This is how i know the writer loves mythology, his portrayal of gods is in line with how the gods are in Greek myths. They can be just as benevolent as they can be petty. They can help you if it benefits them, or if they think messing with you might be entertaining they will do that even if it messed up another gods plans
I don't know if u guys remember this but back when Bell first encountered Aisha, he asked her why the Ishtar familia was going so far to get him (because Ishtar essentially started a war to capture Bell just so she could charm him and make Freya jealous) and Aisha provided an answer that summarizes "Divine love" from a Goddess. Aisha said "Don't blame me, blame the fact that you caught the eye of a Goddess" and it's so fitting for this season because all this happened when Freya first encountered Bell and from that moment on he had her attention
The worst part is that Bell is an orphan twice over. One of his motivations through out the series is wanting to build a family, and all the people he considers family just rejected him.
For those wondering? Yes, an approximate 5 months has lapsed since Season 1 (by the first Episode, Bell had been in Orario as an Adventurer for a month). Everyone is still at the exact age they are in the first time with them (Bell being 14, Lili being 15, Welf being 17 Mikoto and Haruhime being 16 etc.).
4:40 That’s amazing from Ryu right there: she quickly understood that she went a bit too far, and upon realizing her mistake she immediately apologized and even though Bell’s words sounded a bit like an “indirect rejection” she was able to maintain (at least apparently) her composure… That’s EXTREMELY mature from her, I don’t know how many people would have been able to do it so quickly and so sincerely, that right there my friends, THAT’S EXACTLY WHY SHE’S BEST GIRL😍❤️ P.S. That b*tch Freya could really learn a thing or two from her, but apparently all the time they spent together at the tavern wasn’t enough…🙄😒 (Don’t get mad at me, I know we needed an antagonist and Freya fits the description perfectly… Really, since season 1 I think pretty much everyone knew that, sooner or later, she would eventually become an “enemy”)
Cant blame her. First time she felt in love and he is her only chance for experiencing love ( since well, only bell and the 3 virgin goddesses are immune to her charm)
Freya did charm her familia as well, but released them after she finished charming Orario and securing Bell. They are now doing her will to act like Bell has been in the familia since the beginning.
Well Bell rejected Freyas "normal love" by rejecting her as Syr. As Freya said she was willing to give up her status as goddess just to have this normal love with Bell as Syr. Thats why the Freya familia was so torn, if she succedess as Syr the familia probably falls apart but at the same time they want to make their goddess happy Now Bell her "goddess love" treatment like you said. So looking back: - Freya charmed a monster to attack Bell at the monster festival, which she led him to as Syr - Freya gave him his Firebolt spell - Freya let Otarl train the minotaurus which Bell defeated with the firebolt - Freya as Syr gave Bell an item (mediallion) which had the effect to pretect someone from a fatal attack once, which allowed Bell to defeat Apollo familia - Freya did go to war and defeated Ishtar to protect Bell so she instigated some trials for him but at the same time saved him from trials that were beyond him and gave him the tools to clear her trials ...
Freya is in love with bell because his "soul" is colorless she has the ability to see everyones "soul color" and never came across a translucent or colorless one like Bell's
Freya went on FULL YANDERE MODE, with a perfect M*fia Style “punitive expedition” against all of Hestia’s “Children” who were, essentially, minding their own business😤😂 Oh dear Freya, I can’t wait for the moment where all of your Familia is on the ground, crawling like pathetical earthworms, after Ryu, Bell and possibly Ais (I don’t know if she or her Familia “survived” the brainwashing) beat the s*it out of them… and YOU get sent back to Heaven (possibly by Hestia herself, oh boy that would be EPIC)😍😍😂
Though Bell did meet the minimum requirements to hit level 5, he actually gets much stronger by waiting and pushing his level 4 stats past the max before hitting level 5. The anime doesn't do a great job of explaining power growth outside of the levels themselves. A simple way to look at it is each level incease gives you a flat 1,000 points in strength, endurance, dexterity, agility and magic. (You also have skills that gain in power but I won't go into that.) Then, within each level you can get up to 999 points. You have to have atleast one skill above 500 to be able to level up, but you also need a grand feat, or high quality exelia to do so. Ottar is a maxed out level 7 all his stats are 999 are very close to it. Bell and his aunt are the only two to be able to surpass that score, 1501 is the highest he has gone in a skill yet. That is how he is able to go up against things a level higher than he is. Allen, Hogni, and Hedin all HIGH level 6s, beyond Aiz and Tiona etc, more like Finn, Riveria and Gareth. The 4 Gulliver brothers are all HIGH level 5s. But, their cordination allows them to go toe to toe with any level 6. So if he had been leveled up early, he would miss out on nearly 700-1000 in every stat.
You wish they would treat him better? They are treating him normally. Everyone in Freya familia fucking hates each other because they compete for their goddess's love. So they never talk nice to each other, so there is no "special treatment" for Bell too.
Fraya fallers in love but she does not think anyone truly loves her because of power and beauty, her own power that poisons the other people own soul, but she does not have any control over her own power, unlike the other gods.
Show does a very good job connecting such a small detail in season 1 (grimoir) usually shows give this big mystery or plot in episode one to guide the main quest or goal of the MC
Nah, if a god/goddess could actually die, that would be fitting for Freya. Raises a bunch of fanatical zealot bullies, takes whatever she wants without regard for anyone but herself ("loves" Bell? No, just unhealthy yandere obsession), willing to destroy an entire city because she was actually told "No" once. She's up there with Rachel (Tower of God) and Myne (Shield Hero) for my most hated women in anime.
@madcat1738 Considering I've seen you before several, several times I imagine you've seen me before (whether in comments or Danmemo/Danchro streams)... You should know I'm hardly ever serious. I'm actually a Loki fan, not a Freya fan. 😏 Besides, Lee loves villains. You're certainly not gonna convince him. 🤣
@@SpacePirateLord I think seeing Ottarl raising his sword to Hestia and some of the actions just written about in the LNs kind of reignited my disgust for her. Plus so many others seem to love her. Mainly because she is drawn nicely. I like Loki and Hephaistos probably best among the goddesses, although I want to see more Astrea. It's also late and I tend to be a little less inhibited in the wee hours. And even though I watch a bunch of anime, this is one of the ones I watch the most reactions on. Yeah I remember you. We had some spirited arguments about Bell/Cassandra and curses. Don't take my ranting too seriously. After my son showed me the monster that is Rachel, my evil villainess hate meter leveled up a bit.
I have a theory on one very special ace up Bell's sleeve... or more accurately.... his **back** Those markings on every Familia members backs, the circular glyph pattern. If I'm not mistaken part of the pattern is a crest, a signifier *unique* to each God and Goddess they place to mark the seal of power/skills/levels as theirs. Not to call their members "cattle" but it is kind of "brand", connecting the Child **specifically to that God/Goddess** . The **conversion** is more than just a "job transfer". It's necessary to enable replacing the back marking with the new God as a new pact is formed. And if what Hermes said is true, that Bell has another 6 months before a conversion is possible, Freya can only change people's memories but she can't change the **physical history** ..... the marking on his back still has HESTIA'S CREST. There's no way for Freya to remove Bell's back markings with Hestia's crest. Even further, she can't utilize it, like to get a levels and skill readings, that's part of a Familia routine. **Only Hestia can**. I'm sure Freya will make excuses; "You're getting close to needing a reading.... when the time comes, etc..." But really, just the sight of it alone should it get exposed PROVES not only has Bell **never** been part of the Freya Familia, that he's with Hestia. Plus when Hestia unlocks his Level 5.... **an act only she can do** , will further expose Freya's deception. And this will rally the people against Freya, including the other Gods.... who'll be hellishly pissed off with her, haha.
One thing that confused me a bit is I don't think all of Freya's people know, as their reactions seemed so genuine. Made me think only the elite inner circle still have their memories, but I'm not sure.
The levels of gaslighting will only go up from here 💀, hopefully they adapt whats to come well, cause ngl bells dash towards the city was way way more depressing in the light novel.
@@SadYolken Thts wht I'm saying... When he broke down and Freya went in for the hug I was torn between being angry at her for doing this to a kid and feeling bad for her to have to resort to these extremes coz she can't grasp rejection 😭
@DeltaIK Fr, like people can hate on freya, but you gotta admit the levels this woman goes to, to gaslight and manipulate bell is absolutely insane! Like i gotta respect the dedication.
Just ignore the people hating on Ais and AisxBell acting like Ais doesn't like him and they have nothing. If people actually read the series or paid attention they would see they have a bunch of stuff and have been the endgame couple since the very first chapter and episode
loved the end discussuion lee, i can feel all of you guys passion and love to the series, anyway the real reason for the problems is not freaya, its Bell, bc he didn't choose harem route, if he did that everyone can bbe happy...
Aw man this has one of my most hated plots or powers memory manipulation. I absolutely fucking hate it as a power and when it's used in anime for plots like this.
Hey totally random but I seen shangri la frontier has a second season and wanted to know if you’re gonna watch it and put it on TH-cam Anyone heard anything?
@ could you try an episode and see or perhaps do the entire second season in one massive ep again like you did with the first you’re reactions would be amazing for this season
3:33 Ais haters always say that.😂 Don't listen to them. Look! It's obvious to even anime only fans like you. But it's much more obvious in light novel, especially Sword Oratoria.
@raec5426 Ais should be even more expressive in anime (she shows expressions in both main series LN and Sword Oratoria LN) The improvement of Ais expression in this season is like +5%, so it's not enough to call 'explicit' but people who pay attention should notice that. Anime needs to correct their mistakes from past seasons and give her more expressions like in LN.
freya and boa Hancock are very similar. they both fall for a guy who can resist their charms and beauti. But the difference is boa love luffy and everything she do for him is nothing but love. but for freya she just want bell and that all. She didn't even care a single shit about him and she just wanna be satisfied by having a guy who can resist her.
Look what freya did it bad like really bad BUT I mean imagine having a goddess love u so much they pull this for u idk but in fantasy and fiction that shit is hot
I hate to say it but i am rooting for Freya. Sorry tired of the cookie cutter good and bad guy and freya is great at being either and makes a more intriguing character. Never liked Hestia so she could kill her and take all The members of her familia and Bell would be better of with that familia. Can we get a freya show that would be great. Enjoy Bell and his jorney bonds with the Hestia family memebers but Hestia had been overbearing and annoying to me.
This is how i know the writer loves mythology, his portrayal of gods is in line with how the gods are in Greek myths. They can be just as benevolent as they can be petty. They can help you if it benefits them, or if they think messing with you might be entertaining they will do that even if it messed up another gods plans
Nah.
I’m pretty sure that Freya is a Norse god
I don't know if u guys remember this but back when Bell first encountered Aisha, he asked her why the Ishtar familia was going so far to get him (because Ishtar essentially started a war to capture Bell just so she could charm him and make Freya jealous) and Aisha provided an answer that summarizes "Divine love" from a Goddess. Aisha said "Don't blame me, blame the fact that you caught the eye of a Goddess" and it's so fitting for this season because all this happened when Freya first encountered Bell and from that moment on he had her attention
The worst part is that Bell is an orphan twice over. One of his motivations through out the series is wanting to build a family, and all the people he considers family just rejected him.
For those wondering?
Yes, an approximate 5 months has lapsed since Season 1 (by the first Episode, Bell had been in Orario as an Adventurer for a month). Everyone is still at the exact age they are in the first time with them (Bell being 14, Lili being 15, Welf being 17 Mikoto and Haruhime being 16 etc.).
so wouldn't that make Bell 13?
@@residentmagnum I just literally said he's 14.
In the novel it said 6 month or I'm tripping here
So bell is younger than lili😂 I didn't know
@@aethernity8270 Bell is the youngest of his entire Familia, yes.
Goddess of love couldn’t handle rejection
When you have never been rejected Ever? obviously lmao.
@@Kaimax61 She needs to be rejected, thats what she needs. Shes sick of every one wanting her.
The anime really did a better job at explaining the Freya/Syr connection than any of the comments did 😂
Well it helps to have the visuals as well showing who was who at what time.
@@raec5426 Exactly.. the visuals helped alot!
Thats rare tbh 😂 usually other way around
Freya in myth was goddess of love, fertility, beauty, sex, gold, WAR and MAGIC.
4:40 That’s amazing from Ryu right there: she quickly understood that she went a bit too far, and upon realizing her mistake she immediately apologized and even though Bell’s words sounded a bit like an “indirect rejection” she was able to maintain (at least apparently) her composure… That’s EXTREMELY mature from her, I don’t know how many people would have been able to do it so quickly and so sincerely, that right there my friends, THAT’S EXACTLY WHY SHE’S BEST GIRL😍❤️
P.S. That b*tch Freya could really learn a thing or two from her, but apparently all the time they spent together at the tavern wasn’t enough…🙄😒
(Don’t get mad at me, I know we needed an antagonist and Freya fits the description perfectly… Really, since season 1 I think pretty much everyone knew that, sooner or later, she would eventually become an “enemy”)
Cant blame her. First time she felt in love and he is her only chance for experiencing love ( since well, only bell and the 3 virgin goddesses are immune to her charm)
First Emilia and now Bell.. The Diddy strategy is crazy
new member? bell always been in Freya Famila
Yeah, and as we've been saying since the start of the series, Freya is Baeya.
Indeed 😊@@SpacePirateLord
bro live inside orario
Freya did charm her familia as well, but released them after she finished charming Orario and securing Bell. They are now doing her will to act like Bell has been in the familia since the beginning.
Ryuu indirectly taking her L as a losing heroine with hearing Bell turn down Syr.
Well Bell rejected Freyas "normal love" by rejecting her as Syr. As Freya said she was willing to give up her status as goddess just to have this normal love with Bell as Syr.
Thats why the Freya familia was so torn, if she succedess as Syr the familia probably falls apart but at the same time they want to make their goddess happy
Now Bell her "goddess love" treatment like you said.
So looking back:
- Freya charmed a monster to attack Bell at the monster festival, which she led him to as Syr
- Freya gave him his Firebolt spell
- Freya let Otarl train the minotaurus which Bell defeated with the firebolt
- Freya as Syr gave Bell an item (mediallion) which had the effect to pretect someone from a fatal attack once, which allowed Bell to defeat Apollo familia
- Freya did go to war and defeated Ishtar to protect Bell
so she instigated some trials for him but at the same time saved him from trials that were beyond him and gave him the tools to clear her trials ...
Bell's hell hasn't even started😊
Freya is in love with bell because his "soul" is colorless she has the ability to see everyones "soul color" and never came across a translucent or colorless one like Bell's
Freya went on FULL YANDERE MODE, with a perfect M*fia Style “punitive expedition” against all of Hestia’s “Children” who were, essentially, minding their own business😤😂
Oh dear Freya, I can’t wait for the moment where all of your Familia is on the ground, crawling like pathetical earthworms, after Ryu, Bell and possibly Ais (I don’t know if she or her Familia “survived” the brainwashing) beat the s*it out of them…
and YOU get sent back to Heaven (possibly by Hestia herself, oh boy that would be EPIC)😍😍😂
Though Bell did meet the minimum requirements to hit level 5, he actually gets much stronger by waiting and pushing his level 4 stats past the max before hitting level 5. The anime doesn't do a great job of explaining power growth outside of the levels themselves. A simple way to look at it is each level incease gives you a flat 1,000 points in strength, endurance, dexterity, agility and magic. (You also have skills that gain in power but I won't go into that.) Then, within each level you can get up to 999 points. You have to have atleast one skill above 500 to be able to level up, but you also need a grand feat, or high quality exelia to do so. Ottar is a maxed out level 7 all his stats are 999 are very close to it. Bell and his aunt are the only two to be able to surpass that score, 1501 is the highest he has gone in a skill yet. That is how he is able to go up against things a level higher than he is. Allen, Hogni, and Hedin all HIGH level 6s, beyond Aiz and Tiona etc, more like Finn, Riveria and Gareth. The 4 Gulliver brothers are all HIGH level 5s. But, their cordination allows them to go toe to toe with any level 6. So if he had been leveled up early, he would miss out on nearly 700-1000 in every stat.
Freya really pulled a Tsukishima 😂😂
@@kyng_spade Poor Bell is getting treated like Ichigo.
no Yandere should ever have goddess level powers
Elden Ring Miquella the kind stole everyone else's heart ending
Hestia, Athena, and Artemis were known as the Big 3 Virgin Goddesses.
They are immune to Freya's ability
You wish they would treat him better? They are treating him normally. Everyone in Freya familia fucking hates each other because they compete for their goddess's love. So they never talk nice to each other, so there is no "special treatment" for Bell too.
@@nektarsolne4niy804 i hear ya. Thank you for explaining
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Freya on that booty warrior grindset 💀
I just realized, Freya just pulled a Shu (Bleach) but on an entire city 😂
You mean my classmate Tsukishima?
They damn fullbringered my boy Bell they took all of the stuff he built all Johns connections and I'm guessing Ais and him won't be pretty either
Fraya fallers in love but she does not think anyone truly loves her because of power and beauty, her own power that poisons the other people own soul, but she does not have any control over her own power, unlike the other gods.
Show does a very good job connecting such a small detail in season 1 (grimoir) usually shows give this big mystery or plot in episode one to guide the main quest or goal of the MC
To be fair bell getting to lvl 5 won't really help him yet currently
He is against 4 level 5, 4 level 6, and 1 level 7
Zero chance if he is alone
@rf7182 that's why I said him going 5 won't matter yet xD
A level up plus Haruhime's ability should let him keep up with most of them besides Ottar
@@denickart yah like him alone against whole familia will matter
That's why I said yet
@@denickart Haruhime would probably get taken out before she could cast her magic.
Freya simp detected 12:50 😂😂
'she be lookin' older'
lmao Lili's a year older than Bell. She's 15. XD
Correct and the statement stands. She be lookin older (to us) lol. As its been 5 seasons.
well damn, thanks for the advice welf
Great reaction I can't with Lee him being so supportive of Freya but I feel Director with his look of disgust they did Bell so dirty
That's F'd up to do to Bell.
That Super Mario shirt is so timely, considering this Vols name hehe
Lee, thanks for being loyal to Freya. I knew you would understand her. 😁
Haha. Of course
Nah, if a god/goddess could actually die, that would be fitting for Freya. Raises a bunch of fanatical zealot bullies, takes whatever she wants without regard for anyone but herself ("loves" Bell? No, just unhealthy yandere obsession), willing to destroy an entire city because she was actually told "No" once. She's up there with Rachel (Tower of God) and Myne (Shield Hero) for my most hated women in anime.
@madcat1738 Considering I've seen you before several, several times I imagine you've seen me before (whether in comments or Danmemo/Danchro streams)... You should know I'm hardly ever serious. I'm actually a Loki fan, not a Freya fan. 😏
Besides, Lee loves villains. You're certainly not gonna convince him. 🤣
@@SpacePirateLord I think seeing Ottarl raising his sword to Hestia and some of the actions just written about in the LNs kind of reignited my disgust for her. Plus so many others seem to love her. Mainly because she is drawn nicely.
I like Loki and Hephaistos probably best among the goddesses, although I want to see more Astrea. It's also late and I tend to be a little less inhibited in the wee hours.
And even though I watch a bunch of anime, this is one of the ones I watch the most reactions on.
Yeah I remember you. We had some spirited arguments about Bell/Cassandra and curses. Don't take my ranting too seriously. After my son showed me the monster that is Rachel, my evil villainess hate meter leveled up a bit.
@@SpacePirateLord yeah he hyped up two other goaded women Rachel and Myne
I have a theory on one very special ace up Bell's sleeve... or more accurately.... his **back**
Those markings on every Familia members backs, the circular glyph pattern. If I'm not mistaken part of the pattern is a crest, a signifier *unique* to each God and Goddess they place to mark the seal of power/skills/levels as theirs. Not to call their members "cattle" but it is kind of "brand", connecting the Child **specifically to that God/Goddess** .
The **conversion** is more than just a "job transfer". It's necessary to enable replacing the back marking with the new God as a new pact is formed. And if what Hermes said is true, that Bell has another 6 months before a conversion is possible, Freya can only change people's memories but she can't change the **physical history** ..... the marking on his back still has HESTIA'S CREST. There's no way for Freya to remove Bell's back markings with Hestia's crest. Even further, she can't utilize it, like to get a levels and skill readings, that's part of a Familia routine. **Only Hestia can**. I'm sure Freya will make excuses; "You're getting close to needing a reading.... when the time comes, etc..."
But really, just the sight of it alone should it get exposed PROVES not only has Bell **never** been part of the Freya Familia, that he's with Hestia. Plus when Hestia unlocks his Level 5.... **an act only she can do** , will further expose Freya's deception. And this will rally the people against Freya, including the other Gods.... who'll be hellishly pissed off with her, haha.
One thing that confused me a bit is I don't think all of Freya's people know, as their reactions seemed so genuine. Made me think only the elite inner circle still have their memories, but I'm not sure.
Yes only the core members since the low members is really not significant
The levels of gaslighting will only go up from here 💀, hopefully they adapt whats to come well, cause ngl bells dash towards the city was way way more depressing in the light novel.
@@SadYolken Thts wht I'm saying... When he broke down and Freya went in for the hug I was torn between being angry at her for doing this to a kid and feeling bad for her to have to resort to these extremes coz she can't grasp rejection 😭
@DeltaIK Fr, like people can hate on freya, but you gotta admit the levels this woman goes to, to gaslight and manipulate bell is absolutely insane! Like i gotta respect the dedication.
Comment❤ Your guys discussion's are just to fun and enjoyable to watch! 😂😂
One thing I want to ask from last episode: is Horn actually dead? In the end did they kill her or not?
Just ignore the people hating on Ais and AisxBell acting like Ais doesn't like him and they have nothing. If people actually read the series or paid attention they would see they have a bunch of stuff and have been the endgame couple since the very first chapter and episode
loved the end discussuion lee, i can feel all of you guys passion and love to the series, anyway the real reason for the problems is not freaya, its Bell, bc he didn't choose harem route, if he did that everyone can bbe happy...
Freya seems like the type that may not allow that though
bro down bad for freya's feet
🤤
Uhm whats with the Melenium staff 😂
Look at channel profile pic. Lol.
Freya didn't do anything wrong frl 😤
Bell don't be dumb
Harem route solves all your problems😂
My boy bell needs a lesson from the goat rentaro
We already have this exchange😂@@Sauxeaholic
F harems. Bells just based
Aw man this has one of my most hated plots or powers memory manipulation. I absolutely fucking hate it as a power and when it's used in anime for plots like this.
Hey totally random but I seen shangri la frontier has a second season and wanted to know if you’re gonna watch it and put it on TH-cam Anyone heard anything?
Nope. They gave me three copyright strikes for the first season
@ could you try an episode and see or perhaps do the entire second season in one massive ep again like you did with the first you’re reactions would be amazing for this season
Bell should just act like total garbage until Freya is sick of him.
Too bad that won't work since the gods can sense lies and deception.
That would lead him to death if it worked.
3:33 Ais haters always say that.😂
Don't listen to them.
Look! It's obvious to even anime only fans like you. But it's much more obvious in light novel, especially Sword Oratoria.
I feel like it was more reinforced this season anime-wise for main series, as I can't recall it being more explicit before.
@raec5426 Ais should be even more expressive in anime (she shows expressions in both main series LN and Sword Oratoria LN)
The improvement of Ais expression in this season is like +5%, so it's not enough to call 'explicit' but people who pay attention should notice that.
Anime needs to correct their mistakes from past seasons and give her more expressions like in LN.
@@euphy_connectanime version for some reason remove almost all of Aiz inner monologue like in LN I don't know why
freya and boa Hancock are very similar.
they both fall for a guy who can resist their charms and beauti.
But the difference is boa love luffy and everything she do for him is nothing but love.
but for freya she just want bell and that all. She didn't even care a single shit about him and she just wanna be satisfied by having a guy who can resist her.
Look what freya did it bad like really bad BUT I mean imagine having a goddess love u so much they pull this for u idk but in fantasy and fiction that shit is hot
For real. It's not just a normal goddess either. A goddess of love.
Lust aspect: YES SHE IS THE HOTTEST
Love aspect: Nah, Bell love Ais
@@rf7182 me personally I’m a hestia type of guy
I hate to say it but i am rooting for Freya. Sorry tired of the cookie cutter good and bad guy and freya is great at being either and makes a more intriguing character. Never liked Hestia so she could kill her and take all
The members of her familia and Bell would be better of with that familia. Can we get a freya show that would be great. Enjoy Bell and his jorney bonds with the Hestia family memebers but Hestia had been overbearing and annoying to me.
I don't like Hestia at all, but I loathe Freya. She deserves a fate worse than Ishtar. Give me Loki or Hephaistos.
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