I spent like a day researching it when i first new about it a couple years ago. So, seeing this puzzle for the first time really made me happy. For once playing a ZE game I can say: "Yes! I know of this problem!" makes me feel smart ya know
@@donavonheim559 It's easiest to understand if you increase the number of doors to 100 or so. Once you pick a door, your chances of being right are 1/100, yeah? That means your chances of being correct by picking "every other door at once" are 99/100. This is true regardless of whether the other doors have been opened or not, or how many of them have been. The trick is essentially that the percentages don't actually change from the initial 1/100, even if we're inclined to think they go to 1/2. It's a bit counterintuitive!
the reason, why this is the case is because the lockers that are opened after your first decision aren't random. And that fact influences the odds of the remaining closed locker being the "winning" one.
saaame! for me, thinking of it on a larger scale didn't quite help, but thinking about 3 doors as a set of 2 doors and 1 door helped. That and knowing higher probability does not necessarily mean certainty
This was the puzzle room theme I easily stopped and took notice of. The others were great, but this one literally made me stop playing for a minute to enjoy how awesome it is, especially when those strings come in. One of my fave tracks of the whole game!
It was also present in VLR, and at a moment so very important. That music came pretty much as a relief given the tension present in the timeline it's featured in.
The original is meant to feel empty and hollow. You and Phi are the only two alive with all the facilities' knowledge at your fingers, and the original reinforces the foreboding given by having all the answers yet none of them at the same time
I know right? Most of the music is just "This is nice background music, it fits." Apart from the infirmary which was creepy yet still fitting. As soon as 1:35 Kicked in I was like, "Woah shit, this is awesome?!?" Like, I was in the middle of remembering something for a puzzle and I completely forgot it because I was taken aback at the music.
Actually, I think it's electronica music with a touch of new age for the string arrangements, if you like that, go listen to tangerine dream or mike oldfield, I'm sure you will find something interesting there.
To those saying the original mix sounds empty without the strings from this mix, I'd have to disagree.. The strings add life to this mix, but the bass is turned down significantly. In the original, the bass (and percussion) drive the music at the drop. But instead of pronounced strings, you have slow synth pads in the background, adding a sense of spaciousness to the mix. Comparing the two, it seems to me that this mix is more "human." There's more emotion, probably because of the strings. The original mix seems like it's lost its soul a bit--it's robotic. If you remember where the original mix was played, it's actually quite fitting. Now after reading the first sentence in this paragraph, I realize I kind of just contradicted myself.
I haven't played the game that this song is from. I got here from finding this song in a video essay and oh my gosh it is gorgeous! I've been listening to it while writing to set the mood. It's actually getting me a bit interested in the game!
@@ThatoneFelicia I've started playing the games since I wrote the initial comment! I'm still on the first game but I'm loving it so far~ Can't wait to see what you're referring to! c:
@@darkvioletcloud aw cool its not outright explained to you in the game but i hope you realise the weight of the puzzle room when you finish the room and realise why the song is so heavy
Track Name: Quondam Monitors (Remix of [VLR] Monitor) Team: C-Team Fragment: Monty Hall Room: Control Characters: Carlos, Junpei, and Akane Decision Game: CHOOSE A LOCKER
I just noticed… I think the title of this song is actually supposed to be "Quondam Monitors" with an "a". It's spelled incorrectly in the mini OST files, but correctly on the official Steam page's track list. I'm pretty sure the latter one is the correct spelling because "Quondom" with an "o" is not even a real word lol.
i need help here, haven't played the game came accross the audio as bg music in some video on TH-cam and the part at 1:35 that everyone keeps mentioning reminds me of something, some ost of some show or game or maybe classical music but it's just something that feels like should be very well known but i can't seem to figure it out so, does anyone know what that part is inspired by? or what it probably inspired? and song or music that has that same bit that starts at 1:35
I know this isn't what you're looking for, but this song is a remix of a previous song in the franchise called "Monitor" from Virtue's Last Reward. Maybe you could find some luck looking into that song?
![Zero Time Dilemma OST: BGM 39 ~Interminable Dilemma~ [CQD END 2/Payoff]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/B7-sK3icMSE/mqdefault.jpg)
I was so mad when I approached the Monty Hall decision with the right mindset but got screwed over by the 10% even after switching haha
It happened the same thing to me, it was pretty frustrating but fitting of the whole "bad luck and unfair" theme of the game
Yall get it. What a glorious game.
life is simply unfair, don't you think?
I spent a good 2 hours trying to comprehend Monty Hall after this room.
I spent like a day researching it when i first new about it a couple years ago.
So, seeing this puzzle for the first time really made me happy.
For once playing a ZE game I can say: "Yes! I know of this problem!"
makes me feel smart ya know
I still dont understand it
@@donavonheim559 It's easiest to understand if you increase the number of doors to 100 or so. Once you pick a door, your chances of being right are 1/100, yeah? That means your chances of being correct by picking "every other door at once" are 99/100. This is true regardless of whether the other doors have been opened or not, or how many of them have been.
The trick is essentially that the percentages don't actually change from the initial 1/100, even if we're inclined to think they go to 1/2. It's a bit counterintuitive!
the reason, why this is the case is because the lockers that are opened after your first decision aren't random. And that fact influences the odds of the remaining closed locker being the "winning" one.
saaame! for me, thinking of it on a larger scale didn't quite help, but thinking about 3 doors as a set of 2 doors and 1 door helped. That and knowing higher probability does not necessarily mean certainty
This was the puzzle room theme I easily stopped and took notice of. The others were great, but this one literally made me stop playing for a minute to enjoy how awesome it is, especially when those strings come in. One of my fave tracks of the whole game!
same
It was also present in VLR, and at a moment so very important. That music came pretty much as a relief given the tension present in the timeline it's featured in.
Rec room theme was pretty good too
This is the first room I picked as C team. Hearing the sadness in the string section was perfect for conveying Junpei and Akane's frayed relationship
*ahem*
Whirrrrrrrrr
Znuuuuuur
Vreeeeeeee
Znuuuuuur
Very accurate lyrics, thank you
Jadzia Podróżniczka hahaha
You forgot one thing...
*AHEM HEM HEM*
Dingdong!
[COMPLETED]
Oh my God xD thank you
Wow, this comment got almost 100 likes? I'm shocked, thank you xD Have a nice day! lol
Now the original just sounds empty without those strings. God damn, those strings.
1:36
The string section always reminds me of Trauma Center
@@ronniedickson6302 DOCTOR STILES
The original is meant to feel empty and hollow. You and Phi are the only two alive with all the facilities' knowledge at your fingers, and the original reinforces the foreboding given by having all the answers yet none of them at the same time
@@sacxoople4289 my brother in christ. this comment is 8 years old.
Final battle against the Covid intensifies.
We’re almost there!
This was my favorite puzzle room song, they're usually forgettable but I didn't mind getting stuck in this room.
I know right? Most of the music is just "This is nice background music, it fits." Apart from the infirmary which was creepy yet still fitting.
As soon as 1:35 Kicked in I was like, "Woah shit, this is awesome?!?" Like, I was in the middle of remembering something for a puzzle and I completely forgot it because I was taken aback at the music.
This one's my favorite too. Glad to see that it has other fans. : )
+Ginger Dwarf When it kicks in, it kicks in your teeth. The composer really understand ambience and atmosphere..
Exactly.
+Ginger Dwarf my experience was the opposite of yours, it actually helped me think further instinctually that I didn't notice it..
When this played I was like "When has a puzzle theme ever been a catchy trance tune?" :O
Actually, I think it's electronica music with a touch of new age for the string arrangements, if you like that, go listen to tangerine dream or mike oldfield, I'm sure you will find something interesting there.
when you here this in game and you're like "Do I have to play Sudoku AGAIN?"
Pretty sure Morphogenetic Sorrow is the sudoku theme
I honestly think that D-Team was the best team. Diana was a great addition to the already great Phi and Sigma
I'd think a better way of saying it is that Phi was a great addition for Sigma and Diana.
Bullet spoiler without context
It really was the best team. I liked D Team most, then C team, and Q team last.
I liked Q Team far more than the other two teams combined. D Team's in second place, though.
I loved all the teams, though admittedly Q’s has the least love coming from me. Eric is annoying as hell but Mira and Sean make up for it 10 fold imo
To those saying the original mix sounds empty without the strings from this mix, I'd have to disagree.. The strings add life to this mix, but the bass is turned down significantly. In the original, the bass (and percussion) drive the music at the drop. But instead of pronounced strings, you have slow synth pads in the background, adding a sense of spaciousness to the mix. Comparing the two, it seems to me that this mix is more "human." There's more emotion, probably because of the strings. The original mix seems like it's lost its soul a bit--it's robotic. If you remember where the original mix was played, it's actually quite fitting. Now after reading the first sentence in this paragraph, I realize I kind of just contradicted myself.
I haven't played the game that this song is from. I got here from finding this song in a video essay and oh my gosh it is gorgeous! I've been listening to it while writing to set the mood. It's actually getting me a bit interested in the game!
It’s the third game in an excellent series. Highly recommend!
it is beautfiully haunting for a reason in the second game i wont say cos spoilers though
@@ThatoneFelicia I've started playing the games since I wrote the initial comment! I'm still on the first game but I'm loving it so far~ Can't wait to see what you're referring to! c:
@@darkvioletcloud aw cool its not outright explained to you in the game but i hope you realise the weight of the puzzle room when you finish the room and realise why the song is so heavy
This is one of my favorite puzzle room themes. It was one of my favorites in VLR too!
this is my favorite song in the whole game
one of the only escape room songs that i just stopped playing and just vibed to. right at 1:35 i just went "Holy shit why does this sound so amazing"
It was like that for me for septenary game from 999
Im so glad i found this series! Its so underrated i wish they made at least one more to finish the story
This game was supossed to finish the story lol
Yeah we really need something so we dont have the main villain be either a snail or some unnamed religious fanatic
Maren Davis maybe a light novel?
6 brand new cars lost. All because of a goat.
I love both versions ❤
Track Name: Quondam Monitors (Remix of [VLR] Monitor)
Team: C-Team
Fragment: Monty Hall
Room: Control
Characters: Carlos, Junpei, and Akane
Decision Game: CHOOSE A LOCKER
You wonder why this track has a distinctly sadder feel to it then you get to the end of the puzzle...
I suppose she knows everything.
well, she IS the queen of random knowledge, after all
Definitely one of my favorite themes from the game!
Dat sexy violin
I was today years old when I realized this is just a remaster of the other puzzle room from VLR.
I love this track.
I love this
Best part 1:36
Couldn't find this song due to Control Room being nowhere in its title. whyyyyy ;___;
The original comment was so cringe that I had to edit this.
I just noticed… I think the title of this song is actually supposed to be "Quondam Monitors" with an "a". It's spelled incorrectly in the mini OST files, but correctly on the official Steam page's track list. I'm pretty sure the latter one is the correct spelling because "Quondom" with an "o" is not even a real word lol.
You're right. I never bothered researching it, but it is totally an odd oversight.
***** True that. I only discovered it myself because I had no clue what "quondom/quondam" meant lol.
I donno, doesn't seem that odd.
I doubt Zero would have condom monitors around...
"Donno" I see what you did there ...
The
Fucking
Wires
Tranquility, anyone?
Sounds like it could be a Corpse Party track.
indeed... Corpse Party... but IN SPACE ! and in THE FUTURE !
i still prefer the original, but this is a good remix
What’s the original?
@@eddyn1882 "Monitor" from VLR, playing in the security room.
boss ass song
i need help here, haven't played the game came accross the audio as bg music in some video on TH-cam and the part at 1:35 that everyone keeps mentioning reminds me of something, some ost of some show or game or maybe classical music but it's just something that feels like should be very well known but i can't seem to figure it out so, does anyone know what that part is inspired by? or what it probably inspired? and song or music that has that same bit that starts at 1:35
I know this isn't what you're looking for, but this song is a remix of a previous song in the franchise called "Monitor" from Virtue's Last Reward. Maybe you could find some luck looking into that song?
sound like it could be a soundtrack for who wants to be a millionaire or weakest link!
Does this song belong to any type of genre? The strings remind me of something, but I really don't recall what...
Just incidental music. It does also seem to have a trip hop vibe going for it.
Fragment: Monty Hall
Seamus Route