My opinion: These sounds are very good for headphones or speakers, but the feeling is like you are listening to a piano track recorded. I mean it is like the player and the piano are not in your same place. It is different if you listen to somebody who is playing a good keyboard, this is not just a matter of sound quality or dynamic emolation or other emolations like string resonance and so on. For me the piano softwares have not "presence" ... it is like the sounds are made to play on a record, album or CD. They don't have "presence" on a live performance.
Really nice playing, John, and "Stella" is one of my favorite jazz standards, too. The Ravenscroft 275 seemed to sound a little fuller, richer, and perhaps a little mellower than the other apps. I think it might be my preference for playing ballads, but maybe not songs in which the piano has to cut through other instruments to be heard. Nice comparison - thanks!
Vinicius Moraes Yeah although it’s warm soft sounding to my ears but I’d pick this too over the brittle highs of Korg. But maybe eq settings can compensate?
iGrand the best! It even sounds much better than some vst pro pianos on the market. People are impressed by brands, and do not pay attention to their ears, it is a matter of common sense
Not sure if anyone gives a damn but if you guys are stoned like me during the covid times then you can stream pretty much all the latest series on Instaflixxer. I've been watching with my girlfriend for the last few days :)
When he recorded this video, over 2 years ago, the Ivory ‘American Grand’ for Korg Module didn’t yet exist. So, he didn’t miss it. Only the original Ivory was available.
Great playing John. I personally fell in love with the Ravenscroft 275 both on iOS and laptop. There is something about that sound that I can't explain. Any other recommendations? Maybe I will try Korg Module
77 Pianos How was it? Where you able to compare? Hard to judge in TH-cam because maybe audio differs especially I’m just using Apple stock earphones that’s why Korg sounded brittle highs lol 😂
This is a great service you are providing. Thank you. I just ordered the Yamaha MDBT01 wirless bluetooth interface to use with my Ipad Pro and Kurzweil Ensemble Grand. I also purchased Ipiano and Sampletank. I don't see any option to import MIDI files from on-line sources. Is this possible or do these piano apps only play and record performances that you create yourself? I downloaded and app called SuperScore which accepts downloaded MIDI files. I also see my piano apps listed in the setup of SuperScore. However, when I select any of these Piano apps, and try to play downloaded MIDI files, I don't get any sound. I hope I'm just overlooking something simple.
I have never imported MIDI flies to iPads so, I'm not for sure about it. Just for your reference, when I made midi data on iPad with Garageband, Ravenscroft can read the midi data. If you wish to import midi data from out side iPad, I am sorry that I can not help you about it.
Thank you John for responding. Midi is new to me. I just managed to get Ravenscroft 275 working on my Ipad using a wireless/bluetooth interface to my keyboard and I am thrilled with the sound. My Kurzweil is 25 years old and needed a sound upgrade. This digital piano app sounds so rich and warm, it's as if I bought a new digital pain to $36.00.
@@jeobrien46 Hi, how did you get your Ravenscroft piano sound to come out of the iPad and be heard through the piano speakers? Or did you just listen to the sound out of the iPad headphone socket? I have the md-bt01 and can get the iPad to recognise the notes being pressed on the piano keys…but I can not get the sound to come out of the piano…only the iPad speaker.
Can you assign sound changes to buttons on the midi keyboard? I'm helping my kids with their new instrument and they'd like to assign sounds to midi pads. Pad 1 = piano, Pad 2 = organ, Pad 3 = synth, etc... Any help is appreciated.
Hello it’s nice to hear you play. I have a question iç you don’t mind. im quite new with ipad Apps. I’d like to haber your opinion on a problem just occured after i uploded ivory grand for my Kore Module. Until i loaded ivory i did not have latency problem with mu i pad pro 10,5 inch. Do you think itiş normal Andıç’ shoul i support i pad with an ext sound card? Thank at advance.
john nakayama thank you. After wrote you about my problem i learned to change latency settings it was setted as 500 level than i redısed it to min latency 65 (don’t remember now ecact number) and it s perfect than. I also tried automatic setting and it resultef fine too. Thank you very much for your reply. Keep up with your music if s pleasure to listem.
Nice! What’s your MIDI to iPad setup? I got genuine Apple USB connection kit but latency is poor like 1/4 second late. (I’m using unbranded MIDI-USB device).
The unbranded midi-usb is most likely the reason for the latency. The easiest way is to plugin the midi keyboard via usb but if yours doesn't have it, it's better to invest in a decent midi-usb interface
Why do all factory presets sound the same? I'm using a new Ipadd Pro 10.5. I start by turning on my keyboard which powers my midi device. then, I open Ravenscroft 275 and select my midi device in the Ravenscroft settings. The result sounds very nice but, when I rotate through all of the preset pianos, I don't hear any difference in the piano sounds. Do you have any suggestions? Thank you.
There are only one sound source in Ravenscroft Piano that you can not change the paino sound itself. The 10 presets (such as 1-Classic 2-Concert 3-Pop and so on) changes only EQ and reverb, not sound source. If you hear no difference, I guess REVERB and EQ switches might be turned off. Thank you
Hey John, great playing! I have the PlugKey and many of these apps as well. I find that Ravenscroft does not play nicely with the Plug Key when I'm playing back a midi piano track from Cubase....terrible MIDI timing issues with random delayed notes. Have you experienced this at all? Korg Module works fine....but the Colossus piano also can give me timing problems from the sequencer. The timing is fine with Bluetooth MIDI, which is kind of slow and also with USB midi it's fine.
Similar problem has happens even with Mac using Cubase. When I used windows PC with cubase, latency problem has solved. I am not for sure but I guest its problem caused between Mac and cubase.
Marian M Eu percebi alguns cortes no Ivory no acionamento das teclas! Cada um tem particularidade mas gostei mais do ravenscroft, achei ele perfeito pra usar em qualquer ocasião.
Via Apple's camera connection kit which is an USB adapter. After that you will need an USB B to USB A cable so you can plug your midi keyboard to the adapter. Instead of Apple's camera connection kit I use a Hootoo USB C hub which works pretty well on my iPad Pro 2018 and my Yamaha P125. My Yamaha can play iPad pianos on its speakers so I don't need a headphone out on the iPad. If your piano doesn't have that option then you would need an USB hub that has a headphone out so you can plug it to speakers or heaphones.
Anthony Price i have an old casio.... sampletank sounds better hahaha The miroslav piano and the pro sampletank piano sounds very good actually, ravenscroft is better tho
Victor Ibelles Mx ima Misician myself, I have the Privia 1000 it’s amazing , I also got the sad-50 for my other sounds , that’s Literally all I need but keep playing my brother sounds great by the way
My opinion: These sounds are very good for headphones or speakers, but the feeling is like you are listening to a piano track recorded. I mean it is like the player and the piano are not in your same place.
It is different if you listen to somebody who is playing a good keyboard, this is not just a matter of sound quality or dynamic emolation or other emolations like string resonance and so on.
For me the piano softwares have not "presence" ... it is like the sounds are made to play on a record, album or CD. They don't have "presence" on a live performance.
Really nice playing, John, and "Stella" is one of my favorite jazz standards, too. The Ravenscroft 275 seemed to sound a little fuller, richer, and perhaps a little mellower than the other apps. I think it might be my preference for playing ballads, but maybe not songs in which the piano has to cut through other instruments to be heard. Nice comparison - thanks!
I always come back to iGrand, especially "Classical Piano I"... much better to my ears.
Same here...
@@guydanielclotilde4861 same here
but no una corda
Ravenscroft is perfect for smooth jazz
Muito legal ! Ravenscroft pra mim é o melhor
concordo, os outros são muito abertos, e ele tem mais dinâmica e sustain!
00:02 Korg Ivory Grand
2:21 Ravenscroft
Igrand piano sounds best to my ears:)
RAvenscroft have a really goood bassss, i feel that i can hear more harmonics..
Vinicius Moraes Yeah although it’s warm soft sounding to my ears but I’d pick this too over the brittle highs of Korg. But maybe eq settings can compensate?
CMP sounds like a real piano as in quite harsh in the mids.
iGrand the best! It even sounds much better than some vst pro pianos on the market. People are impressed by brands, and do not pay attention to their ears, it is a matter of common sense
Great video mate. Thanks. They’re pretty different.
Not sure if anyone gives a damn but if you guys are stoned like me during the covid times then you can stream pretty much all the latest series on Instaflixxer. I've been watching with my girlfriend for the last few days :)
@Korbin Brayan yup, have been using Instaflixxer for months myself =)
You missed Korg Module AmD library aside with Ivory Grand. I found it the most sensitive and responsive for me. That's my only choice in iPad for now.
I find it to sound a bit clinical... bit like Yamaha...
When he recorded this video, over 2 years ago, the Ivory ‘American Grand’ for Korg Module didn’t yet exist. So, he didn’t miss it. Only the original Ivory was available.
Un placer escucharlo.
Great playing John. I personally fell in love with the Ravenscroft 275 both on iOS and laptop. There is something about that sound that I can't explain. Any other recommendations? Maybe I will try Korg Module
Thanks a lot！
I think that I am easy to use KORG Module most
77 Pianos How was it? Where you able to compare? Hard to judge in TH-cam because maybe audio differs especially I’m just using Apple stock earphones that’s why Korg sounded brittle highs lol 😂
If you like it so much....why change?
Ravenscroft is my favourite too, You can even ear the damper kicking in, AND it has sympathetic resonance
Ravenscroft is my favourite one.
Beautiful playing 🙌🏼
I wonder how you can see depth with that hair blocking the view of your right eye
This is a great service you are providing. Thank you. I just ordered the Yamaha MDBT01 wirless bluetooth interface to use with my Ipad Pro and Kurzweil Ensemble Grand. I also purchased Ipiano and Sampletank. I don't see any option to import MIDI files from on-line sources. Is this possible or do these piano apps only play and record performances that you create yourself? I downloaded and app called SuperScore which accepts downloaded MIDI files. I also see my piano apps listed in the setup of SuperScore. However, when I select any of these Piano apps, and try to play downloaded MIDI files, I don't get any sound. I hope I'm just overlooking something simple.
I have never imported MIDI flies to iPads so, I'm not for sure about it.
Just for your reference, when I made midi data on iPad with Garageband, Ravenscroft can read the midi data.
If you wish to import midi data from out side iPad, I am sorry that I can not help you about it.
Thank you John for responding. Midi is new to me. I just managed to get Ravenscroft 275 working on my Ipad using a wireless/bluetooth interface to my keyboard and I am thrilled with the sound. My Kurzweil is 25 years old and needed a sound upgrade. This digital piano app sounds so rich and warm, it's as if I bought a new digital pain to $36.00.
@@jeobrien46 Hi, how did you get your Ravenscroft piano sound to come out of the iPad and be heard through the piano speakers? Or did you just listen to the sound out of the iPad headphone socket? I have the md-bt01 and can get the iPad to recognise the notes being pressed on the piano keys…but I can not get the sound to come out of the piano…only the iPad speaker.
Super Test!!!! Danke!
Great video man. Dou you have some recomendation , about pads songs ? Some app ? I need to use on the church ... thanks a lot
I recommend MK Sensation as best for church.
Its app's roots stem is for Gospel musician.
There are great old days sounds!
I recommend Sunrizer or Synth One. I use them...
Hello. If you take the sound directly from the iPad(output headphone), there will be no delay-latency?? Thanks.
I use the CMP and iGrand Piano. Great Piano songs...
Can you assign sound changes to buttons on the midi keyboard? I'm helping my kids with their new instrument and they'd like to assign sounds to midi pads. Pad 1 = piano, Pad 2 = organ, Pad 3 = synth, etc... Any help is appreciated.
Hello it’s nice to hear you play. I have a question iç you don’t mind. im quite new with ipad Apps. I’d like to haber your opinion on a problem just occured after i uploded ivory grand for my Kore Module. Until i loaded ivory i did not have latency problem with mu i pad pro 10,5 inch. Do you think itiş normal Andıç’ shoul i support i pad with an ext sound card? Thank at advance.
I never had such a problem.
You should check buffer size on Korg app.
Buffer size may be changed after you have downloaded Ivory apps.
john nakayama thank you. After wrote you about my problem i learned to change latency settings it was setted as 500 level than i redısed it to min latency 65 (don’t remember now ecact number) and it s perfect than. I also tried automatic setting and it resultef fine too. Thank you very much for your reply. Keep up with your music if s pleasure to listem.
Nice! What’s your MIDI to iPad setup? I got genuine Apple USB connection kit but latency is poor like 1/4 second late. (I’m using unbranded MIDI-USB device).
The unbranded midi-usb is most likely the reason for the latency. The easiest way is to plugin the midi keyboard via usb but if yours doesn't have it, it's better to invest in a decent midi-usb interface
Igrand offers a lot of pianos and ravenscroft not and is sometimes unstable as I hear
gracias amigo, muy útil
Great plying thanks for demo, but I am not impressed with the sounds ?compared to kawaii or Nord… (which I don’t have 😂)
Looks like CMP will sound best on a band setting? I feel like it's the one that'll cut through the mix.. can anybody confirm that?
Awesome dude, how long have you been playing?
My keyboard has no key sensitivity. Would that app give me the sensitivity of keys? Or not?
I heard Ravenscrofts app is not so stabile, i have an iphone 6s so I guess the ivory is a better bet
Ravenscroft!!!
Why do all factory presets sound the same? I'm using a new Ipadd Pro 10.5. I start by turning on my keyboard which powers my midi device. then, I open Ravenscroft 275 and select my midi device in the Ravenscroft settings. The result sounds very nice but, when I rotate through all of the preset pianos, I don't hear any difference in the piano sounds. Do you have any suggestions? Thank you.
There are only one sound source in Ravenscroft Piano that you can not change the paino sound itself.
The 10 presets (such as 1-Classic 2-Concert 3-Pop and so on) changes only EQ and reverb, not sound source.
If you hear no difference, I guess REVERB and EQ switches might be turned off.
Thank you
sounds great, did you use any program to record the audio for the video? Or did you just use the Roland go mixer? regards!
Alvaro Flores
Thank you!!
It is only a go mixer that I used
john nakayama cool! Thanks a lot John!
I have a question, if I buy the korg module app, does it work with the 88 keys?
Chake burgos yes
Chake burgos yeppp
I found it shocking how bad the SampleTank piano sounds. Maybe it's gud for arrangements and production but as a solo piano...?
Hey John, great playing! I have the PlugKey and many of these apps as well. I find that Ravenscroft does not play nicely with the Plug Key when I'm playing back a midi piano track from Cubase....terrible MIDI timing issues with random delayed notes. Have you experienced this at all? Korg Module works fine....but the Colossus piano also can give me timing problems from the sequencer. The timing is fine with Bluetooth MIDI, which is kind of slow and also with USB midi it's fine.
Similar problem has happens even with Mac using Cubase.
When I used windows PC with cubase, latency problem has solved.
I am not for sure but I guest its problem caused between Mac and cubase.
what it's the name of the first song ?
marcos ruiz quero
Stella by Starlight
Thanks !
I think Raven has the best sound...
This module sounds okeay but for $40 I would rather get Garritan Abbey Road Studios CFX Lite.
Ivory grand 2 stands out im my opinion
I just bought Korg Module app. Is the Ivory Grand Piano better than Ravenscroft275?
Marian M Eu percebi alguns cortes no Ivory no acionamento das teclas! Cada um tem particularidade mas gostei mais do ravenscroft, achei ele perfeito pra usar em qualquer ocasião.
Pó de Guitarra Awesome! I like it too. My favorite is Colossus Grand piano, but Ravenscroft is a close second.
Hi how do you connect this to a piano?
Via Apple's camera connection kit which is an USB adapter. After that you will need an USB B to USB A cable so you can plug your midi keyboard to the adapter. Instead of Apple's camera connection kit I use a Hootoo USB C hub which works pretty well on my iPad Pro 2018 and my Yamaha P125. My Yamaha can play iPad pianos on its speakers so I don't need a headphone out on the iPad. If your piano doesn't have that option then you would need an USB hub that has a headphone out so you can plug it to speakers or heaphones.
Ravenscroft is the more realistic
Great playing. Which Ipad are u using?
Jose Mendez
Thank you ‼︎
iPad which I use is iPad Pro 10.5 (256GB)
john nakayama thanks for this info. How do you output the sound? What is the name of the audio interface (adapter) you are using ?
Sampletank sounds like an old Casio 🤮🤮
Anthony Price i have an old casio.... sampletank sounds better hahaha
The miroslav piano and the pro sampletank piano sounds very good actually, ravenscroft is better tho
Victor Ibelles Mx ima Misician myself, I have the Privia 1000 it’s amazing , I also got the sad-50 for my other sounds , that’s Literally all I need but keep playing my brother sounds great by the way