Outrageous! I get Lamelo wasnt having a great game but he comes ALIVE in the 4th. LET HIM PLAY and if we lose we lose, let Lamelo GROW AND FIGURE IT OUT.
He let him play in the 4th and he immediately took stupid shots and made stupid fouls. He's the franchise player, but you can't let him walk all over you and do stupid shit if you are the coach.
@@Teddzworththere’s nothing to disagree with. LaMelo has made the same bonehead decisions he made as a rookie, and not once has he been ahead accountable.
This is going to comeback to haunt Lee , Lamelo already been through this with the first Hornets coach. I bet when it’s basically confirmed that Lamelo is an all star again you will see retaliation from him. Lee you don’t have the talent and horses to go against Lamelo especially later in the season when every team will grow hungrier for wins. Trust me Lamelo will remember this and play the long game with this coach.
You have a player who only knows "how to ball" loves ball ,only wants to ball and has a style of playground basketball that often leads to bad 30 feet 3 pointers and frustration fouls when turns to ball over vs a coach who loves to teach ,believes in fundamental play, team play and wants to build a "culture of that belief. You hear that in his press conferences never giving single praise to one player. He has to find a balance in teaching a understanding this isn't Milwaukee or boston with a history of winning, This is a organization that needs wins .
Tre Mann is a defensive liability. He was dominated 1v1 three of four possessions in the closing minutes resulting in 3 layups & two and ones. He also committed an offensive foul resulting in a TO and only 1 basket for 2 points on 5 attempts in the closing minutes. (3x of these were same possession offensive rebound) Great Job Coach!
They going to end up like the Panthers, they going to miss him. Like they missed Cam. Melo is bigger than they imagine. Melo is a generational talent. But this is the same franchise that traded Kobe and said they couldn't use him so I'm not surprised
I think the point could've been proven without sitting him the whole rest of the game, hated the decision but let's see how everyone responds now. It was possible to defend certain critiques of Lee and give him a grace period but he's playing with fire on that. Here's to hoping LaMelo drops a 40 ball on thursday and everyone can move past it quickly
Odd this happend in a Nationally televised game....the NBA is trying to SUPPRESS lamelo they don't want him to be a star. Melo can't get a call Refs let him hit the floor 20 times a game at the rim just no respect he's going to get hurt again bc teams know they can rough him up and nothing so they will just keep fouling him harder. I don't blame Melo for being frustrated it unreal the lack of calls for a player of his caliber but I think they know he would avg 35+ points a game if he got a fair whistle. Can you imagine Luka Doncic getting benched 4th quarter and he takes tons of so called bad shots and makes stupid fouls and chirps at the Refs WAY more then Lamelo...he also has bad stretches of gameplay just like every player ever but you dont bench Lamelo. This is crazy Lamleo makes plays nobody in the world can make. And look at the team they have around him...Imagine if they had a decent Center For Melo to Drop dimes to on his way to the rim and you have Taj FREAKING GIBSON 40 years old wtf and he sits out so you have Grant Williams who cant finish a single layup assist from Melo...this is a joke no wonder he can at times take a bad shot or two what other option does he have and most of the time he puts the team on his back in the 4th leading NBA in scoring.
He’s performed at every level he’s played at, and he plays to the level of his comp. With a better team he’s the face of the league with Luka, Tatum, Ja, and Ant
You guys are truly amazing. I realize you’re in the entertainment industry and have to create and discuss controversial subjects. But to sit here and listen how much more you know than Charles Lee it’s truly amazing. If you have ever coached at any level, and that includes the NBA with it politics, as you say, some things do not change. Great coaches affect change in their players. The issues you guys have had with the previous coach and staffs were that they were not assertive enough with LaMelo Ball and now you get a coach who actually doing what he’s paid to do and that’s bring out the best in his players And your questioning that. Anyway, it’s amusing how often sports commentators are wrong and there breakdown of what is going on with a team and behind the scenes and when they’re predictions and insights, do not pan out they just go onto the next prediction. Weatherman are held more accountable than sports commentators! Love you guys. Give Coach a break and support him a little love for not playing games with his players and doing what is right.
In my opinion, you live and die with your star player, I don't really get Lee benching Melo in the last 4 minutes, you want to teach him a lesson, fine, get him out of the game, and bring him back in the last 2 minutes... Hopefully there are no major consequences in the future and everyone can move forward, but from the outside it doesn't look good for either the coach or the player, even the players that stayed in the court seemed surprised about the change. One thing for sure, Charles Lee have some COJONES to do what he did last night, and I hope that the team continue to buy in, the result yesterday did not went well with his decision. One last Thing, Hornets have demonstrated a decent competitive level for most of the games, despite going through injuries.
Duncan Robinson recently said in a podcast that "Culture is just an extension of your best player". Lamelo was making poor decisions, playing lazy defense, had just taken awful shots and committed a take foul 90 feet from the basket. NONE of which are winning habits that Jeff Peterson and Charles Lee have been preaching from day 1. This was a culture benching and I'm 100% for it.
I also think that for the foul part, Charles also need to speak at press conference about the lack of calls his players get. It will maybe help them feeling backed and help with the frustration.
This is just one example but, Coach Lee is supposed to be this defensive mind3d coach while the Nets are over here pressing every play, while the Hornets made no adjustment defensively (or offensively). He tried to prove a point by benching Lamelo for that foul, even though Charles has been one of the worst defensive coaches in the league…how are the players supposed to trust this dude. Have any hornets players been called for a press-foul? I don’t think so…and that flustered the Hornets, like that’s pretty simple stuff…A lot of things Lee and the coaching staff need to figure out
@ not putting him in for that last play is unacceptable. you don’t sacrifice a win (in a tournament) to prove a point. Take him out, whatever, but put him back in when you have a chance to tie the game with a three..
If he wanted to bench Melo for 2 or 3 minutes fine but the rest of game from the 5 minute mark is terrible coaching because it shows you don’t care about winning instead you care about making a point. which is fine but you ain’t gonna be a head coach in the NBA long this is a players league thru and thru
You think the Lakers would play him a fortune to join and play like he does here?Absolutely ZERO chance. He gets full freedom here, but it needs to be handled better. Lots of room to grow.
Diabate only got 15 minutes. I want everyone to look up his +/-. That alone should make everyone question Charles' decision making. I'm not opposed to him benching Melo for those silly fouls so he can prove his point, but there's been far too many times that his other decision making has been questionable at best.
Everybody trolling saying he deserved it are average hater’s. Y’all love official authority so much but disregard the fact that a lot of NBA players thought it was dumb also.
Let’s be real he didn’t even give LaMelo enough time to play in the fourth quarter. He gave him literally 3 1/2 minutes. He brought him in at the 720 mark and expect him to go off for three minutes then sit him down because of a foul stop I think Charles Lee is trying to prove something that he can win without LaMelo Ball, which he can’t
I mean Charles was last working under Joe Mazzulla who is known to bench his entire starting 5 if he isn't happy with the effort they're bringing, even if it results in a loss. Not very Mazzulla-like in the postgame though lol
That just proves that he´s not really seen as the franchise player. I really get the frustration around the lapses in Lamelo’s game but it’s not fair to treat him like that when he play without a center in an horrible offensive system
Just trade him because Charlotte undervalues him all the time he’s been on a tear an benching your franchise player for a whole fourth quarter is not a great coaching decision an still losing to prove a point is egocentric
Dalton Knecht......I commented several times before the draft on this LOH channel and so many casuals said I was dead wrong. He'd be nothing. The Hornets missed on this pick IMO
@@B3GINNER defense is what the team sorely lacks. 3&D to be specific. Scoring will come for TJ and his physical specs will turn into defensive production. But you are right. This is all speculative.
How is everyone so shortsighted with the LaMelo benching? He committed a frustration foul 80ft from the basket in a one pt game with 5 mins left in the game! At what point is LaMelo going to start acting like a 5th year player and not a rookie?! Not making shots isn’t a big deal. Brandon Miller was cold af for 3 straight games and still got playing time. LaMelo got benched so Charles Lee could send a message that nobody is above the team, and if you hurt the team you won’t play.
And they lost the game because of that you wonder where people are at when is 3 minutes left on the clock when it's 4 minutes left on the clock when it's 5 minutes left on the clock and your team hasn't progressed from the decision you made no matter what they were winning this game until they wasn't and lamelo could have been a go to guy in the clutch t Mann is great but not Melo especially in the 4th quarter I get where the coach is coming from by teaching discipline but that was a stupid decision because the team lost at the end
When will Lamelo learn not to make stupid frustration fouls? He's no longer a big fish in a small pond and no longer on Daddy's high school team. Grow the f up Lamelo and act professional. You can't be the franchise player and never grow up. Charles Lee is only doing what Lavar, Borego, Clifford, etc should have done. What team is going to pay someone max money if that player can't control their emotions? Would a serious team want to depend on Lamelo in the finals if he's unpredictable? No way. Lamelo and Charlotte are stuck with each other until he grows up so if he wants to do stupid stuff and sit on the bench then that's his choice. Do you think the rest of the team isn't sick of the stupid fouls? Don't you think Lamelo has already been cussed out a thousand times on the bus, locker room, etc? That clearly doesn't work with him. He needs to be sat down and if he wants out because he was benched for one quarter then bye bye.
This made me like Coach Lee. I was a lil eh about him but now I’m sold. Eventually lamelo has to grow up as a leader, these same issues we talk about, the frustration fouls, the bad shots, the reaching all game and being a cone defensively…we have talked about since he was drafted. At some point a coach needs to coach him tough to break bad habits and I’m glad to see we got one willing to do what it takes. Lamelo has the talent to be the best in the league, it’s the discipline and mindset that he is missing. Even lamelo should look at this like man this guy really wants me to be successful
Lee will look like the bad guy because he is unproven as a HC. He's not Phil Jackson in the Pippen/Kukoc controversy. AND his decision didn't result in a win.
There is so much to dissect here because this isn’t as black and white as it seems. I understand what Lee is trying to do but at the same time it’s a bit unfair to lamelo when you see how the franchise has built the roster around him. Lamelo needs a true vet in the locker room taj Gibson is not it. Imagine if we had a Derozan type vet. Or when we had IT someone like that could help with lamelo and teach that way because now we have put Lee in this position and makes him the “bad guy”. I understand what Lee is trying to do but that loss goes on him not lamelo. If lamelo is as coachable as they say I believe it’ll pay off. But the impatient fan in me is tired of waiting lol I somehow blame mark williams for all this! If we have centers half our problems go away! If you read this far thanks for seeing my rant
Nobody is going to want Ball until he grows up and learns from his mistakes, especially with his max contract. He is a baller and makes fantastic plays but he has got to grow up and play smart team basketball.
Charles Lee is a horrible coach, yes I said it who benches their best players , the most clutch player in the entire NBA at that and then you draw up a shot for Brandon Miller who is not clutch at all 🤦♂️ , even if Melo had a bad game I’d trust him to take that shot
I’m in the Uk, I watched the highlights on my train to work in the morning. I was SHIT SCARED lamelo was injured as he wasn’t visible in q4 and it didn’t pick up on the highlights. So thankful he was fit but wow 20 something minutes maybe one off game from Charles Lee but come on that was not a justified move!!! Lamelo has to play. Are we tanking? I’ll let Charles off as I think he’s great but he screwed up here
At what point are fans going to start holding Lamelo accountable? He needs to grow up! This is his third HC, yall gonna keep blaming the coach when your franchise player plays poorly and can’t stop with the frustration fouls and TO’s?
Maybe Lee is just trying to make a point, he’s the boss and even if Melo is extraordinary, this is a team sport. There’s a lot of behind the scenes play by play situations with coach and players us watching the game won’t know.
Yall asking LaMelo to go through adversity & take accountability for his mistakes when he hasn’t had to do that his WHOLE ENTIRE BASKETBALL LIFE??? He probably asked for a trade after the game, if not by next week. He ain’t built that way. And there’s nobody in management nor coaches that have his respect enough to check him. 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Let Charles Lee coach this team.. The players have to be held accountable in order to get the desired results.. LaMelo should be pissed & ready to take this thing by the neck.. Enough of that happy baller $hit.. Get some wins & respect in the league, he to good for all that cute $hit...
@Chineseguyfromtwitter That should be an option for this franchise.. However, they're a hardheaded bunch.. I'm a fan but I want the Hornets to win more than I want to see him play..
Sorry, but yall sound you have small market insecurities. If this was LA, NYC, or Boston, then it’s “a message to the Star.” If Lamelo can’t change, and demands a trade over this, then that horrible behavior by a star. Lamelo is incredible, but he cost them the game, not Lee. When Stephen Silas was coaching the Rockets the young players were just fucking around making mistakes and he had a quote of something like “they have to learn, I can’t just take them out…” and he got replaced with Ime Udoka, who has flipped that team around with mainly the same team. If yall want to contend there needs to be messages like this that tells the team nobody is above being benched. This is a culture shift, and the team will learn more from this loss, more than if the team won if Lamelo had stayed in. The loss sucks for the fans, but if Lamelo takes his “Ball” and goes elsewhere, then he’s truly not a superstar that will lead the team.
This thing started with the Slur that Lamelo said. Lee chastised his star publicly. It was a mistake, but they acted like it was World War 3! When Ant did the same thing or Jokic the coach said nothing. The story no one even really talked about it. You could tell Lamelo wasn’t into the game at the beginning. And didnt have a good game. But this happens with players they can turn it on whenever. Coach robbed him of that right. It has nothing to do with fouls or bad shot selection. Lamelo has kept them in games when they shouldn’t , with one of the worst rosters in the league. He has played when others have sat out. He has spent 5 years in Charlotte really carrying the franchise. The coach has growing to do, it maybe best to let him go
Coach is tanking the team. Or incompetent. I choose to believe he's tanking them. I have enough of a sample size of asinine rotations to make the call. Moussa is the best defender and watching his playing time dissipate. Tank job.
If you mentally lose melo, you set your organization back another 5 years as you will never receive adequate compensation for him leaving the team, or refusing to conform and play. I am interested to see how this situation is salvaged, as the damage is done, and I hope Melo takes it neutral/positive and not negative as that will be the downfall.
This was one of the worst games I've seen them play in a while. There was sloppy ball handling and passing resulting in numerous turnovers and poor shot selection. Can't remember another nba team that can't inbound the ball. Melo was taking poor shots and the ball wasn't moving on the offense. He also spends too much time barking at the officials over no calls. Lee's decision to play a small ball line up forgoing rim protection and rebounding makes no sense when you getting eaten alive offensively and defensively on the glass.
Nah the 4th was t the problem they scored 37 in the first then fell apart from there they should have absolutely smashed the nets all the damn missed shots and what 20 plus turnovers come the fuck on stop with the spaz shots and stop dribbling like micic
Stupid coach move. He must want to get his young ass fired. Mann missed several shot and his defense sucked. Stupid stupid stupid stupid!!!!! Fans will stop watching you do that shit again!
That take foul is why he got benched. The emotional control lemelo ball doesn’t have is a problem. I just wished he would have said that durring the press conference, but I get it. The team probably wouldn’t let him say what he needed to. If he can’t learn from this, as much of I love his play, a championship team can’t be built onto an immature lead.
Yall should feel lucky to have a coach that’s willing to make a move like this. There’s a difference between having a cold shooting night and making horrible decisions. Lamelo can be great but nobody should be immune to the bench if they’re selling the game with lazy decisions
Lamelo is the best 4th qtr SCOERER rn. Coach took him out because tre Mann shows way more effort on defense. If you don't punish him he's going to keep doing what he want especially because he's a superstar. Great decision on the coach. Mold him into a better player
This action by the coach was at best disingenuous , and, I also feel it was premeditated. Lamelo the star of a team with zero low post presence for the entirety of his young career was off to a really good start and was relegated to the bench from the 9 minute mark of the first quarter to north of the six minute mark of the second quarter. In real time he was on the bench for greater than 20 minutes while the team struggled getting the ball up court. I do not think this ends well.
LaMelo’s game needs to mature. Every game does not have to be a street ball game. As a PG he needs to learn how to control games with IQ and not focus so much on flash. I rather him lead the NBA in assists vs. scoring.
LaMelo did put up a bad shot super early in the clock and then immediately committed a terrible foul so I get benching him but not for the whole 4th Q - that was just dumb on the staff's part
Melo has a tendency to lose his head when shot isn't falling. Also that foul was 100% worth being pulled for, it was careless. We need our leader to be disciplined and playing within a system. He can't BE the system. That won't allow us to grow into a winning team.
When it comes to being a coach . You have to take a stand and draw your line in the sand. Lamelo is never going to be an all NBA player and win in the playoffs if he doesn’t become at least an Average defender without fouling. He doesn’t have to be an elite defender but he at least needs to be average on that end. Phil Jackson had to take a stand with Michael Jordan earlier in his coaching career and they won 6 championships IF Hornets want to be Elite, they got to hold guys accountable Draw the line in the sand
Melo was doing dumb stuff. He’s had bad coaching and develop a lot of bad habits. Regardless of the fourth quarter numbers the team has a losing record and for the team to improve he has to eliminate the simple AAU mistakes. If he learns and improve they’ll be fine otherwise it shows he just the typical immature player.
You can't win basketball games jacking up 3 pointers as soon as you get past half court. You got to play in structure. Just because you get your numbers, you are still affecting the team. Kobe had to learn that, Iverson never did. You win championships as a team. Structured offence, solid defense. He is building something. Lamelo needs to get on board. This man has multiple championships. He wants to build it the right way.
Serious question: Do the Hornets run offensive sets and have X/O plays? Or do they run it YMCA pick up style?
It's all freestyle ball
YMCA pick up
The question we all ask, especially after watching last night.
Just shooting 3s
You gotta take into consideration lamelos confidence going forward, bad move by the coach
Great Charles Lee bench one of the best players in the entire league and cost us a win that was a genius move
Listen. If the ownership just wants Brandon Miller to take over the team. They can just say that and trade LaMelo. Goodluck.
Trade him to Houston for Jalen Green and picks 😊
@@lloyd2daworld I hope you kidding.
He needs to go to the LA Clippers and change that teams trajectory 🔥
@@DontheCanadian-yv9sh Lamelo my favorite player but Rockets my team. 😁
@@DontheCanadian-yv9sh though I would love it if he went to LA. He would actually start getting 10 foul shots a game
Outrageous! I get Lamelo wasnt having a great game but he comes ALIVE in the 4th. LET HIM PLAY and if we lose we lose, let Lamelo GROW AND FIGURE IT OUT.
Wrong. 4 years of no discipline gets you here. Time for a different approach.
Agree to disagree. @@fordebritt
He let him play in the 4th and he immediately took stupid shots and made stupid fouls. He's the franchise player, but you can't let him walk all over you and do stupid shit if you are the coach.
@@Teddzworththere’s nothing to disagree with. LaMelo has made the same bonehead decisions he made as a rookie, and not once has he been ahead accountable.
Facts @@sakthithanigai5036
This is going to comeback to haunt Lee , Lamelo already been through this with the first Hornets coach. I bet when it’s basically confirmed that Lamelo is an all star again you will see retaliation from him. Lee you don’t have the talent and horses to go against Lamelo especially later in the season when every team will grow hungrier for wins. Trust me Lamelo will remember this and play the long game with this coach.
You have a player who only knows "how to ball" loves ball ,only wants to ball and has a style of playground basketball that often leads to bad 30 feet 3 pointers and frustration fouls when turns to ball over vs a coach who loves to teach ,believes in fundamental play, team play and wants to build a "culture of that belief. You hear that in his press conferences never giving single praise to one player. He has to find a balance in teaching a understanding this isn't Milwaukee or boston with a history of winning, This is a organization that needs wins .
Tre Mann is a defensive liability. He was dominated 1v1 three of four possessions in the closing minutes resulting in 3 layups & two and ones. He also committed an offensive foul resulting in a TO and only 1 basket for 2 points on 5 attempts in the closing minutes. (3x of these were same possession offensive rebound)
Great Job Coach!
They going to end up like the Panthers, they going to miss him. Like they missed Cam. Melo is bigger than they imagine. Melo is a generational talent.
But this is the same franchise that traded Kobe and said they couldn't use him so I'm not surprised
I think the point could've been proven without sitting him the whole rest of the game, hated the decision but let's see how everyone responds now. It was possible to defend certain critiques of Lee and give him a grace period but he's playing with fire on that. Here's to hoping LaMelo drops a 40 ball on thursday and everyone can move past it quickly
Odd this happend in a Nationally televised game....the NBA is trying to SUPPRESS lamelo they don't want him to be a star. Melo can't get a call Refs let him hit the floor 20 times a game at the rim just no respect he's going to get hurt again bc teams know they can rough him up and nothing so they will just keep fouling him harder. I don't blame Melo for being frustrated it unreal the lack of calls for a player of his caliber but I think they know he would avg 35+ points a game if he got a fair whistle. Can you imagine Luka Doncic getting benched 4th quarter and he takes tons of so called bad shots and makes stupid fouls and chirps at the Refs WAY more then Lamelo...he also has bad stretches of gameplay just like every player ever but you dont bench Lamelo. This is crazy Lamleo makes plays nobody in the world can make. And look at the team they have around him...Imagine if they had a decent Center For Melo to Drop dimes to on his way to the rim and you have Taj FREAKING GIBSON 40 years old wtf and he sits out so you have Grant Williams who cant finish a single layup assist from Melo...this is a joke no wonder he can at times take a bad shot or two what other option does he have and most of the time he puts the team on his back in the 4th leading NBA in scoring.
Officiating has been atrocious so far too. But Hornets lost this because of turnovers.
He’s performed at every level he’s played at, and he plays to the level of his comp. With a better team he’s the face of the league with Luka, Tatum, Ja, and Ant
You guys are truly amazing. I realize you’re in the entertainment industry and have to create and discuss controversial subjects. But to sit here and listen how much more you know than Charles Lee it’s truly amazing.
If you have ever coached at any level, and that includes the NBA with it politics, as you say, some things do not change. Great coaches affect change in their players. The issues you guys have had with the previous coach and staffs were that they were not assertive enough with LaMelo Ball and now you get a coach who actually doing what he’s paid to do and that’s bring out the best in his players And your questioning that.
Anyway, it’s amusing how often sports commentators are wrong and there breakdown of what is going on with a team and behind the scenes and when they’re predictions and insights, do not pan out they just go onto the next prediction. Weatherman are held more accountable than sports commentators! Love you guys. Give Coach a break and support him a little love for not playing games with his players and doing what is right.
Saw this coming a 100 miles away.. Coach Lee doesn’t like Melo’s leadership
Yo atleast in the 4th I’m rolling with my main player
In my opinion, you live and die with your star player, I don't really get Lee benching Melo in the last 4 minutes, you want to teach him a lesson, fine, get him out of the game, and bring him back in the last 2 minutes... Hopefully there are no major consequences in the future and everyone can move forward, but from the outside it doesn't look good for either the coach or the player, even the players that stayed in the court seemed surprised about the change. One thing for sure, Charles Lee have some COJONES to do what he did last night, and I hope that the team continue to buy in, the result yesterday did not went well with his decision. One last Thing, Hornets have demonstrated a decent competitive level for most of the games, despite going through injuries.
Duncan Robinson recently said in a podcast that "Culture is just an extension of your best player".
Lamelo was making poor decisions, playing lazy defense, had just taken awful shots and committed a take foul 90 feet from the basket. NONE of which are winning habits that Jeff Peterson and Charles Lee have been preaching from day 1. This was a culture benching and I'm 100% for it.
I understand what you’re saying but it don’t seem like they’re doing everything create a winning culture.
Amen!
@@ryansimeu8035this is what you do. Accountability. It takes a long time to fix and then build.
I also think that for the foul part, Charles also need to speak at press conference about the lack of calls his players get. It will maybe help them feeling backed and help with the frustration.
Well said.
The benching gave me some strong Popovich vibes.
Idc if Lamelo was 0-35, and Tre Mann hit 100 straight shots. You don’t bench your franchise player
@@clintonyoungiii6094 and that’s how you stay at the bottom of the league.
@@mattnoonan6519 By benching Lamelo...yes
This is just one example but, Coach Lee is supposed to be this defensive mind3d coach while the Nets are over here pressing every play, while the Hornets made no adjustment defensively (or offensively). He tried to prove a point by benching Lamelo for that foul, even though Charles has been one of the worst defensive coaches in the league…how are the players supposed to trust this dude. Have any hornets players been called for a press-foul? I don’t think so…and that flustered the Hornets, like that’s pretty simple stuff…A lot of things Lee and the coaching staff need to figure out
If want to be a good defensive coach, players need consequences for getting for effort from defense....
@ not putting him in for that last play is unacceptable. you don’t sacrifice a win (in a tournament) to prove a point. Take him out, whatever, but put him back in when you have a chance to tie the game with a three..
If he wanted to bench Melo for 2 or 3 minutes fine but the rest of game from the 5 minute mark is terrible coaching because it shows you don’t care about winning instead you care about making a point. which is fine but you ain’t gonna be a head coach in the NBA long this is a players league thru and thru
Melo gonna be trying get out of Charlotte at some point dealing with this sort of stuff
You think the Lakers would play him a fortune to join and play like he does here?Absolutely ZERO chance.
He gets full freedom here, but it needs to be handled better. Lots of room to grow.
Knecht looks like the steal of the draft
I could’ve told you that before the season started, they got em at 17 😭
Trade melo for him and let's see how it goes 🙈
Diabate only got 15 minutes. I want everyone to look up his +/-. That alone should make everyone question Charles' decision making. I'm not opposed to him benching Melo for those silly fouls so he can prove his point, but there's been far too many times that his other decision making has been questionable at best.
SMH
Facts
Diabate should get starter minutes. He is a walking Rebound. And a great help defender.
Everybody trolling saying he deserved it are average hater’s. Y’all love official authority so much but disregard the fact that a lot of NBA players thought it was dumb also.
You sound small minded
Let’s be real he didn’t even give LaMelo enough time to play in the fourth quarter. He gave him literally 3 1/2 minutes. He brought him in at the 720 mark and expect him to go off for three minutes then sit him down because of a foul stop I think Charles Lee is trying to prove something that he can win without LaMelo Ball, which he can’t
He was cold when he came in since he was on th3 bench for so long, even in the 3rd quarter
Charles Lee made a bad call by benching Lamelo on the 4th quarter, where typically Lamelo explodes. I hope Charles Lee loses his job for this fiasco!
Always good to see David, and I miss Rod and Nada! Hope they're on soon 🙏
This will all blow over once Mark and Nick are back.. Let's just get back to roasting Micic
I mean Charles was last working under Joe Mazzulla who is known to bench his entire starting 5 if he isn't happy with the effort they're bringing, even if it results in a loss. Not very Mazzulla-like in the postgame though lol
Key word entire starting line
That just proves that he´s not really seen as the franchise player. I really get the frustration around the lapses in Lamelo’s game but it’s not fair to treat him like that when he play without a center in an horrible offensive system
Just trade him because Charlotte undervalues him all the time he’s been on a tear an benching your franchise player for a whole fourth quarter is not a great coaching decision an still losing to prove a point is egocentric
The coach let the team loss. He should be fired, that is unprofessional.
Fire Charles Lee!
Dalton Knecht......I commented several times before the draft on this LOH channel and so many casuals said I was dead wrong. He'd be nothing. The Hornets missed on this pick IMO
I still think TJ will be better in the long run. Knecht offers nothing past scoring.
@tr33oh13 that's wishful thinking. And SCORING is the #1 trait all coaches, fans and owners want!
@@B3GINNER defense is what the team sorely lacks. 3&D to be specific. Scoring will come for TJ and his physical specs will turn into defensive production. But you are right. This is all speculative.
How is everyone so shortsighted with the LaMelo benching? He committed a frustration foul 80ft from the basket in a one pt game with 5 mins left in the game! At what point is LaMelo going to start acting like a 5th year player and not a rookie?! Not making shots isn’t a big deal. Brandon Miller was cold af for 3 straight games and still got playing time. LaMelo got benched so Charles Lee could send a message that nobody is above the team, and if you hurt the team you won’t play.
People love to blame the coaches and not the players they are a fan of.
Terrible move u don't bench melo
The benching gave me some strong Popovich vibes.
And they lost the game because of that you wonder where people are at when is 3 minutes left on the clock when it's 4 minutes left on the clock when it's 5 minutes left on the clock and your team hasn't progressed from the decision you made no matter what they were winning this game until they wasn't and lamelo could have been a go to guy in the clutch t Mann is great but not Melo especially in the 4th quarter I get where the coach is coming from by teaching discipline but that was a stupid decision because the team lost at the end
@@ricosav33they lost the game because they blew a hot start. They were destroying the Nets in the first.
When will Lamelo learn not to make stupid frustration fouls? He's no longer a big fish in a small pond and no longer on Daddy's high school team. Grow the f up Lamelo and act professional. You can't be the franchise player and never grow up. Charles Lee is only doing what Lavar, Borego, Clifford, etc should have done. What team is going to pay someone max money if that player can't control their emotions? Would a serious team want to depend on Lamelo in the finals if he's unpredictable? No way. Lamelo and Charlotte are stuck with each other until he grows up so if he wants to do stupid stuff and sit on the bench then that's his choice. Do you think the rest of the team isn't sick of the stupid fouls? Don't you think Lamelo has already been cussed out a thousand times on the bus, locker room, etc? That clearly doesn't work with him. He needs to be sat down and if he wants out because he was benched for one quarter then bye bye.
This made me like Coach Lee. I was a lil eh about him but now I’m sold. Eventually lamelo has to grow up as a leader, these same issues we talk about, the frustration fouls, the bad shots, the reaching all game and being a cone defensively…we have talked about since he was drafted. At some point a coach needs to coach him tough to break bad habits and I’m glad to see we got one willing to do what it takes. Lamelo has the talent to be the best in the league, it’s the discipline and mindset that he is missing. Even lamelo should look at this like man this guy really wants me to be successful
Don’t have a problem with him sitting the majority of the 4th but why is he not in on that last place even if it’s just for distraction
Exactly, at minimum he should have been on the court at the last possession
Coach going to get fired benching the start of the team
Brandon & Simmons offset, coach lee cost them a free throw
Hes trying to teach Melo to stop picking up cheap fouls
This is not how it works. U can lead by threatening and punishment
Lee will look like the bad guy because he is unproven as a HC. He's not Phil Jackson in the Pippen/Kukoc controversy. AND his decision didn't result in a win.
There is so much to dissect here because this isn’t as black and white as it seems. I understand what Lee is trying to do but at the same time it’s a bit unfair to lamelo when you see how the franchise has built the roster around him. Lamelo needs a true vet in the locker room taj Gibson is not it. Imagine if we had a Derozan type vet. Or when we had IT someone like that could help with lamelo and teach that way because now we have put Lee in this position and makes him the “bad guy”. I understand what Lee is trying to do but that loss goes on him not lamelo. If lamelo is as coachable as they say I believe it’ll pay off. But the impatient fan in me is tired of waiting lol I somehow blame mark williams for all this! If we have centers half our problems go away! If you read this far thanks for seeing my rant
it’s your time to leave lamelo
Lamelo this is your chance to leave please 🙏🏾
Being held accountable is a reason to leave?
Nobody is going to want Ball until he grows up and learns from his mistakes, especially with his max contract. He is a baller and makes fantastic plays but he has got to grow up and play smart team basketball.
Your chance too. This is the Charlotte Hornets, not the Lamelo Balls.
@@jayo6725I call bullshit he puts butts in the seat and his jersey sales make the case he’s a star stop undervaluing him
Salute to coach Lee. Melo that dude but discipline is necessary when you’re making low IQ plays and erratic play.
Charles Lee is a horrible coach, yes I said it who benches their best players , the most clutch player in the entire NBA at that and then you draw up a shot for Brandon Miller who is not clutch at all 🤦♂️ , even if Melo had a bad game I’d trust him to take that shot
Stars rule the league, not coaches. Seems super dumb to bench your franchise star.
This is why hornets will never win. Lamelo should ask for a trade.
I’m in the Uk, I watched the highlights on my train to work in the morning. I was SHIT SCARED lamelo was injured as he wasn’t visible in q4 and it didn’t pick up on the highlights. So thankful he was fit but wow 20 something minutes maybe one off game from Charles Lee but come on that was not a justified move!!! Lamelo has to play. Are we tanking? I’ll let Charles off as I think he’s great but he screwed up here
LaMelo's Health Booster Button
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Walker’s point was spot on. All we can do is speculate for now.
We will see what happens next. 🎯
At what point are fans going to start holding Lamelo accountable? He needs to grow up! This is his third HC, yall gonna keep blaming the coach when your franchise player plays poorly and can’t stop with the frustration fouls and TO’s?
So am other team superstars do this n they don't bench em prime example Luka ?
Your comment makes no sense.. you no nothing about basketball
Maybe Lee is just trying to make a point, he’s the boss and even if Melo is extraordinary, this is a team sport. There’s a lot of behind the scenes play by play situations with coach and players us watching the game won’t know.
melo is the boss actually
@ Melo my guy, he a boss too but he ain’t the coach. For him to reach his potential, this is a big part. Just few things to clean up.
Yall asking LaMelo to go through adversity & take accountability for his mistakes when he hasn’t had to do that his WHOLE ENTIRE BASKETBALL LIFE??? He probably asked for a trade after the game, if not by next week. He ain’t built that way. And there’s nobody in management nor coaches that have his respect enough to check him. 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Let Charles Lee coach this team.. The players have to be held accountable in order to get the desired results.. LaMelo should be pissed & ready to take this thing by the neck.. Enough of that happy baller $hit.. Get some wins & respect in the league, he to good for all that cute $hit...
Trade him
@Chineseguyfromtwitter That should be an option for this franchise.. However, they're a hardheaded bunch.. I'm a fan but I want the Hornets to win more than I want to see him play..
Sorry, but yall sound you have small market insecurities. If this was LA, NYC, or Boston, then it’s “a message to the Star.” If Lamelo can’t change, and demands a trade over this, then that horrible behavior by a star. Lamelo is incredible, but he cost them the game, not Lee.
When Stephen Silas was coaching the Rockets the young players were just fucking around making mistakes and he had a quote of something like “they have to learn, I can’t just take them out…” and he got replaced with Ime Udoka, who has flipped that team around with mainly the same team.
If yall want to contend there needs to be messages like this that tells the team nobody is above being benched. This is a culture shift, and the team will learn more from this loss, more than if the team won if Lamelo had stayed in. The loss sucks for the fans, but if Lamelo takes his “Ball” and goes elsewhere, then he’s truly not a superstar that will lead the team.
This thing started with the Slur that Lamelo said. Lee chastised his star publicly. It was a mistake, but they acted like it was World War 3! When Ant did the same thing or Jokic the coach said nothing. The story no one even really talked about it. You could tell Lamelo wasn’t into the game at the beginning. And didnt have a good game. But this happens with players they can turn it on whenever. Coach robbed him of that right. It has nothing to do with fouls or bad shot selection. Lamelo has kept them in games when they shouldn’t , with one of the worst rosters in the league. He has played when others have sat out. He has spent 5 years in Charlotte really carrying the franchise. The coach has growing to do, it maybe best to let him go
Did you not watch the game? He was actually hot in the first half 🤔
@@theburneraccount7385 I actually didnt watch dag.. so why the coach bench him? Over some fouls? or shot selection cmon
Which slur the no h*** one?
This 'player evaluation' excuse needs to stop bro.
he had a bad night got frustrated and made bad decisions but the nets are one of the top in the league at stopping guards
What we don’t know is what Charles and LMB have talked about in private. I do wish Lee was more forthright after, but also protecting his guy.
I’m not enamored with Lee so far
Coach is tanking the team. Or incompetent. I choose to believe he's tanking them. I have enough of a sample size of asinine rotations to make the call. Moussa is the best defender and watching his playing time dissipate. Tank job.
Is this tank level decision making?
Bro just wanted to fuck up my bet 😂
Lol i had to step away for a bit at the end of the game and i just assumed lamelo fouled out when he wasnt playing
If your star can’t be coached then your franchise is going to be held hostage. Lee is playing the long game.
He won’t be there the long game to be playing the long game
@JohanLWill7_ exactly. Especially if you aint winning games lol
If you mentally lose melo, you set your organization back another 5 years as you will never receive adequate compensation for him leaving the team, or refusing to conform and play. I am interested to see how this situation is salvaged, as the damage is done, and I hope Melo takes it neutral/positive and not negative as that will be the downfall.
This was one of the worst games I've seen them play in a while. There was sloppy ball handling and passing resulting in numerous turnovers and poor shot selection. Can't remember another nba team that can't inbound the ball. Melo was taking poor shots and the ball wasn't moving on the offense. He also spends too much time barking at the officials over no calls. Lee's decision to play a small ball line up forgoing rim protection and rebounding makes no sense when you getting eaten alive offensively and defensively on the glass.
Nah the 4th was t the problem they scored 37 in the first then fell apart from there they should have absolutely smashed the nets all the damn missed shots and what 20 plus turnovers come the fuck on stop with the spaz shots and stop dribbling like micic
Do yall know this lavar’s son He’s coachable.
Stupid coach move. He must want to get his young ass fired. Mann missed several shot and his defense sucked. Stupid stupid stupid stupid!!!!! Fans will stop watching you do that shit again!
That take foul is why he got benched. The emotional control lemelo ball doesn’t have is a problem.
I just wished he would have said that durring the press conference, but I get it. The team probably wouldn’t let him say what he needed to.
If he can’t learn from this, as much of I love his play, a championship team can’t be built onto an immature lead.
Wasn't a take foul. Resulted in nothing but the second team foul of the quarter.
Melo plus draft picks for Giannis under discussion? Any buzz about a trade? Gotta wonder what's going on here.
I’m sure Giannis would be wanting to play with LaMelo lol. You’d be getting Dame.
@@mr_s_collects9105 That would be a non-starter, dead in the water
Yall should feel lucky to have a coach that’s willing to make a move like this. There’s a difference between having a cold shooting night and making horrible decisions. Lamelo can be great but nobody should be immune to the bench if they’re selling the game with lazy decisions
i like this tension. seems like a good thing to be at for some progress. let's see what happens.
Lamelo is the best 4th qtr SCOERER rn. Coach took him out because tre Mann shows way more effort on defense. If you don't punish him he's going to keep doing what he want especially because he's a superstar. Great decision on the coach. Mold him into a better player
Nick Smith Jr should be getting run on the floor … Mark Williams is soft get him out here
This action by the coach was at best disingenuous , and, I also feel it was premeditated. Lamelo the star of a team with zero low post presence for the entirety of his young career was off to a really good start and was relegated to the bench from the 9 minute mark of the first quarter to north of the six minute mark of the second quarter. In real time he was on the bench for greater than 20 minutes while the team struggled getting the ball up court. I do not think this ends well.
LaMelo’s game needs to mature. Every game does not have to be a street ball game. As a PG he needs to learn how to control games with IQ and not focus so much on flash. I rather him lead the NBA in assists vs. scoring.
I agree with Charles Lee, I'm not a Hornets fan anymore but I agree with what he did It has to stop at some point.
I’m with Coach Lee
LaMelo did put up a bad shot super early in the clock and then immediately committed a terrible foul so I get benching him but not for the whole 4th Q - that was just dumb on the staff's part
Melo has a tendency to lose his head when shot isn't falling. Also that foul was 100% worth being pulled for, it was careless.
We need our leader to be disciplined and playing within a system. He can't BE the system. That won't allow us to grow into a winning team.
Lamelo has WAY too many bad habits for a young team. Yolo is dead
Sometimes LaMelo lack discipline bad shot selection from long range that's bad.
Time to fired the coach!! News flash man ball miller bridges can be in the game at the same time
When it comes to being a coach .
You have to take a stand and draw your line in the sand. Lamelo is never going to be an all NBA player and win in the playoffs if he doesn’t become at least an Average defender without fouling. He doesn’t have to be an elite defender but he at least needs to be average on that end.
Phil Jackson had to take a stand with Michael Jordan earlier in his coaching career and they won 6 championships
IF Hornets want to be Elite, they got to hold guys accountable
Draw the line in the sand
#firecharleslee #jkbrochill 😂
Melo was doing dumb stuff. He’s had bad coaching and develop a lot of bad habits. Regardless of the fourth quarter numbers the team has a losing record and for the team to improve he has to eliminate the simple AAU mistakes. If he learns and improve they’ll be fine otherwise it shows he just the typical immature player.
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You gonna learn today Lamelo
Lamelo hasn’t even made the playoffs yet
He’s not a Superstar yet
You can't win basketball games jacking up 3 pointers as soon as you get past half court. You got to play in structure. Just because you get your numbers, you are still affecting the team. Kobe had to learn that, Iverson never did. You win championships as a team. Structured offence, solid defense. He is building something. Lamelo needs to get on board. This man has multiple championships. He wants to build it the right way.
100% correct to bench Melo!!