Ferrari 360 alarm module change for bad battery.

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  • @juanmaldonado3281
    @juanmaldonado3281 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A. SUPER. AWESOME. VIDEO. TNKS. SIR👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Most welcome

  • @chocolatte6157
    @chocolatte6157 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video. I need to do this, and did not know how. Also, thanks for the tip on the GM module. It looks like it is $573 from Ricambi.
    Subscribed. 👍👍👍

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for viewing

  • @fingerbang4842
    @fingerbang4842 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Jeff, HUGE help!

  • @makpsv
    @makpsv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know that alarm is pretty similar to the ones on Audi, VW, Skoda (GM as we see on this video).
    What we normally do (like you mentioned on the video) is buy a 6 AA or AAA battery holder and some batteries like mentioned above.
    Then we take the old battery out , reseal the alarm box with the battery holder outside and put the new batteries on the holder.
    Much cheaper and works like before since it's the original module.
    What I'm trying to say is that there is no need at all to buy another module and spend "lots of money" if the old leaking batteries have not damaged the board beyond repair.
    A little DIY and all is solved. You can even put the batteries wherever you want making them accesible for future changes. 👍

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. Maybe I'll try it and make a new video. I was going to replace the old batteries.

    • @makpsv
      @makpsv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will look forward to it.
      I'm changing mines this week, just waiting for parts.
      I feel like if the manufacturers installed an external battery from the beggining it would be so much easier when they fail... But then again they like to make things harder for us! 😅

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@makpsv sell more parts

    • @makpsv
      @makpsv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ferrarifxs More like sell more expensive parts. Theycould still sell a genuine external battery, but that's not enough.
      Not surprising. 🤷‍♂️

  • @chrisgoncalves9405
    @chrisgoncalves9405 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video. My father worked for Ferrari for 10 years and he would always tell me the wiring is all GM !! Now that I own one he’s personally showed me and it’s just crazy how much american is in this car ! Great video !!

  • @SpecializedECURepair
    @SpecializedECURepair 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good video. This was needed a LONG TIME AGO! Let us know if we can ever help you with your car's Immo and key fob system! I'd love to hook you up!

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much to have Enzo style key programmed to my 360? Thanks Jeff from exoticcarjunk.com/ferrarifxs

  • @Pjmperez01
    @Pjmperez01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you just disable the alarm without any CEL?

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not that I'm aware of

  • @richardheilman6280
    @richardheilman6280 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are to be complimented on an excellent video! I have a 2000 Modena manual transmission suffering from the "Old RLAOWD" (red light always on while driving) problem. I haven't done anything about it as it really doesn't bother me. However, sooner or later I should get this fixed. A couple of things here. 1) As most people have experienced, and your note mentions, the inexpensive GM part will kill the light but won't activate the alarm (supposedly, Euro-spec cars don't have this problem from a Ferrichat post from vrsurgeon); so the question becomes do you buy the expensive Ferrari original or use the GM as a fix for the LED light only? Or let a Ferrari dealer do the entire project at what I've heard is about $1000? I can see doing this with the GM while I own the car, but if I ever sell it (which will happen one day, just not soon, I hope:) I would want the buyer to have a fully functioning alarm system or certainly disclose that the alarm siren doesn't work. Obviously this is up to the owner in what to do. 2) The vapor barrier looks like it's that thin foam plastic sheeting that sometimes is used in packaging. Is that correct? I assume a dealer would remove the entire barrier and replace it, instead of just cutting through it as you show. I think I read elsewhere that it is possible to slowly and carefully pry it gently away and then re-glue it after the module is replaced. Or get a sheet of the foamy plastic stuff and cut a new piece to size and then glue that into place. Do you think these are options? Best, and thanks again for you fine video. Richard

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello. Thanks for your reply. You can pull apart the old alarm, but the internal batteries are soldered to the mother board and are difficult to find to replace. As for the foam barrier this was done by a ferrari dealer. When I purchased the car it was serviced exclusively by Ferrari. Like I said before the alarm will immobilize the car but will not sound till the key is turned on. Why they made these different is strange.

    • @richardheilman6280
      @richardheilman6280 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the prompt response. Interesting that a dealer would just cut the barrier, but I suppose if they did that then I shouldn't be too worried about doing it myself. I'm sure you've seen another article on replacing the batteries with rechargeable Ni-Cads totaling 7.2 v, so that is an option (although a difficult one as you mentioned). Funny that Ferrari would solder the batteries in place and you've got to wonder what the heck they were thinking. Of course the simple answer is that it would be to spend money at a dealer for a part and services through "planned obsolescence." GM part= $70, Ferrari part=$700; gotta love that, right? I love my 360 but all of its quirks does make one angrily scratch their head at times.

  • @ferrarifxs
    @ferrarifxs  5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello everyone thanks for your support. Please visit my website and list your parts and cars. www.exoticcarjunk.com

  • @mikewhite5005
    @mikewhite5005 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jeff is there anyway to eliminate the alarm all together? Just something else to go wrong

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not that I'm aware. But I'm not saying you can't. I just don't know.

  • @Champagne0706
    @Champagne0706 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the siren sound off with this GM part, when the door is opened while the car is armed?

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello Chris
      I just went out to test. You are correct. The lights only flashed. The alarm will only sound when you turn the ignition to the run position.

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it will still give you notification that the alarm was set off when you unarm. I guess I would stick with the Ferrari module.

    • @Champagne0706
      @Champagne0706 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ferrarifxs Damn! I have been reading on the Ferrari Chat forum that people have been using this GM part in lue of Fearri's, but nobody was real clear about the siren part!! Thank you for taking the time to test that for me!🖒

    • @Champagne0706
      @Champagne0706 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ferrarifxs Beautiful car BTW! Mine is a yellow Spider as well, but with a the dark blue top and black and blue interior... I just got done changing the heat exchanger on mine, boy was that a job!! 😥

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You would't know. I had to lock the car with the window rolled down to test. Other than that it seemed to work fine. The circuit board inside must vary. For me, it's not a big deal, it still locks and unlocks the car and gives me notification that the car is locked and unlocked and the red light is out.

  • @ulissi84
    @ulissi84 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Part number compatible for 70/80 dollars?
    Some link?
    I need now, because mine got some problem... The acid of the batteries has short-circuited.. I also need a third remote control because I lost it. 2 problems.

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello . the Gm part number is 15213135. this part has gone up in price now. These alarm will plug directly into the Ferrari plug. The only difference is when your alarm goes off, the horn will not sound. It will still keep the car from starting. The remote controls a different module in the car. So when you change the alarm you can still use your keys. If you have the red remote still you can program a new fob I believe. I would have to look into the procedure.

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm currently look for some parts to try to repair the orgiinal alarm and will make a video of that.

    • @ferrarifxs
      @ferrarifxs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Programming a Ferrari Alarm ECU with New Fobs:
      Alarm and Fob Basics: Ferraris arrived from the factory with three alarm remote fobs,
      one red master fob, and two black slave fobs. The red fob contains the Alarm Electronic
      Control Unit (ECU) Personal Identification Number (PIN) and an identification (ID)
      number. The black fobs contain only an ID number. The red and black fob ID numbers
      are combined with a rolling code to prevent compromise by thieves using a radio receiver
      and recorder to duplicate the ID and code and use those to gain entry, just like modern
      garage door openers use rolling codes to prevent compromise.
      The Alarm ECU PIN is provided with the car, or with a new set of fobs, on a small piece
      of two layer paper, the top layer of which must be removed to read the PIN. A red fob
      can be used to program other black fobs using the same procedure outlined below for
      programming a new set of fobs, if a black fob is lost or becomes inoperative. The Alarm
      ECU does not use the PIN except when the car is started with ignition key and PIN alone
      (fobs lost or inoperative), or when reprogramming the ECU to accept new fobs. In normal
      use, the Alarm ECU uses only the fob IDs and rolling codes. Reprogramming the Alarm
      ECU for a new set of fobs is an extension of starting the car with ignition key and PIN
      only.
      In normal practice, use the black fobs and keep the red fob in a safe place where it will
      not be lost or damaged. This will ensure replacement black fobs can be programmed into
      the Alarm ECU using the red master fob, if necessary.
      The Alarm ECU will only accept the red fob PIN and ID and two black fob IDs during
      reprogramming. Note the fobs are transmitters only. They have no receiver capability.
      European and US/Canadian fobs use different transmitter frequencies and are not
      interchangeable.
      Ferrari recommends changing the 23A/A23/MN21 12 volt battery in your fobs every six
      months. This is easily accomplished with a small Phillips head screwdriver to remove the
      screw holding together the two fob halves.
      If you only have alarm key fobs and no PIN, you cannot reprogram your Alarm ECU to
      accept new key fobs. (It is possible to clone extra key fobs to provide back-ups. Do a
      search in Ferrarichat.com.) Ferrari North America, through its authorized dealer network,
      can provide you a new Alarm ECU, a new set of three matching fobs, and the PIN
      number as an ultimate, but costly, solution.
      With the alarm and engine immobilizer armed, pressing a key fob will disarm both alarm
      and immobilizer. After 120 seconds, the engine immobilizer will rearm if the car is not
      started. Starting the car will require one additional push on the fob to disarm the
      immobilizer after 120 seconds have elapsed since disarming the system. If you remove
      the key and open a door after returning from driving and do not arm the system with a
      fob, the immobilizer will arm 60 seconds after the door is opened. To reprogram the
      Alarm ECU to the new PIN in the red fob, make sure the immobilizer is armed and the
      alarm is disarmed.
      Starting a Ferrari without a Key Fob: The first step in reprogramming the Alarm ECU
      to accept new key fobs is the same process used to start a Ferrari if all remote alarm fobs
      are lost, inoperative or unavailable and you only have the ignition key and know the four
      digit Alarm ECU PIN. This procedure is spelled out in the Alarm System Manual
      supplied by Ferrari. Here is the procedure spelled out in the Ferrari copyright Alarm
      System Manual:
      If this seems rather cryptic, here is what it means:
      Drive your car to make sure the battery is fully charged in case you foul up the procedure
      so you do not run down your battery.
      Remember the times important in this sequence. Key off-on-off cycles representing PIN
      numbers must be made in less than two seconds. After PIN numbers are entered by the
      required number of key off-on-off cycles, a pause of more than 2 seconds and less than
      20 seconds must be made before entering the next PIN number. If your PIN has a zero, it
      is represented by 10 off-on-off cycles of the ignition key. If you foul up, you must wait at
      least 20 seconds before starting over. So here is the procedure after you have driven the
      car and waited 60 seconds after removing the key and opening the door or 120 seconds
      after removing the key and not opening the door so the immobilizer is armed.
      PIN Code 3204 is used as an example for this case. This is different from the code 3324
      in the Ferrari illustration above. Ignition switch position “0” mentioned above is off and
      position “II” is on.
      1) Insert the ignition key and wait at least 20 seconds with the ignition key in off.
      2) Turn the key from off to on and back to off as quickly as possible (less than 2
      seconds for all PIN numbers) 3 times (count to 3 out loud) for the first PIN
      number “3”.
      3) Count to 5 out loud (a good compromise between more than 2 and less than
      20 seconds) before starting the second PIN number.
      4) Turn the key off-on-off 2 times for the second PIN number “2”.
      5) Count to 5.
      6) Turn the key off-on-off 10 times for the third PIN number “0”.
      7) Count to 5.
      8) Turn the key off-on-off four times for the fourth and last PIN number “4”.
      9) At this point, after 2 seconds or a bit more, the alarm light emitting diode
      (LED) will go off and you can start the car. Starting the car confirms you can
      correctly enter the PIN, the first step in reprogramming the Alarm ECU to
      accept new remote alarm fobs. Keep trying if you do not succeed the first
      time, remembering to wait more than 20 seconds before the next attempt.
      Programming the Alarm ECU for New Fobs: Ferrari also provided procedures for
      reprogramming the Alarm ECU to accept new remote alarm fobs. This process is
      described as putting the Alarm ECU in “self-learning” mode in Ferrari Workshop
      Manuals, the first step of which is entering the Alarm ECU PIN as described above.
      Again this is a bit cryptic, but the times for entering the PIN numbers still apply and less
      than 2 seconds is what you need to remember for the following ten key cycles noted
      above.
      Again PIN number 3204 is used as an example and the first eight steps for starting a car
      with PIN and ignition key alone (no fob available) are identical but given here as a
      complete checklist for reprogramming the Alarm ECU. The steps following PIN entry
      rely on watching the Alarm LED cycle from on to off ten times and eventually flashing
      when “learning mode” is fully enabled and the new alarm fob PIN (red fob only) and IDs
      (red and black fobs) can be entered into the Alarm ECU memory.
      1) Insert the ignition key and wait 20 seconds with the ignition key in off.
      2) Turn the key from off to on and back to off as quickly as possible (less than 2
      seconds for all PIN numbers) 3 times (count to 3 out loud) for the first PIN
      number “3”.
      3) Count to 5 out loud (a good compromise between more than 2 and less than
      20 seconds) before starting the second PIN number.
      4) Turn the key off-on-off 2 times for the second PIN number “2”.
      5) Count to 5.
      6) Turn the key off-on-off 10 times for the third PIN number “0”.
      7) Count to 5.
      8) Turn the key off-on-off four times for the fourth and last PIN number “4”.
      9) Count to 5.
      10) Turn the key to on and count “1” out loud. The Alarm LED will come on and
      then go off.
      11)As soon as the LED goes off, turn the key from on to off and back to on in
      less than 2 seconds and count “2” out loud.
      12) Repeat the key cycles and LED cycles until the count reaches 10 cycles.
      13)After the 10th cycle, turn the key back on and the LED should start flashing.
      14) Press the red fob button until the LED accelerates its flashing and then stop
      pressing the red fob button. The LED will resume flashing slowly.
      15) Press the first black fob button and the LED will again accelerate its flashing.
      Stop pressing the black fob button and the LED will resume flashing slowly.
      16) Press the second black fob button and the LED will accelerate its flashing one
      last time. Stop pressing the second fob button and the LED will stop flashing
      completely.
      17) The Alarm ECU is now programmed to recognize all three remote alarm fobs
      and the fobs should be checked to ensure they are operational.
      Note: Reports have been made of the number of cycles of the LED varying from 12 to 20
      or more before the LED started flashing. My Alarm LED flashed on the 11th time
      the key was turned to on, exactly as stated in the WSM extract above.
      Although this process sounds very involved, the actual ECU programming process takes
      less than five minutes from start to finish, assuming you make no mistakes. This is even
      if you are unlucky and have a couple of zeros in your PIN.

    • @ulissi84
      @ulissi84 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ferrarifxs
      Thank you... I will search the siren alarm.
      I have 1 red and 1 black... I lost 1 black and the key... I need one slave fob.

  • @ceb7422
    @ceb7422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Found this on eBay

  • @ceb7422
    @ceb7422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fount this on eBay, Alarm Siren Buzzer Cadillac CTS 03.01 - Sirene Horn 35708573