearings each have pros/cons. Good info here. Be safe. Merry Christmas.
Good idea. I ask my sales guy if I can do a walk-through of their factory. It's only about 4 hours away.
You'll like Sunday's video my friend.
That's a nice unit. I have been looking for a 5x10 single axle dumper with 5200# or 7000# axle but there isn't that much of a choose or I'm looking in the wrong place.
My thought on grease vs oil bath axles is this. If you use the trailer often, like weekly or more, then oil bath is great. But if the trailer sits for a long time between uses, then I'd go with grease, because oil bath axles leak when they sit for a long period of time, then you have the mess and safty issues you discussed. With grease, just give it a few shots between uses.
What do you think about the strength of an A frame style trailer vs a single peice i beam frame. Ive read the i beam is stronger and that A frame tends to crack near the suspension where it ends due to flex.
Where did you get that Coupler Lock? Looks right
At PDQ Trailers we build our entire top box out of 2x3 11/14 gauge rect tube all uprights on 2' centers and crossmember on 16" centers for a less wavy floor unless we do a 7 gauge floor the bottom is constructed out of 2x6 3/16 rect tube nobody on the market is building trailers as strong as us Especially with all USA MADE STEEL
What is the brand solar panel you have on your dump trailer please?
How much do these run? $$. Great video. Thank you!
I didn’t hear anything about fenders. You WILL stand on those, and sometimes holding hundreds of pounds. They look beefy enough to support 1-2 men.
Also, WHEN you get a puncture in a tire, please detail the repair. I know that I have L-rated tires on our dump trailer and every time I had to plug it, I had to drill the hole out first before I could even get the plug through the plys. I can’t imagine how difficult those hockey pucks will be.
Are you willing to share the exact specs of this trailer for it appears to be 360 Cubic Feet of storage capacity and is under CDL Requirements?
Don’t know if the T-handles would work up north could rust and seize up nice trailer though
WD40 would prevent that. There is plenty of tolerance to keep them moving well. I believe hinges and other movable components would seize up first
@@BTBRVReviews why not galvanized steel or an aluminum dump trailer to prevent rust issues?
Here's a question....How wide is the top of the bucket and how wide is the bottom of the bucket? I'm assuming that is a "7ft" wide trailer? Is it 7ft wide at the top....or the bottom? There's a substantial loss between top and bottom according to the pictures.
Why not go with hot dipped galvanized steel due to rust issues?
In my home state, a trailer of 10,001 lbs or more requires a CDL with trailer endorsement.
I think that if the tongue was even with the main frame (front rail penetrated) it would be stronger and look cleaner at the front. The c-channel and tongue hanging below looks kind of cobbled together.
Also, using the drop-leg on the tongue jack makes hook-up and disconnect much faster.
John, you idea of using a solid beam for the entire frame would allow for a slightly lower deck height but would likely be weaker unless you used a much thicker gauge I beam. The way it's designed currently transfers energy away from the section supporting the dump body to the aframe and this increases the overall load handling. At 20k lbs you would want as much load dissipation as possible.
Why did you go bumper pull and not gooseneck? Getting ready to order and debating between the two. Any insight would be great.
I like the speed of hitching up a bumper pull... I like my gooseneck also though
Did you clear coat it?
Yep dream trailer!!
how about your telescopic cylinder?made in US?
Where can I get one
Texas pride does not use Dexter brand axles, I hope their generic axles are quality made and replacement bearings and parts are available locally.
They have an option for Dexter axles which cost a bit more if you want to add them, but from a performance perspective, they say they're the same. I recently toured their factory (Sunday's video) and saw the sheer number of axles they go through. It was literally thousands of axles. I can honestly say that even though Dexter has a great name to them, it's not a fail proof product, considering they are installed on almost all RVs and many owners dislike their long term performance. Every product will have a failure rate per 100 units (Problems Per 100 units). I'm not sure how their axles compare in terms of PP100 axles installed, but I bet it's very small.
Do you still have your flatbed equipment hauler? I remember you gcvwr of your 450 and the trailer exceeded 26,000 pounds and we discussed this cdl issue. You had told me it was not under cdl or fmcsa regulations. Has your opinion changed. Also, there may be a problem with De-rating trailer or truck to avoid cdl or fmcsa regulations. After all, a trailer that would have had a gvwr of 20,000 pounds is still the same even though a sticker says it’s gvwr is 12,000.
why not a gooseneck?
Whats your opinion on pulling say a 16 foot car/equipment trailer with a half ton truck? I am looking at getting a car trailer for various purposes other than just moving the odd vehicle here and there.
any issues with rust ?
Texas pride link doesn't work anymore?
What are you planning to use the dump trailer for?
To take your momma to the grocery store.
@@heythere3780 LOL
If I'm gonna buy a dumper that requires a CDL, I'm gonna go with the biggest one.
Yeah called a truck axle
How long to get a trailer once it is ordered?
What brand of tires did you put on it?
What diameter is the hydraulic ram?
Using the grease fitting in the end of the axle will push grease out the seal onto the brakes as well. That fitting should never be used. Instead of people being lazy they need to take bearings apart, clean, check and repack properly
Thank you
Oil bath is 10x better than grease
Nice trailer but the spare tire cover is designed for the other side or the back. The flag should never be flown that direction.
I went to their web site they didn’t show this dump
Does anyone else prefer a pintle hook?
How do you load material from the side ?? Should have a side open door .
The C channel looks very small on this trailer
These look awesome
I aggree
How much? $$
I looked at there trailers but dont see any built like this?
(Us built) make something similar
You need to watch Texas pride trailer test. You are miss informing your viewers on the telescoping lift. It is NOT the better lifting system. The dual ram trail out lifted the telescoping ram by 4k.
Buy a Diamond C dump. Trust me, I owned 2 Texas Pride dumps and used daily in business. Constantly have issues that I had to fix and sloppy built trailers. After the sale the warranty office is terrible and never delivers what they promised. This guy had a trailer built exactly for him knowing he was going to review it so obviously they made it perfect. Trust me. Buy another brand dump trailer!!!!
diamond c is the best, and the price reflects that.... Texas pride dump trailers are made with 6x2 x 3/16 tubing. diamond c uses an engineered I beam.
Price?
$10,900 as specd
@@BTBRVReviews wow very reasonable for how high quality the build is!
@@BTBRVReviews thats a hood price for such a nice trailer
Iron bull are the best dump trailers in the game
Kelly Giesbrecht I’ve owned my trailer right about 2 year with It 7x14 low pro 14k dump i am always putting 6 ton plus rock/ trash/ lumber and hasn’t failed me at all. I am planning on buying an iron bull 16 foot long gooseneck witch is a next step up. Also deepens on how you load a trailer And what you use it for. I use mine for my demolition company...... the paint last no rust I am from oregon always raining and easy to maintain and they provide road side assistance. the price for it ain’t bad at all. I’ve seen several trailers and the welds aren’t the greatest and the paint is cheap. I recommend iron bull but everyone has their opinions
Well if I was to order one I would make two changes. #1 electric over hydraulic disc brakes # 2 the hydraulic jack.
I have a RV I up graded the brakes to the afor mentioned system I WILL NEVER order a nother trailer with those antique drum brake system
Just my opinion
Sounds like a salesman to me
I think I should win this.
torque jack by speedbinders.com for a powered jack
Cool
I have to say, I just took delivery of a "dump exactly spec'd like Big Truck Big RV" but with 4ft sides... and it looks horrible compared to yours. They oversprayed everything.. The front cylinder....hydraulic lines....bolts...and didnt even bother painting the back side that was facing the trailer of the hydraulic cylinder itself. My welds and caulk look HORRIBLE.. I asked for no stake pockets and even had my Reb confirm it wouldn't have them only to show up after driving 800 miles to pick it up and they were there...along with not being Derated... I love your video's JD....but I feel this is a huge misrepresentation of the product....because its not what they build for the general public...they were meticulous with yours since it was going to be on TH-cam. I did reach out to them and was told to send an email with photos and all...I'm waiting to see what happens.
I'm sorry to hear that my friend.. please let me know if they rectify the situation.
Quality product equals no video content. A second rate product could provide hours of content.
I disagree. Quality products equal tons of usage video content. Second rate products lead to tons of repair content.
@@BTBRVReviews Fair enough. I do prefer quality. but I enjoy watching repairs on second rate items. Thanks for providing us with wonderful videos regardless of the subject.
Your flag is backwards.
Dump trailers are getting way over priced.
This is like watching a nerd talk about his new graphics card. Enough with the hand movements.
not to bust your nuts, but your trailer was de-rated, not overbuilt and single hoist is old news on dump trailers, unless you are buying budget trailers.
Not bursting my bubble. I could easily say I have a 12k trailer that is built the same as a 20k trailer.... Potatoes.. also, all dump trailer manufacturers using a front mount single telescopic lift view it as a premium upgrade. You are referring to a single ram that is mounted in the middle center of the dump.....and you're being a troll. Hope you are having a great day.
What brand locks are on the front?
What sides walls on this trailer and what’s the length? Thank you Sir