Let's not forget that while Hemingway was passing out chocolates, he was hit by a mortar and even though both his legs were severely injured, he dragged the soldiers to safety before seeking treatment for himself. That's not a, "manufactured image." That's the actual image of one brave dude! Hemingway wasn't a bad man; he was a man of his times--and a damn impressive one at that.
I think the key to what you are saying is that it is not fair to look at people who lived in prior eras and apply the value system of your society to their's, it's like comparing apples and oranges. Value in Hemingway in my opinion should be measured in reference to how he communicated the values of his time. He did an amazing job of doing just that!
Brave and prejudiced are not mutually exclusive. You can make the argument that his time made him what he was and that is a reason to not blame him if you want, but being a brave person does not make you a good one.
Yes the best Professors today get cudos for being comformist to the status quo - Would he have the same speech if he did his critique 50 years ago. To say he was a narcissist and a war hero seems like a contradiction.
Yeah, I’m so exhausted by the haughty inclination of people today to look down upon people who lived in completely different times as if we can’t fawn of their best contributions and lessons.
Describing Hemingway's persona as a manufactured image is a pretty tough critique. The guy did what he wanted, flawed or not, and people respected that and still do. While his dry, honest and clear writing style is a factor, I read his books because of his passion and values. I hope your students don't think of him as anti-woman propaganda who wouldn't be a notable author if it weren't for Cezanne, but of an adventurer who could tell a great story.
I agree. You don’t hunt and gut big game in Africa, set fishing world records and obsess over bullfighting unless you are a bona fide man’s man. The modern critique that it was all a facade is vomit worthy and dishonest. Hemingway is probably turning in his grave over this stuff.
After having read A Farewell to Arms and For Whom the Bell Tolls, it’s pretty clear that his purpose in writing these books isn’t propagandistic to the suppression of when. Not even close. He was just depicting women who lived in those days. Those books aren’t even ultimately about women at their core.
@@carraway8084 That's up to the people from that era. What I see nowadays are things like students unbolting statues of the great individuals who funded the university they are currently attending because these figures didn't fight against racism during their time (or whatever wokist reason they come up with). Constantly throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
How is it that average TH-camrs provide better discussions of Hemingway and his writing than academics? There are much better videos on Hemingway than this one.
Manufactured persona? Did he or did he not do those things? Oh, he did? I see. Well, just a moment while I discount your whole damned thesis. The distance between a man who acted and a man who thinks about a man who acted is a very great thing.
Some useful points. The Hemingway and Cezanne on repetition. The pics and words interwoven was illuminating. My disappointment, He never mentions that Hemingway used his art to address eternal themes of facing our own mortality and finding meaning in the face of an insurmountable situation. Who did that better than Hemingway?
Something else to consider : Ernest, a few days after the Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 in the Florida Keys, got up to Key Largo to assist cleaning up piles of bodies.....imagine that scene.
Mark Ott was clever to get the downsides of Hemingway's personality stated and out of the way so that he could focus on why "Papa" Hem is the most influential writer of the 20th Century--and hopefully stave off the burning of his books for a few more years!
This guy was so boring I started reading the comments. Only to find that everyone else thought he was boring too. It is a harsh judgement but it is fair and bold and true.
The professional forensic psychiatrist and amateur literary researcher Andrew Farah said something perceptive about this: Artistic creation is a transcendent activity. Attempting to find the meaning of artistic creation in the artist's biography is like trying to disassemble the TV in order to find the football game. The football game isn't in the TV and creativity is not in the artist. Both are somewhere else.
I like the part of the analogy between how Cezanne paints and how Hemingway writes. However, I disagree with the accusations because, to me, Hemingway is a reflection of his time.
Showing the painting and how that influenced Hemingway was very interesting! The part about him being problematic seemed petty. Everyone can point out flaws in other people because we all have them. No matter someone’s politics or world views or societal views, you have to respect someone who goes out and puts it all out on the line and lives. I fell like modern culture is too quick to judge others. It feels like we are trying to make it seem like we are superior humans. Lacks respect.
Hemingway was a free man of liever fully to his potentials . Hé lived a life most people would like to have but few have enough courage bring into partice
Hemingway was a great man. He was the original anti fascist. The US gov wanted Hem to publicly denounce Castro, and he would not comply. Not only was he a creative artist, but he had more character than most Americans of today.
There is always this contrived speaking style with all TED Talks stuff. They must tutor them in how to act and speak unnatural and boring. I'd rather the guy just stand at a podium and act nervous. At least it would seem authentic. Authentic is always more interesting.
That's what accepting this gender ideaology nonsense will do to you. He basically lives his entire academic life apologising for his skin colour and debasing himself. That's gonna do something bad to you psycologically.
When I think of the characters Hemingway portrayed I think of people who served in the military or sacrificed in some way. I also think of the detail that went into his writing and how when I read his writing I am transported to the times he wrote about, such as the period of WW 1 and what that must have been like. I myself was a competitive swimmer in high school and college and a certified scuba diver. Once I was diving in the Caribbean and I was swimming past an Atlantic barracuda and those are deadly. Somehow I passed without being bitten and was amazed by the powerful beauty of the animal, but those experiences remind me of the writing of Hemingway: dangerous, awkward, or dubious. If he had been a family member, he would have been a valued uncle if I had one such as him. A little crazy, almost untouchable, but always interesting. 😊
I used to used to think TED talks were enlightening, Hemingway was one of the premier writers of the 20th century. This knob is one of the premier posers of left wing, politicaly correct academia.
You may want to praise Joan Didion in '98 for a meaning full breakdown of his first paragraph. Foot noting should be a virtue. Good will using chocolate should be applauded in all circumstances.
Hemingway's weak willed father committed suicide because of his overbearing, wacko wife. His domineering mother caused irreparable damage in his early childhood . She tried to turn him into a girl, made him wear girls clothes even calling him and his sister my girls. What happens to a child in their formative years they never get over. It's amazing how all these people who write bad things about Hemingway's masculinity leave out his mother's corrosive, lifelong influence over him. How many sons are ruined by their domineering, selfish mothers?
I'm sorry twenty-first-century liberal professor but Hemingway wasn't issuing Identity or gender statements in his writings. He was just writing. He was just being who he was. Even loaded with basic human flaws, someone like him would be so refreshing today. The world is full of sissies and snowflakes.
You talk about a manufactured image and you never knew the man, weren't even born. Yet you are so sure of his intentions and accentuate his perceived faults. But you are infatuated. Sad, dude.
Sometimes when reading Hemingway I will stop and exclaim, "oh, damn you anyway", because the writing is so beautiful that I almost can't stand it. Then I'll read it again.
This lecturer demonstrates everything wront with professors. He ignores every great contribution Hemmingway made to literature, and instead focuses on ideological nonsense. Don't send your kids to college.
the presentation gets better in the second half and he says some insightful things, but this guy is so ashamed to be a male (what he calls "regressive masculinity") that he projects his self-loathing onto Hemingway. This is a sin. This is trendy scholarship. He should humbly get some balls and recognize that life is not a Maharishi pipe dream. Hemingway was a reflection of his times -- writing his greatest works in between two world wars.
It's a disingenuous representation for sure. He chooses to highlight his alcoholism while ignoring the very likely fact that much if it was caused by PTSD and that his suicide very well could be attributed to his wife forcing him to go through electroshock therapy after his accident and his inability to think clearly and write later in life
"Great men have great faults." I judge Hemingway strictly on the basis of his art, an art that took modern American literature in a new direction. He was imitated but not duplicated by an entire generation of writers. Today, Hemingway would be diagnosed as manic/depressive, bipolar, a family trait: no less than five Hemingway's committed suicide. He was as pure a writer as they come. He had a specific philosophy about writing that he practiced until the day he took his own life. Hemingway's writing style reflected his physical ethic: short, clear sentences, devoid of the cluttering influence of subordinate clauses. Each sentence flowed into the next sentence to describe action as only he could experience and describe it. The comparison to Cezanne is instrumental. Cezanne was the father of modern art just as Hemingway was the father of modern American literature. Cezanne's little cubes (the forerunner to Cubism) are analogous to Hemingway's compact sentences that left things unsaid, (read "Hills Like White Elephants"). The reader sensed the meaning of the story without it being overtly stated. Like an iceberg, where the bulk of its mass is under water, Hemingway's style gave you the tip of the iceberg, while simultaneously conveying meaning without actually stating it. Gabriel Garcia Marquez (One Hundred Years of Solitude), a South American writer who is credited with bringing literary modernism to the fore, stated that he learned more about writing after reading Hemingway, than any other writer before or since.
The speaker never makes the point of his speech unless the listener accepts the precept that words are like paint. If that was this professor's goal it was a poorly stated one in my opinion. For me the lesson of any of Hemingway's stories is the survival of the human spirit over the tragic events that occur in each of our lives. His final lesson taught when he could not bear the vicissitudes of life that brought old age.
Bukowsi said "Don't be a boring writer, the libraries of the world have yawned themselves to sleep over your kind. This guy must have bored thousands of students to near death.
This speaker is horrible. Trashing a man that he is making money off of. Often times, the most brilliant artists are also the most troubled individuals. It is just a part of the human condition. You can teach people using negative examples without judge mental tones. Perhaps then society can move forward and learn from genuine people instead of wallowing in misery, and creating a narrative that suits the selling of your latest lecture or ebook
It's difficult to study the minimalist style in France. With all the research in English and reading multiple genre, I started to understand how this particular style work. For amusement, I rewrite original text in Minimalist form and understanding its impact. Each element is classed as Description, Thought, Action or Dialogue but I realize they are more like Exposition, Comment-like (alias 4th wall breaking) and Questions. Thoses are the elements we should remove, along with Thought. Characters psychology are expressed throught Actions and Dialogues. We should keep in mind that Ernest was a journalist 1:32 which is my least favourite job because they tend to modify the narrative to creates superficial emotions but this isn't the case with Ernest. By describing only the surface, it allows the reader to feel emotionally invested with a neutral narrative. This isn't like popular genre which characters are selling point thanks to deformation. I learned that the smallest, the most banal thing, should not be avoided. And also treating words as tool of description, not decorative. 2:38 Award can be painful. Really painful. Psychologically painful. 7:48 This is fascinating! Cezanne also treats technic as tool of expression!
Hemingway had hemochromatosis which lead to his suicide along with several severe head injuries which can make one depressed and suicidal. See the book The Not So Old Man and the Sea for proofs and why the author thinks he was murdered.
Bro, drink a cup of coffee before you do a ted talk. This is why i love TH-cam. There's 3000 videos better than this one done by guys working minimum wage jobs
This guy is too entrenched in (post) modern orthodoxies that he has learned from goofy women and is using them to pass judgement on a man like Hemingway. Be honest sir, forget what you have been taught and accept what you feel
You can't remove the context of the times and use modern labels to define a master of his craft and time , and time after . Attempting to improve your relevance by deconstruction of others is normal - sure you can deconstruct another's life , but be fair and accurate and include context , don't mislead . Toxic masculinity was embedded in America culture long before Hemingway - media was/is/always has been utilized to keep that game going ,because male dominance ran the world ,at a time , that created the men of those times , and the submissive culture that was lived in , tolerated by, the young , woman, people of color , the poor and homosexuals . We have evolved ,Hemingway through his literature helped us with his seeds , he did tremendous good and was just a person of his times , and experienced traumas .
Wow, I feel like I'm back in Catholic Church in the 3rd grade, complete with the echo. Better not doze off because if the jesuit notices he will come and cuff you around the head. How exciting.
He was a man, with his faults. Like all of us. But very few people have the gifts he had. I could give a better lecture on Hemingway than this person is doing. And I do. To myself.
A cheap man taking cheap shots. He thinks TEDx Talks are about cheap thrills. No. Never have I heard a talk that worships entertainment and shock value as much as this. By the time he mentions the "interconnectedness of nature", I just wanted to throw up.
The political and gendar correct stuf not so relevant. But the cezanne art and the way hemmingway painted with his words very interesting. Would like to go and read a farewell to arms now.
Manufactured? So you've done no actual research into his life. This man was a doer. He went out and did stuff, manly stuff that required hard work and grit. Much more than can be said for you I'm sure.
Its my opinion if a write loves God and hates mankind he is probably worth listening to. Sometimes contempt can be a form of hidden love. However I don't think I am talking about Hemingway but there are many writers that are misunderstood.
Indeed, a terrible speaker, right? Falls into one of the classic pitfalls of speaking, right? That of turning a statement into a non existent test or challenge of some kind issued to the listener. I'd hate to be in any of his classes, right?
Such an interesting person spoken about by such a bland guy. Should have called it so fascinating, so boring. "Manufactered image"? Seriously? I'm not a literary scholar or a Hemimgway scholar, but seriously? I hope people aren't getting their only information/opinions about Hemingway from this guy.
This is terrible. I have spent a great deal of time trying to figure out 1/8 of the iceberg of Hemingway and Hemingway is too big an Iceberg and I can't say it's possible. This man is a pedantic and really does come across as lacking in masculinity and attempting to compensate through a overly academic, postmodernist critical theory, etc etc etc absurd theory about Cezanne. He's like a child trying to get another piece of the giving tree when the very stump has been burned out.
Let's not forget that while Hemingway was passing out chocolates, he was hit by a mortar and even though both his legs were severely injured, he dragged the soldiers to safety before seeking treatment for himself. That's not a, "manufactured image." That's the actual image of one brave dude!
Hemingway wasn't a bad man; he was a man of his times--and a damn impressive one at that.
I think the key to what you are saying is that it is not fair to look at people who lived in prior eras and apply the value system of your society to their's, it's like comparing apples and oranges. Value in Hemingway in my opinion should be measured in reference to how he communicated the values of his time. He did an amazing job of doing just that!
Brave and prejudiced are not mutually exclusive. You can make the argument that his time made him what he was and that is a reason to not blame him if you want, but being a brave person does not make you a good one.
thank you. the professor suffers from self-loathing, which he then projects onto Hem
@@SirRaxos bravery is a good thing, no?
@@Napalm6b I think MJ was just pointing out how Ott is misrepresenting Hemingway to fit the image he's trying to portray of him
You can not speak in absolutes when referring to the ideas of another especially through art. Kills me that this dude is a professor.
Yes the best Professors today get cudos for being comformist to the status quo
- Would he have the same speech if he did his critique 50 years ago.
To say he was a narcissist and a war hero seems like a contradiction.
Yeah, I’m so exhausted by the haughty inclination of people today to look down upon people who lived in completely different times as if we can’t fawn of their best contributions and lessons.
Hemingway wrote about his experiences and what he knew about. Nothing more. He was great in doing so.
Even beyond great!
It’s really that simple.
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I've got a feeling Hemingway would have loved Twitter.
Yes, actually he/she did the initial research manipulating the hashtag. A Computer programmer in this lifetime. Peace. 💜
I think he might be a frequent target of cancel culture.
I would say Instagram as well
Somehow I can't see Hemingway writing a Tweet, or even speaking that silly word.
Or TikTok
Describing Hemingway's persona as a manufactured image is a pretty tough critique. The guy did what he wanted, flawed or not, and people respected that and still do. While his dry, honest and clear writing style is a factor, I read his books because of his passion and values. I hope your students don't think of him as anti-woman propaganda who wouldn't be a notable author if it weren't for Cezanne, but of an adventurer who could tell a great story.
I agree. You don’t hunt and gut big game in Africa, set fishing world records and obsess over bullfighting unless you are a bona fide man’s man. The modern critique that it was all a facade is vomit worthy and dishonest. Hemingway is probably turning in his grave over this stuff.
After having read A Farewell to Arms and For Whom the Bell Tolls, it’s pretty clear that his purpose in writing these books isn’t propagandistic to the suppression of when. Not even close. He was just depicting women who lived in those days. Those books aren’t even ultimately about women at their core.
Judging people from the past with trend values of today is pretty lame.
The deconstruction of his writing was interesting though.
Ageed. Those who can, do; those who can't do, teach; those who can do neither become critics, hence Ott.
They were often considered as jerks back then too.
@@carraway8084 That's up to the people from that era. What I see nowadays are things like students unbolting statues of the great individuals who funded the university they are currently attending because these figures didn't fight against racism during their time (or whatever wokist reason they come up with). Constantly throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
If i did one tenth of what of what Hemingway achieved , i would consider my life well lived .
The last great American man.
How is it that average TH-camrs provide better discussions of Hemingway and his writing than academics? There are much better videos on Hemingway than this one.
Yeah. To me this was incredibly boring. Can you recommend some videos on Hemingway?
Yeah! But you´re not one better provider
I totally agree that this guy is mediocre. see my comment above.
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Absolutely. watch the PBS/Ken Burns
2021 documentary. It's 6 hours and worth every second.
We cannot judge people of the past by our current social standards.
A lecture about the most interesting man in the world by the most boring man in the world.
hahahahahahaha! you're right!!!
You are right.
That's not fair. It's about Hemingway not about the presenter.
Manufactured persona? Did he or did he not do those things? Oh, he did? I see. Well, just a moment while I discount your whole damned thesis.
The distance between a man who acted and a man who thinks about a man who acted is a very great thing.
Well said.
A chasm.
Some useful points. The Hemingway and Cezanne on repetition. The pics and words interwoven was illuminating. My disappointment, He never mentions that Hemingway used his art to address eternal themes of facing our own mortality and finding meaning in the face of an insurmountable situation. Who did that better than Hemingway?
Absolutely abhor deconstructionist teaching of great authors.
so did Hemingway
Hemingway too.
Something else to consider : Ernest, a few days after the Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 in the Florida Keys, got up to Key Largo to assist cleaning up piles of bodies.....imagine that scene.
"Manufactured image"...........Really?
Really.
This wasn't even about his work, he just disparaged the man for 9 minutes, then said you can't excuse it, but look at the art.
Mark Ott was clever to get the downsides of Hemingway's personality stated and out of the way so that he could focus on why "Papa" Hem is the most influential writer of the 20th Century--and hopefully stave off the burning of his books for a few more years!
This guy was so boring I started reading the comments. Only to find that everyone else thought he was boring too. It is a harsh judgement but it is fair and bold and true.
I didn't find him boring, but I don't have much a case, seeing that I listened to him while getting ready for a nap.
You´re not so interesting
Stripped Cover Lit hahaha same
Exciting writer. Boring lecture. Typical...
A journeyman teacher ripping on one of the greats. Good going.
That proof doesn't know what he is talking about.
He makes some good points..... confined within the repressive box that is political correctness in modern day academia.
The professional forensic psychiatrist and amateur literary researcher Andrew Farah said something perceptive about this: Artistic creation is a transcendent activity. Attempting to find the meaning of artistic creation in the artist's biography is like trying to disassemble the TV in order to find the football game. The football game isn't in the TV and creativity is not in the artist. Both are somewhere else.
I like the part of the analogy between how Cezanne paints and how Hemingway writes. However, I disagree with the accusations because, to me, Hemingway is a reflection of his time.
We need more Hemingways.
And no more Otts...
Showing the painting and how that influenced Hemingway was very interesting! The part about him being problematic seemed petty. Everyone can point out flaws in other people because we all have them. No matter someone’s politics or world views or societal views, you have to respect someone who goes out and puts it all out on the line and lives. I fell like modern culture is too quick to judge others. It feels like we are trying to make it seem like we are superior humans. Lacks respect.
Hemingway was a free man of liever fully to his potentials . Hé lived a life most people would like to have but few have enough courage bring into partice
We are now programmed to be mediocre.
Hemingway was a great man. He was the original anti fascist. The US gov wanted Hem to publicly denounce Castro, and he would not comply. Not only was he a creative artist, but he had more character than most Americans of today.
¡Viva la República Española!
And Castro stole Hemingway's house in Havana and they still have it today.
We need Hemingway today.
"He enlisted in the Italian Ambulance Corps..." Actually, Hemingway enlisted with the American Red Cross Ambulance Service who helped out in Italy.
Yup. When you start a presentation with several slanders - and then get a material fact wrong - it says much about the presentation.
There is always this contrived speaking style with all TED Talks stuff. They must tutor them in how to act and speak unnatural and boring. I'd rather the guy just stand at a podium and act nervous. At least it would seem authentic. Authentic is always more interesting.
Intersting and enlightening; but, I'm PRETTTTY sure this guy is on valium.
That's what accepting this gender ideaology nonsense will do to you. He basically lives his entire academic life apologising for his skin colour and debasing himself. That's gonna do something bad to you psycologically.
The lecturer was goofy.
No comments on that microphone?
When I think of the characters Hemingway portrayed I think of people who served in the military or sacrificed in some way. I also think of the detail that went into his writing and how when I read his writing I am transported to the times he wrote about, such as the period of WW 1 and what that must have been like. I myself was a competitive swimmer in high school and college and a certified scuba diver. Once I was diving in the Caribbean and I was swimming past an Atlantic barracuda and those are deadly. Somehow I passed without being bitten and was amazed by the powerful beauty of the animal, but those experiences remind me of the writing of Hemingway: dangerous, awkward, or dubious. If he had been a family member, he would have been a valued uncle if I had one such as him. A little crazy, almost untouchable, but always interesting. 😊
pretty tough critique from a professor. Those who can, do. Those who can't teach.
I couldn’t help but think while watching that those who have little to say speak painfully slow.
Those who can't do either become critics
He proves it. Boring lecture on a great writer.
I can write too much on this subject (including his mistakes - themselves minimal), but I'm glad to see this subject on a TED.
I used to used to think TED talks were enlightening, Hemingway was one of the premier writers of the 20th century. This knob is one of the premier posers of left wing, politicaly correct academia.
Man’s Man !
Ge has been gone for a lone time 1961
Yet he is very relevant 😊
ugh, the pandering to this era.
Excellent comparison btw Cezanne's new technique and Hemingway's conciseness and realism .
Wow, so disappointing to see a "professor" judging a master of 20th Century writing by the liberal politics of today. What a shame!
Stephen Barnes yep. I saw it coming a mile away. All these sissy left wing lit professors despise Hemingway.
Philip I'm sorry I thought he was admiring him?
EXACTLY.
You may want to praise Joan Didion in '98 for a meaning full breakdown of his first paragraph. Foot noting should be a virtue. Good will using chocolate should be applauded in all circumstances.
There will never be another Hemingway.
Professors... those who can’t do
My dad always said it the other way, “those who can’t do, teach.”
Let's not Forget what Ted talks is about
Hemingway's weak willed father committed suicide because of his overbearing, wacko wife. His domineering mother caused irreparable damage in his early childhood . She tried to turn him into a girl, made him wear girls clothes even calling him and his sister my girls. What happens to a child in their formative years they never get over.
It's amazing how all these people who write bad things about Hemingway's masculinity leave out his mother's corrosive, lifelong influence over him. How many sons are ruined by their domineering, selfish mothers?
I'm sorry twenty-first-century liberal professor but Hemingway wasn't issuing Identity or gender statements in his writings. He was just writing. He was just being who he was. Even loaded with basic human flaws, someone like him would be so refreshing today. The world is full of sissies and snowflakes.
You talk about a manufactured image and you never knew the man, weren't even born. Yet you are so sure of his intentions and accentuate his perceived faults. But you are infatuated. Sad, dude.
Wish I could have been there for this lecture
Sometimes when reading Hemingway I will stop and exclaim, "oh, damn you anyway", because the writing is so beautiful that I almost can't stand it. Then I'll read it again.
Wow. The comparison to Cezanne. Amazing. Now I'll never look at Hemingway's writing quite the same again.
This lecturer demonstrates everything wront with professors. He ignores every great contribution Hemmingway made to literature, and instead focuses on ideological nonsense.
Don't send your kids to college.
There is no wonder the students of today are so confused.
You can learn a lot from people. Hemingway was a man of his times.
this guy is so determined to make hemmingway look bad, he forgot that he actually wrote some good books.
the presentation gets better in the second half and he says some insightful things, but this guy is so ashamed to be a male (what he calls "regressive masculinity") that he projects his self-loathing onto Hemingway. This is a sin. This is trendy scholarship. He should humbly get some balls and recognize that life is not a Maharishi pipe dream. Hemingway was a reflection of his times -- writing his greatest works in between two world wars.
It's a disingenuous representation for sure. He chooses to highlight his alcoholism while ignoring the very likely fact that much if it was caused by PTSD and that his suicide very well could be attributed to his wife forcing him to go through electroshock therapy after his accident and his inability to think clearly and write later in life
"Great men have great faults." I judge Hemingway strictly on the basis of his art, an art that took modern American literature in a new direction. He was imitated but not duplicated by an entire generation of writers. Today, Hemingway would be diagnosed as manic/depressive, bipolar, a family trait: no less than five Hemingway's committed suicide. He was as pure a writer as they come. He had a specific philosophy about writing that he practiced until the day he took his own life. Hemingway's writing style reflected his physical ethic: short, clear sentences, devoid of the cluttering influence of subordinate clauses. Each sentence flowed into the next sentence to describe action as only he could experience and describe it.
The comparison to Cezanne is instrumental. Cezanne was the father of modern art just as Hemingway was the father of modern American literature. Cezanne's little cubes (the forerunner to Cubism) are analogous to Hemingway's compact sentences that left things unsaid, (read "Hills Like White Elephants"). The reader sensed the meaning of the story without it being overtly stated. Like an iceberg, where the bulk of its mass is under water, Hemingway's style gave you the tip of the iceberg, while simultaneously conveying meaning without actually stating it. Gabriel Garcia Marquez (One Hundred Years of Solitude), a South American writer who is credited with bringing literary modernism to the fore, stated that he learned more about writing after reading Hemingway, than any other writer before or since.
Such nonsense.
Contrived drivel.
The speaker never makes the point of his speech unless the listener accepts the precept that words are like paint. If that was this professor's goal it was a poorly stated one in my opinion. For me the lesson of any of Hemingway's stories is the survival of the human spirit over the tragic events that occur in each of our lives. His final lesson taught when he could not bear the vicissitudes of life that brought old age.
everyones saying he's so boring. I had a camp and listened to him talk for like 3 hours
Academia cuddles crtiics - those who can't teach - those who can do - i.e. live and if so inclined write.
Yes this ted talk is So Uglyfor literature So Beautiful
Manufactured? I am not sure why this Mark Ott is considered to be a master of the topic. He should bin this thesis and start again.
Bukowsi said "Don't be a boring writer, the libraries of the world have yawned themselves to sleep over your kind. This guy must have bored thousands of students to near death.
This speaker is horrible. Trashing a man that he is making money off of. Often times, the most brilliant artists are also the most troubled individuals. It is just a part of the human condition. You can teach people using negative examples without judge mental tones. Perhaps then society can move forward and learn from genuine people instead of wallowing in misery, and creating a narrative that suits the selling of your latest lecture or ebook
It's difficult to study the minimalist style in France. With all the research in English and reading multiple genre, I started to understand how this particular style work.
For amusement, I rewrite original text in Minimalist form and understanding its impact. Each element is classed as Description, Thought, Action or Dialogue but I realize they are more like Exposition, Comment-like (alias 4th wall breaking) and Questions. Thoses are the elements we should remove, along with Thought. Characters psychology are expressed throught Actions and Dialogues.
We should keep in mind that Ernest was a journalist 1:32 which is my least favourite job because they tend to modify the narrative to creates superficial emotions but this isn't the case with Ernest. By describing only the surface, it allows the reader to feel emotionally invested with a neutral narrative. This isn't like popular genre which characters are selling point thanks to deformation.
I learned that the smallest, the most banal thing, should not be avoided. And also treating words as tool of description, not decorative.
2:38 Award can be painful. Really painful. Psychologically painful.
7:48 This is fascinating! Cezanne also treats technic as tool of expression!
Despite the monotone ... I actually became more absorbed coming to the end and sadly wanted to hear more ... how ironic😔
Hemingway had hemochromatosis which lead to his suicide along with several severe head injuries which can make one depressed and suicidal. See the book The Not So Old Man and the Sea for proofs and why the author thinks he was murdered.
Bro, drink a cup of coffee before you do a ted talk.
This is why i love TH-cam. There's 3000 videos better than this one done by guys working minimum wage jobs
This guy is too entrenched in (post) modern orthodoxies that he has learned from goofy women and is using them to pass judgement on a man like Hemingway. Be honest sir, forget what you have been taught and accept what you feel
One could also deconstruct this lecture to bits until it is unrecognizable from what was actually delivered.
The first five adjectives brought tears to my eyes.
You can't remove the context of the times and use modern labels to define a master of his craft and time , and time after . Attempting to improve your relevance by deconstruction of others is normal - sure you can deconstruct another's life , but be fair and accurate and include context , don't mislead . Toxic masculinity was embedded in America culture long before Hemingway - media was/is/always has been utilized to keep that game going ,because male dominance ran the world ,at a time , that created the men of those times , and the submissive culture that was lived in , tolerated by, the young , woman, people of color , the poor and homosexuals . We have evolved ,Hemingway through his literature helped us with his seeds , he did tremendous good and was just a person of his times , and experienced traumas .
Young kids these days will never understand what it is to be a man.
It is over kids, your role model now is Justin Trudeau!
Only a narcissist would give a lecture in which he labels someone else a narcissist for not adopting the speakers own value system.
Wow, I feel like I'm back in Catholic Church in the 3rd grade, complete with the echo. Better not doze off because if the jesuit notices he will come and cuff you around the head. How exciting.
i bet this guy is the life of parties
Thanks for the arabic subtitle
He was a man, with his faults. Like all of us. But very few people have the gifts he had. I could give a better lecture on Hemingway than this person is doing. And I do. To myself.
A cheap man taking cheap shots. He thinks TEDx Talks are about cheap thrills. No. Never have I heard a talk that worships entertainment and shock value as much as this. By the time he mentions the "interconnectedness of nature", I just wanted to throw up.
I agree with the previous person
Professors.....those who can’t do
So much toxic masculinity in these comments.
If you have experience with war, he is the one to read.
The political and gendar correct stuf not so relevant. But the cezanne art and the way hemmingway painted with his words very interesting. Would like to go and read a farewell to arms now.
Manufactured? So you've done no actual research into his life. This man was a doer. He went out and did stuff, manly stuff that required hard work and grit. Much more than can be said for you I'm sure.
Maybe a couple tequila shots would of made the man on the stage warm and fuzzy
Beautifull talk! Thank you
Its my opinion if a write loves God and hates mankind he is probably worth listening to. Sometimes contempt can be a form of hidden love. However I don't think I am talking about Hemingway but there are many writers that are misunderstood.
Hunting? Married 4 times? Bull fights? A confirmed narcissist if not psychopath. 😅
Better if you change the speed of playback to 1.5 or 1.75 - Dr Ott speaks way too slow. Sleepy, slow.
Indeed, a terrible speaker, right? Falls into one of the classic pitfalls of speaking, right? That of turning a statement into a non existent test or challenge of some kind issued to the listener.
I'd hate to be in any of his classes, right?
Does anyone know that joke? Why did Hemmingway cross the road? - To die in the rain alone.. - Funny joke in my opinion
Such an interesting person spoken about by such a bland guy.
Should have called it so fascinating, so boring.
"Manufactered image"? Seriously? I'm not a literary scholar or a Hemimgway scholar, but seriously? I hope people aren't getting their only information/opinions about Hemingway from this guy.
Worst ted talk of all time
Why compare it with Cezanne? It seems just so badly interpreted: Why do it then?
This guy makes me sick
where is your work? you!
日本語の訳がほしいです
More famous than, I don't know, Melville? James Fenimore Cooper? Dom DeLillo? Short Stories, I don't know, maybe Poe?
Your bias is not flattering...
I thought he was talking about the Kennedy’s or the Clintons at first.
This is terrible. I have spent a great deal of time trying to figure out 1/8 of the iceberg of Hemingway and Hemingway is too big an Iceberg and I can't say it's possible. This man is a pedantic and really does come across as lacking in masculinity and attempting to compensate through a overly academic, postmodernist critical theory, etc etc etc absurd theory about Cezanne. He's like a child trying to get another piece of the giving tree when the very stump has been burned out.
If you cant see the short brush strokes in the read piece go study poetry.
...right?...
Soyboy reeeeeeeeeeeeee
Get over your gender hang ups. “manufactured masculinity.”
Some men live large - then and now.