You were significant in making Zen Core and Zenology clear to consumers. Basically Roland is bringing subscribers behind the curtain of their history of sound design capabilities and allowing access to those tools, along with cross platform integration and convenience. ✌🏾
Same here, this zenology pro is an awesome fa-06/08 plugin I love it despite 2 days of encounter a serious bug with missing sounds And Greets from Montreal
Great video with the explanations I've been looking for. I have an integra, V-synth, Fantom6 and the XV-5080 (all Hardware). They will now just be conversation pieces. Zenology will make complex sounds easier to make. Thanks
Overall, I love the Roland Cloud and Zenology Pro is a great addition.I have always loved Roland sounds. My only problem with Zenology Pro is that, as far as I can tell, these pcm's are the same samples from the JV & XV series. These are 20+ year-old samples!! You can really hear it in the drum sounds. I hope Roland is planning to add a bank of newly sampled instruments. The pianos and brass still layer nicely, but as a solo sound some of them sound outdated. Especially when you consider that the JV-1080 & XV-5080 are already available, at some point, I want to hear a 21st century Roland synth sound. All that said, I'm still happy 😊 and I will definitely be using Zenology a lot!
I'm struggling to find a way to import user samples, other than to sample into my MC707. This would be the way to get around all these dated samples, but i can't figure out how to get MY samples into the VST?
Yeeeeeeeeee boi. I've gone from not knowing what Zenology was when i first got the cloud subscription to the instrument i reach for 98% of the time when using plugins. I initially thought it was maybe something similar to Concerto, but just a sampler plate to entice you to get a subscription or something. Eventually found out i was so wrong and this thing is now hands down my favorite soft synth bar none and obtained that spot so very quickly.
It's also really awesome that the PCM has the expansion cards along with the internals too. I have a JV-2080 and I love that i can mix PCMs from my sr-jv80 cards with the internal PCMs to make patches, and that's something the JV-1080 and XV-5080 plugins are missing, being that the SRXs are all separate plugins.
This looks ace and I agree that editing on iPad would rule. So far the zencore is rocking it on my Mac. The only cloud plugin so far that sounds weird is the 303, but the others sound pretty amazing. I am exited for this being in more hardware too. Cheers and good info.
Thanks for the insight vid! Learned some new stuff. Though I'm trying to figure out how to control midi / assign cc's to the MFX section. Or create automations to control MFX parameters. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an option. I hope Roland would allow this on an update.
This is just my dream for years. Only one thing is little bit sad and not about Zenology. I got Integra 7 in my studio and now all srx that I love can be installed as vst. Its amazing but I still got hardware that make less sense already. But Zenology Pro and all Analog Icons just damn stunning.
I love ZENOLOGY! They need to fix the GUI though. It’s hard to see sometimes because the font is so small. ZENOLOGY (before the Pro release) had a better GUI.
Hi, do you know if I can use Zenology, or any of the softwares of the Roland Cloud with my basic arranger Roand E-X20A? I´ve just bought the Pro license and I, m testing it on Cakewalk. Many plugins of RC opens in it, including Zenology, but I, m still trying to use it with my keyboard via MIDI as a controller. I don´t know if Zenology can be used with my keyboard. Would love to know about it. I, m a begginer in the world of the keyboards. Thanks!
Hello Does the zenology pro have different style sequencers? I just got my verselabMV1 Im still learning about all kinds of stuff I found out there are many styles of seq. other than STEP
Thanks for this video. It's a fairly capable system. Has all the features I would expect. It's disappointing to see that they don't have all the technology from the V-Synth GT in there like Vocal designer and AP-synthesis. I've never seen PCM sync in a synthesizer before but I can do that in a Steinberg's Padshop 2.
@@Nu-trix I’m sure it was. Was saying I haven’t come across that personally. Applying sync to samples is something I think is cool though. Any granular synth should let you achieve that by design.
Absolutely would like a video on using Zenology Pro with the MC 101.😃 I have an MC 101 and would like to know whether to get the Zenology Pro to go with it. Question - would I need to purchase a lifetime key to download into the MC 101? And if so what would it cost? Tried to find out on the Roland website but only found subscription cost of $99 per year. Left me confused🤪
I wish an end-game Arpeggiator (Arpie, Midicake Arp or NDLR) was included in Zenology Pro instead of treating the Arp per synth or even no Arp depending on the hardware (like GM-800). A full featured Arp with steps, gate, tied gate, accents etc is an amazing tool, even on hi hats. Plus Arps are a huge part of synth history but sadly, they’re limited or missing from the ZenCore experience for many of us. It’s real bummer - no?
Thanks so much for explaining Zenology Pro! I still have so many questions though.... And Roland is really bad at explaining how things work. Is it possible to share/exchange your own Zenology Pro patches with other people? Or are they 'signed' to your license? Can I load sounds from Roland Soundpacks in Zenology Pro and tweak/change them to my liking? And what if my license for those Soundpacks runs out, but I still have that sound on my MC707? So much unclear about how all of this works.. :-/
Hi there, did those Roland guys tell you if the model expansions wil be compatible with the mc707/101 in the future? I heard on of those guys saying that model expansion would be for the more high end hardware or something.. So not for the mc's? If not im selling my 707 probably.
Speravo che con zenology migliorassero le cose, invece molti utenti lamentano un utilizzo intensivo della CPU, oltre il 20% per un istanza. Ciò che Roland deve fare è ottimizzare al meglio Zenology per uso col PC e fornire una modalità multitimbrica a 16 parti, introdurre un reverb e il program change!
Not right now. I have no clue if they are planning to add any. But a lot of people are asking for it and Roland has been listening in the past years . So let’s continue to ask !
Is Zenology can connect to Roland Keyboard only? Can any 88 usb keyboard trigger Zenology through any DAW? Thank you in advance to whoever can answer this 🙏🏼
So ... just to be clear - sorry, didn't pay much attention. You create a sounds on PC/Mac without hardware connected - like MC707 for example, but you need to save it as a file that need to get to the unit memory card somehow. And this costs either $10 per month or $100 per year
I have a Jupiter Xm and while I can access all the vintage models, I haven’t yet determined how to access the full Z-Core engine in it. Someone, if not Roland, should make a video about this. Or they should make it easy to build an init scene and tone with full Z-Core engine.
I believe it’s the model they call XV-5080 on the Jupiter Xm. In the reference manual, it says “XV-5080, RD Piano, and other tones” and you also have access to the virtual analog partials there.
You were significant in making Zen Core and Zenology clear to consumers. Basically Roland is bringing subscribers behind the curtain of their history of sound design capabilities and allowing access to those tools, along with cross platform integration and convenience. ✌🏾
I just got zenology pro with the model expansions as lifetime keys as a bundle with a year of ultimate thrown in. It’s fantastic.
An excellent explanation and overview. Thank you!
Now they need to bring the full Zenology Pro thing with all the vintage models to iOS/iPad OS as a standalone AUv3 compatible app. That would be huge.
Yes, I think it is really plausible. They already have the preset playback synth ZC1.
Same here, this zenology pro is an awesome fa-06/08 plugin
I love it despite 2 days of encounter a serious bug with missing sounds
And Greets from Montreal
Great video with the explanations I've been looking for. I have an integra, V-synth, Fantom6 and the XV-5080 (all Hardware). They will now just be conversation pieces. Zenology will make complex sounds easier to make. Thanks
Thx for job
Nice review! Nice & interest channel!
Great video. For some strange reason zenology pro isn't covered a lot on youtube. Videos on sync, routing and xmod stuff would be nice.
Ok, I’ll look into making a video about sync, mod and ring routing and uses.
Overall, I love the Roland Cloud and Zenology Pro is a great addition.I have always loved Roland sounds. My only problem with Zenology Pro is that, as far as I can tell, these pcm's are the same samples from the JV & XV series. These are 20+ year-old samples!! You can really hear it in the drum sounds. I hope Roland is planning to add a bank of newly sampled instruments. The pianos and brass still layer nicely, but as a solo sound some of them sound outdated. Especially when you consider that the JV-1080 & XV-5080 are already available, at some point, I want to hear a 21st century Roland synth sound. All that said, I'm still happy 😊 and I will definitely be using Zenology a lot!
I'm struggling to find a way to import user samples, other than to sample into my MC707. This would be the way to get around all these dated samples, but i can't figure out how to get MY samples into the VST?
Yeeeeeeeeee boi. I've gone from not knowing what Zenology was when i first got the cloud subscription to the instrument i reach for 98% of the time when using plugins. I initially thought it was maybe something similar to Concerto, but just a sampler plate to entice you to get a subscription or something. Eventually found out i was so wrong and this thing is now hands down my favorite soft synth bar none and obtained that spot so very quickly.
It's also really awesome that the PCM has the expansion cards along with the internals too. I have a JV-2080 and I love that i can mix PCMs from my sr-jv80 cards with the internal PCMs to make patches, and that's something the JV-1080 and XV-5080 plugins are missing, being that the SRXs are all separate plugins.
This looks ace and I agree that editing on iPad would rule. So far the zencore is rocking it on my Mac. The only cloud plugin so far that sounds weird is the 303, but the others sound pretty amazing. I am exited for this being in more hardware too. Cheers and good info.
Thanks for the insight vid! Learned some new stuff. Though I'm trying to figure out how to control midi / assign cc's to the MFX section. Or create automations to control MFX parameters. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an option. I hope Roland would allow this on an update.
This is just my dream for years. Only one thing is little bit sad and not about Zenology. I got Integra 7 in my studio and now all srx that I love can be installed as vst. Its amazing but I still got hardware that make less sense already. But Zenology Pro and all Analog Icons just damn stunning.
I love ZENOLOGY! They need to fix the GUI though. It’s hard to see sometimes because the font is so small. ZENOLOGY (before the Pro release) had a better GUI.
yeah, GUI is really terrible lagging
It’s fixed now since December 2020
@@JamesBermingham thanks, will back to work with it again then :)
Hi, do you know if I can use Zenology, or any of the softwares of the Roland Cloud with my basic arranger Roand E-X20A? I´ve just bought the Pro license and I, m testing it on Cakewalk. Many plugins of RC opens in it, including Zenology, but I, m still trying to use it with my keyboard via MIDI as a controller. I don´t know if Zenology can be used with my keyboard. Would love to know about it. I, m a begginer in the world of the keyboards. Thanks!
Hello Does the zenology pro have different style sequencers? I just got my verselabMV1 Im still learning about all kinds of stuff I found out there are many styles of seq. other than STEP
Great vdo very informative
I have a question about zenology, there seem to be no reverb fx for drum presets. Did I miss something?
Can you tell - is there any real difference between Fantom andJupiter X and Zenology software synth, in sound quality?
Hey I don't suppose you did that sync video by chance?
Not Yet.
Thanks for this video. It's a fairly capable system. Has all the features I would expect. It's disappointing to see that they don't have all the technology from the V-Synth GT in there like Vocal designer and AP-synthesis. I've never seen PCM sync in a synthesizer before but I can do that in a Steinberg's Padshop 2.
The PCM sync was already present in the JV-1080.
@@Nu-trix I’m sure it was. Was saying I haven’t come across that personally. Applying sync to samples is something I think is cool though. Any granular synth should let you achieve that by design.
Great video. Can you control the way the mc 101 controls the patch, like macros in the circuit?
Absolutely would like a video on using Zenology Pro with the MC 101.😃
I have an MC 101 and would like to know whether to get the Zenology Pro to go with it.
Question - would I need to purchase a lifetime key to download into the MC 101?
And if so what would it cost? Tried to find out on the Roland website but only found subscription cost of $99 per year.
Left me confused🤪
I'm working on a video to answer your question.
I wish an end-game Arpeggiator (Arpie, Midicake Arp or NDLR) was included in Zenology Pro instead of treating the Arp per synth or even no Arp depending on the hardware (like GM-800). A full featured Arp with steps, gate, tied gate, accents etc is an amazing tool, even on hi hats. Plus Arps are a huge part of synth history but sadly, they’re limited or missing from the ZenCore experience for many of us. It’s real bummer - no?
Thanks so much for explaining Zenology Pro!
I still have so many questions though.... And Roland is really bad at explaining how things work.
Is it possible to share/exchange your own Zenology Pro patches with other people? Or are they 'signed' to your license?
Can I load sounds from Roland Soundpacks in Zenology Pro and tweak/change them to my liking?
And what if my license for those Soundpacks runs out, but I still have that sound on my MC707?
So much unclear about how all of this works.. :-/
I think I'll do a video about all the questions I get online.
Hi there, did those Roland guys tell you if the model expansions wil be compatible with the mc707/101 in the future? I heard on of those guys saying that model expansion would be for the more high end hardware or something.. So not for the mc's? If not im selling my 707 probably.
I’ll get more details in the next weeks.
It says 4999 views - hope I make it 5K ...anyway, back to watching.
It did, just a number eh ;)
Just a number . But we still like numbers 😉
@@Nu-trix Sorry, I meant to say numbers are everything. Kraftwerk agree. 👍
how tf do I open this on my computer? it says its installed but wont open anywhere
Check out this one : th-cam.com/video/ah1fHKmwPuA/w-d-xo.html
It opens only in a DAW.
Is it possible to use Zenology Pro on an offline computer?
Or does it have to connect to Roland Cloud every time you open it?
It needs to connect online form time to time to confirm the licences. I don’t know how often.
Speravo che con zenology migliorassero le cose, invece molti utenti lamentano un utilizzo intensivo della CPU, oltre il 20% per un istanza. Ciò che Roland deve fare è ottimizzare al meglio Zenology per uso col PC e fornire una modalità multitimbrica a 16 parti, introdurre un reverb e il program change!
Hi Nu-Trix, does Zenology Pro not contains reverb?
Not right now. I have no clue if they are planning to add any. But a lot of people are asking for it and Roland has been listening in the past years . So let’s continue to ask !
@@Nu-trix it sounds good even without it, but anyway it's strange that it's not added. Does MC101 have it?
Is Zenology can connect to Roland Keyboard only?
Can any 88 usb keyboard trigger Zenology through any DAW?
Thank you in advance to whoever can answer this 🙏🏼
Zenology is a full synth in a plugin. no need for a Roland synth to use it.
@@Nu-trix wow that's great. Can I use it with my Cubase or Logic?
@@dulistanheman Yes! It's made for that!
@@Nu-trix Thank you. I Subscribed
The super saw oscilator is sample based...its sound like a toy compared to JP8K
So ... just to be clear - sorry, didn't pay much attention. You create a sounds on PC/Mac without hardware connected - like MC707 for example, but you need to save it as a file that need to get to the unit memory card somehow. And this costs either $10 per month or $100 per year
A lot of FX, BUT! Where is the reverb??
I have a Jupiter Xm and while I can access all the vintage models, I haven’t yet determined how to access the full Z-Core engine in it. Someone, if not Roland, should make a video about this. Or they should make it easy to build an init scene and tone with full Z-Core engine.
I believe it’s the model they call XV-5080 on the Jupiter Xm. In the reference manual, it says “XV-5080, RD Piano, and other tones” and you also have access to the virtual analog partials there.
Nice sounds, but green synths make me sick :-)