Ride NYC- Atlantic City via NJT services. Highlights. Speed, trumpets, sick horns, casinos. 9/1/22
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- It was a beautiful day and I felt like taking a ride to the nearest boardwalk that I wanted to walk on All New Jersey transit down for the bargain basement price of $11.65 senior discount. 
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My father used to tell me of the two competing rail line from Philly to AC. They both advertised less than an hour between the cities. Crossing south Jersey they were known to go over 100mph regularly. There apparently was one pair of trains per day which raced eastbound. This was in the 1920s, the age of steam. What a sight that must have been!
By the way, also commuter train service into Ocean City, swinging south at Winslow Junction I believe. One can trace the Blue Comet route driving through the Pine Barrens with the help of an old map, still finding places where the right of way is still quite visible.
Thank you, living in Newark I now know how to get to Atlantic City without taking a bus or my car !! Back in the 1990’s I use to take Amtrack to Boston !
There used to be a direct service known as the ACES, express between NYC and AC. NYC-Newark-AC. But it stopped operation in 2011
I rode the ACES once! It had an AEM-7 on one end and a diesel on the other. Operation was thus:
NYP to (almost) Philly - crew in AEM, motive power from AEM. Diesel prime mover was shut down for this leg.
Almost Philly to AC - crew in diesel, motive power from diesel.
AC to almost Philly - Crew in AEM, motive power from diesel.
Almost Philly to NYP - Crew in diesel, motive power frm AEM. I don't know if the diesel prime mover was shut down or not for this leg.
So they used all 4 possible combos of cabs and power. This was at least partially paid by the AC casinos to drum up business.
@@clarkpj1 njt alp45dp would be ideal for this route... They run a few of those in the north jersey coast line with electric power btwn Newark and NYC
Although I like trains a lot, the one thing that always draws me to your channel and your hour long videos is your commentary. You have a natural gift for storytelling. I really can’t stop appreciating the railroad history and personal stories (I really liked the one about your fathers drama with a yankee player) and I hope you continue spreading your knowledge and experiences to the world. I don’t know many people who can make me listen to anything, but you’re one of them.
Love the historical info that you give on your videos 👍🏾
I enjoy your commentary, always relevant and interesting .
Great video as usual. Always nice to see NEC and first time seeing the River Line…incredibly rich scenery.
Your rail videos are just awesome. Especially NJ Transit routes, Riverline, in South Jersey to Philadelphia. I live near Newark Penn Station. As well as LIRR,. I myself enjoy railfanning. You are indeed the best on the rails. Best wishes.
This was a great trip! Love the various modes! Really shows almost all aspects of NJ (urban/suburban/rural).
Wow Tim I can't believe I didn't see this one just found it I did see the one from Atlantic City into Philadelphia Don't know how I missed this one. Love your videos buddy
Love your videos. Thank you for posting.
What a fine video. I appreciate your knowledge! I grew up in Newark and especially enjoyed the trip through Penn Station. Passing under the old CNJ tracks, you mentioned the Market Street station. I'm old enough to remember the CNJ terminal on Broad Street, from which it operated the old Newark and New York Railroad.
Very happy to see your coverage on the Atlantic City Line!
Love your videos. I used to live on Long Island and my dad used to be an engineer on the LIRR. I now live in South Jersey along the River Line.
Thanks for doing this, really enjoyed the ride! You're right, it's not the Blue Comet, but at least you can still get down there by train. I wish they could connect all those Jersey shore towns again by rail. Some of the abandoned ROW still exists all the way down to Cape May. I know the old Wildwood Oak Ave train station is now a NJT bus terminal. Took that bus back to Manhattan many times!
Amazing catches and rides love it keep up the great work
great video. I grew up in Philadelphia and remeber the Penn/Reading trains when I was a child. We spent many summers down rhere before the casinos. It was a teriffic resort.
Great trip using various modes of travel. I've ridden these trains myself but to/from different points. And the senior discount is available.
Thanks Tim😀😀💚
I really enjoy riding NJ transit trains . My number 1 favorite train in this video is the Atlantic City Line from Philadelphia to Atlantic City. I will be more than happy to ride this train any day of the week. I wish I could go ride it. I am one of the biggest fans of NJ transit. I highly recommend this train for any one who has not been on it yet. The people who ride this train are very nice and amazing and this train has some of the greatest conductors in the world. So please go ride NJ transit from Philadelphia to Atlantic City. I hope to see you there.
Many thanks for this. This was the next-best thing to doing it myself. Well edited, excellent comment and informative.
Just found your channel. Great videography and fantastic narration!
Great video, I used to live in Elwood, NJ from Saturday, December 14,1963 to Saturday, June 21,1969. I used to watch various PRSL trains on the Atlantic City line many times. Walked on the Atlantic City Boardwalk many times as well. I was 10 when I had moved to Elwood, NJ from Ridley Park, PA. My late father worked for Boeing in Ridley Township. I’m familiar with Hammonton & Egg Harbor City. I travel by train on Amtrak when I’m in the San Diego area to & from Los Angeles & Oxnard, CA when I’m home in the San Diego area, I also ride the San Diego trolley as well. Most of my long distance travel is by Amtrak. Where I live at in Arizona I have to drive, but if there were reliable A,track service & high speed train service like what Japan has, I would be riding it a lot out to San Diego, Los Angeles.
Nice trip! I would love Amtrak to operate in this route to Atlantic City like back in the 90s with their f40s. Anyways nice to hear 6050 with its K5LLA horn. It sure has a unique and good sounding horn!
At 46:00 you mention Tacony-Palmyra bridge. That is correct. Commodore Barry bridge connects NJ to PA further south of Philadelphia. Thanks for sharing your amazing knowledge of railroads in this region!
True - Commodore Barry carries US 322 - Tacony-Palmyra carries dual-state 90 (PA/NJ) - The first picks up US 40 and the two parallel the ACX into Atlantic City. US 40 (when solo) is the Warren Harding Highway and has Wawas and Valeros along its length - I know as that is my usual route through the "Veggie Garden" State - in addition to the Wawas and Valeros there are lots of veggie stands along US 40 as well (starting at Labor Day until the first frost)
@@PGHammer21A tacony Palmyra is dual state 73 Betsy Ross is 90. Del memorial bridge has us-40 & i295 begins there Along with the NJ turnpike
Nice to see you back railfaning a diesel njt line
I wish they'd extend the North Jersey Coast Line from Point Pleasant the rest of the way down the coast to AC and Cape May.
If they do they better go inland
Nice ride. Will have to try this from New York City
Wow! it's finally great to see all the construction barges and equipment at the Portal bridge. It's about time.
Burlington was a pleasant surprise especially when you compare it to the sprawling suburban behemoths of Central and Northern NJ.
Thank you for all the details enroute. Have not been to AC since Amtrak stopped service years ago.
Train service between NYC and AC needs to be restored. The buses that travel between NYC and AC are very unreliable, especially Greyhound and Academy. There needs to be more mass transit options to travel between NYC and AC. Driving is not for everybody.
You’re right about that anemic horn!
Can't believe all the videos I've watched that you've done and this is the only one of the River line? Really a cool little trip My girlfriend grew up in Bristol Croydon area I've seen that bridge from the northeast corridor she couldn't remember what it was but then when you saw it along the River line she remembered it and the Tacony and of course the bridge that goes in to Philadelphia on PATCO she used to ride that train going to work from haddonfield worked at the PFSF building when it was offices
I also like that town of Burlington reminded me of Ashland Virginia I watch VRF a lot. Keep up the great content Tim I enjoy it very much.
Such a nice ride! I’ve been wanting to do this.
You should do this trip more often really neat little residential areas in that part of New Jersey
Nice video.I live in Long Branch & This the way I want to visit the rest by video.Too much congestion.
Very cool vid! Grew up in AC 1957 to 1983.
Using the suction cups makes a great video plus easy on your arms
Nice video
This is a great video,
Great work, as always. Good too see you back “on the air.” Your iPhone holder helps you and is more stable but it’s microphonic in that it’s picking up all of the background noise and vibrations from the rails. Certainly makes it “live” but it’s a bit noisy in comparison to your earlier videos.
It’s good for my tired muscles and that alone is worth it.
You’re correct! It is cheaper (and faster) for me to take an Uber directly to my terminal versus taking NJT to the EWR airport station (and then having to catch that airport tram to a terminal).
I travel to Atlantic City all the time. There are approx. 2 ways to travel besides driving your own car, Taking the bus or train. There are 2 ways by rail to head to Atlantic City. I take the Amtrak to Philadelphia 30th Street Station out of Metro Park Station/Woodbridge, NJ. It's a bit costly but it's a nice ride to Philly. Sometimes depending on when you leave you can catch a good deal. All trains start out of NYC regardless. When arriving in Philadelphia you can then catch the NJ Transit Atlantic City line to Atlantic City. It's approx. a 1 hr. 20 min. ride. The cost for the NJ Transit from Philly is $10.75 one way. They do have many departures to AC from Philly.
The Amtrak / Northeast Regional can cost on average about $40-$60 one way but sometimes a good deal will cost Appro. $25. The cheapest way is by local NJ Transit to Trenton. Then you have to transfer to the SEPTA line to Philly which takes approx. an hour. I am not sure of the cost of this leg. The SEPTA can actually take you to the Philadelphia International Airport as well. I prefer Atlantic City Airport but that's a different trip adventure.
The bus is also a good choice. I take it out of Rahay, NJ one way to AC (Panorama) that trip one way is $30 but you receive $30 if you are a casino card holder. It is cheaper to buy a ticket at the bus stop itself. I then take the NJ Train back to Philly then to Amtrak to Metro Park in Woodbridge, NJ. If you have Amtrak rewards account it does have its advantages. Even on a trip to AC. Amtrak will keep you advised of your train progress if it is late or on time. They can also give you the option to bid for a higher-class seat as well. Enjoy your next trip.
U.S. Hwy 30 in New Jersey is also known as the White Horse Pike
39:26 it's probably unusual because that obviously is a heavy rail Graham White E Bell, the other LRVs, like Siemens, have their own synth bell
My dad worked for Pennsylvania Redding seashore lines Years ago then it went to Conrail but he went from Cape may all way to Pennsylvania
The Old Jersey Central line that you went over or went under came out of the broad Street station
Pine barrens of SO. Jersey.
The Tacony-Palmyra Bridge is NOT the Commodore Barry; that bridge connects Chester, PA with Bridgeport, NJ, south of PHilly.
I found that out!!
I think it was1989 my Mother bought tickets on the 2nd , but first revenue train from 30th Station to AC and back. Of course I wa suppose to be in school, but my Mom knew I didn't want to miss out on the revenue service for Amtrak. I belive that I was interview by Local ABC morning new show AM PHILADELHIA.
The train aficionado character in the Sopranos was Bobby Baccala
Couldn’t think of his name
nice
Just some info on the voltage for the Arrow III's, they can change voltage, its just the drivers would dangerously have to go to the pantagraph and flip a switch to change voltage!
Yes they can but it’s an involved and time consuming process. The locomotives can just do it with the flick of a switch.
@@3985uprr Yeah, also I heard you mention Comet Fours, they got rebuilt to Comet IIM's a while ago.
There should be a direct line from NYC and Newark to Atlantic City. I understand there once was? This is too convoluted for a non train buff. Its kind of crazy when you think about it. You have to take 3 trains to get to A.C. ?? Greyhound for me. Enjoyed your trip anyway.
Jersey Ave is such a weird set up. I sometimes go there to take photos because it's low platform and it's a nice angle to view high speed trains. But to return northbound, you have to pretty much have to continue south to Trenton, and then come back north. I've never seen anyone board a northbound train (is there even one?) from that odd little curving spur on the northwest side of the line by the parking lot.
riverside is my home town and the watch case was a mall actually
Nice
Do the freight trains on the Northeast Corridor run mainly at night? I think that the passenger trains on the corridor are mainly day trains. I'd like to ride the River Line; I understand there are plans to electrify it. I notice the operator used his bell, in lieu of the "trumpet", while going thru Burlington.
Aces was pretty cool nyc to ac
Lucas was named for the Lucas paint company
I have thought of taking this route, but connections are poor. Not like trains in Japan.
46:00 the Commodore Barry Bridge is 322 off of 95 much further south and you are
RRF, among your other talents you have perfect relative pitch.
Thanks to the River Line trumpets.
Hey RRHG what kind of camera do you use
I always take greyhound to go to ac, even though I live in jersey, I go to Manhattan to take the bus, I think is faster and easier
Burlington Bristol Bridge
circa 7:20 Where exactly was to former Manhattan Transfer station (for steam to electric trains transfer)? By the way, I've never seen good drawings, maps, photos or much of anything about it. It's as if it had totally left the face of the earth without record. Aarre Peltomaa of Mississauga, Ontario
$11.65, cheaper than the regular rate Air Train from Newark Airport to NYP and that only takes
Is this an express train to Trenton? or not stopping at some stations near Newark?
Local pretty much except no Elizabeth or Linden
50:08 that is CSAO CA-07. They go from Pavonia to Philadelphia daily.
Yes somebody told me it was a local
@@3985uprr Another very cool railroad that operates in between Winslow Junction & Pleasantville that take the Atlantic City Rail Line is SRNJ (Southern Railroad of New Jersey). They only operate “as needed” usually once or twice each week. They would usually run Tuesday’s and sometimes Thursdays but all depends on when Conrail brings them Centerbeams and if it is in demand for Pleasantville. Next time you are down here… I suggest catching SRNJ. SRNJ uses ex- CN M420W’s which are ALCO’s. They smoke up a lot and makes the photos look cooler!
@@atlanticrailproductions4206 I caught them today laying on the industrial track that runs btw ACE and Black Horse Pike in West AC. They were waiting for NJT to clear.
@@PM08203 nice!
B&O are now CSX
That’s just the name that sticks about that bridge
Didn’t know the Atlantic City line used alp-45’s.
Never mind, I thought the beginning of the video was at 30th street station
As it turned out I did have an ALP45 from Pennsauken into Atlantic City
ALPs that come down here aren't down too long as most of the crews don't like them.
I don’t understand why we routinely see them on trips that don’t need dual mode locomotives.
@@johnwireman2660 They do it all over the system. It’s a locomotive so they use it where needed. That was the only ALP I saw on the Atlantic City line that day and most of the time it wasn’t running
No. To be honest, he got lucky to travel on the ONLY day it was used. The next day, it north to MMC.
Did you ever got the chance to ride the service they had before that takes you from penn station to Atlantic City
That service was called ACES.
He talks about that 1:08:00-1:10:00 approximately
@@Touchybanana I heard it was expensive when it was in service
That ( and i know what the territory Is ) Is a Lot of transfers to do by train WHICH IS supposed to Be more NOT LESS convient......AND , transfers in SHit Hole STATION or stations CLOSE to or IN SHit holes
What station used to be at 25:55? It looks like there must have been something since there's a staircase descending to track level from the overpass.
I think South Brunswick
Great film Railman. Now a question for you. I live in Matawan and the NYLB(Jersey shore line) has terrible service into NYC. It takes over an hour to travel to NYC. The NYLB(PRR) use to make the journey in less than one hour. They did that journey without having to stop at Linden, Elizabeth, North Elizabeth. They stopped at Rahway to allow passengers to transfer to the PRR main line trains. Let the Main line NJT trains make those stops, not the Shore trains. The exception to the schedule is that commuter trains in the morning and evening do not make those stops, they are termed EXPRESS. As a result, I travel to the South Orange station from my home(half hour journey) and join transit which takes about 25 minutes into NYC. I will arrive in NYC before the train from Matawan. And the cost is half the fare from Matawan. Welcome any thoughts from other railfan viewers.
The shore line doesn’t have terrible service into the city. The rush hour and off peak times are close to NEC times. Pops used to work for transit and we would be in and out of the city all the time. The reason the shoreline makes those stops is to give people extra leeway if they miss the NEC and seeming the shore line comes up on the corridor at Rahway that wouldn’t be smart to blow pass that stop everytime
Sounds like the kiddie train.
there is a NJtransit rail that goes to AC?? what is this
Question, let's say you had a job in NYC but couldn't afford to live there but you also don't want to depend on a car either, what affordable commuter towns with access to the commuter rail would be recommended?
Too many to mention. I’ve heard that some places in New Jersey are cheaper than New York. A lot of people live in Hoboken because they say it’s cheaper than New York City and then hop on the path and get into Manhattan real fast
This would be a nice ride in Winter, that's if it runs in Winter,
It does
AC to NY? On rail? Since when ?
Great work as usual Mr. RR(HG). Knowing what a perfectionist you are I'm sure you'll welcome the correction, of sorts, to a statement you made at 45:55. You are correct when you point out the Tacony-Palmyra Bridge in Palmyra. The Commodore Barry Bridge is another bridge further down river connecting Gloucester County, NJ with Chester, Pa. 59:55 Robert "Bobby Bacala" Baccalieri Jr.
By the way, to make Amtrak service effective, first, it needs to be faster than driving, which it wasn't.Second, allow gambling in the train, say slots and 21. Third, allow a bar car. Fourth, make the service every two hours. Fifth, leave NYP, stop only Newark, Philly, AC. Best, of course, would be to rebuild the Blue Comet route!
If Amtrak was in the touristic trains business it would be great
@@TrainsPT When it serves AC, it is de facto in the tourist business! Other local trains are fine, but the AC themed expresses are a MUST!!
There used to be an Atlantic City express train with dedicated club style cars. The service was discontinued because there isn’t enough capacity in the tunnel between NY and NJ.
Not everyone has a car or wants to drive long distance
Why does the Atlantic city line run with the oldest NJT train fleet with mostly older comet II coaches, and old locomotives? Why don't they replace the comet II and IV coaches with the multi levels, and run exclusively comet Vs and ALP-45s on the Atlantic city line?
Not sure exactly. AC Line seems neglected on NJT. No complaints from me about that.
@@3985uprr I think they need to lengthen all the stations platforms to at least 300ft, and purchase Stadler flirt BMU trains (similar in design to the UK versions) and implement all doors boarding at all stations. It can cut down on trip time, as well as greenhouse gasses.
No Commodore Barry Bridge connects Chester Pa to Swedesboro NJ
Got them mixed up
@@3985uprr I grew up in Cherry Hill, N.J.
Is the train faster than the greyhound?
Depends on traffic. Summer traffic can be brutal where the train might be faster
@@3985uprr thx for the response! Will try the train next time
U rode the alp-45 unit to ac
Rode ahead of it you mean
Yes
4509 was pushing 6050
BUY AN EXTENSION STICK!
Window mounted item is better this way I don’t have to exert my muscles holding it up for so long
$11?! That's so cheap!
you should'nt have to spend almost 4 hrs to get from nyc to ac
I’m in no hurry. It beats summer driving down the Garden State Parkway
48:30 njt doesn't care about South Jersey that's why
Definitely misguided
Amen! Thanks for calling this out!
It was a “Duhhhhhhhhh” moment. It was like the Pennsylvania Turnpike not interchangeing with interstate 95 in Bucks County. Now it does.
@@3985uprr maybe a duh moment
this is scare, take cat to basement now put on a helmet