I absolutely love the fact that other repaair logs start off with "THOU SHALT CHECK VOLTAGES"... and Luke starts off with "Let's just ram that adapter in there and switch it on..."
Luke, I enjoyed the special effects you added to the video! Honestly, the flames in the video thumbnail made me click :P I'm glad to see you are doing videos again. I look forward to the next video!
Mortal Kombat dong :) I call it the classic paperboy credit sound! Of course all of those mid 80’s Atari games had a lot of the same sound effects. Nice job Luke!
Haha, Brian, I totally hear you. The reason why I think of MK is from all of the MK boards Ive repaired over the years so it just stick in my mind as that. Thanks a lot my friend!
Merci beaucoup. Je pense que la personne précédente a pris toutes les bonnes parties et a ensuite jeté le reste. Heureusement, il n'a pas été jeté à la poubelle :)
Parabéns pelo excelente trabalho realizado na placa,eu adora essas placas antigas de arcade,principalmente essas placas hardware de um único jogo no sistema jamma,esse jogo eu não conhecia e pelo o que vi tem jeito de ser um jogo bem legal.
It filled me with joy when you pronounced ‘solder’ correctly 😂 I don’t understand why most Americans say it so wrong, I’ve never heard them complain about ‘fudders’ cluttering up their desktop 🤷🏼♂️
That ic you replaced is a 2716 eeprom, you should be able to test/erase it with an eprom burner and you might be able to use it again. I have used these to replace some 2716 eproms on old arcade pcb’s.
Your breezing these repairs Luke 👍, whoever messed with that cpu previously really needs you to give them a few lessons... or maybe they should just steer well clear of electrical repairs lol ✌️ All that dust man ... looks like it's been Off Roading in the desert 🤠
Sir, it fascinates me how critical we all are about esthetics vs practical usage absolutely amazing repair! Thank you so very much greatly appreciated!
@@spidermcgavenport8767 Thank you so much. I totally agree. If it looks horrible but works, that is really good enough in some cases. Although we would all love the have things in perfect condition and working well but if you had to choose functionality over aesthetics, Ill go for functionality every time. Thanks again!
Fantastic stuff Luke =D Shocking how bad that CPU was! BTW - is there a blue tint problem with that board still? If you look at the colours there it looks blue biased? I've just compared to footage of this game and there is a big difference! Might make for an interesting follow up!? Keep up the great videos!!!!
Thanks as always man. I dont think I had the colors dialed in on the supergun so you are probably right about that. Every time with each board just turning those pots up and down lol. good times. The mame footage of most of these boards looks much much clearer Ive noticed but its not perfect here for color, thats for sure. Hope you are doing well man
I have sound issues on space lords that is driving me nuts... and I have spare 2 non working road riot pcb which are very similar. I'll make a try swapping that chip.
I've never seen anyone do that with a CPU before. Thinking about it, it makes sense, but I guess the thinking would normally be, those pins are gone, what else might be wrong with it? Just goes to show that trying stuff can save you a lot of work sometimes. Of course, this all speaks to the fact that you've had a whole lot of experience with Arcade PCBs and can ind of figure stuff out by looking at symptoms. Ever had one go bang when you turned it on, though?
I think someone removed the good one and tossed in this one based on appearance or maybe because the pins were broke off so it didnt boot. Hard to tell I think . Luckily Ive never had a cpu pop before but I have put in a capacitor backwards and that really did pop! and spray electrolytic fluid out of the top. Pretty surprising situation. Thanks for watching!
Some people are very eager to start with replacing parts and would never have even tried this CPU but I am glad Luke saved it because there are only so many old parts in the world and we should try to make them last as long as we can. That said, I've seen repair people go so far as grinding the package of a chip (keep in mind that inside the chip, the core called the "die" is really pretty small and most of the package is just to break out the connections into the pins) and soldering to the internal connecting wires. There's a video about a Mercedes keyfob repair where the tech did exactly that. With jellybean chips that are cheap and still sold today, replace them. With bad capacitors, definitely replace them (some people save them and reuse - this really bothers me). But limited stock chips, try to reuse.
been busy but finally getting a chance to watch somma that, haha. I feel like this isn't the first time you've done a road riot 4WD? and I guess it's been a while since we saw the special effects, haha. (too funny! :P) but I love seeing the process of restoring the boards, another awesome video!
Hey Luke have you ever come around a turbografx game where there was a little hole drilled at the end of the case on the label but not all the way thru . I had a sealed blazing lazers opened it up brand new as can be and seen that , I bought it a few years ago it was totally sealed maybe a promo ? I can't find any information on it
Hey Jake man. I'm not quite sure what that might be off the top of my head. I would recommend putting up a pic on FB in the TG16/PC Engine group and see what they say about it. Im sure someone will know right away. Hope you can figure it!
I think the original sound chip may be OK as well because you did not have the sound turned up until later on in the game. PS Why do you have tape over the TV logos?
Hey Luke, I have a Pit-Fighter pcb and the top 3 and 4 scores are being erased when I turn it off. They go bsck to 0 (zero) when I turn the pcb back on. The scores 1 to 4 should keep recorded, while the scores from 5 to 10 go back to their default values. Do you know what could I do to fix this one? I don't know which chips stores the first 4 scores. Thanks!!
I don't see why not. The Jaguar had a 68k (plus the Tom+Jerry). The code would probably need to change a bit, but I bet it would've been an easy port. Jaguar ran the 68k around 13MHz but as long as this board didn't run it at 16 or 20 MHz it should be easy. If they DID run it at those speeds, they might need to optimize the code, remove something, or port some of it to run on Tom+Jerry. Given this game is 1991 (according to what TH-cam is saying under the video anyway), it's probably running more in the range of 8 to 12MHz I'd think. (Edit: I just saw another commenter saying this board runs at 12MHz) A lot of Jaguar games did wind up running on the 68k because many developers did not want to learn to use T+J (or were not given enough time to learn it).
Thats a good guess but no, Ken, is ....Ken lol. A really close friend and all around great guy. Joel, is another awesome friend and great guy as well. Just some very passionate people in the arcade world who try to preserve these old boards.
I do clean the boards, yes. Simple Green, a paint brush, and a sink. Putting it in front of a fan afterwards for a few hours over a couple of days and they look good again!
Have road riot pcb missing a few chips. Can you tell me what kind of chip 14F, 17N and 15m. Looked in mame not seeing the rom. Also there are 3 empty socks under the sound PCB and one at 11D. Intentionally blank? At this point board has a blank screen. Thx!
I absolutely love the fact that other repaair logs start off with "THOU SHALT CHECK VOLTAGES"... and Luke starts off with "Let's just ram that adapter in there and switch it on..."
Going against the grain :)
Yes way! Yes way!
Wild man, living on the edge for sure.
Luke, I enjoyed the special effects you added to the video! Honestly, the flames in the video thumbnail made me click :P I'm glad to see you are doing videos again. I look forward to the next video!
Haha, thanks for that my friend. Just a bit of some messing around here. Glad that you are still checking the vids :) hope you are doing well
Maaaan, that is the craziest repair job I've seen. Let's plunk some random pieces of metal on this cpu and huzaa! It works! Amazing dude..just nuts.
Haha, you know how I roll here. Wild and unscripted lol. Thanks as always!
Man, dont stop to do repairs videos, I love to see them
Thanks a lot! Ill keep going with them as long as I am able to resurrect the ones I have lol.
Mortal Kombat dong :) I call it the classic paperboy credit sound! Of course all of those mid 80’s Atari games had a lot of the same sound effects. Nice job Luke!
Haha, Brian, I totally hear you. The reason why I think of MK is from all of the MK boards Ive repaired over the years so it just stick in my mind as that. Thanks a lot my friend!
Love my Road Riot 4WD Side-by-side! We have had tons of fun with it.
Luke’s videos double up as ASMR, brilliant stuff
Haha, some people would say they cause more stress than relaxation but Im glad for those who enjoy them. Thank again my friend!
Étonnant ces pattes de puces pliées 🤔 comme si l’ancien propriétaire avait voulu créer une panne 😉 Merci pour le partage ✌️🕹
Merci beaucoup. Je pense que la personne précédente a pris toutes les bonnes parties et a ensuite jeté le reste. Heureusement, il n'a pas été jeté à la poubelle :)
Reminds me very much of buggy boy.
Great video
Ouuuh, Nice one! totally forgot about that game. Thanks a lot my friend
lovin this string of repair vids. good stuff
Thank you so much. Keeping them from the landfill here, one board at a time.
Nice easy fix. The first effect surprised me, I thought it was real dust for a fraction of a second 😂
Haha, it worked out quite well with the dusty board for sure. Thanks a lot
The 68000 CPU on Atari G42 boards is 12MHz.
28C16s are no longer made in DIP but a 28C64 can be used in its place with a bit of hackery.
Awesome info! thanks for that. Really interesting stuff and hopefully also useful for others here
Doctor Lukemorse1 Videogames and PCB MD does it yet again 👍👌
Another classic arcade board saved from Death's Dumpster 😎
knock, knock, knockin' on dumpster dooor! lol. Thanks as always Cahos!
Also @09:18
You forgot "Strange TH-cam Subscriber" as I am definitely one of your Strange Subscribers LOL
Parabéns pelo excelente trabalho realizado na placa,eu adora essas placas antigas de arcade,principalmente essas placas hardware de um único jogo no sistema jamma,esse jogo eu não conhecia e pelo o que vi tem jeito de ser um jogo bem legal.
Muito obrigado e fico feliz que tenha gostado do vídeo. É um jogo interessante e felizmente este está funcionando novamente. Tomar cuidado
Those special effects had me do a double take. Didn't expect that at all. lol
Haha, I thought Id throw in a bit of some silliness. Like "Why is the cpu on fire!!" Thanks as always man, really appreciate you checking the vids
It filled me with joy when you pronounced ‘solder’ correctly 😂 I don’t understand why most Americans say it so wrong, I’ve never heard them complain about ‘fudders’ cluttering up their desktop 🤷🏼♂️
Lol, you have to forgive us, we are still learning. Thanks a lot for watching Greg!
@@lukemorse1 great content as ever, thanks Luke 👍🏻
Great repair!
Thanks a lot! really appreciate it
Nice. Time to another fix.
Thanks Qki. Yes, on to the next board now!
That ic you replaced is a 2716 eeprom, you should be able to test/erase it with an eprom burner and you might be able to use it again. I have used these to replace some 2716 eproms on old arcade pcb’s.
Thanks Patrick. Ive found that this particular brand dies out when it goes but that could be an option for sure!
Your breezing these repairs Luke 👍, whoever messed with that cpu previously really needs you to give them a few lessons... or maybe they should just steer well clear of electrical repairs lol ✌️
All that dust man ... looks like it's been Off Roading in the desert 🤠
Haha, I know right :) this board has been on a Road Riot of its own. Glad that it is going again and thanks as always man.
Outstanding Sir!
Sir, it fascinates me how critical we all are about esthetics vs practical usage absolutely amazing repair! Thank you so very much greatly appreciated!
@@spidermcgavenport8767 Thank you so much. I totally agree. If it looks horrible but works, that is really good enough in some cases. Although we would all love the have things in perfect condition and working well but if you had to choose functionality over aesthetics, Ill go for functionality every time. Thanks again!
I can't believe some people can squash pins like that on a chip!!
Hopefully, the good old 68000 is a tough guy!! ;-)
Yeah, I think it was just tossed in there when the better looking one was taken lol. The 68000 is a tough cookie for sure.
awesome luke thank you for still making vids
Thank you for checking out these wild and crazy vids lol. Much appreciated.
you are on fire Luke! :)
Thanks man! so was my 68000 lol :) hope you are doing well
Fantastic stuff Luke =D Shocking how bad that CPU was! BTW - is there a blue tint problem with that board still? If you look at the colours there it looks blue biased? I've just compared to footage of this game and there is a big difference! Might make for an interesting follow up!? Keep up the great videos!!!!
Thanks as always man. I dont think I had the colors dialed in on the supergun so you are probably right about that. Every time with each board just turning those pots up and down lol. good times. The mame footage of most of these boards looks much much clearer Ive noticed but its not perfect here for color, thats for sure. Hope you are doing well man
Are you kidding Me..hahaha ..congrats Luke..cant believe it was so easy for you. Now clean up the board an let's play some of that .
Haha! sometimes its nice to fix these boards that dont need a ton of work. Thanks as always Kevin!
I want to know how much whisky the guy who originally damaged that CPU had drank. Talk about crimes against electronics!
Lol, just looking at the top of the 68000 it has been sitting somewhere for quite some time thats for sure.
Amazing pcb Luke ! 👏🏻
Thanks a lot AlexUnder Base
Luke, you’re a madman! Lol
LOL, I would tend to agree with that. Thanks as always my friend :)
I have sound issues on space lords that is driving me nuts... and I have spare 2 non working road riot pcb which are very similar. I'll make a try swapping that chip.
Yeah, swap out that chip, go into test mode, set the sound level, then save, and finally restart and you should be good to go! best of luck to you
I've never seen anyone do that with a CPU before. Thinking about it, it makes sense, but I guess the thinking would normally be, those pins are gone, what else might be wrong with it?
Just goes to show that trying stuff can save you a lot of work sometimes.
Of course, this all speaks to the fact that you've had a whole lot of experience with Arcade PCBs and can ind of figure stuff out by looking at symptoms.
Ever had one go bang when you turned it on, though?
I think someone removed the good one and tossed in this one based on appearance or maybe because the pins were broke off so it didnt boot. Hard to tell I think . Luckily Ive never had a cpu pop before but I have put in a capacitor backwards and that really did pop! and spray electrolytic fluid out of the top. Pretty surprising situation. Thanks for watching!
Some people are very eager to start with replacing parts and would never have even tried this CPU but I am glad Luke saved it because there are only so many old parts in the world and we should try to make them last as long as we can. That said, I've seen repair people go so far as grinding the package of a chip (keep in mind that inside the chip, the core called the "die" is really pretty small and most of the package is just to break out the connections into the pins) and soldering to the internal connecting wires. There's a video about a Mercedes keyfob repair where the tech did exactly that.
With jellybean chips that are cheap and still sold today, replace them. With bad capacitors, definitely replace them (some people save them and reuse - this really bothers me). But limited stock chips, try to reuse.
Great fix
Once again Tony, Thanks for the continued support my friend, it means a lot
@@lukemorse1 yw
0:00 looks like robot auschuitz
been busy but finally getting a chance to watch somma that, haha. I feel like this isn't the first time you've done a road riot 4WD? and I guess it's been a while since we saw the special effects, haha. (too funny! :P) but I love seeing the process of restoring the boards, another awesome video!
Hey Luke have you ever come around a turbografx game where there was a little hole drilled at the end of the case on the label but not all the way thru . I had a sealed blazing lazers opened it up brand new as can be and seen that , I bought it a few years ago it was totally sealed maybe a promo ? I can't find any information on it
Hey Jake man. I'm not quite sure what that might be off the top of my head. I would recommend putting up a pic on FB in the TG16/PC Engine group and see what they say about it. Im sure someone will know right away. Hope you can figure it!
That was indeed sometimes done for promos / bundled items.
Never played this, but I saw there was also a SNES release so maybe I can try that version.
Funny thing, Ive never played the SNES version so that is some good information! something for me to check out as well.
I think the original sound chip may be OK as well because you did not have the sound turned up until later on in the game. PS Why do you have tape over the TV logos?
Hey Luke, I have a Pit-Fighter pcb and the top 3 and 4 scores are being erased when I turn it off. They go bsck to 0 (zero) when I turn the pcb back on. The scores 1 to 4 should keep recorded, while the scores from 5 to 10 go back to their default values. Do you know what could I do to fix this one? I don't know which chips stores the first 4 scores. Thanks!!
So what I learned was if the pins are bent - or are missing one reverses that and then machines will work. Wow, No way.
Sorry, ignore my comment, you were running a different level.
Hi Luke,
Another great video and a question to ask , could Atari have made a port/conversion of Road Riot for the Atari Jaguar?
I don't see why not. The Jaguar had a 68k (plus the Tom+Jerry). The code would probably need to change a bit, but I bet it would've been an easy port. Jaguar ran the 68k around 13MHz but as long as this board didn't run it at 16 or 20 MHz it should be easy. If they DID run it at those speeds, they might need to optimize the code, remove something, or port some of it to run on Tom+Jerry. Given this game is 1991 (according to what TH-cam is saying under the video anyway), it's probably running more in the range of 8 to 12MHz I'd think. (Edit: I just saw another commenter saying this board runs at 12MHz)
A lot of Jaguar games did wind up running on the 68k because many developers did not want to learn to use T+J (or were not given enough time to learn it).
Is Ken6275 Joel from Lastgamer?
no, he's American. th-cam.com/users/kenn6275
Hey Floyd, love the Xbox work.
Thats a good guess but no, Ken, is ....Ken lol. A really close friend and all around great guy. Joel, is another awesome friend and great guy as well. Just some very passionate people in the arcade world who try to preserve these old boards.
Do you ever attempt to clean boards? If so, how?
I do clean the boards, yes. Simple Green, a paint brush, and a sink. Putting it in front of a fan afterwards for a few hours over a couple of days and they look good again!
@@lukemorse1 "Simple Green" must be a USA thing... not sure what would be the UK equivalent
You jammy........ :D
That cpu is in really bad shape
It sure is. Really crazy that it still worked to be honest. Thanks a million as always!
Have road riot pcb missing a few chips. Can you tell me what kind of chip 14F, 17N and 15m. Looked in mame not seeing the rom. Also there are 3 empty socks under the sound PCB and one at 11D. Intentionally blank? At this point board has a blank screen. Thx!