Exactly. He does his bonus damage to all tech heroes instead of just robots. Which already makes him much more viable in match ups. Bero is crazy for that.
It’s even worse when you realize that he is supposed to have the highest damage output out of every deathless champ so far. DG & DKG both are listed as 3/5 in damage, DV is supposed to be a 3.5/5.
@helatard4272 Hopefully they realize this and buff him to meet his actual goal, but after they fumbled serpent rebalancing I have basically no hope in the rebalancing team.
Like i said in swedahs video of DV, I'm fully convinced that his damage is just flat-out bugged. All those furies, and yet it's like his damage doesn't increase at all.
@Casually420 honestly you might be right lol. After quickly looking at the 44 tech champs in the game he was in my bottom 15. That’s pretty much by definition below mid
So what does he have? He has no damage, no power control and the weakest phase. And to say it’s not all about damage is lame when he’s just demo’d that the mega utility champ like Ironheart is twice as fast as Dvision
@daggaboom there's a lot of videos on dvision is op but you don't look yourself. We all have our opinions on champions, not every single champion in the game has to meet our standards. Just because he ain't good doesn't mean he ain't usable. A champion is a champion. Either cry about it or just go with the flow and just enjoy the game
@@4mcoc-ry5lg did you seriously just claim there’s vids on DVision being OP? Everything you say after that is dismissed as garbage and not worth reading.
@@Nemesis-rb1jk im 80% sure at R3 with ouchies DV can do that. still though. bullseye averages 2:10-2:25 on WS as a R5 6*. thats horrible. and DV has similar if not better timing. i remember getting around 1:45 at my best with deathless vision which is still awful!
@Dennis718141 Idk I was able to get around 1:30 with my r5a bullseye without cides on. You might be doing the wrong rotation because there’s no way just the ascension speeds him up by 45s. Not trying to say bullseye is a phenomenal attacker but his damage is good enough for at least some circumstances, plus he has some decent utility. Idk when I’d ever use DVis unless I’m forced to like in SoS lol.
@@Nemesis-rb1jk 1:30 is the standard for a good time for a R5 non ascended. ascention is the equivilent to a 7* R3 confirmed my kabam themselves so yes i do believe that it does speed it up 30-45 seconds. the whole point is that bullseyes damage is ass, deathless visions damage is better, not by much, not a good champion. all bullseye has going for him is his defense and his utility, comparing to deathless vision.
@Dennis71841 R5a is much closer to an r2 than r3. I have an r5s red skull and an r2 red skull. The r5a has 57,938 health and 7,863 attack. The 7* r2 has 57,824 health and 7,846 attack. The r5a is just barely above the r2 in base stats but doesn’t have stat focus or challenger rating, and in the case of bullseye both of those are important. My bullseye is r3 now but when he was r2 I did tests between my r2 and my r5a and my r2 performed a little bit better thanks to stat focus. Anyway point being the ascension is much closer to a one rank advantage than a 2 rank advantage, so it should not change the fight time by 45s. Again I don’t think bullseye has phenomenal damage but he’s at least usable on attack in bgs. If you’re just sp1 spamming with bullseye then yes his damage will suck. But if you’re getting his fury up, going for sp2 into sp1 with perfect release and the fury he does pretty solid damage. MSD has a good video that sums up my thoughts about offensive bullseye, it’s the video that opened my eyes to him on attack.
Bruhh Deathless King Groot is so Great... And He's Way More Advanced version than his OG King Groot This Deathless Vision is just mid 😂 he's even way More Bad that his Counterpart OG Vision Atleast OG Vision have Great Power Control but this vision literally Dosen't even Have That 😂
toad was cancer for me i am skipping deathless vision objective as i dont want to spend 10-12 revs for this piece of garbage i am happy with 16 points in sos
It’s not, watch metalsonicdudes video on deathless vision who he took to rank 3. There he said just sp1s to build furies is significantly better and faster
@@Eddd1e according to me u will gain his more phase charge when u drain opponent's more power bars..and more phase charges means more furies..so according to me sp2 and sp3 will be good..
@@BeroMan I did WS with vision in 1:57 with r1 and in 1:20 with r2. Without suicides, assassin, synergies or boosts. Sp2 rotation provides more damage. I still agree that he sucks though🌚
It’s not a good look when a 7* is being compared to a 4*
😂😂😂😂😂 did you really watch the video?
Starlord 1fury vs deathless vision 13furies
No way bro said deathless king groot sucks when hes objectively better than king groot and is a 7*
Exactly. He does his bonus damage to all tech heroes instead of just robots. Which already makes him much more viable in match ups. Bero is crazy for that.
he a bgs player, anything that is not fast enough to get him at least 48k points in bgs means it sucks
It’s even worse when you realize that he is supposed to have the highest damage output out of every deathless champ so far. DG & DKG both are listed as 3/5 in damage, DV is supposed to be a 3.5/5.
that's so funny
@1pala33o It is but in a bad way😫
Bro what 🤣 dkg blows both outta water, kabam is really disillusioned with the game
@helatard4272 Hopefully they realize this and buff him to meet his actual goal, but after they fumbled serpent rebalancing I have basically no hope in the rebalancing team.
@@Nemesis-rb1jk yeah they don’t exist might as well forget they exist except when they nerf champs
Bro my 2* hela goes harder than maxed out max boosts max recoils 7* r3 dvision is so sad
your 2* hela does more dmg than most champs
@@gito4066 she can do more damage but it still takes her just under two minutes to defeat rol ws…most attack champs can finish faster than that
Like i said in swedahs video of DV, I'm fully convinced that his damage is just flat-out bugged. All those furies, and yet it's like his damage doesn't increase at all.
Don't let MSD see this
Deathless midsion fr
Hes worse than mid, even green goblin or yondu is better than vision
@@CasuaIIy420he is the worse tech champ rn
@Casually420 honestly you might be right lol. After quickly looking at the 44 tech champs in the game he was in my bottom 15. That’s pretty much by definition below mid
@@helatard4272 vulture? Iron patriot?
@@rahulbansal2 vulture is miles better, patriot is easy to use and got regen also
King groot was good bro
two things to make a better champ.. refresh fury at miss and sp2 drains 100% power
Didn't know even duped he's still known as "Worthless Vision"...
Furies need to be more potent and power drain needs to be buffed or increased power gain when phasing
Something they could add on DV is the signature ability of both Visions (og and AoU)
Iron heart is a lot stronger with the sentinel relic
saying dkg is bad is INSANE he’s so good
I really like how his trailer made him look like hot sh*t when In reality he was just sh*t 😂
Both ironheart and war machine are great. Battlegrounds is not the only game mode
SL just that dawg 🗿
The old & good Starlord, no surprises with Deathless MIDSion.
Ironheart with sentinal relic works well
Do 7 star vision vs 2 star hela next
And thats why I think everyone should go F2P for 2-3 months untill they understand.
Not always about damage
So what does he have? He has no damage, no power control and the weakest phase. And to say it’s not all about damage is lame when he’s just demo’d that the mega utility champ like Ironheart is twice as fast as Dvision
@daggaboom there's a lot of videos on dvision is op but you don't look yourself. We all have our opinions on champions, not every single champion in the game has to meet our standards. Just because he ain't good doesn't mean he ain't usable. A champion is a champion. Either cry about it or just go with the flow and just enjoy the game
@@4mcoc-ry5lg did you seriously just claim there’s vids on DVision being OP? Everything you say after that is dismissed as garbage and not worth reading.
@daggaboom then go cry about it I don't give a fuck about what people think about a champion. You got a bad champion deal with it 🖕
does these furies even work...
Deathless vision best deathless robot true
“Midless” vision.
the only compliment i can give deathless vision is that he has better damage than bullseye 😂😂
@Debnis71841 That’s not even true tho lol my r3 bullseye with cides can do WS in 45-50s. DV at r3 abd with cides still can’t do that.
@@Nemesis-rb1jk im 80% sure at R3 with ouchies DV can do that.
still though. bullseye averages 2:10-2:25 on WS as a R5 6*. thats horrible. and DV has similar if not better timing. i remember getting around 1:45 at my best with deathless vision which is still awful!
@Dennis718141 Idk I was able to get around 1:30 with my r5a bullseye without cides on. You might be doing the wrong rotation because there’s no way just the ascension speeds him up by 45s.
Not trying to say bullseye is a phenomenal attacker but his damage is good enough for at least some circumstances, plus he has some decent utility. Idk when I’d ever use DVis unless I’m forced to like in SoS lol.
@@Nemesis-rb1jk 1:30 is the standard for a good time for a R5 non ascended. ascention is the equivilent to a 7* R3 confirmed my kabam themselves so yes i do believe that it does speed it up 30-45 seconds.
the whole point is that bullseyes damage is ass, deathless visions damage is better, not by much, not a good champion. all bullseye has going for him is his defense and his utility, comparing to deathless vision.
@Dennis71841 R5a is much closer to an r2 than r3. I have an r5s red skull and an r2 red skull. The r5a has 57,938 health and 7,863 attack. The 7* r2 has 57,824 health and 7,846 attack. The r5a is just barely above the r2 in base stats but doesn’t have stat focus or challenger rating, and in the case of bullseye both of those are important.
My bullseye is r3 now but when he was r2 I did tests between my r2 and my r5a and my r2 performed a little bit better thanks to stat focus.
Anyway point being the ascension is much closer to a one rank advantage than a 2 rank advantage, so it should not change the fight time by 45s. Again I don’t think bullseye has phenomenal damage but he’s at least usable on attack in bgs. If you’re just sp1 spamming with bullseye then yes his damage will suck. But if you’re getting his fury up, going for sp2 into sp1 with perfect release and the fury he does pretty solid damage. MSD has a good video that sums up my thoughts about offensive bullseye, it’s the video that opened my eyes to him on attack.
It’s criminal how bad he is
Now for the question who is worse: silver sable or deathless vision?
I'd say sable is worse becouse of how stressful she is to play.
Sable still worse which is even sadder
Bruhh Deathless King Groot is so Great...
And He's Way More Advanced version than his OG King Groot
This Deathless Vision is just mid 😂 he's even way More Bad that his Counterpart OG Vision
Atleast OG Vision have Great Power Control but this vision literally Dosen't even Have That 😂
134 hits for an 7* to get ws down not bad
Esta mal jugado .... Se baja al soldado con 50 o 60 golpes con s2 ahi esta el daño y con menos furias. Pero ahi le dio puro s1
Your 4* was ascended though, extra stat boost means that 7* deathless vision is better
Real
toad was cancer for me i am skipping deathless vision objective as i dont want to spend 10-12 revs for this piece of garbage i am happy with 16 points in sos
Deathless lettuce
From this swedeah may get offend
2 star cgr would do better😂
😭😭😭
Useless vision 😡
The deathless champs are useless. Until their special quest comes out. I haven't seen any in BGs 😂
Guilly is simple but at rank 3 has very good damage output in general metas.
Plz dnt mind but u r not going with vision's ideal rotation..his main damage is from his sp2 rotation
It’s not, watch metalsonicdudes video on deathless vision who he took to rank 3. There he said just sp1s to build furies is significantly better and faster
@@Eddd1e according to me u will gain his more phase charge when u drain opponent's more power bars..and more phase charges means more furies..so according to me sp2 and sp3 will be good..
@@Eddd1e i just tried it right before u said...sp1 rotation fight was 2:26 and my sp2 rotation was 1:47...so much difference
😂Still gets out damage by old tech champs
@@gregoryakorli8516 m not saying that deathless vision is the best...he is just not the worst😊
I don't think so vision is that bad..i did this fight in 1:12 with my r1 deathless vision with recoils..not that bad i guess
Obviously, Suicides Boosts Damage.
@@BeroMan but still ur rotation is wrong budd..with sp1 there is no damage...main damage is frm sp2 and sp3
@@BeroMan I did WS with vision in 1:57 with r1 and in 1:20 with r2. Without suicides, assassin, synergies or boosts. Sp2 rotation provides more damage. I still agree that he sucks though🌚
Ah hell nah😂
😢😢😢 😂
Deathless Vision is garbage
Vision is a joke 👎👎👎
Lol
i just did it in 1:36 seconds u dont know how to use vision