I'm not sure if I was flying that day but I logged a good many hours over 3 yrs as an instructor in type in XA-UPL with the approval of the Mexican CAA. Convairs were the first large, crewed aircraft I flew early in my career. I flew the 580 for Frontier Commuter and Aspen and after 20 more years flying 727s, DC8s and A300s I returned to the 580 as an instructor in central Mexico. Thanks for the memory.
Man oh man do I love these aircraft big-time :) still have 7 of these operating in New Zealand and it's always a treat to see the beautiful smoky Alison engines in action LIKED
Hermoso y potente avión; tuve la suerte de ser tripulante de éste corcel indomable y noble en AVENSA Línea Aérea Venezolana de sin igual prestigio...Honor al mejor turboprop...!
UAL means United Airlines. trfc means traffic. I thanked SpeedbirdHD for putting the United Airlines airplane in the video because I thought it was nice. You have been blocked for your behavior and because you aren't understanding my comment. I love the Mexican people and I especially love their airplanes. It would do you well to learn more about aviation.
originally this would have two Pratt&Whitney R-2800 Double Wasp 18 cylinder air-cooled radial engines and 3 bladed Hamilton standard or Curtiss Props. as the Allison 501 turboprops and a Garrett Research APU designated it as the CV 580 there was another turboprop conversion it used two Rolls Royce Dart Turboprops. these old Convairs are still being used today and by the FAA. the Allison 501 powered the Lockheed Electra and the C-130 Hurcules
The AiResearch turboshaft engine installed in most most 580s was actually a GTC, a gas turbine compressor, as distinguished from an APU which had the additional feature of an electrical generator installed to provide electrical power to the airplane on the ground, as well as compressed air for the engine starters. One airline operator I know of did have APUs in place of the GTC, but I cannot remember exactly which one it was. I believe it was North Central Airlines, but it may have been Ozark. I learned of this when I made a trip to repair a Frontier 580 at an airport that was also served by the other carrier. Noticing air duct openings on the "tub" of the right QEC on a parked 580, I inquired and learned that the duct was for cooling air to the generator on the APU, which explained why the unit was running while no engine start was in progress. The Dart-engined Convairs were CV-240 airframes with RR Rda-10 engines and AiResearch APUs. I maintained them at Central Airlines.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH TALK OF MEXICO OR THE MEXICAN BUT I RECOMMEND YOU TO READ WELL ANOTHER COMMENT THAT THEY MADE A MEXICAN AIRCRAFT FLIGHT TO thrown at UAL AND THAT IS FALSE AND UNFOUNDED, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU GET INTO YOUR BUSINESS AND DO NOT LOOK A PROBLEM.
Back in the late 1950's & into the 60's most major & regional airlines used these on feeder routes & some had upgraded to these as they retired DC-3's.. (As did Trans-Texas Airlines which was merged into Continental Airlines.)..
North Central and Republic had a bunch of these in the north central USA on lower volume routes. Right up to the Northwest merger, then they all disappeared seemingly overnight. They were loud but in cruddy weather they always got me home.
At one time, there were quite a few of these beasts in service in the USA, and I flew many a mile in them. With 7500 horsepower available for takeoff, the CV-580 would really plant you into your seat as it accelerated down the runway. The only thing bad about the plane was the prop noise was very intense, no matter where you sat in the cabin. Good luck on getting any sleep! ☻
Amen to that. Strangely enough, the 580's little brother, the Convair 600 equipped with Rolls Royce turboprops, was exceedingly smooth and reasonably quiet in the cabin. Accutosmed to flying on the 600s, the first trip I took on a 580 left me convinced that the propellers were not only horribly unbalanced, but also had the blades installed at random, differing pitch angles. Turns out that was a perfectly normal 580. Despite its superior ride, the 600s did not have the engine performance necessary to carry a heavy load out of a high-elevation airport, so it fell out of favor. The 580 would carry anything anywhere, reliably delivering shell-shocked and airsick passengers to their destinations to rest and recover. Pilots and mechanics loved the 580, flight attendants hated them.
IF I AM SENSITIVE WHEN COMMENTS ARE MY COUNTRY OR AIRCRAFT WITH REGISTRATION OF MY COUNTRY FRIEND, YOU SAID MEXICAN AIRCRAFT WITH REGISTRATION UAL pulling AND THAT IS FALSE AND UNFOUNDED, THAT'S MY COMMENT TO YOU, AND PROUD OF YOU LES YOUR FLAG AND ANTHEM AND OTHER THINGS, WE ARE THE SAME MEXICANS.
+Paul Hebert The Convair 340 originally had Pratt & Whitney R-2800 piston engines of 2400 horsepower each. In the mid-60s, many Convairs were converted to the CV-580 configuration with Allison 501-D13H turboprop engines, 3750 horsepower. United purchased and operated this plane as a CV-340; Allegheny Airlines operated it as a CV-580.
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I would much rather fly on the old turboprops than any modern jet today
I LOVED flying the CV 580 aka C131H.
Love this plane-flew many times on Frontier out of OMA to central Nebraska
I'm not sure if I was flying that day but I logged a good many hours over 3 yrs as an instructor in type in XA-UPL with the approval of the Mexican CAA. Convairs were the first large, crewed aircraft I flew early in my career. I flew the 580 for Frontier Commuter and Aspen and after 20 more years flying 727s, DC8s and A300s I returned to the 580 as an instructor in central Mexico. Thanks for the memory.
I love this aircraft
With the Allison 501 engines, it looks and sounds just like a "baby Electra" with only two engines. Nice!
Man oh man do I love these aircraft big-time :) still have 7 of these operating in New Zealand and it's always a treat to see the beautiful smoky Alison engines in action LIKED
Hermoso y potente avión; tuve la suerte de ser tripulante de éste corcel indomable y noble en AVENSA Línea Aérea Venezolana de sin igual prestigio...Honor al mejor turboprop...!
Great job & awesome old jetprop aircraft. Congrats!
Working on these 5 days a week in Waterford MI. for IFL Group....largest fleet of 580s and 5800 Stretch's still working hard!
A classic. She looks in mint condition. Great to see one again.
The plane is from 1952, the Allison engines were added like 15 years later
you are overly sensitive. the aircraft is a classic and it has a mexican reg#.
UAL means United Airlines. trfc means traffic. I thanked SpeedbirdHD for putting the United Airlines airplane in the video because I thought it was nice. You have been blocked for your behavior and because you aren't understanding my comment. I love the Mexican people and I especially love their airplanes. It would do you well to learn more about aviation.
I was lucky enough to ride around in these many years ago, and unlucky enough to do airframe repairs on two of them 20 years ago. Beautiful aircraft.
First airplane I ever flew in North Central Airlines. I love their sound
When I read the term Speedbird, I hear it in a British accent.
We don't get ANY Convairs so to me it was rare
Excelente video. Saludos desde Barcelona, Venezuela.
Look those prop blades, fantastic!
Really cool video. I always wanted to catch the Convair at LAX but it comes in late (11 pm) and leaves early (2 am).
mexican plane XA=MEXICO
classic! mexican reg#. thanks for throwing some UAL trafc in there.
awesome footage of this Bird :) island greetings !
Ó MESMO MOTOR ê HÉLICE DO HERCULES C130, BRASIL OK.
originally this would have two Pratt&Whitney R-2800 Double Wasp 18 cylinder air-cooled radial engines and 3 bladed Hamilton standard or Curtiss Props. as the Allison 501 turboprops and a Garrett Research APU designated it as the CV 580 there was another turboprop conversion it used two Rolls Royce Dart Turboprops. these old Convairs are still being used today and by the FAA. the Allison 501 powered the Lockheed Electra and the C-130 Hurcules
The AiResearch turboshaft engine installed in most most 580s was actually a GTC, a gas turbine compressor, as distinguished from an APU which had the additional feature of an electrical generator installed to provide electrical power to the airplane on the ground, as well as compressed air for the engine starters. One airline operator I know of did have APUs in place of the GTC, but I cannot remember exactly which one it was. I believe it was North Central Airlines, but it may have been Ozark. I learned of this when I made a trip to repair a Frontier 580 at an airport that was also served by the other carrier. Noticing air duct openings on the "tub" of the right QEC on a parked 580, I inquired and learned that the duct was for cooling air to the generator on the APU, which explained why the unit was running while no engine start was in progress.
The Dart-engined Convairs were CV-240 airframes with RR Rda-10 engines and AiResearch APUs. I maintained them at Central Airlines.
And P-3Orion as well👍
And for the last 47 years... the E2 Hawkeye which is STILL made today!
in YVR,we have tons of Convair 340's or 530's
that was Raymond Boulanger airplane
I DO NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH TALK OF MEXICO OR THE MEXICAN BUT I RECOMMEND YOU TO READ WELL ANOTHER COMMENT THAT THEY MADE A MEXICAN AIRCRAFT FLIGHT TO thrown at UAL AND THAT IS FALSE AND UNFOUNDED, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU GET INTO YOUR BUSINESS AND DO NOT LOOK A PROBLEM.
awesome spotting video!!!
Back in the late 1950's & into the 60's most major & regional airlines used these on feeder routes & some had upgraded to these as they retired DC-3's.. (As did Trans-Texas Airlines which was merged into Continental Airlines.)..
what is your problem with the mexican people or eny mexican registry?
because you do not understand I am not going to try to explain anymore.
sweet
That is a rare catch for LAX. In MIA we see them all the time. Awesome video :)
AWESOME!!
thats so true :)
So beautiful in white!!!
That's a Convair 580 (Allison turboprops)
It's flying in 2021 yet
Great video! You always seem to know where aircraft will rotate. I love it!
I work in them sometimes at MIA. They're pretty damn loud!
North Central and Republic had a bunch of these in the north central USA on lower volume routes. Right up to the Northwest merger, then they all disappeared seemingly overnight. They were loud but in cruddy weather they always got me home.
That WHISTLING sound! I will never forget it!
Man we used to make some sweet airplanes. Rode the 580 in Hawaiian Airlines colors growing up. That plane and all its variants were some of the best.
At one time, there were quite a few of these beasts in service in the USA, and I flew many a mile in them. With 7500 horsepower available for takeoff, the CV-580 would really plant you into your seat as it accelerated down the runway.
The only thing bad about the plane was the prop noise was very intense, no matter where you sat in the cabin. Good luck on getting any sleep! ☻
Amen to that. Strangely enough, the 580's little brother, the Convair 600 equipped with Rolls Royce turboprops, was exceedingly smooth and reasonably quiet in the cabin. Accutosmed to flying on the 600s, the first trip I took on a 580 left me convinced that the propellers were not only horribly unbalanced, but also had the blades installed at random, differing pitch angles. Turns out that was a perfectly normal 580. Despite its superior ride, the 600s did not have the engine performance necessary to carry a heavy load out of a high-elevation airport, so it fell out of favor. The 580 would carry anything anywhere, reliably delivering shell-shocked and airsick passengers to their destinations to rest and recover. Pilots and mechanics loved the 580, flight attendants hated them.
Ha! I was about to say something when I saw the title "1952 580". That thing has a lot of power! VERY cool!
genial.
Prop sound at any airport is awesome...love jets but props add that something else.
IF I AM SENSITIVE WHEN COMMENTS ARE MY COUNTRY OR AIRCRAFT WITH REGISTRATION OF MY COUNTRY FRIEND, YOU SAID MEXICAN AIRCRAFT WITH REGISTRATION UAL pulling AND THAT IS FALSE AND UNFOUNDED, THAT'S MY COMMENT TO YOU, AND PROUD OF YOU LES YOUR FLAG AND ANTHEM AND OTHER THINGS, WE ARE THE SAME MEXICANS.
Did these ever have piston engines?
+Paul Hebert The Convair 340 originally had Pratt & Whitney R-2800 piston engines of 2400 horsepower each. In the mid-60s, many Convairs were converted to the CV-580 configuration with Allison 501-D13H turboprop engines, 3750 horsepower. United purchased and operated this plane as a CV-340; Allegheny Airlines operated it as a CV-580.
uno de los mejores aviones.
Rendition flight
it's just the 340's
Purdy!
AlleGOONY.
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What country is XA?
Mexico
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