Thicker oil or heavier springs is not always the correct fix to traction rolling. Sometimes softening your suspension can alleviate traction rolling issues. If your suspension is too stiff it can't do it's job. Another thing you can do is add anti-roll bars, this will help a lot too. Finally a tire change would help too. Going with a firmer front tire will definitely help.
@xrayracer1 You can put the aluminum TRF shocks on if you'd like, the one thing is the bodies of the TRF shocks are a little longer. That means you'll get a little less suspension travel and have to add another 1-2mm of spacers under the piston to reduce ride height.
@Dets6 Yes, those shocks will work and those springs will fit right on there. I was trying to look up the stock 05 v2 Shock's P/N and the description wasn't obvious. I thought what I listed was the shock but the CVA mini shocks will work well. There's also the super-dialed TRF Aluminum shocks too :)
@Dets6 I had to think about this one for a minute. I forgot that this came with friction shocks. I actually used the kit shocks from my TA-05 v2 since I used TRF shocks on there. 50598 I think is the P/N but the ones you listed will work very well.
The biggest problem with the M05 is the steering setup. There's a lot of play and there's even some binding on the left-hand bellcrank that causes the car to feel very darty and makes you feel like you're always overcorrecting. The aftermarket aluminum steering systems eliminate this and turn the car into a whole different animal.
@HorizonRCdotCom I'll admit i have the m05 PRO, so it comes with a lot of the "go fast" bits that you showed in the review, but i must admit i'm not a real fan of the clear oil shocks, they seem brittle. Is it possible to fit the TRF 416/417 threaded shocks to it or will it be an awkward fit?
I drove mine on carpet with those tires and it got so much traction from the compound that was already on the carpet, that it just rolled over in every turn.... smearing black tire residue all over my nice white Cooper top.
@xrayracer1 I totally agree. The M03 had a higher CG, a lot of it was due to the servo placement being very high comparatively. I finished 3rd in Mini at the Novak Race one year and the only reason I didn't finish higher is that I couldn't keep from traction rolling.
Which wheel base should be uaed when building the m05ra chassis kit, which includes the yellow suzuki swift 1600??? The manual says there are 3 wheelsbase setups. But it does NOT mention WHICH one should be used for THIS CAR. Tamiya's website doesnt even mention it. Kind of odd. I guess I can just measure the wheel base of the body but the manual doesnt mention the LENGTH of the 3 wheel base options. Ridiculous!!!Are we supposed to just pick one of the wheelbasea, assemble, and hope it fits? BTW, building this kit takes more than a couple of hours.
@traindude95 Yes they are. The only changes were to springs, oil, tires and inserts. Now for the M-chassis class Tamiya has gone to a premounted tire so that helps to eliminate one piece of the tuning puzzle.
Okay after buying myself one for Christmas, i finally built it and have got it running. I do however have a brushless motor and it hits about 45mph. I noticed with all of that extra power it wheelspins if i pin it on start off and there is loads of understeer when cornering on power. I noticed you said something about anti roll bars. I put it mostly down to stock tires and the stock friction suspension. I have a full ball bearing conversion too. So any advice to make it handle better? I love the characteristics of the cornering but i don't want that much scale authenticity. Also, i have it on the short wheelbase. I tried the body and it looked like i could do with going up to medium. Did you have to do that?
hey there. I was trying to make my car to have the exact spec as yours. As I was looking for the red springs(4pcs), I came across a confusion. Which red springs did you use from, the #53440 or #53163?
One of the main things i love about my m05 is that there is no traction roll, when i would put "sticky" tires on my old m03 it would always traction roll no matter what changes i would make to the set up.
@HorizonRCdotCom I just bought the kit and in the midst of building it so I wish to upgrade where necessary. I heard you mentioned in the video that they suggested the oil damper but wasn't clear which model.will the red springs suits the #53619? tq
You can as the packs I was using were LiPo. The main thing is you'll need to use "rounded" packs, meaning packs that replicate the look of a 6-cell NiMH "Stick" pack to fit in the chassis.
yeah thats true. i didnt think of anti-roll bars. i was just thinking of those rtr short course trucks that have exessive body roll. i'll admit that short course trucks are'nt my forte', i've just finished building my factory team sc10.
cheers! ive just won one of these good to know what im getting. any idea if i would be able to get different body styles for this chassis and where from?
hi there mate i love this vid as i just got one of these models ,but i got lil confused with the set up for med chassie setting is there any vids on how to swap these round ?
Nice review. Next time you're in southern california, I'll shoot your video for you instead of having to shoot it yourself. I'm a pro and I'll do it for a model!
If you're looking at TCS racing all of the classes except one, the Spec/Rookie class, have gone to brushless motors. Regarding tuning parts they're optional. Tamiya also has their TRF line of race vehicles that, while more expensive on the front end, include just about all the option parts you'd want in one box.
Thicker oil or heavier springs is not always the correct fix to traction rolling. Sometimes softening your suspension can alleviate traction rolling issues. If your suspension is too stiff it can't do it's job. Another thing you can do is add anti-roll bars, this will help a lot too. Finally a tire change would help too. Going with a firmer front tire will definitely help.
I just bought one last night and can't wait to run it. Thanks for the video !
@xrayracer1 You can put the aluminum TRF shocks on if you'd like, the one thing is the bodies of the TRF shocks are a little longer. That means you'll get a little less suspension travel and have to add another 1-2mm of spacers under the piston to reduce ride height.
@Dets6 Yes, those shocks will work and those springs will fit right on there. I was trying to look up the stock 05 v2 Shock's P/N and the description wasn't obvious. I thought what I listed was the shock but the CVA mini shocks will work well. There's also the super-dialed TRF Aluminum shocks too :)
@Dets6 I had to think about this one for a minute. I forgot that this came with friction shocks. I actually used the kit shocks from my TA-05 v2 since I used TRF shocks on there. 50598 I think is the P/N but the ones you listed will work very well.
The biggest problem with the M05 is the steering setup. There's a lot of play and there's even some binding on the left-hand bellcrank that causes the car to feel very darty and makes you feel like you're always overcorrecting. The aftermarket aluminum steering systems eliminate this and turn the car into a whole different animal.
@HorizonRCdotCom I'll admit i have the m05 PRO, so it comes with a lot of the "go fast" bits that you showed in the review, but i must admit i'm not a real fan of the clear oil shocks, they seem brittle. Is it possible to fit the TRF 416/417 threaded shocks to it or will it be an awkward fit?
I drove mine on carpet with those tires and it got so much traction from the compound that was already on the carpet, that it just rolled over in every turn.... smearing black tire residue all over my nice white Cooper top.
Quick question; would the shell from the m-03 mini fit the chassis of the M-05?
Cheers
Hello, I really enjoyed watching your reviews. They have been most helpful. Keep up the good work.
@xrayracer1 I totally agree. The M03 had a higher CG, a lot of it was due to the servo placement being very high comparatively. I finished 3rd in Mini at the Novak Race one year and the only reason I didn't finish higher is that I couldn't keep from traction rolling.
Which wheel base should be uaed when building the m05ra chassis kit, which includes the yellow suzuki swift 1600???
The manual says there are 3 wheelsbase setups. But it does NOT mention WHICH one should be used for THIS CAR. Tamiya's website doesnt even mention it. Kind of odd. I guess I can just measure the wheel base of the body but the manual doesnt mention the LENGTH of the 3 wheel base options. Ridiculous!!!Are we supposed to just pick one of the wheelbasea, assemble, and hope it fits? BTW, building this kit takes more than a couple of hours.
@traindude95 Yes they are. The only changes were to springs, oil, tires and inserts. Now for the M-chassis class Tamiya has gone to a premounted tire so that helps to eliminate one piece of the tuning puzzle.
@timbulb This was a re-upload of the original video. There was a technical issue that required us to re-upload the video.
Okay after buying myself one for Christmas, i finally built it and have got it running. I do however have a brushless motor and it hits about 45mph. I noticed with all of that extra power it wheelspins if i pin it on start off and there is loads of understeer when cornering on power. I noticed you said something about anti roll bars. I put it mostly down to stock tires and the stock friction suspension. I have a full ball bearing conversion too. So any advice to make it handle better? I love the characteristics of the cornering but i don't want that much scale authenticity. Also, i have it on the short wheelbase. I tried the body and it looked like i could do with going up to medium. Did you have to do that?
PommyDownUnder98 put a ball diff and oil shocks on any m series car. They instantly turn into racing machines.
Nothing that we've done but I would check out TamiyaUSA's website to see if they have anything.
hi, forgot to ask earlier, what 2cell lipo did you use in this video? thanks
hey there. I was trying to make my car to have the exact spec as yours. As I was looking for the red springs(4pcs), I came across a confusion. Which red springs did you use from, the #53440 or #53163?
We’re about to start racing these at my local track 😎
One of the main things i love about my m05 is that there is no traction roll, when i would put "sticky" tires on my old m03 it would always traction roll no matter what changes i would make to the set up.
@HorizonRCdotCom
I just bought the kit and in the midst of building it so I wish to upgrade where necessary. I heard you mentioned in the video that they suggested the oil damper but wasn't clear which model.will the red springs suits the #53619? tq
@timbulb If they actually were cutoffs perhaps but they're not.
thanks, as for the shock, are you using the tamiya #53619?
Horizon Hobby and Tower Hobbies are two different companies that are not associated with each other.
@bradykhuber Yes it would, although for the price you may want to check out the DX3C too!
Nice review. What shock oil did you use on the car? do you have the part number?tq
@Tmaxxnc Yes, the M05 is front wheel drive.
You can as the packs I was using were LiPo. The main thing is you'll need to use "rounded" packs, meaning packs that replicate the look of a 6-cell NiMH "Stick" pack to fit in the chassis.
Hi what is the best battery to get for it so it lasts the longest
yeah thats true. i didnt think of anti-roll bars. i was just thinking of those rtr short course trucks that have exessive body roll. i'll admit that short course trucks are'nt my forte', i've just finished building my factory team sc10.
cheers! ive just won one of these good to know what im getting. any idea if i would be able to get different body styles for this chassis and where from?
@lloydy2211 Out-of-the-box speeds would be about 25-30MPH
hi there mate i love this vid as i just got one of these models ,but i got lil confused with the set up for med chassie setting is there any vids on how to swap these round ?
Great review, I really enjoyed watching it! :D
@Dets6 I used Losi 40WT oil, LOSA5226
How does it compare to M03 please
THANKS does it matter how many mh the lipo has.
thanks
are all of these mods tcs mini legal?
@markbob917 Yes, most M-Chassis bodies should fit.
@HHewson626 It's my favorite track I have ever run on, I have never denied it.
Thanks!
the tire wear is fast??
I love that model of car
can you use 7.4 4000mh lipo with that esc and motor?
Really enjoy your rewiews thank you :)
Try a thicker shock oil, or "heavier" springs.
Why not review the M06 since it's the latest release? The M05 is like 2 years years old.
have you ever given a negative review?
Nice review. Next time you're in southern california, I'll shoot your video for you instead of having to shoot it yourself. I'm a pro and I'll do it for a model!
Aren't these the small c.v.a. shocks at 1:57?
Small/mini I think can be used interchangeably.
@HorizonRCdotCom
Hey, thanks for the recommendation. If I have greater budget,ill get the #53619 else the #50598. Keep up the good work man, cheers!
I love the chassis designs of Tamiya, but the brushed motors and need of tuning parts is disturbing...
If you're looking at TCS racing all of the classes except one, the Spec/Rookie class, have gone to brushless motors. Regarding tuning parts they're optional. Tamiya also has their TRF line of race vehicles that, while more expensive on the front end, include just about all the option parts you'd want in one box.
HOW MANY MPH DOES IT GO
As-equipped you're looking about 25-30MPH.
Horizon Hobby pretty good...
@HorizonRCdotCom Does that explain the unevenly cut-off jeans shorts? haha not really.
FWD?
what they should do is mount a tiny camera inside the cockpit of these things...and then drive it remotely by watching the feed....
@HorizonRCdotCom
#50598 is a damper collar (CVA MINI SHOCK UNIT II V)
why dont you guys sell on tower hobbies?
he did lol, nice catch
your a dude! awesome! insane! WOW!
DID HE SAY 60 TON servo WTF!
must mean 5kg!
Why not just have all 3 against each other so this a car you could have not what you get what a surprise. .. god do they need help ...just saying
Great video and review! But for hd it looks awful.
And Tamiya should ditch their stupid throwaway friction shocks and plastic bushings, from ALL kits. They are such a waste.
Supah slw
Can't stand this guy.
Yeah, he sounds too sweet and cozy... ja ja!