My only problem with set is it's really hard to tell what he's doing sometimes. Whether he's autoing, using an ability; it feels as though his animations are either super short or super janky. But I've only see the one video so maybe I just need to get used to it.
Since Horus 3 can follow ally mobility and as far as I know backs. I think Horus+Athena gonna be strong, the enemy can't tell who is what, since both go Supp/Jgl/Solo and Horus should at least in theory follow the Athena Ult across the map.
I doubt it works like that because you’d probably get blocked off my walls and it’d cause a lot of bugged interactions or could potentially bring you to places along the way that wouldn’t be ideal. Also Daji teleport functions the same way as his 3 and can’t follow Athena so I doubt it
Ravenous I don’t think when he goes through it, I could be wrong. It might get canceled like how it does for like nu wa for fog or doscordia leap because they are registered as untargetable and I’d assume when he goes through that split second it’s a similar effect of being untargetable until he reaches the other side
I feel the most effective clear, at least at level two, is to dash the wave and try to hit your opponent to get minion aggro. Group the wave to hit them with both parts of your 1.
can we stay at 0 subscribers with no videos? Wait did u mean that Arthur is in high solo demand or that Arthur support is a good pick? If the latter, it’s funny, if not it’s not
Doesn’t look like he will be dude his clear sux. I think hi rez are pushing for more variety in duo lane with magicak carries and physical support picks
Horus as a solo is just awful. I tried him today and even with his 1 maxed it doesn’t clear shit in lane. I found my self always having to play back since I was getting outcleared so easily. His 1 maxed only makes archers half hp and nothing more. He’s a support 100%. His ult and his heal proves that. Idk why they make him a warrior
I'll be taking him solo, bc I really don't have a solo laner anymore and bc he looks like a lot of fun...(was swk, but I'm not comfortable with him atm)
I find that the warrior/guardian classifications are stupid and limited personally. They're both generally tanky and have CC, the only major difference is magic damage vs. physical. No reason a guardian 100% MUST be a support and the only support option available in my opinion.
@@eewweeppkk guardians are their to protect. Warriors are their to disrupt and dmg. Guardians are hard cc whilst warriors generally use soft cc. Problem is hirez are useless at correctly classing gods.
@@thatsnotgonewellatall5517 No the problem is that having such strict class restrictions limits design. Why do we need such cookie cutter roles and predetermined positions for classes? It serves no purpose besides a 'general' feel for where they would probably be good at. The fact that some gods already don't fit that role and some never have in the first place is just a testament to the fact that its a useless system, and breaking the mold isn't just fine; its preferable.
You can tell they tried _really_ hard making Horus ult not-gamebreaking. Such a long charge, such a slow movement speed midair, it's really underwhelming in practice, despite sounding amazing. It needs major buffs to be used the way they wanted it. Right now the only _good_ uses for it are for objective damage; if you wanted to gank you might as well just save the ult and run in normally.
I’d probably go with soul eater at least. All that ability heal, plus the added damage would be nice. If going solo, SOME damage is nice. Or even masamune... something to make your damage/heals larger
I agree about seeing Horus in the support role more than anything. Maybe solo bruiser or jungler because he does good damage. I don't see him being mid or carry though, for sure.
@9:05 the wind gust does 50+ 100% of your auto attack damage. It also does bonus damage if you use it immediately after your knock up. Also It can crit and it procs hydras so it is definitely the highest damaging ability.
Horus will probably be best put into jungle, a case of "sure he can solo/support just fine" but like: Updraft is 160% (+50% again) scaling on an ability with hard CC, with the potential to be boosted by Hydras and Runeforged. You don't need to level this ability for it to do damage, instead level the ability that hard stuns into a protection shred for even more damage. All this setup potential and bust damage? Oh baby where's my mid I feel like a duo gank.
I'll still buy it on the good ol' Chaac, because it's too fun not to....and he does no damage late game without it. But gone are the days of the hammer build being somewhat viable on questionable characters with those nerfs *COUGH* nemesis *COUGH*. I'm sure it's still decent as a meme build or just to switch things up for fun, but.... competitively? Seems like that's definitely over now.
You should probably note that the wind gust in the 1 is scaled to 100% BASIC ATTACK damage, not sure if you knew this in the video but you mentioned it as scaled by power. As well as that I think you underestimate it's use over the 2 considering leveling it does lower it's cooldown and clear a lot better with the gust and the knockup (either used on the front minions and throwing the gust or by grouping the wave after hitting the enemy God), perhaps even using the 2 to group wave by hitting the enemy and moving them together. Also considering his passive and his inherent sustain, he should generally be a better solo than quite a few laners, regardless of his kit. Think his laning strength could be compared to guan, considering his heal, the protection cleave on his 2. If you include his strong setup and lockdown, which also means you cannot be fought while performing it, will typically mean you will win trades by disengaging after your kit is down. To sum it up, don't think he's bad in solo at all. P.S. the x1.5 increase damage on knockuped enemies is nutty. Also I just heard to you refer to the basic attack scaling later in the video but it still means that the damage of the 1 is higher than you think.
He said "100% power" because it means the same thing. Your basic attacks scale at 100% of your power, so an ability that scales on basic attack damage is going to be _very_ close to 100% power scaling. Basic attack damage typically only adds 10-15 flat damage.
@@dragontyron Considering he has 39 basic attack power in the early game with 0 power, extra damage on top of the wind gust + a x1.5 increase in damage on the combo is a lot more relevant. The numbers aren't close and they should definitely be properly considered. Which is exactly why you level the 1 and the more power you go simply makes the 1 that much better because of the actual damage numbers of the wind gust. Scaling of 39 damage at the start of the game is a lot more relevant than 0.
@@ravenous3424 I don't disagree on the 1 being better. It was definitely intended to be his clear ability. I was just clarifying the "100% power" comment.
Max the one and build berserkers shield, the line after the knockup is an auto and does extra damage, idk why you don’t max the 1 and then the heal straight after
"Generally speaking when you have really long cooldowns its not worth build cooldown reduction." Im confused, doesn't that make cdr more worth? Cdr is percentage base not flat, so the longer the cooldowns the more seconds you are getting off of your abilities and vice versa. If you had a 1 sec cd on one gods ability 40 percent cdr would shave 0.4s off that cooldown. But if you had a 10 sec ability cd on another god, 40 percent cdr would take off 4 whole seconds. You get more bang for your buck in that sense. Anyway great vid mast.
I thought it didn't work for knockups, knockbacks, and blinds...which idk why it even says blinds seeing as how ra is the only character with a blind and runeforge is a physical item
If you going to say "don't be salty" because it's a PTS over and over, also keep pondering over whatCabrakan said for 10 mins, I actually not sure who is salty in this scenario.
He means in comparison to other warriors that build no dmg but can harrass a team. Like full tank tyr, arthur, osiris all have better dps, his kit is just more passive in the dps department
Ive always thought Nike was underwhelming. Especially when I solo against one and the play passive. Now even more so then ever with King and Horus as viable picks.
She’s always going to be comparatively weak in Solo. She does nothing stellar, but it’s simple game play for the most part and her ultimate is somewhat valuable. Her passive is really strong for turning the tables provided you and your team are matched well enough to take full advantage of it. At the same time, I know I always feel like she needs more. Maybe a rework to her 2 so that it has a specific buff duration that is consumed by your next ability (when used during its duration) but otherwise empowers your basic attacks while active. I also think that her ult should also grant her and her allies a buff to power (allies only if they are in range during its animation). Currently try to build ancile, midgardian, and mantle of discord to try to shore up her peel and overall usefulness)
I wouldn't say the best support ultimate. It's a different ult but in terms of utility I'd give that to slyvanus. Can't beat a giant knockup with alot of damage my guy
I went back in because you didn’t make a call out on your ult so I thought you were still fighting and I went to peel :/ vgs is there for a reason man...
The ult is silent and the fight was cluttered, I stayed in to peel because I thought you were still there and next thing I see is you teleport out, can’t read your mind dude...
Side note from this video, played like 10 Set games yesterday, absolutely in love with the god rn and fragging my brains out.
you carried me. but i threw as horus mid lmao
Gib second Set vid pls
My only problem with set is it's really hard to tell what he's doing sometimes. Whether he's autoing, using an ability; it feels as though his animations are either super short or super janky. But I've only see the one video so maybe I just need to get used to it.
yay cant wait for more
I felt like you enjoyed yourself. So fuck everyone else.
I like Horus a lot because he's not another offensive billion damage warrior. His support-oriented kit is a nice change.
He's kinda like Sun wukong if you ask me.....
@@aquacyanide horus is more like amaturasu
ur supposed to level the 1 its best clear and best damage
omg mast you need to try a Horus heal with Athena ULT see if you can get the ability to go across the map
Nicky Molfino would love to see that 😂
try this shit right now
Horus 3 on an Athena, ulting a Thor in his ult with a Nox inside ganking with an invis Loki.
im down
Or the teleport relic
Base damage in this guy is low, but his scaling is amazing so with no power he wont do any damage. Hybrid/full damage on this dude frags
i like how he said rude to his blue buff getting stolen when just a couple seconds before he saw the isis doing the blue buff and miss her ability
I was low-key hoping you would've built him full DMG
Since Horus 3 can follow ally mobility and as far as I know backs.
I think Horus+Athena gonna be strong, the enemy can't tell who is what, since both go Supp/Jgl/Solo and Horus should at least in theory follow the Athena Ult across the map.
THAT IDEA IS NUTTY
I doubt it works like that because you’d probably get blocked off my walls and it’d cause a lot of bugged interactions or could potentially bring you to places along the way that wouldn’t be ideal. Also Daji teleport functions the same way as his 3 and can’t follow Athena so I doubt it
@@LikeADerp99 does da ji 3 follow Janus through portals?
Ravenous I don’t think when he goes through it, I could be wrong. It might get canceled like how it does for like nu wa for fog or doscordia leap because they are registered as untargetable and I’d assume when he goes through that split second it’s a similar effect of being untargetable until he reaches the other side
Horus 1 damage is higher than his 2 (but you have to land both parts) but most of the 1 damage come from scaling not the base so idk.
Best video on Horus yet!
Also, aracne mid legit OP 😂 always get first blood, just gotta ward their speed rotation
I thought Horus was a guardian
No
Merby Kribmath u
I feel the most effective clear, at least at level two, is to dash the wave and try to hit your opponent to get minion aggro. Group the wave to hit them with both parts of your 1.
Finally I’ve been waiting on you to play Horus
I really hope solo horus doesnt find himself in high solo lane demand. As a supp main we really dont get much for picks.
Don't worry, Arthur still exists.
can we stay at 0 subscribers with no videos? 😂
can we stay at 0 subscribers with no videos? Wait did u mean that Arthur is in high solo demand or that Arthur support is a good pick? If the latter, it’s funny, if not it’s not
Doesn’t look like he will be dude his clear sux. I think hi rez are pushing for more variety in duo lane with magicak carries and physical support picks
@@phra2545 Arthurs played on solo a lot yeah. Hes pretty dumb op imo lol.
Horus as a solo is just awful. I tried him today and even with his 1 maxed it doesn’t clear shit in lane. I found my self always having to play back since I was getting outcleared so easily. His 1 maxed only makes archers half hp and nothing more. He’s a support 100%. His ult and his heal proves that. Idk why they make him a warrior
Same. I just played against an Jormungandr solo and got completely destroyed
feel like Horus is easier to use than set and probably has a less max potential cap on learning him, defo has a lot of potential damage
for sure, Horus is pretty simple aside from his ultimate but Set has much more mechanics to think about
I love the music from the intro
I'll be taking him solo, bc I really don't have a solo laner anymore and bc he looks like a lot of fun...(was swk, but I'm not comfortable with him atm)
Try chaac hes a beast aswell hes my first warrior diamond lol
You really cant go wrong with any warrior besides Nike and chaac.
Update: I'd like to withdrawal my previous comment, as I did not realize that he was *exclusively* a physical support....
so, horus is a support then.the entire kit is just team set up and heals. so why is he a warrior. and johrns a guardian. hirez are loony
that's not gone well at all it’s legit just so that Horus can build Physical Items
@@khesora9579 seems legit
I find that the warrior/guardian classifications are stupid and limited personally. They're both generally tanky and have CC, the only major difference is magic damage vs. physical. No reason a guardian 100% MUST be a support and the only support option available in my opinion.
@@eewweeppkk guardians are their to protect. Warriors are their to disrupt and dmg. Guardians are hard cc whilst warriors generally use soft cc. Problem is hirez are useless at correctly classing gods.
@@thatsnotgonewellatall5517 No the problem is that having such strict class restrictions limits design. Why do we need such cookie cutter roles and predetermined positions for classes? It serves no purpose besides a 'general' feel for where they would probably be good at. The fact that some gods already don't fit that role and some never have in the first place is just a testament to the fact that its a useless system, and breaking the mold isn't just fine; its preferable.
LMAO! Loved that finish!
You can tell they tried _really_ hard making Horus ult not-gamebreaking. Such a long charge, such a slow movement speed midair, it's really underwhelming in practice, despite sounding amazing. It needs major buffs to be used the way they wanted it. Right now the only _good_ uses for it are for objective damage; if you wanted to gank you might as well just save the ult and run in normally.
dragontyron the problem is that they can’t buff his ult without nerfing his other abilities
Honestly kinda surprised they didn't make Horus levitate above the ground. It would fit his character very well
Can't use wings to fly and smack people at the same time I would think
Just a reminder to everyone 2x everything this weekend and I cant wait for the 30th
What do you mean by 2x everything? And what about the 30th? (Is their double XP this weekend or something?)
@@bwasim9348 this weekend you get 2x worshipers, xp, and favor. The 30th is when horus and set come out. Get to grinding brotha!
As an FYI you can’t see Horus in the sky, and they only see the landing channel last 1 of the 2 seconds.
I’d probably go with soul eater at least. All that ability heal, plus the added damage would be nice. If going solo, SOME damage is nice. Or even masamune... something to make your damage/heals larger
Mast. You do realize that the Horus 1 does 1.5 extra damage on the line attack if they're knocked up. So it does do a lot of damage
Benjamin Blank does it amplify hydras damage??
Love Horus’ wings. He looks sickkk
nice as always
I agree about seeing Horus in the support role more than anything. Maybe solo bruiser or jungler because he does good damage. I don't see him being mid or carry though, for sure.
Love your videos
"I don't think horus will be good in solo" -complete bots the best guardian solo-
Father Mast finally uploaded a video of bird daddy
The 1 is definitely the first ability to level up IMO. It has higher damage and better clear.
@9:05 the wind gust does 50+ 100% of your auto attack damage. It also does bonus damage if you use it immediately after your knock up. Also It can crit and it procs hydras so it is definitely the highest damaging ability.
I was wondering if you have tried the soul eater and glad shield build on him.
Enemies only get a 1 second warning. The 2 second channel is so your allies know.
He heals the minions?
YEAH BABY TIME FOR BIRDMAN
Horus will probably be best put into jungle, a case of "sure he can solo/support just fine" but like: Updraft is 160% (+50% again) scaling on an ability with hard CC, with the potential to be boosted by Hydras and Runeforged. You don't need to level this ability for it to do damage, instead level the ability that hard stuns into a protection shred for even more damage. All this setup potential and bust damage? Oh baby where's my mid I feel like a duo gank.
The most impressive thing here is that he managed to get into a game in PTS
Do you think popping shell before Ulting would help escape or in a team fight? I think it would
The lack of Runeforged in EVERY SINGLE HORUS GAMEPLAY VIDEO is quite concerning.
I thought the same until I realized......Runeforged doesn't proc with knockups.
Runeforged was overrated and it even got nerfed on top of that.
h7oda mazika def not overrated
@@anthonyorosco1850 def overrated
I'll still buy it on the good ol' Chaac, because it's too fun not to....and he does no damage late game without it. But gone are the days of the hammer build being somewhat viable on questionable characters with those nerfs *COUGH* nemesis *COUGH*. I'm sure it's still decent as a meme build or just to switch things up for fun, but.... competitively? Seems like that's definitely over now.
I think you should have waited for cabrakan to ult
You should probably note that the wind gust in the 1 is scaled to 100% BASIC ATTACK damage, not sure if you knew this in the video but you mentioned it as scaled by power. As well as that I think you underestimate it's use over the 2 considering leveling it does lower it's cooldown and clear a lot better with the gust and the knockup (either used on the front minions and throwing the gust or by grouping the wave after hitting the enemy God), perhaps even using the 2 to group wave by hitting the enemy and moving them together.
Also considering his passive and his inherent sustain, he should generally be a better solo than quite a few laners, regardless of his kit. Think his laning strength could be compared to guan, considering his heal, the protection cleave on his 2. If you include his strong setup and lockdown, which also means you cannot be fought while performing it, will typically mean you will win trades by disengaging after your kit is down.
To sum it up, don't think he's bad in solo at all.
P.S. the x1.5 increase damage on knockuped enemies is nutty.
Also I just heard to you refer to the basic attack scaling later in the video but it still means that the damage of the 1 is higher than you think.
Also let's note that horus heal is unconditionally better than Guan's as well as has a protection buff on it, kinda nutty, cd should be insane.
He said "100% power" because it means the same thing. Your basic attacks scale at 100% of your power, so an ability that scales on basic attack damage is going to be _very_ close to 100% power scaling. Basic attack damage typically only adds 10-15 flat damage.
@@dragontyron Considering he has 39 basic attack power in the early game with 0 power, extra damage on top of the wind gust + a x1.5 increase in damage on the combo is a lot more relevant. The numbers aren't close and they should definitely be properly considered. Which is exactly why you level the 1 and the more power you go simply makes the 1 that much better because of the actual damage numbers of the wind gust. Scaling of 39 damage at the start of the game is a lot more relevant than 0.
@@ravenous3424 I don't disagree on the 1 being better. It was definitely intended to be his clear ability. I was just clarifying the "100% power" comment.
@@dragontyron fair enough, thanks 👍
Just finished watching the Set vid lol the timing of this upload
What a casual hero 😏-❤️Vulcan
Max the one and build berserkers shield, the line after the knockup is an auto and does extra damage, idk why you don’t max the 1 and then the heal straight after
Dash with 2 hit the enemy group the wave and use your 1, simple
I had you so much. If cabra keep running we should be dead
Would shield of regrowth work with his passive? Or is that just an ability thing?
Revolver Ocelot Shield of Regrowth works on Healing Passives too, I think. It works on Chiron’s Passive.
The lack of awareness from Freya made me cry
Birb ❤️
im excited to see what he can do when building damage
New god time!
5:17 time when need ur ult but dont have))
The ult has 2 seconds for you but the enemies only see 1 second of it.
"Generally speaking when you have really long cooldowns its not worth build cooldown reduction."
Im confused, doesn't that make cdr more worth? Cdr is percentage base not flat, so the longer the cooldowns the more seconds you are getting off of your abilities and vice versa. If you had a 1 sec cd on one gods ability 40 percent cdr would shave 0.4s off that cooldown. But if you had a 10 sec ability cd on another god, 40 percent cdr would take off 4 whole seconds. You get more bang for your buck in that sense. Anyway great vid mast.
What's up with the 2 new gods boarders on the minimap? Is this just a bug or meant to mean something gameplaywise?
I think ruinforge hammer will be really good on him because once you activate his cc chain you get bonus damage procks from ruinforge the entire time.
I thought it didn't work for knockups, knockbacks, and blinds...which idk why it even says blinds seeing as how ra is the only character with a blind and runeforge is a physical item
@@Thunderlord_Tozn knockbacks blinds and grabs actually
Youre one is really good for wave clear
Horus op
Yes
If you going to say "don't be salty" because it's a PTS over and over, also keep pondering over whatCabrakan said for 10 mins, I actually not sure who is salty in this scenario.
There were a few places I feel like you could've saved yourself or others by ulting
Ult teleports teammates. That cabrakan should have read the notes. As soon as you ulted he should have got in it
He was if you look at it in slow mo
Horus' wings look like chicken wings
So he's a roamer? Niiiiice. I'll play Conquest, then.
honestly his needs a buff to minion damage golden blade helps but even with boots an jutons cant clear much, also his passive needs a buff
Horus's 3 and Merc ult... Wow
Complaining that he does no damage but you barely built any damage so i dont know what you were complaining about.
He means in comparison to other warriors that build no dmg but can harrass a team. Like full tank tyr, arthur, osiris all have better dps, his kit is just more passive in the dps department
He’s better than Nike soo
Reality don’t hurt my feelings 😅 I love Nike. But Horus is looking pretty good right now 😂
Ive always thought Nike was underwhelming. Especially when I solo against one and the play passive. Now even more so then ever with King and Horus as viable picks.
She’s always going to be comparatively weak in Solo. She does nothing stellar, but it’s simple game play for the most part and her ultimate is somewhat valuable. Her passive is really strong for turning the tables provided you and your team are matched well enough to take full advantage of it. At the same time, I know I always feel like she needs more. Maybe a rework to her 2 so that it has a specific buff duration that is consumed by your next ability (when used during its duration) but otherwise empowers your basic attacks while active. I also think that her ult should also grant her and her allies a buff to power (allies only if they are in range during its animation).
Currently try to build ancile, midgardian, and mantle of discord to try to shore up her peel and overall usefulness)
Wait did you say if you have long cool downs to NOT get cool down?
Happy bicycle day
cool
Never forget the passive heal it has no cooldown just move out of a fight for 1 sec and boom heal
It heals for like nothing though....
Is he meant to be support..? Hes got a lot of CC and he has a heal
You should do hera pls
oh no a defeat...
you should max 1 before the 2
Wing Gust does proc golden
I wonder if someone uses tP to a ward at enemy base. Could you time it with the dash and fly across map to heal them. 😂
Or a mercury ult.
Yo what up
Artio got another skin?
Ian Riggins yes and the special is amazing
Hi all
First time being this early to a video
cripple counter? a knock up?? HUH?
If only you could see things like arachne mid on consoles casuals but they re all try harding even in casuals they play Baka jungle or Arthur solo-_-
i subbed for the trans, mast. Where is the trans?
Bro... Hydras+deathbringer on Horus 1
Super saiyan Senturion doesn't crit
Play kumba jungle
Is there console pts yet?
I feel yah
This game was painful to watch, but hey first games on new gods and all. Keep it up.
Why horus go mid or solo IF HE GOT BEST SUPP ULT ))
I wouldn't say the best support ultimate. It's a different ult but in terms of utility I'd give that to slyvanus. Can't beat a giant knockup with alot of damage my guy
Play him support plz
arachne mid isnt bad actually lol
1st let's go
Artie doesn't counter him lol your 2 literally keeps her from being able to use one of her best abilities simple
why do you always talk like your asking a question after every sentence
Male Nike 😁😂
complains about no clear, only has defense items at 15 minutes....
First
I went back in because you didn’t make a call out on your ult so I thought you were still fighting and I went to peel :/ vgs is there for a reason man...
The ult is silent and the fight was cluttered, I stayed in to peel because I thought you were still there and next thing I see is you teleport out, can’t read your mind dude...
Just seemed like a bad play to me
horus seems pretty bad