How to REALLY learn an ancient language in 2024
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- I'm back for real this time(!) with a video where I condense two years of teaching and learning ancient languages into just 20 minutes. Here are my top 11 tips for anyone learning a dead language in 2024.
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Εὖ γε!! Great job, mīn freond!
Whattttttt. I didn’t know these two worlds overlapped
I'm learning middle Persian at the moment. It was spoken from 300BC to 800AD.
Beautiful! I may dabble a little in Old Persian next year myself if I can scrounge together the time
tldr;
1:00 1) You're probably not spending enough time learning the language.
2:18 2) You're probably not reading enough.
3:02 3) You likely won't feel your progress as you go.
4:51 4) Rereading is your friend.
6:55 5) Benefits of a guide programme.
7:44 6) Know when to make the transition to authentic texts.
10:30 7) Include extensive and intensive reading.
12:18 8) What makes a text easy or hard is primarily vocabulary.
13:35 9) Read with audio if you can find it. If you can't find it, make it.
15:52 10) Become okay with different pronunciation systems.
17:43 11) Keep your reason for learning the language close.
Gods bless
Thank you.
>youre not reading enough
>(one of the) most liked komments is a "Too Long Didnt Read"
You are a mensch, thank you!
@@ColinGorrie nope, just autistic
Cool. First time on the channel. I am a Latin teacher and I try to incorporate most of your tips to my students. We track their minutes read and recommend a minimum of 100 minutes a week.
I have a wide variety of free reading books in Latin and send them videos and audio in Latin. Sadly tip 11 is the hardest to implement since it is a mandatory class.
Amazing! Even that small habit of tracking can make a huge difference in motivation and in consistency. And after reading 100 words a week after a year, those students will be doing so well - and who knows, they may find their motivation in one of those texts
is Osweald Bera going to have an audio recording of the text available as well?
Great video! Can’t wait for Osweald Bera.
This was great. Thank you for the tips!
youre back!
So much good advice
Thanks for this. You are giving some solid advice here. 💜🖤
Welcome back!!!! ♡♡♡ You look amazing ❤
Coliiiiiiiin is baaaaaack!!!
Great points. For Latin, Legentibus has an amazing collection of readings (with texts) with beautiful clear pronunciation. Alsop a lot of amazing Internet resources, like Satura Lanx, and MusaPedestris. Way harder to find good Greek audio, with a pleasing pronunciation...
When it comes to reading authentic materials, it would have been interesting to hear you discuss a bit various ways of "bridging the gap", from bilingual readers, to heavily annotated readers, to things like Dolphin-editions which are annotated in the source language.
Those are great Latin resources -would that we were so spoilt for choice with any other ancient language.
Bridging the gap is tough - probably worth a video of its own!
I've been doing Classical Chinese for a while and your description of getting bored because of the pedagogical texts but trying to read real material and not being able to go through it is really true for my modern Chinese. I made the switch because I will be learning hanzi either way and there are more texts I'm interested in reading in Classical that don't feel completely out of reach. I was using the Vogelsang textbook and reading the example sentences there but as good as the book is the book is very dry as it is very grammar focused. I'm going through a textbook designed for reading poetry and it is definetly not as intense? But I'm also reading the three character classic on the sidelines, because I also wanna actually read. I think Vogelsang helped me a lot with that because a lot of vocab and historical context to make sense of the book is explained there. Sadly I can't find an audio recording that is read by an adult and the version of the text I own (there are several variations that were passed sown). It is cool that due to the character system this language has a tradition of authentic texts for teaching children how to read it, it could be considered an authentic text since it was written when Literary Chinese was employed in literature.
You’re back!!
Nicely done. I made a similar video within the context of studying Literary Chinese for the reading of Buddhist texts. It's good to know that my experiences are common across the board.
I look forward to checking out your video! 文言文 is a longstanding, if currently dormant, interest of mine
YOU'RE BACK!
Looking forward to the bear book!!
Great video, Colin!
Thanks, James!
I think #10 is particularly important. There is quite a bit of good audio for reconstructed Latin that I have failed to take advantage of because I prefer ecclesiastical myself. There is a real shortage of audio material for Ancient Greek though, in any pronunciation.
thanks for sharing this
Huzzah!
the title of the video nails it. I am an linguist that specializez in ancient language. hope that I can get a reply from you after this reach out of mine. hope that we can find a way to do things together.
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2 questions. Would you ever make a playlist of good TH-cam videos that are good for old English pronunciation. And given that old English has a clear set of original material would you make a free reading order sheet? Say starting with Oswald, Sweets, etc. like the Greek list you are using.
Need to buy bear book 🥵
I already speak an ancient language its called ancient British or Welsh same thing its about 3000 years older than English 😊
Recte docuisti, O Magister doctissime antiquae linguae anglicae!
Any advice from anyone on what grammar, textbook, etc. to start with Attic Greek?
Hi John, Colin mentions my own recommendation in a video of mine linked in the description of the above video, called the Ranieri-Roberts Approach to Ancient Greek. All of books mentioned there, with the partial exception of Logos, Alexandros, and Mythologica, aim to teach you Attic Greek. Definitely see that video to get an idea of what the issues are with answering your excellent question in a clear and decisive way. They're all good to start with, though. Once you get to be more than just a beginner, Reading Greek is great to take you through intermediate level stages of reading.
@polyMATHY_Luke I concur completely!
holy hell
Maith thú!
I mean "you hav not read enuf".
you're reading not enough