Yo I just found this channel today and after just 30 minutes of listening, I hit that subscribe button. Keep doing your thing bro. I must’ve been sleeping under a rock because I cannot understand how I didn’t find this channel earlier
You hit the nail right on the head Awthentik. I said to a friend of mine if the Giants had said from jump this a rebuild we would have accepted it but after numerous bad moves by Schoen and the ineptitude at QB and head coach is a an outright disgrace and the playoff run was badly overrated and over valued by this team.
The reason why teams are taking neighbors out of games is because they know Daniel Jones can only make a handful of throws which are intermediate throws on the field, that's it no accurate deep ball , no fade route , no throws Daniel Jones can throw on a regular basis
Why does it seem so hard for many podcasters to admit Jones is a bad QB. Why does it seem like they have to force it out of their mouths. I thought he was lousy going back to Duke. Why does this guy get so much slack.
Jones has more swag and Moxie than Eli had. Tiki said that players like Shockey and other veterans used to laugh at Eli in the huddle when he tried to rally the troops
authenthink can we also give a shout out to Sterling Shepard over on Tampa Bay bucks , playing well having fun winning with a QB that can get him the ball Shepard deserves a winning season before he retires so many guys we let go with so much still in the tank
My only issue with Daboll is that he was shaken after the cowboys loss 40-0. He hasn’t been the same since. That year instead of tanking in the best draft class in years @ 2 and 6 Daboll used his magic on DeVito and fucking won meaningless games. He is visibly shaken.
This team isn’t as far off as most people think it’s just that Jones is absolutely useless. If you switched Jones and any or the premier QB’s let’s say the Bills, Chiefs, Chargers…I’d say the other team would be awful and not be able to produce any offense and the Giants would be contending for the playoffs, and the Giants aren’t a finished product by any means. They lost all close games except the Vikings and the Eagles. Daniel Jones is absolutely THE DIFFERENCE in those games. When you build a team your foundational pieces should generally be QB, tackle especially the blind side, pass rusher, CB and WR. If you’ve noticed these guys have poured almost all of their premium assets (high draft picks and big contracts) into those position groups. Have they gotten it right or are they good enough to do it? That’s a whole other argument but they do appear to have a clue and a plan at the very least. Paying Barkley and McKinney would have made no sense because they wouldn’t have been able to turn around and afford the assets at those premier positions so that’s why they are trying to fill those roles through the draft or at least with moderately priced free agents on the younger end. Now Brian Daboll and his ego are absolutely a problem. In 2022 Wink Martindale and Mike Kafka were the main reason they made the playoffs that year imo. Mike Kafka had better game plans and was a better play caller because he understood Jones is a slow mental processor so he tailored his offense to help that and also got him out of the pocket to help with his atrocious pocket awareness. Brian Dabolls ego causing him and Wink Martindale to hate his guts and leave, now they half defensive players tailored to Winks scheme which is totally different that Shane Bowens. It also caused to top defensive candidates to turn down the job. This is part of the problem here and i figured it would be. Brian Daboll absolutely deserves this, I’d like to ask him where all his cigars are now? Now like you said…do you turn it all over again and restart this whole mess and disaster? You could make the case that Schoen poor drafting and Dabols ego deserve that but that’s probably going to set them back years as the new regime cleans out a lot of these players and position coaches with their own plan and we are getting to a point where if we had a premium QB like Cam Ward appears to be, we can probably contend year in and year out with a younger roster. Keep up the good work A, we may not always agree but that’s the beauty of opinions. You have a good show. Also i think they may have waited for a bad defense to start Evan Neal and give Eleumanor a couple weeks to practice on the left but who knows. Neal still looked bad against the pass rush the Panthers just have a bunch of scrubs.
My only issue with Daboll is that he was shaken after the cowboys loss 40-0. He hasn’t been the same since. That year instead of tanking in the best draft class in years @ 2 and 6 Daboll used his magic on DeVito and fucking won meaningless games. He is visibly shaken. Now he won’t do the same for Lock
Absolutely agree on Burns. We would have been much better off rebuilding with 3 $10m solid players and using the 2nd round pick on Lassiter or McKinsey. So, why?
The 2022 season, DJ won a playoff game with the easiest schedule possible against and very bad Vikings team. DJ was 4th worse DJ in the redzone and 3rd down conversion. But somehow he got a contract. I understand Saquon was hurt and is a high risk, and if your rebuilding, you take the QB. Yet, I believe John Mara made the decision to sign DJ not Joe Schoen. Remember, if Joe wants to continue, he'll have to play ball like every other GM. This is true about Joe, he's cleaned up the financial dumpster fire left behind by David Gettleman. John Mara also is to blame stemming back to the 2014 season getting rid of Tom Coughlin. 2015 season was the start of this nightmare that singlehandedly John Mara created. With that said, he learned to stay out. Joe Schoen now coming into the 2025 season, he has 8 draft picks, parting ways with DJ and can certainly have a much improved team next season!
I don’t really think it’s Dabols fault like the man is a good coach he gets a lot of those players. Like the man wanted to trade up for Jayden. I think it’s joes fault for wanting to double down on Daniel jones and not wanting to admit he was wrong. But unfortunately the gm n coach have to go together
I don’t really think it’s Dabols fault like the man is a good coach he gets a lot of those players. Like the man wanted to trade up for Jayden. I think it’s joes fault for wanting to double down on Daniel jones and not wanting to admit he was wrong. But unfortunately the gm n coach have to go together
Yo I just found this channel today and after just 30 minutes of listening, I hit that subscribe button. Keep doing your thing bro. I must’ve been sleeping under a rock because I cannot understand how I didn’t find this channel earlier
Glad you found us. 🫡
Mad respect homie - as soon as you said "I'm surprised you're all still showing up to these" I smashed that like button
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You hit the nail right on the head Awthentik. I said to a friend of mine if the Giants had said from jump this a rebuild we would have accepted it but after numerous bad moves by Schoen and the ineptitude at QB and head coach is a an outright disgrace and the playoff run was badly overrated and over valued by this team.
I consider myself a savvy Giants fan. But, I admit Schoen convinced me that Safety and RB didn’t matter. Boy was I sold a bill of goods. Embarrassing.
Saquon got DJ paid.
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The reason why teams are taking neighbors out of games is because they know Daniel Jones can only make a handful of throws which are intermediate throws on the field, that's it no accurate deep ball , no fade route , no throws Daniel Jones can throw on a regular basis
Mara babies Daniel Jones like he’s his own nephew.
Why does it seem so hard for many podcasters to admit Jones is a bad QB. Why does it seem like they have to force it out of their mouths. I thought he was lousy going back to Duke. Why does this guy get so much slack.
Couldn’t even tell ya. It’s strange behavior.
The Giants have had plenty of talent. Just mismanaged
Jones has more swag and Moxie than Eli had. Tiki said that players like Shockey and other veterans used to laugh at Eli in the huddle when he tried to rally the troops
Not saying much. Thats why the Giants tried to get Eli’s clone. But something went wrong in the lab
What are you talking about lol
authenthink can we also give a shout out to Sterling Shepard over on Tampa Bay bucks , playing well having fun winning with a QB that can get him the ball Shepard deserves a winning season before he retires so many guys we let go with so much still in the tank
There’s no doubt about it. It’s the quarterback. DJ era needs to be over with. Sorry I missed this livestream.
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My only issue with Daboll is that he was shaken after the cowboys loss 40-0. He hasn’t been the same since. That year instead of tanking in the best draft class in years @ 2 and 6 Daboll used his magic on DeVito and fucking won meaningless games. He is visibly shaken.
This team isn’t as far off as most people think it’s just that Jones is absolutely useless. If you switched Jones and any or the premier QB’s let’s say the Bills, Chiefs, Chargers…I’d say the other team would be awful and not be able to produce any offense and the Giants would be contending for the playoffs, and the Giants aren’t a finished product by any means. They lost all close games except the Vikings and the Eagles. Daniel Jones is absolutely THE DIFFERENCE in those games. When you build a team your foundational pieces should generally be QB, tackle especially the blind side, pass rusher, CB and WR. If you’ve noticed these guys have poured almost all of their premium assets (high draft picks and big contracts) into those position groups. Have they gotten it right or are they good enough to do it? That’s a whole other argument but they do appear to have a clue and a plan at the very least. Paying Barkley and McKinney would have made no sense because they wouldn’t have been able to turn around and afford the assets at those premier positions so that’s why they are trying to fill those roles through the draft or at least with moderately priced free agents on the younger end.
Now Brian Daboll and his ego are absolutely a problem. In 2022 Wink Martindale and Mike Kafka were the main reason they made the playoffs that year imo. Mike Kafka had better game plans and was a better play caller because he understood Jones is a slow mental processor so he tailored his offense to help that and also got him out of the pocket to help with his atrocious pocket awareness. Brian Dabolls ego causing him and Wink Martindale to hate his guts and leave, now they half defensive players tailored to Winks scheme which is totally different that Shane Bowens. It also caused to top defensive candidates to turn down the job. This is part of the problem here and i figured it would be. Brian Daboll absolutely deserves this, I’d like to ask him where all his cigars are now?
Now like you said…do you turn it all over again and restart this whole mess and disaster? You could make the case that Schoen poor drafting and Dabols ego deserve that but that’s probably going to set them back years as the new regime cleans out a lot of these players and position coaches with their own plan and we are getting to a point where if we had a premium QB like Cam Ward appears to be, we can probably contend year in and year out with a younger roster. Keep up the good work A, we may not always agree but that’s the beauty of opinions. You have a good show.
Also i think they may have waited for a bad defense to start Evan Neal and give Eleumanor a couple weeks to practice on the left but who knows. Neal still looked bad against the pass rush the Panthers just have a bunch of scrubs.
My only issue with Daboll is that he was shaken after the cowboys loss 40-0. He hasn’t been the same since. That year instead of tanking in the best draft class in years @ 2 and 6 Daboll used his magic on DeVito and fucking won meaningless games. He is visibly shaken. Now he won’t do the same for Lock
23:52 you know when awthentik says this, we in for a long one 😂
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Absolutely agree on Burns. We would have been much better off rebuilding with 3 $10m solid players and using the 2nd round pick on Lassiter or McKinsey. So, why?
Yeah it’s a tough one. Burns is a good player but it was an interesting signing. Not mad he’s here but it’s a head scratcher for now
Darnold has worse career stats than DJ and he’s been playing bad the last few weeks after his all pro tackle got hurt. Sam ain’t it
Sam is better than Jones.
Much better
Jones isn't a starting caliber QB in the NFL. Name me 5 other teams that could use Daniel Jones as their starting QB today at this very moment..
Joe Schoen must go. He’s too much like another Mara family member!
The 2022 season, DJ won a playoff game with the easiest schedule possible against and very bad Vikings team. DJ was 4th worse DJ in the redzone and 3rd down conversion. But somehow he got a contract. I understand Saquon was hurt and is a high risk, and if your rebuilding, you take the QB. Yet, I believe John Mara made the decision to sign DJ not Joe Schoen. Remember, if Joe wants to continue, he'll have to play ball like every other GM. This is true about Joe, he's cleaned up the financial dumpster fire left behind by David Gettleman. John Mara also is to blame stemming back to the 2014 season getting rid of Tom Coughlin. 2015 season was the start of this nightmare that singlehandedly John Mara created. With that said, he learned to stay out. Joe Schoen now coming into the 2025 season, he has 8 draft picks, parting ways with DJ and can certainly have a much improved team next season!
I don’t really think it’s Dabols fault like the man is a good coach he gets a lot of those players. Like the man wanted to trade up for Jayden. I think it’s joes fault for wanting to double down on Daniel jones and not wanting to admit he was wrong. But unfortunately the gm n coach have to go together
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I don’t really think it’s Dabols fault like the man is a good coach he gets a lot of those players. Like the man wanted to trade up for Jayden. I think it’s joes fault for wanting to double down on Daniel jones and not wanting to admit he was wrong. But unfortunately the gm n coach have to go together