@netcat22 I was not expecting to see a morrowind youtuber here either my friend lol It does make me happy that the content creators I consume interact sometimes. Makes me feel like there are more people who consume similar things to me.
You know, the game does make a "bonk" noise every time you collide with something. If all kinetic energy is transformed into this bonking sound, could we calculate how loud the sound would be in-game? Would everyone in a short radius go deaf or sustain hearing injuries? Is our protagonist secretly deaf? 🤔
on top of that, if the bonk is super loud that has some implications for the rest of the game's sound design. its relatively quiet compared to things like the soundtrack and pokemon cries - so does that mean the pokemon world is hellishly, freakishly loud? like does whismur actually cry out louder than a jet engine when you run into it? this concept has legs
God, I love these silly little videos. It's easy enough to say "it's just a game! The devs aren't gonna program actual physics, that would ruin player experience!!!!!" but once one suspends their disbelief, it's so fun to just ask "hey, should the bike be killing people?" or "can any of these pokémon actually fly?" This is quickly becoming one of my favourite youtube channels, thanks for your sharing your research and insights!
Reminds me of some ancient Game Theory videos where MatPat would calculate some silly nonsense like the impact force of being struck by a bullet bill or something. I really enjoy this genre of youtube video.
Maybe in a world of magic creatures where most would be threats to national security IRL, humans evolved to be nigh indestructible. In other words, May and Brendan are built different.
Surely their most useful military skill is the ability to retreat from a lost battle with no remaining weapons and somehow make it back to the pokemon center unharmed despite walking through miles of grass inhabited by terrifying monsters. All while apparently unconscious or at least unable to remember it happening.
Thinking about it, in the Johto games, some guy just tanks a Hyper Beam from Lance's Dragonite. Sure, the guy doesn't feel too great afterwards, but he didn't seem majorly injured by it
it is basically canon that humans are Fighting/Psychic and are part of the humanoid egg group. Ash knows Super Power, Aura Sphere, and Mimic. Lillie can bench something around 20 tons. May is even stronger since she can sprint while Fireman Carrying 3 people.
the idea that the bonking noise you get when you do crash into things/people on the bike is actually a gigantic violent crashing noise but our bird’s eye view leaves it a little thud is very funny to me
I was literally graded as "unmarkable" by the British high school education system when I got my math GCSE, so all of this basically goes over my head, but in the words of a famous US president, "I like your funny words, magic man."
@@AnonymousAnonymous-kw5in I mean, a cartoon character based off one said that. That being JFK from Clone High. But yeah, I could see a president saying that now of days, given how their IQ has been going down.
11:08 I mean they casually experienced escape volicity so it checks out. 8:44 So you're telling me that Pokémon Emerald is a fever dream May and Brendon are having on rainbow road and Scott is uncle Ted.
I had a good friend who’s dad bought him one of these for his birthday back in ‘07 without knowing it’s power, he rode it up to the end of the street and when he turned back he burned all the hair off his body and broke all the windows in the neighbourhood
Gf devs in 2000: yeah lets make the bike simple and easy to control, just going or not going, simple enough. Adef: THE PHYSICS IMPLICATIONS OF THIS DESTROY THE UNIVERSE
Loved this video - fan theories/analysis for unintended consequences are always fun! I also really appreciate you putting the forces into perspective without mentioning some pretty grim deaths or showing car crashes!
1. Bro wait. That means... that means that the door to EVERYWHERE is just 37 centimeters? Big oof! Moving must SUCK. No wonder they needed Machokes to wrestle the furniture through the door! 2. Those kids are TOUGH for taking that many g-forces on a bike. And even TOUGHER for producing those forces with their 10-year-old legs. Somehow them taking down a criminal organization or two and taming one of the strongest pokemon in history isn't so outlandish... 3. Rip for you getting abducted by aliens. Glad they were chill. 4. Thank GOODNESS you don't mow down the NPC's with your Lockheed MB-1. That would make the Pokemon journey quite dark. 5. I loved this video. Hope you're doing well. Thanks for the hard work and humor, and hope you drop another good one soon!
I remember an edgy romhack called snakewood where you did pokemon battles but also killed people and ran from zombies. It was contentious in reviews but I enjoyed
I love videos with titles like this. They always make me laugh Like this question does not matter at all, but it’s hilarious that someone took the time to answer it anyways. I always have to click on videos like these just to see what the hell the person is talking about
I love how you jumped into calculating the size of the protagonist, when a pretty standard automatic door was above you (which is the exact size of the house door you pass several times in this video)
feels like there could have been another science tangent at the end calculating the increase in temperature and loudness of sound experienced at the crashes
Missed your chance to start this with typing the beginning for the script, "Dear Gamefreak," with classical music and lots of yelling, and icluding THE SCIENCE in the title. This is some Austin stuff. Very good 👍
Adef, I always love your mathematical breakdowns and your editing on these types of videos. Awesome job! Quick thought: say the player on the Mach Bike was travelling up or down a set of stairs (such as in Victory Road, entering Mirage Island, etc). I'm not sure if there's any actual loss of speed in-game while going up or down stairs when observing from tile-to-tile, so with the added force necessary to make it "up the stairs" at that speed, would the player be able to reach an even higher number of G's than what you calculated? Or would the math work out to where the extra forces for going up to instantly going down would basically cancel each other out resulting in no net gain?
I just realized this. I know this is an old video but, you could have used the door width as an approximation too. The doors are a tile wide, and that’s a known width. Well, I mean at least in America, there are a ton of standards on entry doors to stores and whatnot, and all the doors can fit an adult. However with that math, the tiles would be about a meter wide. Which is…. A lot.
this channel feels like if game theory actually kept being the thing it was about (teaching people math and science using games as a vehicle) instead of becoming about game lore
You putting Emerald version inside the scarlet version box was akin to the gov't putting the Ark of the Covenant in a storage facility at the end of Raider of the Lost Ark.
11:00 alternatively, the npc firmly plants their feet to the ground, catches the player and bike, and imparts their momentum into the earth, making it spin ever so slightly faster or slower
That change in direction is rotation around the vertical axis. Not a linear acceleration. The liquids (and solids) of the body would be forced outward in a semi-cylindrical shape, with a low pressure void in the center. Like a tornado of flesh. You'd get "the bends" too. Which is fun. And since it is rotation, different parts of the body would experience nonuniform acceleration depending on their distance from the center. Then just...stop. The centrifugal forces would subside and the body would collapse in on itself and force air out of the lungs and expel gasses that had bubbled out of dissolution from blood and other liquids.
I'm surprised there was nothing on the fact you can go up what appears to be a slope that's at least 45 degrees if not more like 60+, and is literally loose sand. Though I have no clue how to do math on that lol
you could do a similar video on whether or not the effects of a pokemon using the move gravity would be potentially dangerous or lethal, it would probably be able to be mathematically approached as the move would cause specific pokemon that levitate via magnetism (the move magnet rise or an ability description that says so) to fall to the ground, so you could work out the increase in gravitational force based on how much additional force would be required to overcome the magnetic effect
When you started talking about the conservation of energy I was hoping you were going to calculate the in universe volume of the bonk sound effect to make up for the missing energy haha. Fun video!
Maybe this is why bike shops are so rare in Pokemon with each region having only one. Bikes in the pokemon world are not something an average kid would ride to school, these are high tech military vehicles. In Hoenn they can magically absorb absurd g forces to keep the rider safe, and in Sinnoh they could rip apart space through the use of the void glitch.
You can also still do this instantaneous turnaround on Cycling Road, which has an incline, so if you do the turn from traveling downhill to traveling uphill, the acceleration would be even higher since you're also going against the planet's gravity. To do that calculation you'd need to be able to estimate the steepness of Cycling Road's incline, which is tough because you only see it from head on and it appears to still be totally level with its surroundings. If we ignore for the moment the apparent non-euclidean properties of cycling road, would it be possible to calculate the hill's slope by comparing the differences in velocity between traveling downhill vs uphill vs on flat ground?
I would argue that May/Brendan dont make visual contact with walls/NPCs so they must be braking even if we the players don't manually do so. Thus they would be pressing their kinetic energy into the brakepads and the ground as they stop themselves from crashing.
9:40 NPC's don't take the impact, Brendan and May have amazing reflexes and stop before they would hit them, as evidence by the fact they stop at the same rate when a trainer look at them from afar. My headcannon is that the sound we here when "bumping into things" is our brain telling us not to run into them, like Professor Oak telling us that it's not the time to use that
I can't believe adef broke federal law and opened May and Brendan's mail. All for us. Truly committed to the content.
It's always fascinating to see my favourite youtubers i'm subbed to comment on other youtubers i'm subbed to.
@netcat22 I was not expecting to see a morrowind youtuber here either my friend lol
It does make me happy that the content creators I consume interact sometimes. Makes me feel like there are more people who consume similar things to me.
You know, the game does make a "bonk" noise every time you collide with something. If all kinetic energy is transformed into this bonking sound, could we calculate how loud the sound would be in-game? Would everyone in a short radius go deaf or sustain hearing injuries? Is our protagonist secretly deaf? 🤔
I think thats why all the npcs write their dialogue at the bottom of the screen, as an accessability thing for our protags
@@youdont12know The npcs actually do have full voice acting; we simply don't get to hear it since the protagonist has lost their hearing.
now this is a concept
it would also be transfering energy in other ways like excessive amounts of heat 🤓
on top of that, if the bonk is super loud that has some implications for the rest of the game's sound design. its relatively quiet compared to things like the soundtrack and pokemon cries - so does that mean the pokemon world is hellishly, freakishly loud? like does whismur actually cry out louder than a jet engine when you run into it? this concept has legs
10:52 Yes, I believe when the energy is released as sound, there is a devastating *Bonk*
“Devastating bonk” is a hilarious phrase lmao
Or they absorb the impact, like springs.
If you ever assume my width again I’m unsubscribing
Love you Walt. Great job at Tipped Off!
Fully expected adef to calculate the width using the height and weight, "assuming a cylindrical pokemon trainer" and whatnot.
Cylinder
Breaks the sound barrier. Small "bump" noise plays.
Because Pokemon
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@kylehill hey thanks for telling me about adef, the channel is great
This guy likes himself too much
God, I love these silly little videos. It's easy enough to say "it's just a game! The devs aren't gonna program actual physics, that would ruin player experience!!!!!" but once one suspends their disbelief, it's so fun to just ask "hey, should the bike be killing people?" or "can any of these pokémon actually fly?"
This is quickly becoming one of my favourite youtube channels, thanks for your sharing your research and insights!
Reminds me of some ancient Game Theory videos where MatPat would calculate some silly nonsense like the impact force of being struck by a bullet bill or something. I really enjoy this genre of youtube video.
Maybe in a world of magic creatures where most would be threats to national security IRL, humans evolved to be nigh indestructible. In other words, May and Brendan are built different.
Surely their most useful military skill is the ability to retreat from a lost battle with no remaining weapons and somehow make it back to the pokemon center unharmed despite walking through miles of grass inhabited by terrifying monsters. All while apparently unconscious or at least unable to remember it happening.
Thinking about it, in the Johto games, some guy just tanks a Hyper Beam from Lance's Dragonite. Sure, the guy doesn't feel too great afterwards, but he didn't seem majorly injured by it
it is basically canon that humans are Fighting/Psychic and are part of the humanoid egg group.
Ash knows Super Power, Aura Sphere, and Mimic. Lillie can bench something around 20 tons. May is even stronger since she can sprint while Fireman Carrying 3 people.
the idea that the bonking noise you get when you do crash into things/people on the bike is actually a gigantic violent crashing noise but our bird’s eye view leaves it a little thud is very funny to me
I just realized why I love those videos. They are basically old school game theory videos in a Trenchcoat
Holy shit you're right.
The good old days
This person is right, adef, keep doing what you're doing and don't change it too much you're doing great
I now need a version of Pokémon where an NPC goes flying whenever you crash into them with the bike
It looks like Team Rocket's Blasting off Agaiiiiiin
Clearly the bump sfx is where all the energy ends up on collisions
Probably the equivalent to stepping on an actual landmine lol
“If you know anything about acceleration, your jaw should be on the floor”
Jokes on you Mr. Adef, I’m stupid.
I was literally graded as "unmarkable" by the British high school education system when I got my math GCSE, so all of this basically goes over my head, but in the words of a famous US president, "I like your funny words, magic man."
Blud's the math antichrist 😭
I love the idea of using your school's performance evaluation to claim stupidity for all time, I think I'm going to start doing the same 😂
I sincerely hope you don't think a president actually said that.
But honestly, at this point, real presidents have said much, much dumber things.
@@AnonymousAnonymous-kw5in I mean, a cartoon character based off one said that. That being JFK from Clone High.
But yeah, I could see a president saying that now of days, given how their IQ has been going down.
Adef uploading a video instantly makes the day 10x better
The comments on the punching guy still killed me. Absolutely vicious lmao
the greatest ad integration we will ever see
My thoughts exactly 👏🏽
This is the last place i expected to see Max Verstappen today...
If you think about it....the Mach bike could be used for sim racing.
Adef posted another crazy Pokemon-Science project? Awesome sounds like doing the dishes will be fun today
Those were some strong feelings about a stock image man... and you're absolutely right about all of them
the big racetrack in the sky when theyre done being around forever
Now we know what Lt. Surge used for transportation during the war
10:53 a huge crack breaking the sound barrier? Like that BONK sound whenever you run into a wall?
“Has anything like this happened in real life?”
Yes, and it’s called an explosion
11:08 I mean they casually experienced escape volicity so it checks out.
8:44 So you're telling me that Pokémon Emerald is a fever dream May and Brendon are having on rainbow road and Scott is uncle Ted.
I had a good friend who’s dad bought him one of these for his birthday back in ‘07 without knowing it’s power, he rode it up to the end of the street and when he turned back he burned all the hair off his body and broke all the windows in the neighbourhood
A loud sound, you say?
**thud**
Gf devs in 2000: yeah lets make the bike simple and easy to control, just going or not going, simple enough.
Adef: THE PHYSICS IMPLICATIONS OF THIS DESTROY THE UNIVERSE
How does he even think of these
Your content exactly matches my nerdy niche taste for science and old-school Pokémon.
As an f1/pokemon fan. I approve of this content, and I don't even disapprove of the British Open Grand Prix renaming.
The intro makes me wanna see a gen villain with a legion of Garchomps, Sharpedos, and Octillery....
Send this to the powerscalers.
Someone tag swagkage.
Imagine the arm strength to keep yourself planted on that bike at 100Gs
Loved this video - fan theories/analysis for unintended consequences are always fun! I also really appreciate you putting the forces into perspective without mentioning some pretty grim deaths or showing car crashes!
the doorway is 0.337m is VERY TINY
1. Bro wait. That means... that means that the door to EVERYWHERE is just 37 centimeters? Big oof! Moving must SUCK. No wonder they needed Machokes to wrestle the furniture through the door!
2. Those kids are TOUGH for taking that many g-forces on a bike. And even TOUGHER for producing those forces with their 10-year-old legs. Somehow them taking down a criminal organization or two and taming one of the strongest pokemon in history isn't so outlandish...
3. Rip for you getting abducted by aliens. Glad they were chill.
4. Thank GOODNESS you don't mow down the NPC's with your Lockheed MB-1. That would make the Pokemon journey quite dark.
5. I loved this video. Hope you're doing well. Thanks for the hard work and humor, and hope you drop another good one soon!
Have you seen the old gen 3 protag art? Their legs are like tree trunks. 😨
I remember an edgy romhack called snakewood where you did pokemon battles but also killed people and ran from zombies. It was contentious in reviews but I enjoyed
@vitriolicAmaranth glad to hear you enjoyed it! I recall the same but never played it. Maybe it's time
Banger video as always, now I'm curious how this compares to Link when charging up a super swim (manual super swim for example) in Wind Waker lol
You're telling me the people and even DOORS are no more wide than 37.7cm? Have you seen how short that actually is? Thats 14.8 inch!
I love videos with titles like this. They always make me laugh
Like this question does not matter at all, but it’s hilarious that someone took the time to answer it anyways. I always have to click on videos like these just to see what the hell the person is talking about
I love how you jumped into calculating the size of the protagonist, when a pretty standard automatic door was above you (which is the exact size of the house door you pass several times in this video)
Those wheelies do be cool tho
feels like there could have been another science tangent at the end calculating the increase in temperature and loudness of sound experienced at the crashes
*Somebody punches you into face*
"Now there's that strange *bonk* sound again.."
Looking forward to an alien sourced science segment at SGDQ
Missed your chance to start this with typing the beginning for the script, "Dear Gamefreak," with classical music and lots of yelling, and icluding THE SCIENCE in the title. This is some Austin stuff. Very good 👍
Adef, I always love your mathematical breakdowns and your editing on these types of videos. Awesome job!
Quick thought: say the player on the Mach Bike was travelling up or down a set of stairs (such as in Victory Road, entering Mirage Island, etc). I'm not sure if there's any actual loss of speed in-game while going up or down stairs when observing from tile-to-tile, so with the added force necessary to make it "up the stairs" at that speed, would the player be able to reach an even higher number of G's than what you calculated? Or would the math work out to where the extra forces for going up to instantly going down would basically cancel each other out resulting in no net gain?
I just realized this. I know this is an old video but, you could have used the door width as an approximation too. The doors are a tile wide, and that’s a known width. Well, I mean at least in America, there are a ton of standards on entry doors to stores and whatnot, and all the doors can fit an adult. However with that math, the tiles would be about a meter wide. Which is…. A lot.
You just reminded me that I still have my first game file of my run in pokemon with 400+ hours on it
“A permanent frame trip in a casket” LMFAO
Applying the laws of earth's physics to video games has always been fascinating to me. Keep up the good work Adef.
well that just makes going for the cycling road record all the more exciting.
This channel is pure gold, I love pokemon and math and watching them combinated is amazing, thanks for your content!
this channel feels like if game theory actually kept being the thing it was about (teaching people math and science using games as a vehicle) instead of becoming about game lore
But who could turn down that sweet, sweet Five Nights at Freddy's money?
You putting Emerald version inside the scarlet version box was akin to the gov't putting the Ark of the Covenant in a storage facility at the end of Raider of the Lost Ark.
This makes me think that we need a Physics based Legendary one day
Pretty sure that's just Giratina
Miraidon
Being hit with a literal sonic boom only does 20 damage so it must have great bulk
There's also Palkia and Dialga as space and time respectively, so with Giratina you basically get that
Veteran fighter jet pilots May and Brendan go to space to fight aliens is the actual plot of ORAS.
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Genuinely love the cross application of your scholarly knowledge and nerdy interests. This is autism heaven for me.
Permanent frame in a casket is probably my favorite ad friendly language 😂
11:53 it used to be red and I know you did that for yt algorithm😂❤
my favourite smart youtuber posted another vid, love you and your work adef!
you are the spiritual successor to old game theory, I am so glad you make these physics videos on silly videogame logic
11:00 alternatively, the npc firmly plants their feet to the ground, catches the player and bike, and imparts their momentum into the earth, making it spin ever so slightly faster or slower
Loved the Quizno's Training Program Advance skit in the beginning
shoutouts to applying real life physics to video game
gotta be one of my favorite genres
That change in direction is rotation around the vertical axis. Not a linear acceleration.
The liquids (and solids) of the body would be forced outward in a semi-cylindrical shape, with a low pressure void in the center. Like a tornado of flesh.
You'd get "the bends" too. Which is fun.
And since it is rotation, different parts of the body would experience nonuniform acceleration depending on their distance from the center.
Then just...stop. The centrifugal forces would subside and the body would collapse in on itself and force air out of the lungs and expel gasses that had bubbled out of dissolution from blood and other liquids.
this feels like old school game theory vid, and i love it
9:03 why would they walk away if they're riding a bike
You’re articulate and intelligent approach is refreshing.
All your videos deserve the views the probability video got. Fantastic work
8:45 "It's called the road, it's called the Rainbow Road, it is a road that you gooooo..."
I'm surprised there was nothing on the fact you can go up what appears to be a slope that's at least 45 degrees if not more like 60+, and is literally loose sand. Though I have no clue how to do math on that lol
This is the first time your videos have reminded me of Game Theory and now I can't unsee it
My jaw would have been on the floor, but I was doing a handstand so instead it accelerated upwards with over 900m/s^2
you could do a similar video on whether or not the effects of a pokemon using the move gravity would be potentially dangerous or lethal, it would probably be able to be mathematically approached as the move would cause specific pokemon that levitate via magnetism (the move magnet rise or an ability description that says so) to fall to the ground, so you could work out the increase in gravitational force based on how much additional force would be required to overcome the magnetic effect
Next video idea, which pokémon could destroy a Leopard 1 MBT (Main Battle Tank)
Oh I actually know what Quiznos aliens you're talking about. I was reminded of those disturbing commercials
When you started talking about the conservation of energy I was hoping you were going to calculate the in universe volume of the bonk sound effect to make up for the missing energy haha. Fun video!
the death rollercoasters kids made in rollercoaster tycoon vs the gen 3 protag:
Maybe this is why bike shops are so rare in Pokemon with each region having only one. Bikes in the pokemon world are not something an average kid would ride to school, these are high tech military vehicles. In Hoenn they can magically absorb absurd g forces to keep the rider safe, and in Sinnoh they could rip apart space through the use of the void glitch.
You can also still do this instantaneous turnaround on Cycling Road, which has an incline, so if you do the turn from traveling downhill to traveling uphill, the acceleration would be even higher since you're also going against the planet's gravity.
To do that calculation you'd need to be able to estimate the steepness of Cycling Road's incline, which is tough because you only see it from head on and it appears to still be totally level with its surroundings. If we ignore for the moment the apparent non-euclidean properties of cycling road, would it be possible to calculate the hill's slope by comparing the differences in velocity between traveling downhill vs uphill vs on flat ground?
I’m living for the physics adef arc
Putting the emerald cartridge in the Scarlet case to hide it was funnier to me than it probably should have been 😂
Love that video - creative and fun ad reads are so much better than just reading a copy.
I'm so glad that my 2am TH-cam rabbit hole journey brought me here
Genuinely one of my fav channels on yt rn
I lost it at “many frame trip in the pokemon center”
They built an expensive machine for artificial gravity for Goku and all they needed was one of these bikes
You don't cycle with Machs power - you strap yourself in and feel the G's!
so this is also a free realistic breakdown of dragon ball’s gravity training and how saiyan biology must be insane.
Some how, this one was more fun that which pokemon should actually learn Flash. And I loved that vid too! Keep up the great work :)
I would argue that May/Brendan dont make visual contact with walls/NPCs so they must be braking even if we the players don't manually do so.
Thus they would be pressing their kinetic energy into the brakepads and the ground as they stop themselves from crashing.
Can't wait for you to be the next Game Theory host in 5-7 years
I haven't played a Pokemon game since Yellow, but I assume that was a sick burn at the end.
cant wait for ur channel to blow up in popularity bc this shits awesome every uploaf
9:40 NPC's don't take the impact, Brendan and May have amazing reflexes and stop before they would hit them, as evidence by the fact they stop at the same rate when a trainer look at them from afar.
My headcannon is that the sound we here when "bumping into things" is our brain telling us not to run into them, like Professor Oak telling us that it's not the time to use that
Wanna say I've been appreciating your videos for a while, youre currently my favorite youtuber. keep up the incredible work adef!
omg i LOVE your videos, you're so much fun, i was having a panic attack before bed so that's perfectly timed, thank you so much
Well the physics you used apply to the bike going backwards upon turning, try calculating the acceleration rotating the bike 180 degrees