Niche Mechanics (speed ties, offsetting, corrosion & more) [Limbus Company]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- This video explains how some niche mechanics in Limbus Company work. It's a short and simple video with no frills - just getting the info out there. Speed ties, ego resources, offsetting, "combat start" defense skill effects, and corrosion niche mechanics are explained.
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"Hey PM how do I get more information?"
"Oh that's simple, you put the game in less information mode"
The turn order info is super useful for solo mdh runs in terms of fighting bosses
Overclocking putting you into a sin debt is intentional
There are two types of overclocking: "safe" overclocking when you have sufficient resources, that will prevent corrosion from attacking your allies and "not safe" when you don’t have enough resources and the skill will remain indiscriminate
thanks for the explanation
i also noticed that there will be indications when it is safe to overclock or not, if it's in red it's not safe to overclock and it's yellow when it is safe
and different sfx if you try to overclock it@@oliveracdog6182
CORROSIONS CAN DO THAT??
@@jup9618 some egos arent indiscriminate in corrosion/overclock
Who cares about scuff when your toturial is good, really useful, thanks
9:18 the answer is frankly simple, anything with [combat start] means they activate the second you enter the combat phase, no strings attached; any skill that needs a coin to be rolled are usually under [on use]. Think of it as sort of a passive you can manually activate with said skill for that turn which may have lasting effects like T Corp Don's "borrowed time" state
One of the funny things about all of the PM games is that mechanics are so badly explained that trying to navigate all of the systems becomes a skill in on itself. It's pretty fun trying to crack how the systems work, doing experiments and observing results like a scientist.
new LCE department dedicated to figuring out how tf the game works
You should have seen limbus first 6 months
There wasnt even a Coin tutorial, so you have to learn how coin work by yourself
Targeting in Human mission still not explained, so people are super confuse by it
Resonance ONLY gove damage boost
Don got a "Gain haste by Lust Resonance" passive and the "+ power at 10 more speed" uet it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to reach 10 speed, and Lust Res was pretty hard to get as Only counter give Sin afinity below Uptie 4
An important consideration for the defense skill intricacies is that the defense skill of an enemy will activate automatically at some point if not "clashed" or offset. If an enemy has fast rolls and targets a low speed sinner, however, you can purposefully clash it with the low speed sinner to push back its activation until that sinner attacks. When I'm using Regret Faust, for example, I'd rather hit a defense skill with, say, "[On Use] Gain 5 protection" with her S1 if she's second to last or last to go to get tremor count than offset and get nothing if both will deal effectively 0 damage.
Yeah it's niche but it comes up enough for me to consistently consider it.
I learned this the very hard way in the new intervallo pack at MD. I was taking some difficult trials to challenge myself cuz I thought the boss won't be that bad. I was dead wrong. At the unbreakable coin phase, I made the boss clash on my slowest sinner, and thankfully I could finally finish him with only 2 of my sinners dying
The green marker is truly peak
it was one of the most requested features from the last video so I had to deliever
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It's an obligation
you really sound like a professor lecturing me in limbus mechanics. i really love this vibe. thank you for the video!
i actually didnt know about the turn order thing, never would have thought to downgrade information to access that info
Thank you so much! I've been dying to know how the speed ties work since in-game they've been resolving seemingly at random.
cool video with some lesser known game mechanics, but i think mentioning attack weight target manipulation (on focused encounters) would also be cool!
a lot of people are asking for a video on attack weight manipulation, so I'll see what I can figure out. Thanks for the suggestion
I'd also like to have a proper tutorial for that. It was easy enough to learn when it was just with EGO you could see what they woukd attack, but now so many skills and ego with weight conditionals i end up getting confused where the attacks are gonna land because there is no visual confirmation...
9:15 the [combat start] is like a guaranteed effect completely separated from its skill, it will activate no matter if the skill is even active or not (as long as the skill is presented on the bar, the combat start will active).
At 8:25 I say "we got a gloom resource". This is a mistake - I meant to say gluttony.
Nice video, I'll be taking a look at the rest of your channel. One thing I wanted to add about negative resources, in dungeons where your resources carry over between fights, all negative resources are set to 0 between fights, so you will never start a fight in the negative.
interesting, I've never had that happen before so I never knew. Thanks.
Some extra lil notes from my own experience and testing
Clashable defense skills do use their own speed for initiative, and clashable counters can also offset and still react to being hit like a regular counter
The best use case for offsetting enemy defense skills is denying On Use effects. Combat start effects activate no matter what but on use effects only activate when the skill is brought into use mid combat, which offsetting prevents. Acquiring sin affinities is an On Use event which is why u get nothing if a skill is offset or a sinner staggers before using their regular skills
Offsetting is super underutilized from what ive seen and it can make some tough bosses much easier like denying nelly her extra speed dice or preventing hohenheim from gaining poise from his guards
Very cool video btw! I alwaystruggle identifying initiative in speed ties but the concise info tip is gonna really help out
@@Lil_lunatic thanks for the write up, I haven’t used clashable counters much so this was interesting
Nice stuff, glad to see people making more content like this.
Some small little things for some of the points:
Think of speed not an integer value, but as a floating point number with 3 decimal places. Basically 6 speed isn't actually 6 speed it's 6.xyz, so it could be 6.000 or 6.999, the game just displays the floored integer value, but internally that is what determines the order, eg 6.999 speed goes before 6.000 speed, despite both saying 6 speed. The concise mode definitely helps a ton with that since before that you'd just have to guess (pain for rr1 solos)
In addition, it might be obvious from anecdotal experience, but to redirect an attack you need to have a higher integer speed value: Eg 6.5 speed cannot redirect 6.4 speed despite being faster, but 7.000 can redirect 6.999
Then one small thing for support passives and passives: basically the game checks the conditions and targets as soon as combat starts, and then that cannot be altered for that turn, which may or may not be the most useful information. Eg, Middle Meur passive is targeting ahab ishmael since everyone is 45 sp and she is first deployment slot, once combat starts she is the target for that support passive the entire turn regardless of what anyone elses sp changes to. Or if she wasn't the target, she wouldn't heal even if she becomes the least sp during the turn since the game already decided to target another sinner.
The same applies for ego resources, as long as you have enough resources during the turn, passives will activate and stay activated no matter what, even if you were to lose the required amounts mid combat (really only possible during MFE fight). But more importantly You can't activate passives mid turn if you gained the required resources. They're on or off as soon as you press start
Wall of text jumpscare, but just a few extra small details people might find value from!
The paragraph about decimal speeds feels needlessly complicating? Isn't it just saying "characters who roll the same speed (integer) value will move in a random order" with extra steps? It's neat trivia I guess if that's how the game calculates it internally, but not actually any more useful of an explanation?
thanks for the write up - that way of looking at speed makes sense. I never knew that passives couldn't activate mid-turn actually.
Really comprehensive and understandable! This shoukd get more views
agred! now that nowadays maybe more people are getting introduced to limbus company, these types of videos will help people know and understand the game better (mfw the ingame tutorial is still bad)
i appreciate the compliment!
Thanks very much for the information. Your presentations have been excellent. I've also struggled to find reliable information on how niche combat situations work. I hadn't thought about screen recording my gameplay to rewind and compare.
just gonna say some things that I personally picked up when playing, from my understanding you gain an ego resource at the same time as the on use conditional, which is JUST BEFORE the skill shows up, even before a coin gets flipped
this can be seen when fighting shock centipede if you kill him from doing a clash and having him die from the on use self-charge loss, you still gain the resource from the skill you were going to clash with despite your skill not even showing up for a frame
additionally, with Combat Start, that triggers when you hit the button to start the combat phase, regardless of when the skill will be used as all that matters is that the skill is in play, which is why zwei ishmael still gains her defensive stance, and why if an enemy uses a defense skill that something like gains protection on combat start, the protection is gained at the start of the combat phase regardless of whether or not the skill was offset
also you probably should have mentioned that if overclocking puts you into debt IT CAN STILL TARGET TEAMMATES, indicated by the overclock being red instead of orange
Your explanation makes sense. I agree it probably lines up with the on use conditional - that would explain those edge situations where an enemy explodes before you can even flip a coin. Other commenters have mentioned overclock too - that was my bad for failing to explain it right.
@ all good, I will say the way you described working out the speed ties and edge cases with that was effectively done, I had read somewhere about changing it to the lower information mode but I don’t think I had heard about any of the other stuff which would be helpful when trying to plan out a turn
I actually learnt most of these when doing solos for zwei ish, priest greg, and sunshower heath. It was surprising to learn these and i had to restrategize at some points, especially with a certain depressed hobo
I actually discovered the turn order thing in RR4 and i just thought that everyone knew about it. Also goated Video mate keep up the good work
Genuinely one of the best videos I’ve seen on this game. Great job!
really effective green marker use, amazing indeed
also if im not wrong the combat start thing was also like that in ruina, as you could use purely defensive pages that didnt activate in battle but their combat start effects would still proc
My ruina playthrough was like 13 months ago so I don't quite remember how it works. That sounds right though, I think
Small corrections(mostly just looking from slides and not in detail explaination)
1.3 I think it would make it easier to understand if you said something like if X Sinner got 3 speed and Y Sinner got 2 speed who is also clashing against enemy who got 6 speed, the Y sinner will go first. At least if I understood this right
1.4. Clashable defense are an exception
2.1. It's more like it's tied to using a skill. Think of it like every skill with a sin affinity has a hidden [On Use] effect that gives a corresponding sin affinity
4.1. Combat Start is not tied to defense skills. Combat start happens once you finish preparing up skills and start the combat
5.1. A literal ingame mechanic. Overclock lets you use corrosions without them being indiscriminate(attacks everyone including allies), at the cost of needing 1.5x resources. But if you don't have enough to overclock, but still have enough to use normal one, you still can do overclock but the ego corrosion skill still is indiscriminate.
It's also shown by the icon of overclock being red and even saying warning
I didnt even know about the concise mode until now
The most helpful video on limbus I've seen
hey glad it was helpful!
i remember when they added the ability to overclock they said if you could use the base ego you could overclock with not enough ego resources just that it would keep the [indiscriminate] line
overclocking with the sins needed and adequate sanity will remove the [indiscriminate] part of the corrosion
there is also much more funny niche things i want to bring to you:
-you can manipulate attack weight as extra attack weight prioritizes EMPTY/UNTARGETED slots
-you canNOT get staggered when taking shield damage even when below a stagger threshold
-you are able to dictate the order of skills you use for skills of the same speed attacking targets of the same speed in the order you drag them in
-example: w don and w ryoshu are at 5 speed attacking a staggered enemy at 4 speed. if you drag ryoshus skill to the enemy first and then dons onto the skill slot of the enemy, ryoshu will attack first even if she comes AFTER don in the chain. this is for SAME speed, HIGHER speeds will take priority (idk test a little i think i remember a time where they didnt.)
-ppl like to say that the formula for offense and defense level down damage is hard but its pretty simple. take the difference and divide the difference by itself plus 25. just memorize this formula with a calculator to instantly know the value of the damage increase or reduction.
-example: you are attacking with 51 offense level to the enemy 50 defense level. the difference is 1, so the amount of change in damage is equal to 1/26. because it is 1 difference divided by 1 + 25. same for 3 difference, the change will come out to 3/28, because it is 3 divided by 3 + 25. enter these into a calculator for yourself to find the end modifier. depending which of the offense or defense level is higher, you will know if the change is either an increase or a decrease in damage. use this as a handy method to accurately calculate any offense to defense level difference.
-defense skills gain final power by the difference, this includes counter skills (not clashable counters as that uses offense level not defence). im also pretty sure counter skills are affected by defense level up/down. because defense level up comes more abundantly than offense level up, maybe someone can use that to their advantage?
-certain effects make units unable to gain new slots. though it only happened once, i was running a trio team, and i got to fight fey lantern. when my last unit was about to gain the 6th skill slot for the fight, they got lured, giving another unit the 6th slot. this resulted in a unit with 3 slots, a unit with two slots and a unit with one in the same fight. i even have a photo of it saved. i wonder if this is the same with stagger but probably not i dont remember it happening with it.
i also want you to look into somethings ive been thinking about
1. what is the trigger that makes the skills go all at once in chain battles? i heard skills with cinematics trigger individual clashing rather than mass clashing or is it s3's? anyways this can be used to make md faster.
2. when in a clash and losing coins but still going through, which coins do you lose? when losing coins and going through with the attack, ive seen skills use their first coins and their last coins without consistency, i want to know more about this. does it lose coins I > V first or V > I basically
thats all i can think of just for now, could even be more, theres alot in this game but yeah
1) S3’s and EGOs will stop all other clashes. Skills with attack weight can stop skills that would hit extra targets. For example, if there’s 3 enemies and your first skill in the turn is Wild Hunt’s S2 with max attack weight, no other skills will be used until WH’s S2 finishes (I’m not 100% sure about this but it seems to be consistent, might have other conditions I’m unaware of)
2) Clashing always destroys coins from first to last. The animation that plays will depend on each ID. This means that, for a 2-coin skill, if you lose one of its coins, the first coin will always be the one that breaks and the second coin will be used even if the animation is of the first coin
Take this with a grain of salt, I’m a random person on the internet not a Limbus dev lol
just gonna talk about the losing coins part, I have no clue what handles the animations for the coins, but from looking at the effects it seems to lose the first coins first, so like if you lose 2 coins with W Don's skill 2, you don't gain the charge on hit from the first two coins, but you can inflict the fragile on heads hit
wow thats a lot of information, thanks man
Green Pen just like kim intended, very cool and informative video
This game is full of niche mechanics. Another one that gets forgotten is that clashing gives a passive damage bonus of about 3% for every clash in a clash count. Cinq has this as an ability but all sinner id's and enemies have a smaller version of the Cinq ability.
This is so good game knowledge for min maxing ty!!
glad it was helpful
Amazing and very informative!!
Great video. Sadly the game is so easy with meta units that most of players aren't going to care much about this kind of video but you got my sub.
On the topic of corrosion, going negative resources with overclock will make it able to hit allies. Or more correctly using overclock with enough ego res will remove a trait that make corrosion ego target allies. I never studied overclock much myself because is hella expensive which make it useful only on very niche situations. The only time I took a glance on overclocking was when they were introduced. I don't know if there is more nuances to it than what I already know.
glad you liked the video - other commenters have mentioned the overclock thing too. That was my bad.
Very great video, but there are still some more unwritten rules that people should know about that could be a video. Like how skills with different coin types kinda rock, paper, scissors each other.
1. Single coin skills can pierce evades
2.Usually never tie the clash value of negative coin skills, especially if they have multiple coins.
3.Multi coin skills can win against high value low coin amount skills if they roll higher than the minimum value.
4.Speed and skill rarity affect combat order. E.G.O>Skill 3> Skill 1&2, (I also don't fully know how this works because speed & attack weight makes this weird.)
I might have forgotten some but, some of the smaller details of combat mechanics can be completely skipped by some people, or they just don't know it.
Edit:
5. Clash able counters also trigger even when offsetting, clash able guards also might I just haven't tested it manually yet.
I also might have just been placeboing myself with number 4.
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Great video btw, offset should've been in the main tutorial in the game but was never mentioned at all
yeah this way of recording the video was not the best lol, glad you found it interesting
These are good videos, remember to ask people to subscribe mate.
5:50 I might be wrong on this but im fairly certain you generate ego resources the moment the coin is queued/drafted/pending for combat. Meaning you don’t have to have your sinner roll a coin to get the resource. you already got the resource upon initiating combat with your drafted coins. (upon personal experience i do this to get pride resources to fuel my magic bullet outis in md's)
yeah, it looks like EGO resources are actually generated "on use", not on coin flip - that was my bad
Another thing with turn order is that when a sinner has multiple slots, skills will activate from the order you selected them, however, skill that are clashing will always be used from left to right and before all of the unoposed skills (I may be wrong on this, I did not test with multiple ennemies)
good video
Try putting this into a powerpoint so you can be scuffed like kim ji hoon, love the green marker as well
Nice video, thanks a lot !
you mentioned how ego resources are specifically created when a coin is flipped, if this different from the skill "appearing" but not visually flipping any coin? Mainly in the scenario where a sinner clashes with an enemy that dies at the start of the clash before either side flips any coins. I'm pretty sure On Use effects trigger when this happens but I haven't paid attention to if ego resources were generated. I'd kinda assumed that the On Use happened at the same time as resource gen so if not huh
Other commenters pointed out that I may be incorrect here - it seems that if a skill visually appears you will get an EGO resource, even if no coins are flipped. I can confirm that On Use effects will trigger in this scenario too.
The lime marker, bro is Kim jihoon
Love the video! A little bit a background music would go a long way though :)
Nice guide, you got some of the niche strat or mech.
I was wondering if I should do one but I think im very lazy to make a video about it.
There still actually many niche but a game changer.
Idk if im insane or Im just a lucky to find alot of things about this game (maybe cause LOR I really like to break open that)
Some like negate all skill (inculde unbreakable aoe) and even plan to skip the enemies whole turn.
Or making unit to get 30+ sp just by clashing once from nev sanity.
It quite a enjoyment for me to find alot of them.
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just like any pm live stream, really scuffed presentation👍👍
This is so peak...
Thanks man
I dont think concise is lying at your 2nd point, it looked like its telling the order of the sinners' speed as in the dashboard. Also I'm almost sure theres some kind of skill priority on the game, where s3s and egos will clash before and some times even interrupt the animation of other skills to play theirs.
thanks for the very helpful video
at 5:02 u forgot to mention that clashable defense skills still use the defender unit speed
You can offset two defensive skills with one defensive skill as long as they are targeted the same skill slot
Not sure if this was just a bug or a genuine caveat for a speed tie with defence skills, but when I did an MD solo run against the envy pecatulums in floor 5, whenever there was a speed tie and I aim an evade towards the unit concise mode says will go first, the turn order gets adjusted and the first unit will now go last out of all the units in the speed tie
Example: Heathcliff, Ryoshu, and Gregor all roll a 6 on speed and concise mode says they go in the listed order, if I aim an evade at Heathcliff, the new turn order will be Ryoshu, Gregor, *then* Heathcliff.
Haven’t tested it much yet but it’s just something weird that I noticed while doing the run
Also for 9:16 I wouldn’t really say it’s that weird cause as the conditional says, it’s on “combat start” not “on use” like most defence skills would have, so you don’t need to have the skill “trigger,” just have it “active” if that explanation made any sense
Also adding onto weird mechanics with offsetting, you can offset with a clashable defence skill but still use it if a different skill slot is targeting the sinner, works with both clashable guards and counters
thats strange with the defense skills, not sure why that is
the only niche mechanic I need to know is the P+enter keybinds
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awesome videos
truly our goat
You should make full tutorial per each technicque
I was planing on it, but i dont have the time for it
Sin affinity changing on EGO use is another
The most important would be Concistant dodge/block activation agains AOE or with the same character who just lost a clash
Resonance manipulation is 1 i use
Where all 6 memeber are set to Res on 3 diferent Sin
For example envy, pride, and Wrath, are easy to chain in several teams, you just have to know the distribution
Btw, I believe negative ego resources reset to 0 next combat for stuff like mirror dungeons and railways where you keep your resources between combats
I actually never knew that individual arrow mode or whatever it's called actually showed who goes first when the arrows flicker. The only reason i even use it is because concise mode is waaaaay too cluttery for me
I do have a question, that I've been wondering - When a sinner forcefully corrodes, how is the EGO to be used chosen?
I played some solo MD runs or solo Thread Luxcavation before and sometimes the sinner that I use does get corroded. But they always use the same EGO, but it's not always the highest tier one (I recently remember Sinclair corroding into Hex Nail despite also having access to Lantern, which is a tier higher)
And also, when you play solo, you have access to multiple slots after a few turns, but I wonder how is it decided that some slots will have a Corrosion, while others will have the "unable to act" thing
I would like to know this stuff, please
most of those are random, and when a sinner corrode, at least 1 slot will have corrosion ego, and the corrosion is based on the last used ego(not base ego), if not then it select randomly
I believe daan_long's answer is correct. It uses the last E.G.O. used. If you haven't used an E.G.O. yet it will randomly select one. The sinner's base E.G.O. do not have corrosions, so they are ignored.
Only difference between "Max" and "Mid" is just the status effect info afaik, so there isn't really much of a reason to use it cuz Mid is just a better ui, at least for me.
Counter activates upon the first incoming attack regardless of your targeting, not sure about clashable counter tho, it might not activate if it's already clashing because it's basically just a skill 4 if you clash with it.
Also, another niche is that ShiMael S2 gets 4 coins in clash because her conditional activate [On Use] while KK hong lu doesn't cuz it's [Before Attack]. Can't really think of any weird niche interaction on the spot, but undoubtedly there are like these.
Thats pretty interesting about ShiMael and KK Hong Lu actually. No wonder ShiMael feels so strong and KK Hong Lu doesn't.
You didn't mention attack weight management (skills with more than 1 atk weight will select their sub-targets based on if they aren't targeted by other skills). For example, if there are enemy A, enemy B and enemy C. If you just use EGO (atk weight 2) on enemy A, it will target enemies A and B. BUT if you first chain another sinner's skill into enemy B, then use EGO on enemy A, then this EGO wil target enemies A and C.
So it prioritizes sub-targets that are not being attacked already.
And if you then remove the other sinner's arrow from enemy B, EGO will still target enemies A and C. This works on any atk weight and lets you choose the specific targets for EGOs. I don't really know how this affects skills that gain attack weight at combat start tho.
thanks for the write-up. Other commenters have mentioned wanting a video on attack weight too so I will look into it
When an EGO is forcibly executed, does it consume EGO resources? Two examples of this are 1) when a sinner corrodes and uses the EGO as a corrosion 2) When the Rusty Commemorative Coin EGO Gift activates the first one-coin skill used in the turn for a second time. If the forced execution does consume resources, then can we go into negative resources from it? Sometimes corroded Sinners will use one EGO skill even with 2 slots on the dashboard. I wonder if that's random chance or if it's relrelated to resources owned.
The last point in your video said that EGO corrosion will use EGO resources and put the resources into the negatives. I missed that the first go. Probably the Rusty Commemorative Coin will also consume resources twice, then. Maybe even going negative. When I play Mirror Dungeon, I save most of my EGO resources until the fifth floor in case I have a lot of trouble winning clashes due to mounting trials and so I haven't noticed if it goes negative, yet.
1) Yes, if a sinner corrodes and uses E.G.O. it will consume E.G.O. resources.
2) Rusty Commemorative Coin does not consume E.G.O. resources; it "reuses" the E.G.O. rather than cast it again as a separate skill.
3) Yes, if a sinner corrodes and uses E.G.O. you will go into negative. The best example is a solo run - I was doing a solo run with Sunshower Heathcliff and corroded, being forced to use King in Binds. It activated like 5 times and I went to like negative 20 envy lol
On the subject of how many EGO Skills a Corroded Sinner uses, it is semi-random. A Corroded Sinner is guaranteed at least 1 EGO Skill across their Skill Slots, and then each additional Skill Slot has a 50% chance of generating an EGO Skill.
Hi, thanks for the very informative video, I just have a few questions:
1. Will combat start effects on enemy defense skills still activate even if offset?
2. What about on use effects?
1) Yes, combat start enemy defense skills will still activate if offset. The rules for them work the same as for the sinner. For example, a lot of enemies have a "phase change" turn where they only use defense skills and each one gives like 10 protection up. You can't just offset these and skip the phase change.
2) On use effects only activate when the skill is used - so immediately before flipping a coin.
With how offsetting works, can you explain how if there is an indiscriminate ego corrosion happening towards the sinners, if there is a way to use defense skills against them? Counters work as regular but others appear not to, maybe it’s a speed thing. But if multiple defensive skills are targeting one single slot of an enemy aoe they all get used, very confusing
if you use a defense skill against a skill that has attack weight, the defense skill should still activate even if it says "one-sided"
Kim Ji-hoon, is this you?
Combat start effects do what they say really, the effect isn’t tied to the skill being used (like on use skills) and instead happens when the combat phase starts
This is great
600+ hours in game and still learnt smth new (one-sided defense stuff, counter offsetting defense but not vice-versa)
Can you do similar one but for unfocused battle? Some things still are a mystery to me (clashing order, positioning, skill priorities)
yeah unfocused battles are a bit of a mystery to me too. I was initially planning on including information about them in this video but decided to postpone that. I'll look into it
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Wait, if we lose clash with to yeild my flesh and use to claim your bone, do we get both wrath and pride resources? And plz make a video about atk target manipulation. I’m still sometimes confused about it.
it should, as long you use a skill you will get a sin resource for the corresponding affinity
if you want the gist of aoe manipul. Extra attack weight prefers not target slots already targetted by another skill.
So you first slot a skill on a target you dont want to hit then put the aoe skill main target, it should show that the extra targets arent the first slot (the one already targetted by another skill) unless there is no other eligible slots (too much attack weight or other slots are all targetted).
Note: If you put the aoe first then the skills to manipulate the targetting it will still work even though it wont show; and if you remove the skill used to manipulate it will revert to the original state; also Gained Attack Weight wont show on preview (ex. Eletric Dreaming Don) and non-ego skill also can be manipulated (ex. dawnclair s2, wild hunt s2).
A great enemy to see this in practive is the Skin Prophet, put an aoe ego an see its targetting, it most likely will target the body and some candles. Now put some skills on the candles or the body and see it change (I mean put in that exact slot because it has lots of slots on main body). To verify just put the ego on the same slot again (eg. untarget and target again)
yield my flesh to claim their bones should give a wrath and pride ego resource. A lot of other commenters are asking about attack weight so I'll look into it.
@@anannoyingweeb359 oh I mean in corrosion state, should be more specific with my question. When sinners corroded, I just try to use the skills in different orders and just wish that they hit the ones I want to. Sometimes it work, sometimes it won’t.
@@LongNguyen-cz5ty oh yeah I have no clue on that I just assume Im screwed
Do clashable counters work the same way for the offsetting dynamic? I've yet to try that, I just use the counter to well, clash lol
I believe they do
Do you know of Claim their Bones has any Boost if there is a pride Res or Shield my flesh is on Res?
To Claim Their Bones does not get resonance boost since it is not on the dashboard at combat start. This is also why it cannot be affected by Regret.
what if I die to bleed? will that give me ego resource or I will, well, die first?
good question - you should get ego resources since the skill was used (but you just died from flipping a coin).
scuffed powerpoint presentation. A perfect project moon video really
Yay!
Now do one for LoR 😂
What's the name of the on-screen drawing app u use?
ppInk - I downloaded it off GitHub
@fedrick1connery607 thanks!
I didn’t know much of this, some of it feels like ruina files I’m used to, dine here completely new. Please make more, I’m curious about ego targeting because I heard it can be manipulated(when you don’t have a say in the target) but I couldn’t figure out how
IIRC AoE EGO targetting prioritizes untargeted skill slots, so if you want to manipulate what the AoE targets, first slot skills from your other sinners into the enemy slots you DON'T want to target and for last slot in the AoE EGO and it will first target everything that isnt targeted yet, after you do this you can reasign the other sinner's skills and the AoE will keep the original targeting
@ thank you, does this work on corrosion? Or just the aoe attack weight? Because I’ve been trying to figure that out
hey man thanks for the question. A lot of commenters are asking about attack weight manipulation so I'll look into it.
@ it’s something I never understood well
@@foxxbaker Corrosion Attack Weight targeting cannot be manipulated like Awakening can. They are fixed to their targeting, nothing you can do to change that (except if a unit dies in a normal encounter, since then it re-targets to a different unit like any other Skill.)
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So this is why I couldn't offset god-damn counters, they cannot be offset anyway...
Faust!
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By soloing a shitton on MD4 and 5 I know most of that.
Oh? You will stagger me with your big damage, stupid? Nah, I don't consent *corrodes*
When using E.G.O. your sin resistances change.
When at -45 Sanity, if staggered, the next turn that you are supposed to corrode you will revert the stagger.
Ryoshu is really cool
Every 3 Defence Level Difference between the attacker's Offence Level is 10% damage
Every 3 Offence Level Difference when clashing is 1 Clash Power
If you Corrode with one Sinner or just a Sinner with more slots, the E.G.O. shows up more than once in the dashboard if you have resources