PSA: this list is strictly based on a 35 second burst metric. at the end of the day you can play any class you want and if funded enough can do all the content in the game! also many things will change over time with the introduction to more and more 6th job!
Edit: This list is strictly based on a 35 second burst metric in relation to CP. Don't make it sound more accurate than it is, a lot of classes have inflated CP etc. DB as an example with 2ndary weapon and 2 off stats. With that said, it's really hard to make any of these lists and this is a good way of trying to make it somewhat comparable but some classes are not getting justice with burst / CP.
bishop being better than over half the roster is crazy consider all you do is hold down divine punishment after popping 4 buffs and maybe charging infinity
DPM tier list too? Some of the bosses don't only last around 30 seconds right? I'd be interested to see a DPM one along with this burst tier list since quite a few people I know are interested in boss soloing.
Need someone to translate this and post to Inven; they care way too much about irrelevant metrics such as Dojo performance and solo bossing clear times. Obviously DPM isn't nonsense, but party play burst damage to clear end game bosses should be weighted much higher when determining how strong a class is, and should be the number one metric for class balancing (given they won't remove Benediction/Oz rings)
@@kazokadas honestly my take is that the combat power is different depending on the player. Like if someone with 9L atk does a BA their CP is going to be lower than someone with say 7atk 2L boss. And their BA’s should be similar. As well as some other classes having slightly inflated CP through the sf from shields etc. But I’d say that hero and DW dmg is pretty similar. Honestly the fact that hero does so much dmg on burst despite being a 2m class is insane. They really should have split the tier list into 3. An overall all class list, 2m list, and a 3m list.
@@kazokadas thats exactly the point of this video; your opinions on the classes don't matter because this is based on real end game players of each class. Also, DW gives fat support so the overall dmg attributed to DW will always be higher than Hero (and most other classes in the game)
@@nmtiger No, this is exactly the opposite point of this video. 35s is going to favor some classes over others, but obviously some classes are going to do much more damage over the entirety of the fight, which obviously matters more. Please don't be stupid enough to not realize this.
@@ryanhoang1123 You're not getting it. If Hero and DW do the same damage on a 35 BA with DW being tuned for 3 minute and Hero being tuned for 2 minute, Hero basically does 33% more damage over the course of the entire fight. You get that, right?
@@nunyabidness5835 for solo bossing 2mins will have upper hands against 3mins class. But when it comes to endgame party bossing, u basically gonna be like the rest of party member 3mins class unless u can find other 5 pt member with 2mins class.
Dawn Warrior does more burst than Hero? I call shenanigans. Now that I think about it, I guess DW is a 3 minute class and the way this is set up (35s) favors classes that have less condensed burst and are classes that are tuned for 3 minute bursts.
BA/CP is trash metric to measure and differentiate between class burst or dmg in total, some classes has inflated CP, and no class matches to the other CP. this is utterly useless misleading information. If someone really want to compare dmg or burst between classes the best way would be 95%-99% similar gear and then use a BA, otherwise it’s apples to oranges
How would you measure 95-99% 'similar gear'. That's literally the reason they use a CP and the only thing that currently goes further are converted stats which no one wants to bother doing. Your comment just proves how dumb this community is
@@anonymousl5150 super endgame double prime top flame gear full eternal 8,9 pitch boss, cp is inflated by boss and classes that wears a starable secondary, head converted stat could be a way. But cp is useless doesn’t change my point here
@@blood.3709that’s not the point. It’s the fact that CP/BA gives them a standardized value that is the best they can get outside of converted stats. Do you honestly think every end gamer wants to do maple scouter? This isn’t supposed to be “the most accurate” list and they’ve said that. Regardless of the lists faults, it’s fairly accurate + or - a couple spots for a certain classes.
PSA: If you are not in the top 0.5% of players or do not plan to reach that level, do not solely rely on this tier list as it will not be useful to you
@@iShoopPoP this is just not true. Even at midgame progression, dealing 30% less dmg because of class diff will significantly impact your progression and ability to find parties for midgame bosses such as nKalos. Yea of course, this list means nothing for early game ppl still doing 6man cTene clears because of the power creep from 6th job, but once you pass that your ability to progress is 100% in large part due to class choice, at similar levels of hexa and gear progression. Sure you can gain 30% more CP to make up that gap, but that also involves significant time, money, and RNG, when otherwise you’d just be ready earlier if you played a stronger class.
@@nmtiger You are absolutely delusional calling CTene early and nKalos midgame lmao. By your definition 95% of the playerbase never left early game like get real dude
@@kazokadas shadower is not better than most classes, not even in solo bossing where it should be excelling. Because most bosses even before grandis favor burst and against grandis bosses shadower is ass in solo and party. It also requires mad hands to play optimally and stick to the boss without dying, most shadowers are very mediocre at that
@@14Vennegoor yep that’s right and there’s nothing wrong with that. The game has a ton of casual people who just daily and hang with friends. nKalos these days is pre lib midgame content. Hyperion has been clearing nKalos for 7+ months and the server is 10 months old
PSA: this list is strictly based on a 35 second burst metric. at the end of the day you can play any class you want and if funded enough can do all the content in the game! also many things will change over time with the introduction to more and more 6th job!
Edit: This list is strictly based on a 35 second burst metric in relation to CP.
Don't make it sound more accurate than it is, a lot of classes have inflated CP etc. DB as an example with 2ndary weapon and 2 off stats.
With that said, it's really hard to make any of these lists and this is a good way of trying to make it somewhat comparable but some classes are not getting justice with burst / CP.
why are they perma yelling
Seems like a twitch reflex to keep adhd TikTok brain people engaged
To show that they’re being sarcastic with application of this tier list. It is irrelevant to 99.5% of maplestory players
Cope harder@@iShoopPoP
@@deft1825 The ereklo bros said it themselves so u can take it up to them
LMAO... I forgot to turn the audio down XD
bishop being better than over half the roster is crazy consider all you do is hold down divine punishment after popping 4 buffs and maybe charging infinity
Go ahead and nerf Bishop and have less Bishops in your party when they all drop it.
@@kazokadas That's fine if they also nerf boss hp requirements requiring a bishop for 80 fd on burst
Probably why its higher 😂
@@anonymousl5150 thats a really big if gluck
Y'all gonna spawn a bunch of new xenon players. We cant gatekeep anymore LOL!
Most ppl (including myself) go straight back to character select after trying them out in 5th job for a few minutes and in a few bosses
Could you make a solo prog tier list?
they have no data
Easy classes tier list, the same sht
just look at duky's hyper burn tier list, its pretty accurate
Damn was the Paladin test done w someone to proc the shadow partner thing or completely solo? Thats pretty wild
Will we get a video for dpm aswell?
I dont think they understand what average means...
DPM tier list too? Some of the bosses don't only last around 30 seconds right? I'd be interested to see a DPM one along with this burst tier list since quite a few people I know are interested in boss soloing.
Need someone to translate this and post to Inven; they care way too much about irrelevant metrics such as Dojo performance and solo bossing clear times. Obviously DPM isn't nonsense, but party play burst damage to clear end game bosses should be weighted much higher when determining how strong a class is, and should be the number one metric for class balancing (given they won't remove Benediction/Oz rings)
Dude, stop. This tier list doesn't mean anything. Dawn Warrior doesn't do more damage than Hero.
@@kazokadas honestly my take is that the combat power is different depending on the player. Like if someone with 9L atk does a BA their CP is going to be lower than someone with say 7atk 2L boss. And their BA’s should be similar. As well as some other classes having slightly inflated CP through the sf from shields etc. But I’d say that hero and DW dmg is pretty similar. Honestly the fact that hero does so much dmg on burst despite being a 2m class is insane. They really should have split the tier list into 3. An overall all class list, 2m list, and a 3m list.
@@kazokadas thats exactly the point of this video; your opinions on the classes don't matter because this is based on real end game players of each class.
Also, DW gives fat support so the overall dmg attributed to DW will always be higher than Hero (and most other classes in the game)
@@nmtiger No, this is exactly the opposite point of this video. 35s is going to favor some classes over others, but obviously some classes are going to do much more damage over the entirety of the fight, which obviously matters more.
Please don't be stupid enough to not realize this.
@@ryanhoang1123 You're not getting it. If Hero and DW do the same damage on a 35 BA with DW being tuned for 3 minute and Hero being tuned for 2 minute, Hero basically does 33% more damage over the course of the entire fight.
You get that, right?
Hero kinda surprised me, I always thought it was regarded as a huge burst class….
It’s a 2 min burst class going up against 3 min burst and 4 min burst classes in a 35 second window.
@@calcifer6135 that’s a solid point… so I suppose potentially it could out damage some of these guys in a longer fight ?
@@nunyabidness5835 for sure
@@nunyabidness5835 for solo bossing 2mins will have upper hands against 3mins class. But when it comes to endgame party bossing, u basically gonna be like the rest of party member 3mins class unless u can find other 5 pt member with 2mins class.
@@calcifer6135 Think Sword Illusion makes Heros damage profile more DPM like, their burst isn't bad for being a 2 min class tho.
I'm sad cuz my class is bad can you post a dpm list?
Im surprised Kaiser isnt bottom 2 in burst anymore but im not surprised otherwise..
Corsair “Little Burst” lmao. I main Corsair and I agree. Type want to switch mains. I’m tired of having to summon every 30 seconds lol.
Gotta make a new list with 2nd mastery
Would be very interesting to see a 6 minute tier list. Crazy that there’s a lot of two minute classes outbursting the 3 minutes
Curious to how much the list changes with 2nd mastery
will update it in the future and see the changes between the two!
@@Ereklo_Gamebased on the data how would you shift the party bossing tier list? Any major changes or notable shifts based on the data?
Buff Shad.. 😢
Why is my boy DB is the worst burst bracket 😭
DB is a textbook dpmer, a large chunk of DB's dmg output comes from blade tornado / blades of destiny which are low cooldown abilities
@@gooby_pls they also have a 2nd wep inflating their CP
imagine they remove ror and burst still meta knight
Buff DB man cmon one of the most fun and aesthetically pleasing classes but so nerfed on dmg
always trust da dada
I'm a BaM, we exist I swear.
Dawn Warrior does more burst than Hero? I call shenanigans. Now that I think about it, I guess DW is a 3 minute class and the way this is set up (35s) favors classes that have less condensed burst and are classes that are tuned for 3 minute bursts.
BA/CP is trash metric to measure and differentiate between class burst or dmg in total, some classes has inflated CP, and no class matches to the other CP. this is utterly useless misleading information. If someone really want to compare dmg or burst between classes the best way would be 95%-99% similar gear and then use a BA, otherwise it’s apples to oranges
How would you measure 95-99% 'similar gear'. That's literally the reason they use a CP and the only thing that currently goes further are converted stats which no one wants to bother doing. Your comment just proves how dumb this community is
@@anonymousl5150 super endgame double prime top flame gear full eternal 8,9 pitch boss, cp is inflated by boss and classes that wears a starable secondary, head converted stat could be a way. But cp is useless doesn’t change my point here
@@blood.3709 Yeah sorry u dumb
@@blood.3709that’s not the point. It’s the fact that CP/BA gives them a standardized value that is the best they can get outside of converted stats. Do you honestly think every end gamer wants to do maple scouter? This isn’t supposed to be “the most accurate” list and they’ve said that. Regardless of the lists faults, it’s fairly accurate + or - a couple spots for a certain classes.
Mercedes at the top iktrrrrr 😍😍🧚♂️
W MYANS
isnt this a KMS chart which means no AS0?
This is from gms if I’m not mistaken
It's GMS, a lot of the testing came from endgamer showcases done on their stream for each class iirc
I am going for Xenon next.
Mobbing is free and bossing is op
aint op by any mean. its burst is clunky af, you need a proper setup for bursting
@@LamTran-sz5liit’s not as clunky as u think
19:13 this is a crazy take. Buff NL
To loud
NW DS Hero for me personally based of playing the 3 bursts i find most OP i like ark but too much movement hard to ROR arks burst
PSA: If you are not in the top 0.5% of players or do not plan to reach that level, do not solely rely on this tier list as it will not be useful to you
@@iShoopPoP this is just not true. Even at midgame progression, dealing 30% less dmg because of class diff will significantly impact your progression and ability to find parties for midgame bosses such as nKalos. Yea of course, this list means nothing for early game ppl still doing 6man cTene clears because of the power creep from 6th job, but once you pass that your ability to progress is 100% in large part due to class choice, at similar levels of hexa and gear progression. Sure you can gain 30% more CP to make up that gap, but that also involves significant time, money, and RNG, when otherwise you’d just be ready earlier if you played a stronger class.
@@nmtiger You're putting way too much stock in this list. Shadower is better than most of the classes on this list but is bottom 4 here.
@@nmtiger You are absolutely delusional calling CTene early and nKalos midgame lmao. By your definition 95% of the playerbase never left early game like get real dude
@@kazokadas shadower is not better than most classes, not even in solo bossing where it should be excelling. Because most bosses even before grandis favor burst and against grandis bosses shadower is ass in solo and party. It also requires mad hands to play optimally and stick to the boss without dying, most shadowers are very mediocre at that
@@14Vennegoor yep that’s right and there’s nothing wrong with that. The game has a ton of casual people who just daily and hang with friends. nKalos these days is pre lib midgame content. Hyperion has been clearing nKalos for 7+ months and the server is 10 months old
Bro bucc below average is just cruel. L list.
22:54
So many people laughed at us back then.
Now they are jealous us
This video just makes my ears hurt from all them yelling and bro-ing
I LOVE DA DADA
Buff NL😢😢
True
w myans
How da fuq nl need buff ? R yall stoopid
DEDADA
buff hoyoung
This video has more shouting than explanation.
Wasn’t really explaining much in this video, was just putting the classes in a tier list visual order from the data we got over the past few week!
I like their content, but the way they speak.
duh DADA!!!!