If Norris and Chabot can stay healthy, and Ulmark can handle 60 games, i think the sens are the team to sneak into the playoffs. Giroux, Perron and Amadio are good vets to surround the core. The sens problem is they don't have the depth to cope with the loss of any of their best players, though with Pinto available for the full year, their forward group might have the depth needed if there's any injuries. That can not be said about their D. If Sanderson or Chabot miss many games, they will be toast.
Florida, Boston, Toronto [I could see a swap in 2 and 3, Tampa, Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa , Montreal is my take. I can see 5 teams from the Atlantic moving on with NYR,NJ,and Car. I think it will come down to the wire with Buffalo, Washington and the NYI for the last wild card spot. I gotta agree with the guys that 5,6,7, and even 8 could easily swap around though.
SY has at least 3 yr leash. team is stacked with prospects forwards, Defense and goalie. 3 players Sy has drafted have made the team so far and 2 of them are stars alrdy and expect edvinsson to break out this yr.
🤣🤣🤣 3 more years? Detroit hasn't made the playoffs since 2016, so they have been rebuilding longer than the sens. They should have already had some great young talent when they hired Yzerman. SY has been there 5 years, and he deserves another 3 year leash? Detroit hasn't had much luck in the draft lottery, so he's done a good job considering that, but they also should be farther along in their rebuild if he's the genius people make him out to be. If the wings don't make the playoffs next year, he should be a candidate to be fired, however I think they will make it if they address their goaltending.
@@scottmiller8617 No , Wings started their rebuild with Yzerman. Holland screwed the team over before he left. We are still paying Abdelkader. Read my post above for details.
Deja vu. I remember everyone picking the Wings to be behind Ott and Buf last year as well. At least Hunter gets it. Edvinsson is going to be really good. Interesting that both of you didn't talk about him. Lucas is going to be huge this year. Slightly better D and hopefully some better goaltending will see Wings be similar to last year. Not the end of the world if we barely miss the playoffs again. SY has "no long-term plan" because all his signings were short term. Checks notes: Seider and Raymond sign big contracts within last two weeks. Kasper and Danielson both have great years, looking like very good 3rd/2nd line centers at minimum. Mazur looking great on wing. ASP currently tearing up the SHL. Cossa very solid in net with Augustine looking promising. All the bad contracts are coming off the books soon. Wings have 19 million in cap space for the next summer when big UFAs will be available. Did you mean "short-term plan?" Unlike the Habs, Sabers, and Sens, the Wings have received only one top 5 pick, moved down in more drafts than any other team, and had NO decent prospects in the pipeline (sans maybe Veleno/Burgers) before 2019. Ken Holland and his crew did horribly in nearly every draft after Larkin: top picks of E. Svechnikov, Cholowski, Rasmussen (like him, but not over Suzuki or Necas), and Zadina (Q. Hughes was right there!!!!). Only one player in 4 1st round tries were NHL caliber (2 in 5 if you count Veleno as well). There was nothing behind that either (save Burgers and Hronek). Holland's best forward in those 4 years is a 3rd line winger (Hronek is pretty good). SY is already 3 for 3 with 2 top-4 D and a top line winger (2 of which are budding stars). In that time, Buffalo has traded away more top picks than we've seen. In the past 10 years, Buffalo has had 4 top 2 picks (Rienhart, Eichel, Dahlin, Powers). They have had 3 different GMs and haven't seen the post-season since 2011. Ottawa isn't much better despite having 3 top 5 picks (Tkachuk, Stutzle, Sanderson) despite Dorian having 6 years. (Steve has had 5). Hell, they started their rebuild with some good players in their system: Karlsson (age 25) , Zibenejad (22), and Mark Stone (23). Best player on the Wings after Larkin when SY took over...Bertuzzi and Mantha. Most fans of the Wings are giving SY time because we know where we were and can see where we are going. This year ain't the make-or-break. Next year expectations are higher.
Sens would have finished higher than the wings if they didn't have a crazy amount of injuries. I'd say the sens and Sabres are 2 or 3 years ahead of the wings for their rebuilds. The wings will start making noise in 3 or 4 more years.
i think a lot outsiders get critical and confused by the amont of stop gaps/ insulating vets SY signs and the high dollars that were paid out to some mediocre players. but what they fail to see is the sucess of the rebuild lives or dies on the success of drafted players and a shytty ufa signing doesnt matter much compared to 1) drafting the right players n 2) give them an optimal environment to develope in. 3) building team 1st cultute ppl saying the the yzerplan has failed dont see the yzerplan hasnt arrived yet.
Sabres at 8 is insane... calling Lindy Ruff a terrible hockey coach is also insane
Does sabres miss the play-offs? Thanks
@@wolfy_conservative911 we'll see. I think no
If Norris and Chabot can stay healthy, and Ulmark can handle 60 games, i think the sens are the team to sneak into the playoffs. Giroux, Perron and Amadio are good vets to surround the core. The sens problem is they don't have the depth to cope with the loss of any of their best players, though with Pinto available for the full year, their forward group might have the depth needed if there's any injuries. That can not be said about their D. If Sanderson or Chabot miss many games, they will be toast.
I don't think Hunter realizes just how badly the lack of goaltending sunk the Sens season last year
Florida, Boston, Toronto [I could see a swap in 2 and 3, Tampa, Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa , Montreal is my take. I can see 5 teams from the Atlantic moving on with NYR,NJ,and Car. I think it will come down to the wire with Buffalo, Washington and the NYI for the last wild card spot. I gotta agree with the guys that 5,6,7, and even 8 could easily swap around though.
SY has at least 3 yr leash. team is stacked with prospects forwards, Defense and goalie. 3 players Sy has drafted have made the team so far and 2 of them are stars alrdy and expect edvinsson to break out this yr.
🤣🤣🤣 3 more years? Detroit hasn't made the playoffs since 2016, so they have been rebuilding longer than the sens. They should have already had some great young talent when they hired Yzerman. SY has been there 5 years, and he deserves another 3 year leash? Detroit hasn't had much luck in the draft lottery, so he's done a good job considering that, but they also should be farther along in their rebuild if he's the genius people make him out to be. If the wings don't make the playoffs next year, he should be a candidate to be fired, however I think they will make it if they address their goaltending.
@@scottmiller8617 No , Wings started their rebuild with Yzerman. Holland screwed the team over before he left. We are still paying Abdelkader. Read my post above for details.
@@scottmiller8617 yes there is no way in hell Sy getting fired anytime soon, at least 3 years
Deja vu. I remember everyone picking the Wings to be behind Ott and Buf last year as well. At least Hunter gets it.
Edvinsson is going to be really good. Interesting that both of you didn't talk about him. Lucas is going to be huge this year. Slightly better D and hopefully some better goaltending will see Wings be similar to last year. Not the end of the world if we barely miss the playoffs again.
SY has "no long-term plan" because all his signings were short term. Checks notes: Seider and Raymond sign big contracts within last two weeks. Kasper and Danielson both have great years, looking like very good 3rd/2nd line centers at minimum. Mazur looking great on wing. ASP currently tearing up the SHL. Cossa very solid in net with Augustine looking promising. All the bad contracts are coming off the books soon. Wings have 19 million in cap space for the next summer when big UFAs will be available.
Did you mean "short-term plan?"
Unlike the Habs, Sabers, and Sens, the Wings have received only one top 5 pick, moved down in more drafts than any other team, and had NO decent prospects in the pipeline (sans maybe Veleno/Burgers) before 2019. Ken Holland and his crew did horribly in nearly every draft after Larkin: top picks of E. Svechnikov, Cholowski, Rasmussen (like him, but not over Suzuki or Necas), and Zadina (Q. Hughes was right there!!!!). Only one player in 4 1st round tries were NHL caliber (2 in 5 if you count Veleno as well). There was nothing behind that either (save Burgers and Hronek). Holland's best forward in those 4 years is a 3rd line winger (Hronek is pretty good). SY is already 3 for 3 with 2 top-4 D and a top line winger (2 of which are budding stars).
In that time, Buffalo has traded away more top picks than we've seen. In the past 10 years, Buffalo has had 4 top 2 picks (Rienhart, Eichel, Dahlin, Powers). They have had 3 different GMs and haven't seen the post-season since 2011.
Ottawa isn't much better despite having 3 top 5 picks (Tkachuk, Stutzle, Sanderson) despite Dorian having 6 years. (Steve has had 5). Hell, they started their rebuild with some good players in their system: Karlsson (age 25) , Zibenejad (22), and Mark Stone (23). Best player on the Wings after Larkin when SY took over...Bertuzzi and Mantha.
Most fans of the Wings are giving SY time because we know where we were and can see where we are going. This year ain't the make-or-break. Next year expectations are higher.
Sens would have finished higher than the wings if they didn't have a crazy amount of injuries. I'd say the sens and Sabres are 2 or 3 years ahead of the wings for their rebuilds. The wings will start making noise in 3 or 4 more years.
@@dannik9932 Sabres, Reinhart, Power*
@@codyge18 So glad we got people like you around to notice the truly important parts of the arguments made.
@@scottmiller8617 I don't disagree. If I were an Ott fan, I'd be livid if they weren't in or near the playoffs this year.
@@dannik9932 your arguments invalid if you cant spell the team name or dont know the players
hunter dont know puck lol. "Ruffs a bad coach" but is 5th all time lol. make it make sense.
i think a lot outsiders get critical and confused by the amont of stop gaps/ insulating vets SY signs and the high dollars that were paid out to some mediocre players.
but what they fail to see is the sucess of the rebuild lives or dies on the success of drafted players and a shytty ufa signing doesnt matter much compared to 1) drafting the right players n 2) give them an optimal environment to develope in. 3) building team 1st cultute
ppl saying the the yzerplan has failed dont see the yzerplan hasnt arrived yet.
No shot MTL finishes anywhere but #8 (sorry Habs fans)
As a sens fan were not #7
but you are
LGRW
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