Destruction Warlock Guide for The War Within Season 1!

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  • @DukeLetoIII
    @DukeLetoIII 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Holy shit, an actual adult explaining how to play a Warlock spec without rambling or mumbling through everything at 1,000mph as if everyone has played the class for 20 years and doesn't need a nice, concise, slow breakdown of why things happen the way they do and how to take advantage of the various talent procs.

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @DukeLetoIII My comment of the day! This one cracked me up 🤣. Glad you enjoyed the video.

    • @modgeman1
      @modgeman1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      couldn't agree more with this!

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@modgeman1 Thanks!

    • @smg7244
      @smg7244 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TwoAngryFrogshonestly though, I’ve been playing since BC first came out and just never had any interest in playing a lock😂 well now as I’m on my 6th 80 I figured why not! And they are a different beast then every class

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@smg7244 They are for sure. For me the hardest thing to get used to as compared the Hunter was having to stand still to cast almost anything. So the timing of spells is a lot more critical so you are not constantly interrupting your spell casts.

  • @MichaelPollock-c2s
    @MichaelPollock-c2s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I appreciate the detail. Coming back to WoW after 10-13 years-so it’s a bit of a learning curve for me.

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @MichaelPollock-c2s So glad we could help. And welcome back! 😊

  • @MSalem7777
    @MSalem7777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just started a warlock alt and found your video while trying to learn. Let me say I absolutely love that you show different playstyles that while they may not maximize DPS, offer viable alternative playstyles to help keep things fun!

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @MSalem7777 Thank you! Really appreciate that and we'll make sure we keep that up going forward.

  • @Leo.witchere
    @Leo.witchere 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    what is the add on on the side that shows you what you need to cast please sir ?

  • @justinmccray5014
    @justinmccray5014 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You don't need to cast cataclysm to maintain wither. It's an instant cast spell and havoc can apply it to save a global. The opposite talent to cataclysm is inferno which reduces the cost of rain of fire to 2 shards which makes it better for Aoe so you can keep building stacks of wither.

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @justinmccray5014 Thanks for the comment! Agreed you can go either way. Inferno drives a lot more Rain of Fire casts. For AoE, Cataclysm is just an easier way to apply Wither to all enemies at once. Otherwise you need to individually DoT them outside of any Havocs.

  • @jamesrohling
    @jamesrohling 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome guide you got my sub 👍

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jamesrohling Awesome, thank you! Much appreciated.

  • @jayjackson3836
    @jayjackson3836 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know this a few months later but what are your keybinds. I am new to this whole mouse and keyboard thing

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @jayjackson3836 Thanks for the comment! In the following video (th-cam.com/video/TUbCumFFpPs/w-d-xo.html) I talk about keybindings and at the 9:00 mark there is an overlay that shows the actual keys. I use the same setup for all characters as far as where the keys are mapped into the actions bars.

  • @jontxu978
    @jontxu978 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been loving destruction while levelling so this really helps, thank you!

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jontxu978 Happy to help and thanks for the comment!

  • @ricknose
    @ricknose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the playstyle of Hellcaller - I find using the Cataclysm + Malevolence + Channel Hellfire combo on a pack of mobs so visually sarisfying and intuitive - but Diabolist does so much more damage, so quickly and so easily, that I don't feel I can play Hellcaller. I miss Channel Demonfire. 💔

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ricknose Thanks for the comment! You can also play Channel Demonfire with Diabolist. For my Warlock it is about 2% DPS loss if I take Channel Demonfire over Shadowburn. For open world content and just running around the world, that is not really a big difference.

    • @ricknose
      @ricknose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TwoAngryFrogs Also, I forgot to say, the video itself is excellent and I really like your content.

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ricknose Thank you!

  • @alexandervignettes9537
    @alexandervignettes9537 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Haste=crit means the % or the stat value? Like 5000 haste and 5000 crit, or like 30% haste and 30% crit?

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @alexandervignettes9537 We are looking at it from % values and thanks for the question.

  • @5133937
    @5133937 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good guide overall, but I'd really like see a comparison of the two bottom-spec-tree talents "Chaos Incarnate" vs "Power Overwhelming". Both buff your Mastery but in different ways, and seem to be the only two optional nodes in the lower spec tree. Which is better? You've taken PO in your builds, but what's the math/theorycraft there?

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @5133937 Thanks for the comment! For me I could probably go either way. There is only about a 3K DPS difference (less than 0.5%) between the two for my current gear, enchants, and so on. Chaos Incarnate only affects Chaos Bolt, Shadowburn, and Rain of Fire, whereas Power Overwhelming affects all spells cast. I would say of you are running Channel Demonfire over Shadowburn, that may definitely lean toward PO since you would not be getting anything from CI for Shadowburn.
      Honestly, there are so many variables in sims that I consider all talent recommendations as guidelines. They are definitely not hard in concrete "you have to do this". There are some talents like that just because they are so much better than others, but like you point out, PO and CI can be interchanged at times depending on the character.

  • @jambobrenn8171
    @jambobrenn8171 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see you with the Oblivion music 👌

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jambobrenn8171 Yeah that is all AngryFrog 2. He grabs Oblivion, Dark Souls, and other really good music.

  • @thegreekgeek7113
    @thegreekgeek7113 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great vid - with big aoe packs using M+ Diabolist build without Cataclysm, when would I cast / weave in immolates on additional targets as opposed to using shard aoe spenders / builders?

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @thegreekgeek7113 Thanks! It is a lot more difficult in AoE just because it requires multiple casts in between looking to spam Rain of Fire as much as possible. In the video starting at 10:18 and 10:40 you'll see I am weaving them in by Tab targeting to spread across as many enemies as possible. So it really is a timing thing when you are in the process of trying to build Soul Shards for more Rain of Fire. Hope that helps!

  • @valentincardozo3761
    @valentincardozo3761 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good guide, I'm following you from DF, what Weakaura are you using? I can't find it in wago

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @valentincardozo3761 Thank you! That is the Luxthos weakaura. You can grab from Wago but I typically just go to his site. www.luxthos.com/

    • @ivory9494
      @ivory9494 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For anyone else looking for it, the WA is Luxthos warlock

  • @SeanHarper-q9e
    @SeanHarper-q9e 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great guide! Thanks!

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @SeanHarper-q9e Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @vonweaveygaming
    @vonweaveygaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really cannot get used to shadowburn. Like do i use that over chaos bolt or just try weave it in every so often. I just dont get it lol

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @vonweaveygaming Thanks for the question! You are more or less weaving them in. You will want to fire one if you are sitting on 2 charges or if the action button lights up indicating it will be a critical hit. Shadowburn does damage on par with Chaos Bolt but only costs 1 Shard instead of the 2 for Chaos Bolt. But it comes with the cooldown so unlike Chaos Bolt you will sometimes have to wait to cast it.

    • @vonweaveygaming
      @vonweaveygaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @TwoAngryFrogs ahh I see. That makes a lot of sense. I've been using it past couple of days and I think im getting used to it 😂

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vonweaveygaming Awesome!

  • @Zapijatko
    @Zapijatko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great guide!

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Zapijatko Thanks!

  • @mintent
    @mintent 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you say shadowburn proc, what proc are you referring to?

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mintent Thanks for the question! Shadowburn will proc for a guaranteed critical strike. It should light up your action bar button when it procs.

    • @mintent
      @mintent 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TwoAngryFrogs Thanks!

  • @michaelkjr3415
    @michaelkjr3415 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the simplicity of destruction. I don’t think specs needs a two page rotation to be fun.
    The new visuals is a perfect example of “simple” yet fun gameplay in my opinion.

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @michaelkjr3415 100% agree. I love the visuals of Destro (especially Diabolist) and it changes things up just enough to feel a bit different from Dragonflight.

  • @blacksunaccounts
    @blacksunaccounts หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you ever sacrifice pet?

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @blacksunaccounts Thanks for the question. I personally do not since losing the and having to resummon is more DPS loss than you gain from sacrificing.

  • @sacredcow61
    @sacredcow61 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you!

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @sacredcow61 You're welcome!

  • @ricknegron
    @ricknegron 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the video thank you.

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ricknegron Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @SabinAlbei
    @SabinAlbei 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cast Shadowburn Icon Shadowburn when at 2 charges and Conflagrate the same is this correct? cast them when we have 2 charges?

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @SabinAlbei Thanks for the comment! Yeah you want to keep these from sitting on 2 charges. if you know you are going to need to move some you can hold on to a charge of Shadowburn so you have another instant cast while moving. For Conflagrate you get the Soul Shard generation when cast to help in keeping all of your other abilities going. It is also an instant cast you can use while on the move.

    • @SabinAlbei
      @SabinAlbei 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TwoAngryFrogs hello, thank you very much for the reply, but do I cast both of them? both charges? or do I only cast one charge, and leave one remaining? maybe now I am clearer in the question, so play with one standing, or cast both 2 Shadowburn , 2 Conflagrate into cooldown? I am trying to learn what procs backdraft and what procs eradication also to keep them up as much as possible I installed WeakAuras and imported the most used "best" HUD, it don't think it is optimal for me, I just want basic information on procs not too much clutter besides my Hekili, but i fell I will learn it anyway, and I know I was missing a lot maybe in the rotation, because I had a raid and underperformed, but now I got my gear up, and now I am doing as much research as possible.

    • @SabinAlbei
      @SabinAlbei 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TwoAngryFrogs hello, thank you very much for the reply, but do I cast both of them? both charges? or do I only cast one charge, and leave one remaining? maybe now I am clearer in the question, so play with one standing, or cast both 2 Shadowburn , 2 Conflagrate into cooldown? I am trying to learn what procs backdraft and what procs eradication also to keep them up as much as possible I installed WeakAuras and imported the most used "best" HUD, it don't think it is optimal for me, I just want basic information on procs not too much clutter besides my Hekili, but i fell I will learn it anyway, and I know I was missing a lot maybe in the rotation, because I had a raid and underperformed, but now I got my gear up, and now I am doing as much research as possible.

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SabinAlbei For Shadowburn I will typically cast one and keep one available so if Conflagration of Chaos (Row 6 talent) procs I have one available for the critical strike for Shadowburn. Conflagrate procs Backdraft which we will most of the time use for Chaos Bolt to reduce the cast time. Then Chaos Bolt and Shadowburn both proc Eradication for 7 seconds. So you have some time before you need to hit that Next Shadowburn or Chaos Bolt to keep Eradication up. We have a video for Wekauras in which I used Destro as the example. That may help. Let me know for sure. Really cool that you are digging into this. That will 100% make you a better player.

  • @sirsaxon7039
    @sirsaxon7039 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hellcaller is so dull and slow after playing Diabolist

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @sirsaxon7039 I am definitely a Diabolist fan. Love how reactive the play style is. Also Hellcaller just got stealth nerfed so not sure how bad it got hurt.

    • @anthonyzarfati3579
      @anthonyzarfati3579 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah but Malevolence and wither feel good for sure

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@anthonyzarfati3579 It looks like Hellcaller tends to be the more bursty build while Diabolist is a flatter damage profile. The one minute burst window for Hellcaller definitely drives up the damage.

    • @justinmccray5014
      @justinmccray5014 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really. The wither mechanic is extremely fulfilling when you can constantly apply wither and stacks of wither with shadowburn and rain of fire.

  • @MrNodrog518
    @MrNodrog518 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video ty

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MrNodrog518 Thank you!

  • @Desdemonique
    @Desdemonique 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you both so much for this guide, as well as for all your content! Any chance you have a recommended spec for Delve diving? :) Please keep up the great work! 💜

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Desdemonique Thank you so much! We really appreciate the support. I go Diabolist for Delves and that is also what I have seen recommended by several people.

  • @Michaelkayslay
    @Michaelkayslay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love destro but I wanna learn affliction

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Michaelkayslay We are considering more Class and Spec type videos. For us, those seem to do pretty well so we must be doing something right with those. I think ... 😂

  • @joshuasavill1874
    @joshuasavill1874 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the vid.

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @joshuasavill1874 Thanks for watching!

  • @Tommyllamadingdong
    @Tommyllamadingdong 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe this will get me through delves.

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Tommyllamadingdong With the nerfs they just made this week it sounds like it may be a bit easier. I know they did improve the Taunt for the Voidwalker so hopefully that helps because as a Tank it was pretty useless at times. Good luck!

  • @Mocca_Master
    @Mocca_Master 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Shadowburn really does make the entire spec so much less enjoyable

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @HampusNilssonUlvan It took me a bit to get used to it but I definitely like having the additional instant cast, which we severely lack for Destro. After playing it enough, I have gotten better at fitting it into the rotation.

  • @brandonweaver5910
    @brandonweaver5910 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You didn't just read the tooltips and beg for clips, you get a sub unlike 'the others'.

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @brandonweaver5910 Thank you. Much appreciated!

    • @Vincitorerose
      @Vincitorerose 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same. Most clear explanation of the hero talents and AoE/single target usage.

  • @mr.nobody5279
    @mr.nobody5279 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BUFF DESTRO

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mr.nobody5279 We have seen some over the last few weeks. Not sure we will see anything further until after they get some data from Mythic dungeons and raid.

    • @TriggaTrey361
      @TriggaTrey361 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TwoAngryFrogswhats the meta lock spec rn affliction?

    • @TwoAngryFrogs
      @TwoAngryFrogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TriggaTrey361 That I do not know. I would not trust anything yet since the only data we have is from Heroic dungeons. No Mythic+ or Raid data yet so any meta lists are purely based on sims right now, i.e. what is vest on paper.