This bus used to be white in color. I was a fuel jockey at Atlanta Gateway Truck Stop in Atlanta Ga (Duluth Ga) back in 73-75. I use to fuel this buss when it came through Atlanta. Good memories! Back in the day it was a one of a kind corporate bus. I'm assuming that Big Mac is referring to McDonalds.
Not sure if any one has commented yet but that is the same rig "Bus Grease Monkey" got running a couple of years ago. Made a whole series on what he had to put together to get it going so the guy could drive it the 700 miles to get it home.
"Coolant" isn't only to protect from freezing- it also raises the boiling temperature of the water, so you can keep those temperatures & pressures down, and it also lubricates the cooling system, fights corrosion and electrolysis.
Trick to starting these old Detroit’s; cycle the glow plugs (if it has them) a couple times, crank on it a few seconds and let it rest, crank on it again (it should try starting) let it rest a few more seconds, cycle the glow plugs and crank on it, it should fire off. One thing you do not want to do is get her addicted to ether
nothing is as permanent as a temporary fix. With the headlights, I'm thinking a loose connection underneath got jogged when you were playing with the airlines.
I cut my teeth on 71 Series Detroit both 6-71 and 8V71's in Astro 95's when I started pulling wrenches for a company named Luby Leasing back in 72'. Loved the Detroit, when I went to Ryder in 74' most of the guys there did not like the Detroit's so those were funneled to me for repairs. My dad worked with a gentleman in Memphis back in the early 70's who bought coaches like this and converted them to coaches for the Country Entertainers. That guys name was Jim Britton.
starts up great now. moving to the south will do it some good. by the time you get to nashville you should know what it needs. it being a turbo it should run pretty good. blow the soot out of it on the interstate.
I would replace the aeroquipt lines back to the fuel tank and check the pick up tube in the tank. Those lines will deteriorate over the years. Just a thought
You, any many others, it seems- "aren't fond of ether". First- it got a bad reputation from people using it incorrectly- "Starting Fluid" is ether and *Carnation White mineral oil* that must only be sprayed *WHILE CRANKING* in *3 second bursts.* The special low flash mineral oil lubricates the rings, valves & cylinders, helping to raise compression, aid in lowering rotational friction, and ignite easier than plain diesel. I see people all the time spray then crank, not spray enough, or spray way too much- risking a hydrolock. It will not "wash cylinders" or harm crankcase oil, when used *PROPERLY.* *Shake well* *Spray while cranking* *3 Second bursts*
Antifreeze also contains lubricants - which make the water pump last far longer (and dissipates earlier) than the primary anti-freezing ingredients. 🛢️
Actually, engines (as in the physical engine components to be exact) with antifreeze coolant instead of plain DONT Run cooler, they run HOTTER! than those using straight water (not by much but they do with everything else being equal). Reason is that adding Antifreeze (Glycol) lowers the heat carrying capacity of Water, meaning that a given amount of Coolant mix has less heat capacity / transfer than that straight water. Now the reduced thermal capacity is partially offset by the somewhat increased boiling point but not totally. You might not see it in the Coolant temps much, but the actual physical components will be hotter with antifreeze due to reduced thermal transfer. Now if your somewhere where its freezing cold to the point that anti-freeze is a must, then the reduced thermal efficiency shouldn't be of any concern as you'll be running on the lower end of the thermostats regulating range in such conditions. So the best range to be in if you want maximum cooling ability while still having sufficient corrosion protection in Non-Freezing Conditions is around the 25-30% antifreeze, or lower if you add supplemental protection agents (eg Water Wetter) to make up for the reduced additives. Anti-freeze mixes below about 20% are actually more corrosive than plain water. In Freezing conditions, use a sufficiently strong mix to provide freeze protection against the expected low temperatures plus some safety margin. Vehicle manufacturers tend to specify a 50/50 mix because its a valid compromise that works suitably for most conditions in most places so its an easy default. almost all automotive Anti Freeze also have some nasty properties to them: It's Highly toxic (It will kill you or make you very sick if ingested, Except for the not very so common Propylene Glycol, which is actually food safe) If it gets into the oil for some reason, it absolutely destroys the oil's lubrication properties (Almost ALL Diesel Locomotives in Non-Freezing conditions do NOT use it as a result) it's slick in its own right (Hence race tracks usually ban it, and you can only run water + Water Wetter or Engine ice) Hopefully that gives you some useful insight.
First, I think all flying insects for three or four miles down wind have met their maker. I hate to see those flapping belts, I am sure OSHA would like to see "belt guards" on them for safety reasons. (if they have jurisdiction over moving engines and I think they do) It sounds OK running to me also. Ron W4BIN
Hey man, Kevin here from Australia. This bus certainly holds it own in the looks department. Q. If its not already done is Lance going to to a auto transmission conversion. Anyhoo stay ssfe and stay healthy. ✌ Peace
Did I miss it or how come the Bus Grease Monkey worked on this bus last, Including the electric shutdown a year ago and you did not know about it? He explained how he hooked it up.
It drives the fans for the radiators. It was the most effective solution at the time. But my later bus's it definitely could have been improved. But they seem to work well.
Noticed you kept talking about how much antifreeze you were putting in but in reality anti freeze serves 2 purposes in an engine. first is truely to prevent freezing but the second and just as important is lubrication in the cooling system to prevent rust thus preventing clogging the cooling system and that little word of wisdom from a lifelong 77 year old mechanic
The lubricant wears out far quicker than the antifreeze feature, doesn't it? 🤔 The only time I've ever had to stop on the road (since 1991) is because of a bad water pump on my 83 Mercedes 300D turbo diesel...
@@Austin8thGenTexan Yes it does and thats why its important to MAINTAIN the cooling system the same as you would any other part of your car and also why you can now buy antifreeze already premixed but I always buy it pure antifreeze both and mix it myself such as 1 gal will make 2 gallons and that is what I use to top off my antifreeze but at least every 3 years reguardless the coolant in your automobille should be drained and refilled that way you maintain the lubricant level as well as the freeze level all this from a 77 year old retired mechanic that spent 21 of those years working as a fleet mechanic for flowers baking company and my job included both cars and trucks as well as gasoline and diesel engines .
Correct me if I’m wrong but shouldn’t the radiator blowers have two struts supporting the blowers to prevent them from sagging and dragging? Merely curious as I remember your dad explaining why their important. Thanks
Old Lance bought a McDonalds bus Ee i ee i oh no! And on his bus he had some paint flakes Ee i ee i oh no! With a paint flake here And a rust hole there Here a rust, there a rust Everywhere a rust-rust Old Lance bought a McDonalds bus Ee i ee i oh no! Old Lance bought a McDonalds bus Ee i ee i oh no!
This bus used to be white in color. I was a fuel jockey at Atlanta Gateway Truck Stop in Atlanta Ga (Duluth Ga) back in 73-75. I use to fuel this buss when it came through Atlanta. Good memories! Back in the day it was a one of a kind corporate bus. I'm assuming that Big Mac is referring to McDonalds.
Not sure if any one has commented yet but that is the same rig "Bus Grease Monkey" got running a couple of years ago. Made a whole series on what he had to put together to get it going so the guy could drive it the 700 miles to get it home.
"Coolant" isn't only to protect from freezing- it also raises the boiling
temperature of the water, so you can keep those temperatures & pressures down,
and it also lubricates the cooling system, fights corrosion and electrolysis.
Exactly.. I have seen power generators for Aircraft lock up druning the summer because MX ran pure water in the system
This is enjoyable. Thanks for letting us watch
Tyler, that made me spit my coffee out laughing.... the name of the coolant ‘durex’ is Britain’s leading brand of condoms!
When the rubber hits the road!
That is a beautiful Bus. I'm glad it is in your hands. Fires right up with very little smoke.
Bravo, it runs....Looking forward to the rest of the pre trip inspection ...
Great classic bus! The engine sounds so sweet!
The “Rabbit Hole” for the “Ether Bunny”...
either it'll start or ether it will
Lol
Comming up soon... Enter Alice in-a-can
LMAOOOO!! That’s absolutely hilarious ! 🤣🤣🤣
Great job guys, it sounds awesome!!!
Those old Buses are absolutely beautiful. Mike, Northern Ireland 👍🍻
Trick to starting these old Detroit’s; cycle the glow plugs (if it has them) a couple times, crank on it a few seconds and let it rest, crank on it again (it should try starting) let it rest a few more seconds, cycle the glow plugs and crank on it, it should fire off. One thing you do not want to do is get her addicted to ether
Nice job getting it running! It sounds so sweet
Makes your pipes and rad safe 🤣
Love it, "Not sure how I fixed it but it works now"👍 That is a nice bus less the fire in the hole cleanup
Hey Lance! it runs!! Sounding sweet!
That is a sweet bus,,good luck on the trip,,stay safe,,🇺🇸☕️☕️👍
nothing is as permanent as a temporary fix. With the headlights, I'm thinking a loose connection underneath got jogged when you were playing with the airlines.
I rode in one many, many years ago , Yes, it is a beautiful vehicle!
Sounds good very jealous of you all looks real nice
You’re close to me! It would’ve been great to see you guys’ analysis and work on this bus!
That is going to be a great bus for what Lance is doing with them.
Congrats it's running.
I cut my teeth on 71 Series Detroit both 6-71 and 8V71's in Astro 95's when I started pulling wrenches for a company named Luby Leasing back in 72'. Loved the Detroit, when I went to Ryder in 74' most of the guys there did not like the Detroit's so those were funneled to me for repairs. My dad worked with a gentleman in Memphis back in the early 70's who bought coaches like this and converted them to coaches for the Country Entertainers. That guys name was Jim Britton.
Nice progress
Nice looking bus
Looks alot better with out the office supplies that were in your dad's first tour of the bus
What a gorgeous machine. Congratulations Lance and Tyler. I'm ready to go for a ride in it tomorrow.
starts up great now. moving to the south will do it some good. by the time you get to nashville you should know what it needs. it being a turbo it should run pretty good. blow the soot out of it on the interstate.
Sounds good once you talked it into starting. Takes a minute to get rolling though. Maybe that's normal since you didn't mention it. Nicely done.
I would replace the aeroquipt lines back to the fuel tank and check the pick up tube in the tank. Those lines will deteriorate over the years. Just a thought
The plan is to replace all the lines when it's back in Nashville.
Is the screen before the turbo for birds and small children?
what a beauty
for what I know, it seems like it might have been a good idea to pull the valve covers and check the rack and injector function first.
That is a beautiful bus! Sounds nice too.
Pull the valve covers and make sure the fuel crossover tubes are tight.
He sounds real good
I've had that happen about three times. Nothing is as scary as a wide-open Detroit diesel.
Nice 👍
I would disconnect the throttle linkage to make sure it moves freely.
Full steam ahead.......
Neat video - you and Hey Lance make a good team. Lance is unique, he banks so he can drive buses - amazing.
"Where is my shut-off tool?"
*Gets a Crowbar*
Nice bus....
Best case - what is the fuel consumption 5 MPG ? thanks
You, any many others, it seems- "aren't fond of ether".
First- it got a bad reputation from people using it incorrectly-
"Starting Fluid" is ether and *Carnation White mineral oil* that
must only be sprayed *WHILE CRANKING* in *3 second bursts.*
The special low flash mineral oil lubricates the rings, valves & cylinders,
helping to raise compression, aid in lowering rotational friction, and
ignite easier than plain diesel.
I see people all the time spray then crank, not spray enough, or
spray way too much- risking a hydrolock. It will not "wash cylinders"
or harm crankcase oil, when used *PROPERLY.*
*Shake well*
*Spray while cranking*
*3 Second bursts*
You guys simply got lucky,......😎🥺✌️👍
I have worked on more of these engines than I care to remember.
For those who didnt know: an engine with antifreeze runs cooler than just water. + it protects it from rusting.
There was some still in it. But knowing its getting all new hoses and cleaned out when it gets back we didn't want to waste coolant.
Antifreeze also contains lubricants - which make the water pump last far longer (and dissipates earlier) than the primary anti-freezing ingredients. 🛢️
Actually, engines (as in the physical engine components to be exact) with antifreeze coolant instead of plain DONT Run cooler, they run HOTTER! than those using straight water (not by much but they do with everything else being equal).
Reason is that adding Antifreeze (Glycol) lowers the heat carrying capacity of Water, meaning that a given amount of Coolant mix has less heat capacity / transfer than that straight water. Now the reduced thermal capacity is partially offset by the somewhat increased boiling point but not totally.
You might not see it in the Coolant temps much, but the actual physical components will be hotter with antifreeze due to reduced thermal transfer.
Now if your somewhere where its freezing cold to the point that anti-freeze is a must, then the reduced thermal efficiency shouldn't be of any concern as you'll be running on the lower end of the thermostats regulating range in such conditions.
So the best range to be in if you want maximum cooling ability while still having sufficient corrosion protection in Non-Freezing Conditions is around the 25-30% antifreeze, or lower if you add supplemental protection agents (eg Water Wetter) to make up for the reduced additives.
Anti-freeze mixes below about 20% are actually more corrosive than plain water.
In Freezing conditions, use a sufficiently strong mix to provide freeze protection against the expected low temperatures plus some safety margin.
Vehicle manufacturers tend to specify a 50/50 mix because its a valid compromise that works suitably for most conditions in most places so its an easy default.
almost all automotive Anti Freeze also have some nasty properties to them:
It's Highly toxic (It will kill you or make you very sick if ingested, Except for the not very so common Propylene Glycol, which is actually food safe)
If it gets into the oil for some reason, it absolutely destroys the oil's lubrication properties (Almost ALL Diesel Locomotives in Non-Freezing conditions do NOT use it as a result)
it's slick in its own right (Hence race tracks usually ban it, and you can only run water + Water Wetter or Engine ice)
Hopefully that gives you some useful insight.
First, I think all flying insects for three or four miles down wind have met their maker. I hate to see those flapping belts, I am sure OSHA would like to see "belt guards" on them for safety reasons. (if they have jurisdiction over moving engines and I think they do) It sounds OK running to me also. Ron W4BIN
How many of these McDee MCI's remain?
Hey man,
Kevin here from Australia.
This bus certainly holds it own in the looks department.
Q. If its not already done is Lance going to to a auto transmission conversion.
Anyhoo stay ssfe and stay healthy.
✌ Peace
It sounds like it already has an auto in it.
Isn't that the bus that had 2 mechanics die while trying to put that engine init? Your dad worked on it in NC a few years back
It is indeed.
@@2flyabove yeah, I'm watching the video before this one now lol. I recognized it as soon as I saw it!
@@2flyabove Thought I recognized it, is it the ex McDonalds bus?
Can anyone post the link?
@@stephenhunter70 It is indeed the ex McD's bus... See: th-cam.com/video/R660sHnDysg/w-d-xo.html
What engine does the bus use?
top, onibus de verdade.
👍
Big Mac is ready to eat
Thinking of something else when looking at Durex liquid
Your dad made the intake pipes on this one I think.
Are all the burned leads disconnected? Did you bring your multimeter to check power in those sooty wires?
They were all 110v. We didn't power on any of that system.
Nyz ❤️
SAWEET !
Is that the McDonalds Bus that your Dad did a lot of work to get in on the road it has the firetruck engine
Yep
Funny name for anti freeze has a different meaning in uk lol
Ahhh the long drive belts of death.............
Did I miss it or how come the Bus Grease Monkey worked on this bus last, Including the electric shutdown a year ago and you did not know about it? He explained how he hooked it up.
Hey Lance... the engine is running! And it sounds a million bucks!
I had to laugh, adding Durex for a little protection.
Durex make antifreeze aye? 😳😳😳
Had to laugh when the word "protection" was used but let's hope all the rubber was intact.
Nothing worse then perished rubber........and I'm talking about tyres of course!!
Sounds like my girl trying to start at 8000 feet.
You had it started then turned off ignition
1:40 DUREX 🤔🤔🤔
What engine is that? V8 or straight 6?
8v71ta
"Big Mac MC8" is this one with cheese and onions?
Nice! Did you even know if the engine would turn over before paying for it? Or was it an "AS IS" situation.
As is, it hadn't been ran in over a year. They attempted to start it and gave up and had it towed there.
Here's the back story. th-cam.com/video/7XoAFpc9bfE/w-d-xo.html
Durex is a brand of condom over here, so still in the protection game.
That long belt on MCI Buses looks like it will jump off to me. Just saying..
I would be afraid of a stuck injector rack on one of these.
This has a spring rack. So there's less of concern.
I dont understand what you say,man!Litl slow need!
that belt seems like an afterthought.
and unnecessarily long
It drives the fans for the radiators. It was the most effective solution at the time. But my later bus's it definitely could have been improved. But they seem to work well.
8v71?
Yep 8v71ta
Noticed you kept talking about how much antifreeze you were putting in but in reality anti freeze serves 2 purposes in an engine. first is truely to prevent freezing but the second and just as important is lubrication in the cooling system to prevent rust thus preventing clogging the cooling system and that little word of wisdom from a lifelong 77 year old mechanic
The lubricant wears out far quicker than the antifreeze feature, doesn't it? 🤔 The only time I've ever had to stop on the road (since 1991) is because of a bad water pump on my 83 Mercedes 300D turbo diesel...
@@Austin8thGenTexan Yes it does and thats why its important to MAINTAIN the cooling system the same as you would any other part of your car and also why you can now buy antifreeze already premixed but I always buy it pure antifreeze both and mix it myself such as 1 gal will make 2 gallons and that is what I use to top off my antifreeze but at least every 3 years reguardless the coolant in your automobille should be drained and refilled that way you maintain the lubricant level as well as the freeze level all this from a 77 year old retired mechanic that spent 21 of those years working as a fleet mechanic for flowers baking company and my job included both cars and trucks as well as gasoline and diesel engines .
@@douglasmorrison9098 Excellent advice, Mr. Morrison - duly noted! Best wishes to you and yours... 🌷
Gar lmxagui
There are cooling liquid that dosen't contain any water so that the engine wont rost. Jay Leno is using it whith good result.
Дюрэкс это не тосол а смазка для презервативов,зачем ее заливать в мотор?))
Correct me if I’m wrong but shouldn’t the radiator blowers have two struts supporting the blowers to prevent them from sagging and dragging?
Merely curious as I remember your dad explaining why their important.
Thanks
It won't get pregnant, at least....
Old Lance bought a McDonalds bus
Ee i ee i oh no!
And on his bus he had some paint flakes
Ee i ee i oh no!
With a paint flake here
And a rust hole there
Here a rust, there a rust
Everywhere a rust-rust
Old Lance bought a McDonalds bus
Ee i ee i oh no!
Old Lance bought a McDonalds bus
Ee i ee i oh no!