Every budding photographer should be paying attention to THIS youtube review. This is reality, not hyperbole or shilling that you see mostly in written/video reviews online. As a pro photographer who also reviews cameras online, I can fully endorse this video to photographers who want to hear some truth for a change. Keep it up Martin, we need more of "us" out there, and maybe one day camera companies will start to listen as well. GREAT JOB.
@@MartinCastein I agree with Carl that Martin has hit the nail on the head with this video, regardless of what gear you use. As a professional photographer and filmmaker (shooting a wide range of subjects across 💯 countries and all climates), even in 2023, I still mainly rely on the Nikon superb D800 plus the old but legendary AF-D (bombproof) range of lenses, and a Panasonic GH3 system with.
Thanks for this Carl. 😊 Yes, Anyone can learn something from Martin. And EVERYBODY can learn something from Photography, as NOONE knows it all. There is ‘something’ about Photography that seems to bring out the snobbery and presumed expertise in some? Just read some of the online forums. Photography should be about enjoying and learning and encouraging others in our shared craft. It would make for better times. Please be kind. Thank You
"You are the photographer. The cameras are the tools. You are transferring your skills through the different cameras" These words should be repeated on any YT photography channel. I have been using cooking as an analogy to photography... there are many ways to interpret a recipe or create a meal; kitchenware are only the tools. Thanks for your input; I am getting to know and appreciate my D800... which I also bought used.
The D800 was the first camera of any brand with 13 stops of DR and it took years for other camera brands do catch up. Most cameras now have gotten to about the same DR but Sony and R Canons to get the extended DR use non-defeatable raw noise reduction, and Canon uses it at low and high ISO with only a narrow range where is is not applied. I never understood the focus of photography is on bodies and the constant excitement about new models and constantly updating models. If someone is getting better images it is more likely due to more experience of the photographer or honing their style more. Replacing bodies with every release is a poor use of funds. For me, as a studio and location portrait shooter, plus location ballet, opera, and fine art shooter, far more effective use of funds is in lighting and modifiers. I have the D800 I got in that first week of release. later when I needed two bodies, I added the D850 and then a Z6. Most of my work is on the Z6. It is strange when hobbyists check out my gear on a location shoot, they always comment about my choice of camera for the session, citing later models as if I am handicapped for using a lowly Z6 or D800., as if they could tell the difference between an image shot with any camera from the last 15 years. Someone with a limited budget is much better off with a rugged 5-10 yo camera and invest in workshops or lighting or professional models or MAU, lights, for portrait shooters, or a lighter tripod if a landscape shooter
I am now a GFX user, but I still have my D800 and currently have the battery on recharge as I plan on using it in a few days. I genuinly miss using that camera. I was going through some old photos and actually realised that I took some really strong shots with it. You don't realise how much you miss something until you don't use it anymore. I love the GFX, but I miss the speed, simplicity and OVF of that thing. Pure enjoyment using that DSLR.
I sold my D800 about a year ago and almost instantly regretted it. In terms of colour, dynamic range and resolution there are few other cameras that can match it for the price if any, the images can be simply stunning straight out of camera. After kicking myself for a year and trying other cameras and systems I have just bought another one along with the superb Tokina 100mm F2.8 macro. Fantastic camera. Cheers John Pouw NZ
@@Bladderfootball The D800 focuses well, not exceptional by today's standards but more than sufficient. Generally in landscapes and macro I manually focus anyway but I never felt the AF on the D800 was bad at all for portraits etc.
I haven’t upgraded my D800 since I got it back in 2012. It still continues to produce amazing images for me :) The only other camera purchase I have made since then are old film cameras and prime lenses. I _recently_ picked up a Fuji X100V for an everyday / travel camera, when I don’t want to lug the old beast around. Re: durability, you’ll have a hard time breaking the D800. That thing has been all around the world with me, from the dusty, hot Australian Outback to the freezing Icelandic shores. I’ve dropped it on rocks, it’s blown over on tripods, it’s been rained on, slushed on, mudded on… you name it. The camera is unstoppable.
Thanks Milton thats great to hear, thats the kind of conditions i want it for too and i can well believe it will live up to expectations its built to the highest standards quite evidently.
I've gotten my snowshoes tangled up in branches and landed on my D800 more times than I'd like to admit, had my tripod blown over. Think keeps on clicking, and I think I've taken more damage and aged more than it has. When I added my D850 the resolution difference wasn't exactly noticeable when printed.
And while I really enjoyed my X100V, I sold it (for more than I purchased it for) last year, and upgraded to a Zf... and MAN.. _that_ camera is awesome. The D800 has been relegated to scanning film for me, but I can't bring myself to part with it!@@BorealASMR
@MiltonGeorges I've seen how sharp the Z mount glass is, and I seriously considered switching, but decided the bodies I have are going to be with me until they die.
I love this video, finally someone that says what needs to be said. BRAVO. I mean that quite seriously. The whole time I was listening I was shaking my head in agreement. I soot with the 850 and wouldn't give it up for anything. I do want an 800 or 810 for backup. So again thanks this was a breath of fresh air.
I let my 800e go a few years ago and get pangs of regret now and again. Lately I’ve been futzing with my d700 and it’s made me realize that albeit my Z system cameras are nice, sometimes only a dslr will do. A simple uncluttered viewfinder with no focus tracking or face and eye detection boxes darting around is a nice and welcomed break. The new tech is incredible but after a while I’m worn down and the camera has become yet another device I have to interact with.
While not a fulltime photographer solely (I own a marketing agency with a photo studio) I only shoot with a D810 (primary) and a D800 (back-up). The range dynamics are incredible, but so it the enormous files, making them perfect for close crop without image quality loss. Indoor shots using HDR is amazing, as is my macro work (floral and bugs). And no other camera short of medium or large format compares with the headshots and portraits the D810/800 provides.
I have a D800 and D850, both used for landscape and northern lights photography. The dynamic range and image quality is fantastic on both bodies. To anyone in the megapixel race, 36mp is absolutely enough you'll never see that resolution on a screen, and it will print large beautifully. Being able to easily locate controls through gloves in the dark is essential for northern lights, which is the majority of my work, and both bodies offer that.
TH-cam needs more content like yours! Cameras are simply tools with strengths and weaknesses but we are the ones using them for our own creative ends. If there is a better tool for a specific job then it shouldn’t matter what the brand name is. I absolutely love my Canon 5d classic for portraits but it may not be what I would pick for architecture for example and it doesn’t even do video so of course I would need a different tool for that
Just bought a second-hand D800 with 52k clicks as an upgrade from my D600 which was on its last legs, which was in itself an upgrade from a D7100. I don't need all of the modern bells and whistles as I only shoot landscapes or take photos of old buildings. The D800 is all that I need going forward, and I am happy with my purchase. Prior to this I was using a Fuji X-T2 which I still love to bits, but I'm going to have the D800 as my mainstay. Thanks for a great video, really enjoyed hearing your thoughts.
Got my d800 in 2013. Still have it and still use it. D800 was the first camera where resolution simply no longer matters. One thing that it did for me is it gave new life to old lenses. On D90 i could see a bunch of flaws of old lenses like 50mm f/1.4 AIs, but on D800 due to its dynamic range and resolution these "flaws" were transformed into character. Due to pixel pitch you definitely need to slow down with d800 as compared to d90; or d800 will clearly show your poor technique. This is actually a benefit. As you slow down and start to respect the camera, you will pay more attention to composition and will get better pictures.
No builder would be criticised for using Makita tools for one job and DeWalt for another. They use the tool best suited for the job in hand. I don't know when, where or how we ended up here, but I'm glad you addressed the point. Cameras are tools, no matter their brand. We should use them as such. Thanks for the video. Great channel! Reinaldo from UK.
Got my D600 last year after having used my first DSLR, a D3300, for 9 years, and I'm absolutely loving it. For me it lacks nothing that's really important compared to modern mirrorless cameras costing 10x as much. I also like the diverse MF & AF lens options for Nikon DSLRs, esp. the D600 with the built-in focus motor. But the only reason I can afford such a nice camera system is because most others have either upgraded to or only ever considered much newer and much more expensive gear, so I'm never going to complain about the hype around the latest models.
I just bought one I have been using canon for years but I still have Nikon cameras and lenses, I never seem to have the heart to get rid of my older cameras. I still have my 5d 1&2 but I saw this with a low-ish 22k shutter count and very nice condition without the notorious grip peeling, I have a few FX lenses from my 35mm Nikon F series which I previously used with my D300 including a 50mm so I have a few starter lenses. I have only tool about 200 shots and I'm just getting used to the feel and trying different setting to see what I can achieve, I'm not a landscape guy mostly industrial archaeology and trains/vehicles if I'm not up to tramping about. I love your channel and it's great to see and hear your unbiased well thought out advice and insights, keep up the good work.
When I bought my first camera, it was a tie between Nikon and Canon and until today I think either one would be excellent. In the end, I bought the Nikon. However, being an amateur, I do not want to buy glass for several systems and therefore I stick with Nikon. I could not agree more on the gear aspect. I just bought a D7200 from 2014 because it has practically the same controls then my D750. The D7200 is a great piece of gear I bought for 350 Euros. So I can give it to my kids without getting a panic attack when I see them handling the camera. Dynamic Range, Low light are great. I could not be happier. And I get the glass for what? 35% of the price of lenses for mirrorless bodies. The D800 or D810 with their professional controls are cool pieces of kit. A little heavy for an amateur. But maybe one day I buy one for dedicated projects. It is not true, that gear does not matter. But the best gear is worthless in the wrong hands. In order to really benefit from the latest gimmicks often you need very special requirements (for example bird photography). For my use even my D750 or D7200 are more than enough. I subscribed your channel
My gear for landscape images include the Nikon D850, D750, and Pentax K1. For portrait work I will grab the Nikon D700 or D780. For general photos or really anything I will grab either of the afore mentioned or the Nikon D7100, D500, or maybe the Olympus EM5-II, or EM1-III. Yes, I have too many and that doesn't begin to allow for my film cameras. I love photography and have g.a.s.
hahahahaa its ok to have g.a.s i had it for a long time. its one thing to enjoy the gear, thats fine but i think when people think it makes them a better photographer that it becomes a problem, which clearly isnt the case for you.
You are absolutely right. I have a D850 but indeed I do not take it with me in to harsh environments, rainy weather etc.... Therefore I also have a couple of D800 cameras. And the D800 is still delivering. A 36mp fullframe camera and they cost around 400 bucks now.
Ive come across a D800e for 749 with a Nikon grip and just over 100,000 shutter shots. I stopped doing pro work, sold all my gear and switched to smaller, tiny cameras 5yrs ago. Just switched to cell phone, as someone challenged me to do so for 4 months. Well, that time is up and I feel the need to purchase a great used D800e and 35mm, and 85mm.
Martin I loved this video, loved you honesty and it refreshing to not be watching another you tuber expert !!i have just moved back to Nikon from a Sony A7 mk111 was not feeling it with that camera, its very good but the size of it and the fact it has so much that it can do, took all the fun out of it for me. The thing you said about about breaking or loosing it, also worried me too, plus I enjoyed the process of taking pictures with a DSLR. I owned and loved the Nikon D7200 crop frame, I have just brought a cheap 15000 actuation D800 ! not received it yet but with my Nikon 24-70 f2.8 and my 70-200 Sigma f2.8 I think its going to be great. Anyway i have subscribed love the video thanks
I'm hasselblad x2d user, and it's a great camera, nothing can compare with images capured with hassi.. That said, i own D800 for years now; it's not like hassi but it's not that far away. I still use it with joy, it's my r'n'r camera. In fact, my personal favorite pics i didn't took with hasselblad, it was with Nikon D800!
I had to smile when you mentioned your dynamic workflow with Canon cameras. I had to do precisely the same. You end up with at least 4 files instead of one, plus the Canon noise starts showing up even in the highlights when you run more than 5 exposures (sunrise landscape with forest, for example) - banding… that’s why I ultimately and permanently switched to Nikon (D810) and will upgrade to a D850 at best. It was quite a plunge, replacing expensive studio equipment with Nikon versions, but it was SO worth it. No Canon even remotely scratched the (Sony) sensor performance of the D810 even a couple of years after its release. I keep my Canons for macros and as backups, but my heart was stolen by Nikon 😅
Martin, Enjoyed your discussion. I bought a D800e last summer after killing my D7200. Wanted to move to a full frame and found a great deal on the 800e with low shutter count. I have been very impressed with the camera so far and other than lacking a few bells and whistles, it is a great tool. Image quality is fantastic. I do mainly Landscape and Nature photos as well, But am starting to branch out to some other fields and just yesterday shot a western horse show and had unbelievable results. Great camera and goes to show you, sometimes older technology is still good! Will watch for more of your content and how you get on the your 800. Many thanks and keep snapping!
Great video with a great point! - I shoot as a pure hobbyphotographer and i'm no Joe McNally nor Morten Hilmer. I have a D4s for action/wildlife and a D800 for slower things as portrait/landscape and i love'em both! - Next step will prolly be some mirrorless, but right now the limits are my creative skills - not the cameras. Cheers from Sweden!
I have been using D500s and D7500s for several years. When I began using a Lensbaby Burnside 3500, an Sol 45, and later, a Helios 58mm f2,I desired a full frame camera body. I found a D800 E which was fairly affordable. I love it; it is now my most used camera (except for avian photography and infrared), and I love my D800. I had bought the E model, which is what what was available; I have never used the original D800, so I don't know what the difference would be. I use several FX lenses, a 14mm, 24 f2.8, 35mm f2, 50mm f1.8, my Lensbabies and Helios. I own a 70-200 f2.8 which I use on all my cameras and a 200-500 f5.6 which so far I have used only on my D500. The D800 is fairly hefty, but comfortable enough to carry with a short prime lens. All my cameras are fairly robust, but the D800 may be the toughest of them all. I would love to have a printed manual for the D800, but so far, I am doing well by using the menus.
I have two d300,,d7000,,d90,,d40,,,Im looking out for a d800,,,I just love Nikon DSLR,, the menu system a doddle to navigate and program your own settings , one of my d300 is for taking landscapes and believe me I've dropped this beast loads of times and this thing just keeps going and going, absolute tank of a camera,, just subbed your channel I admire your honesty the camera is just a tool, I'm currently on the look out for a d800, believe it to be an absolute tank as well.
Just came across this vid, really impressive and informative. I'm an enthusiastic amateur, but don't specialise in any one genre. I shoot anything, anywhere. No flash photography, no photoshop, no coloured filters, Jpeg fine. Luckily enough this hobby/interest have got me to work many music festivals, national and international artists, worked alongside the Royal British Legion, fun community days in parks and a few weddings, sporting events and football/rugby tournaments also. Just as happy plodding along down the local canal with a drone and camera firing away of anything interesting. Just got back from Crete, and did cover the Chania rock festival also, but so hot, sweaty, dry, sunny, the total opposite to South Wales lol. The breeze on the beach sweeping up sand also was a killer to the cameras so took out a Go Pro 12 with waterproof case to save my main cameras. I run 3x D7100, 10.5 fisheye 2.8, 35/50 1.8 primes, 17-50 Sigma 2.8, and a new Sigma 70-200 2.8 also. I can get 1,300 shots off one 32g card, and running 2x slots, also close to 900 pics off one battery, so love that aspect off my setup. I been looking at some used equipment going forward, nervously as I am so familiar with my current setup. Looked at Canon, and even Sony mirrorless, but heard mirrorless has issues in low light, and jucy battery use. The use of mirrorless and one lens abroad would be ideal, and much lighter, but see the lenses are still expensive, even used, so hopefully the go pro and cam phone will do the job with travel. I'm nervously looking to get 2x used bodies in the D800 with very low shutter count. I will wait a few more years or so to go full mirrorless. Do you think the D800 will be a good move in the right direction along the way? Or are their any other options to consider with my current setup? Look forward to this reply, all the best, Simon.
Hey buddy, banging video again mate. Totally agree with your comments regarding Professional photographers and their approach and outlook on the equipment used. Also the D800. I only sold mine to make way for the Canon RP last summer. I last used it, last July on a trip to Ilfracombe combined with a 24-70mm lens, and it proved to be the best choice of kit to take (Heavy, but I'm used to carrying the girlfriends bags around too, so not really and issue LOL). The lay out, the build and obvious image quality and fabulous dynamic range make it just about as perfect as you could ever want. The battery life was also stella, and with bit of messing around and practice, it's also a formidable tool for video work. That mentioned dynamic range, has helped me many times when I used it with wedding work I've done, especially when I've experienced sudden, unexpected exposure shifts, due to the fast paced environment I'm in, and the end results have always been impressive, with many a highlight and shadow rescued! I've almost always used it with a flash at the weddings, and found the balance of the sensor size, dynamic range, and flash exposure to be extremely well balanced (Something Nikon do well) and would also say, I've found I've had presentable results, even at higher ISO's when pushed, and with careful post editing, I've been able to push and pull the exposure and been astonished with the outcome. It may not appear to be the best choice for weddings, but I would say to anyone, this is not only a landscape monster, but also a fabulous tool for weddings too, especially for the price they are now! I currently still use the D810, and I can honestly say, I'm keeping that, until it fails. It has slightly improved grip and few subtle tweaks (Although not quite as solidly built as the D800 I've noticed) but it has the same benefits of the D800, including the output. Really looking forward to seeing your content produced with it, when you take it out into the wild, oh, and not forgetting your X-Pro 1 video of course :) Take it easy mate. All the best Gav.J
I read that as boring not banging hahahhaha, Glad you agree, thanks for writing in this level of detail as this helps me too. It confirms my own views too, yeah that x pro 1 video..... *whistles looking at feet*
Hey M.C. I’m not locked into camera brands, I just wish at least one manufacturer would make a camera to suit my requirements. Lots of near hits but no coconut. 1.Full frame 2.Tilting screen 3.IBIS 4.24megapixel sensor, 5.DSLR (not mirrorless) with 100% optical viewfinder made from glass prisms, 6.1:1 and 5:4 as shot aspect ratios 7. Live view 8.Canon DSLR ergonomics Anyhoo, I’ve just purchased (May 15th 2024) the nicest sample I’ve seen so far of a Nikon D800, all the original bits and boxed with battery pack and very low mileage. It arrives tomorrow. 😎
when I buy used (which is always), i always buy a camera body which is already scuffed up a bit with cosmetic damage. 1. Its much cheaper and has no impact on either the images or the functionality, and 2. I'm not ever worried about having to baby it because it already has some marks.
I also like the D600 (I have a D600 with upgraded shutter and a D610). I have big hands, so I find all the Nikon cameras are more comfortable with the battery grip. I like the ability to crop with the D800e. I also agree that brand loyalty is a bit silly. It's like getting angry about whether an Estwing or Craftsman hammer is better. I also use Canon gear and the 5D Mark II corresponds more or less to the D610 and the 5DS to the D800e. Both camera systems have excellent glass available for any sort of need. When people do fall in love with a brand, it's not so bad, though, because passion to use a tool can be inspirational. And if you really enjoy the process I think it helps to produce better work. Out of the camera, I generally like the Canon colors better. But for mid-grade lenses, the Nikon cameras have an edge. For instance, the Nikkor 180mm f/2.8D IF-ED can be purchased used for the cost of a cheap kit lens. The Canon stuff stops abruptly around 1989, since EF glass is needed. But Nikon lenses go back a couple decades more to the F mount AI glass. Does it sound too old to be useful? "The Afghan Girl" was photographed with a Nikkor 105mm f2.5 AI lens. Can't say that I like Canon or Nikon better. I tend to use Canon more, but I just recently bought the D800e, so it may even out.
My D610 died when it slid off a loose arca swiss plate. (devastation !) I dont have the money to change to mirrorless. Ideally I would love a D850, but since retirement I really cant justify the price of one of those. So I settled on a D800. Used price is very keen. Not got one yet, but I have seen one with an incredibly low shutter count, and a great price. I am just looking at the, pro's and cons at the moment. That's why i am here.
I am buying now. One reason it is not as heavy as the D700! The weights of the Nikons are not as bad as they look though, because they are so easy to hold. I am looking forward to your videos with it.
I still have my D800 with Grip. Love it was made in Japan back then. I use it here and there. I use it with the EL18 Battery converter. I also have my D1 that I purchased in 1999 my first DSLR that I use as a paper weight now. It is amazing how much heavier the D1 was than my D4s.
@@MartinCastein It makes the camera big and heavy however that never really bothered me. You keep a battery in the camera just as a reserve because you have to remove the grip to swap it out. But instead of having the two EN-EL -15 in the grip you get the converter door and run one EN-EL18a like a D3 D4 D5 D6.
Well done Adam, why! Some cameras are just special and we want to keep them with us. You can even move on later to newer cameras but still keep this camera.
I have been doing photography since the mid 70’s. I am not a professional but I do freelance work on vintage racing events. I always thought most folks doing photography have different cameras and brands. At this time I have Canon, Nikon , Rollie’s, Fujifilm, Polaroids and other brands. I also shot a lot of film both 35mm and medium format. I own several vintage lenses. So I enjoy using different cameras all the time. I had a Pentax 645 and sold it so now I regret that. I have fun using and shooting all of them.
I got a d810 in 2014 to add to my d700 for more resolution photography and iso 64 in landscape photography. My d700 broke down in 2016, but the d810 is still my main camera when i need amazing image quality. Still impresses me… and to be honest, is better than i am…
A really affordable landscape kit could be a D800 and a few pre-owned wide-angle Nikkor lenses. I was using my 24mm f2.8 ai-s lens on my D700. I get really good images with this set up. I take pictures of the sunrise on the beach(Florida) Later on I bought a used AF 20mm f2.8D. These optics are really good. Shoot with these lenses at f8 and use a tripod and expect outstanding results. I think the next step for me is a D800...(i'm keeping my D700 forever though)
Okay cards on the table, I’m a Nikon fan. I have 5 Nikons, a FA and FM2n from the film era, a D810 I picked up in 2022 nicely priced, a D5 I got this year 2023 which has hardly been run in only 1500 shots taken and without a mark on it this was a bargain for what I paid, I also have a Z7 which I have had from new and it’s a great little camera. Why Nikon, well I can use a lens built in the 1970’s on every single camera so for me it’s about buying into a system that will last a lifetime. Over the years I have owned, Pentax, Canon (film and digital), Olympus, Bronica, Fuji, and Minolta, with the exception of the Minolta all have been excellent. For me it’s just about getting out and taking pictures, my images will probably never win any prestigious competitions but they have been in newspapers and magazines which I am proud of. It doesn’t matter what you own just get out there and enjoy using these marvels to capture those fleeting moments in time. You don’t need the latest and greatest to take wonderful images, a good camera from yesterday took great pictures then as it will today and will continue to do tomorrow. A great channel, thanks for doing these videos.
When you said "my admittedly very small channel" I had to check your subscriber count. It's so strange to me that your channel isn't larger. I guess, on a subconscious level, because I agree with so much of what you say and enjoy your photos/style so much, I just assume that everyone feels the same way that I do and thus your channel "must" be one of the big ones. I, too, own multiple camera brands and styles. I've owned the D800 and was happy with it. I never understood why so many people complained about it.
Ahhh my channel is growing gradually, its small but will get there I hope. I started posting regularly on here about a year ago so im happy enough with the progress so far, its just going to take time. I think the D800 is just about the best value for money camera out there now.
Hai, I've been using a Fujifilm xt1 with the 18-55 exclusively for two years now. It is an old, cheap setup and it has never let me down. I often thought about upgrading, but always continued using it. It got me through many jobs and in different environments and the image quality is still really pleasing. Always amazed what treasure old gear can be when you engage with it. Love to hear you talk about these topics btw :)
Hi Jona, thanks yes i had that 18-55 i nearly went for that with the x pro 1 you know. that was my second choice and im sure id have been very happy with that too. would be lighter thats for sure. Thanks for sharing.
Love the sensor and image output of the X-T1. The only thing that drives me nuts is the buttons are all flush to the body. Someone recommended a video about using Sugru mouldable glue to beef up the buttons son I’m going to try that.
I totally agree because I have one and though I bracket, I pick the best shots to proccese and don't need to blend (as with my D7200 also ) I use it for landscapes too and on a tripod. I've the 24-120 f4 also but lately have used the 20mm f1.8 prime mostly Finally as an ameteur, I would feel the financial pain if it was damaged
I just like Martin’s style of presenting & general approach - it’s the absolute antithesis of ‘The Fro’ & Tony Northrup frenetic attention-seeking style. Btw I got myself 5D Classic to try out last year, but it just felt too alien - after using Nikon all these years & having come to rely on multiple focus points.
I just watched 2 minutes of a cringy Northrup video yesterday where there is a bunch of self-absorbed shots of them leaving their McMansion house to start up their convertible BMW, driving around their fancy neighborhood... all to talk about shooting with small form factor mirrorless cameras. I was thinking, "What in the hell is all this other fluff in the video about??" - TH-camr influencer types are really something.. lol
Thank you Martin, I just got faced with this issue this very week. All my photographer friends have Canon gear, and sadly I do not know anyone who had Nikon. :( Myself, always had Canon... This week on Flickr I ran into shots made by D810 with the Tamron 35mm SP F1.4 lens. They are absolutely fantastic, the "color science", how the pictures look - despite high resolution still relaxed and not fake sharp. It reminded me of the continuation of the 5D classic -> 6D line, as if it was the next step in that evolutionary line - towards higher resolution but maintaining the same look. I know, I remember you said Flickr is full of bad photos... (I know, I posted many bad photos myslef there!! :_) ... yet, I found it useful to find examples taken by different cameras / lenses. Now I find myself dreaming about that Tamron / Nikon combo. With other Nikon lenses the colors are not in Canon's league, but combo! It is absolutely fabulous. And I have always loved the way Nikons work so well for B&W. Your videos were the ones that steered e back to looking at DSLRs, and not focus solely on the new mirrorless. DSLRs are such treasures, and I find them to have so much more human portrayal of the world....
As for cheap and expensive cameras... Well, I'm used to handle any tool with reasonable accuracy and carefully, is it either expensive or cheap. Is it my camera, or my clothes, or bags - doesn't matter, there are qualities we have since early childhood, they're our own distinctive features. Not bad, not good - just like color of our eyes or hair, or the timbre of one's voice.
Interesting discussion about professional photographers vs. non-pro TH-camrs. My experience is that too many professional photographers on TH-cam simply don’t have likable personalities. They tend to come across as snobby, condescending, cynical and all-knowing people. One gets the impression a lot of pro photographers don’t really like photography all that much. I find that sad. I’m semi-retired, but currently work part time as a driver. Technically that makes me a professional driver. I get paid to drive, but I also enjoy driving.
Another belting video Martin. I have a canon 5D classic and now a D800e. I'm looking forward to your D800 landscape videos. Honest videos with from the coal face experience. 👍👍
I had two D800E's that were simply terrific cameras, the IQ was second to none. I sold them a few years ago as I was planning a move to Sony mirrorless and I needed the money so I sold my Nikon gear -- if I didn't need the money I'd still have the D800E's.
Your Common Sense advice as an experienced, professional photographer, is very helpful and interesting. Thank You. Good Luck with this tremendous DSLR.
I would never pair a Nikkor 24-120mm with a Nikon D800 to shoot landscapes. As you said, it's not a particularly sharp lens and the Nikon D800 is very picky when it comes to optics. In my opinion, fixed lenses are much more efficient, even if they are awkward to carry and mount every time. If you have the desire and the time, in my videos you will be able to see shots taken only with fixed lenses. For everything else I fully agree with you. Good boy. Congratulations and thanks for sharing.👍👍👍
@@MartinCastein The 24-120mm is a very versatile lens especially for travel and excursions. I never understood why Nikon didn't make it more powerful in sharpness. Maybe to better sell the 24-70mm? Friendliness.
Alway great lessons of photography, thanks Martin. I found a great approach of HDRwith my Pentax K1 MkII, done in camera. Great results with a 36 MEGAPIXEL sensor.
Glad at least one real photographer sees a camera as a tool to get a certain result. That is what it is. I am not a professional photographer, but I'm dedicated and passionate about photography for decades. The brands of camera bodies I use? Olympus (OM, OM-D and MFT), Canon (5D "mark1"), Nikon... Why? Because every camera body has different properties that serves different goals. It's obvious, isn't it? Indeed the Nikon D600 was my choice for high ISO photos and high dynamic range, but - as you mentioned - it also serves very well for landscapes because of the sensor performance. That was a big plus when I went up hill to take a multi-shot panorama without the aid of a tripod. I was not planning on doing landscapes that day, but it was the occasion that took me there at the moment. If I had to stack these for HDR also, that would definitely have gone wrong. In stead I now have a panorama that's 6 ft wide with amazing resolution and dynamic range. Up until now, no camera of the 600-series delivers such sensor output for that price and that's the main reason it is used so much. Although I have considered buying the 800, the resulting file size would also require 50% more storage and processing time while for me 24 mp is the ultimate joy to use in most circumstances. I guess Nikon realizes that too, looking at their range of bodies in that resolution. That said, I might add that the software also makes a big difference and their use is comparable to the bodies we use. Some are really optimized for high ISO and when I was shooting jet fighters in very heavy rain, I had to choose ISO3200 which turned out to be no problem for printing out 3 ft wide after using PhotoLab with it's incomparable noise reduction features. However, I've recently acquired the D750 with practically similar performance and price range than the D600, but it is a level up in usefulness. The Canon 5D is a jewel for my legacy lenses from the 70's because of its flange distance. It's kind of slow but compared to the cameras the lenses were used on, it's definitely a good choice. The micro FT OM-D has great sensor performance, but very high photo site density and therefor a high resolution. Putting my 600 mm on it, gives me unmatched details of moon and sun and obviously other far away objects as well. I don't care for AF performance through the use of converters because for shooting fast action, I would never consider using any converter. Photography should always be nurturing the inner artist and I agree that using (very) expensive gear will not benefit to that. Using cameras that I can afford within one month's pay, gives me so much more joy in photography. I'm not stingy to pay more for a decent camera, but we all have to ask ourselves what gear serves our destination and the newest will seldom be better for my purposes. I'll leave that to g.a.s., I suppose. Cheers, Martin and thanks for the great video.
Really appreciate your comments on the d800. I own both the d800 and the d7100. Love to shoot landscapes with d800 for the reasons you mentioned , though not in freezing conditions. I often use my D7100 as a walk around camera, as it is a bit lighter to carry around. Also own panisonic lumix d10 for my travel-pocket camera. I however prefer to use bigger, heavier cameras. They feel better in the hand.. Did you consider the D810? Thanks for your insights.
i did have the d810 i didnt like the colour from it though and found i was spending too much time getting them where i like them and sold it.its an excellent camera though otherwise
When I was looking for a high end professional camera to buy my buddy who has been deeply into photography for 55 years gave me one pice of advice besides to buy used, said to research all of them to choose the one that best fit what I needed it for. He said, “date the body, marry the lens.” I took his advise to heart and bought a used D800 and a Nikkor 50mm f-1.8, and a Nikkor 28-300 f-3.5. Perfect! Yep, heavy. Well, it would be cool if they made the D800 in carbon fiber instead of metal but damn, it’s bomb proof and I’m clumsy.
Very informative material, thanks. I came across your channel because of the D600, which arrives in a couple of days. One question about the D800, a reviewer said it had a relatively loud shutter, especially compared to the D600. Obviously I didn’t choose one over the other because of shutter noise :) in fact for what I’m using the camera shutter noise is irrelevant but I’m curious to know, given your huge experience, if that’s what you found as well. Cheers.
after my D300 broked down a year ago. I looked for a D800E but could not find one so I got a D700. Now I saving for a 2nd hand D850.Im into forrest and landscape and long time exposures.
One smart opinion in crowd of attention seekers on YT, old work horses still do proper job, I love to play with Sony mirrorless toys, but for professional jobs I use D610 and consider D800 as second body or even D700 for low light.
Recently stepped into Nikon on the DSLR side. D200 and d300s. Trying to get my lens selection down. Also looking at picking up a d610 or d800 sometime soon. Coming from mirrorless I really like it. It might take a bit getting used to since I don’t have a histogram in live view
Histogram is available in the live view. You need to use some combination of rear keys. Ex. Use the ok button when in liveview mode with the exposure compensation on the top..
I just bought a Nikon d810 in 2022 to replace my Nikon d3200. I don't know what to expect in picture quality but I'm hoping to for a better quality in picture taken. Also, I wonder why the only lenses I see are DX lenses for sale.
Nice one mate, the one we were waiting for lol, good insight and knowledge from experience, as the old saying goes...they don't make them like they used to and think this is definitely true with the D800 range
I did, i wasnt too bothered either way and found a nice d800. for Canon most of my portraits are on a mix of 50mm 1.8/1.2 85mm 1.8 and 24-70 2.8 mk1 and a little bit of 24-105
@@MartinCastein That's good to know. I'm thinking of adding a D800 to go along with my 5D. I just use adapted Takumars; 85/1/8 and a 55/2. I love that combination.
Hello, just about to go to Iceland with a D610 and was considering buying a D810 as an upgrade and keeping the D610 as a back up. Do you think I’ll find the D810 v heavy and v different to use? I love my D610 but was thinking I might need a few more pixels to make bigger prints. Going to take a 16-35, a 24-70 and a 70-300. (As advised by the tour)
Lens choice is good. I’d say only get the d810 if you can definitely afford it and want it. It is a better camera for landscape overall. You would benefit from the exposure preview in live view too.
@@MartinCastein hey! Thanks for the reply! I’m worried about not having a back up body…I’m away 10 days and will be bouncing around in a truck I guess! I have the xt-1 and a bunch of lenses but felt I needed the full frame for landscape…never really done landscape before…can find a D810 for around £500..
Thank you, well if it’s not going to cause you financial issues get the d810 rather than having two different systems around. I bet you will have an amazing trip.
My Nikon fullframe dslr's can be a bit too large and too heavy when I do street photography. Therefore I added the Fuji system, the package like the xt3 and a 23mm prime is really more manageable . And it is pleasant that I can switch between both systems.
Makes sense, the improvements in the latest cameras for landscape photography are marginal at best. Any reason in particular for going for the D800 over an APS-C like the D7200, would it be more the build quality, MP, or something else?
For landscapes you want the best resolution, dynamic range, and iso performance which you’re going to get with a full frame over an aps-c but the main reason for most would be wide angle lenses
The D800 for me just felt like the natural step after owning the D600 for so long, im also very familiar with the full frame lenses and general nikon full frame setup.
I sold my D800 in 2018 then I regretted it. After a while, I got a D810... but you're right! The colors aren't the same. Currently waiting for "my new from 2012 D800" to arrive!
If you put the D800 in your bag, and have the DX D5100 next to it, you are pretty much unstoppable. Then put your money into really good lenses. That's experience talking.
Hi Martin. I'm thinking of selling all my Canon gear to upgrade to a Nikon D800 or D810. I'm mainly do astrophotography and landscapes. Would the 36MP sensor be to much for astro, as I've heard high megaPixel cameras don't allow as much light in the photon wells of the sensor? Brilliant real talk content by the way 💯
Martin I have one question that is relevant on this video! I've seen you have videos on D800 and on D810... and I know that the D810 is considered like a refined version of D800, but I don't know, because from what I've seen from photos (espesially on sunsets) I think I like more the colours of the D800. Ofcourse that may depends also to the photographer (his eye, his aesthetic, his skills, and to what kind of edit did he done to his files). What is your reallistic opinion, from your experience, on both of these models? And again, I am sorry, maybe the hole question is false... Because I have this Wonderfull camera D700 that you mentioned me and it's brilliant!!! But in some occasions that I want to photograph I night sky full of stars in a landscape type of photography or the Iris of the eye (I've bought a macro lens for that), there and only there, I see that I need more detail for that... So... Is D800 really good for that? Or should I go for a D610 perhaps (!)... (I really love the rendering of D600 and I think it could be perfect brother for the D700, but is D610 capable enouph for these types of photography)? D3s? D750? You know... They are all at the same price right now when you look for used bodies... so what camera body should you suggest for me when the extra detail matters? Plzzz save me!!!
I prefer the d800 to the d810 for colour like you say, I think you should get the d800 overall as the d610 is probably a bit basic in some ways although I really like it but you will be safe with the d800
@@MartinCastein Yes! I think that too! But the rendering of the colours is way better on D600/D610... I can see that on any photo... not just from your photos, but if someone checks on sites like the Explorecams, where people uploads images from all Nikon, Canon, ect. cameras in the world, then the rendering tells the truth about the mighty D600/610!!! I've compaired hundreds of photos from these two cameras and it is something like 65-70% real good photos on D610 and only 30-35% on D800. I think I don't like very much the rendering from D800 when it comes to skin tones... I don't understand why, but the result is so clinical that, you feel that, it's never gonna give you an artistic look like D700 or D610. And also in a forest photography, where there is much information to capture, when I see images they are never very pleasing, they should be, but they are nor... it feels like it is not a solid image, but maybe something like little tiny dots have build and image in a way that the image looks frustrated and you are really trying to see what is there... I don't know, am I right?? Have you seen/notised these stuff too?? And, in the end, is there any Camera that can much the Rendering of the colours(!) with good dynamic range, and a resonable detail (maybe I think 24mp)?? Or there is no choise that can much these stuff? I really don't know who else to ask about these stuff Martin... Thank you for all your help!!
@@johnnathan2149 I have noticed this stuff haha this is why I used the d600 for my wedding photography career. I have a video about it on my channel somewhere. The 24mp is more than enough the only thing you have to keep in mind is that the screen at the back has no exposure preview in live view so you just get an auto exposure. It never bothered me really. I have a video also called something like Don’t miss out on this Nikon camera. That’s about the d600 as well.
@@MartinCastein So if we want a camera that can much together a good rendering, and also a more detailed image (than d700), and also have some more dynamic range, and low light capabilities....... then the answer is D600, yes?? I' seen also D750... but I feel that (D750) suffers at reds and greens? Or it is in my imagination? Maybe it hasn't a so colourfull palette or maybe just cannot render so well as D610... I don't know...... But from D610 I've seen really beautiful skies full of stars and also beautiful rendering, even beautiful photos from macro photograpfy that I believe with the right lenses I can capture even the details from the Iris (eyes) that I want! It seems that D600/610 is a camera for everything...!! That is my feeling...
I ordered a D800 Friday, for $500 I couldn’t pass it up. I’m a Canon guy. I had a D600 for a weekend but didn’t like it. The only Nikons I own are a D1, a D90, and a Fuji S5 Pro which is pretty much a D200. The only lenses I have so far are the 35mm 1.8 DX, 17-55 2.8 DX, and 70-200 2.8G IF ED VR yada yada. I’ll probably pick up the 24-70 2.8 non VR soon. I also ordered a D500 so I should be playing with the D800 and D500 before the week is up.
Its certainly a bit different and the d800 youll notice the weight of it for sure but its a very good camera, havent used the d500 but everyone i know that has used one speaks highly of it too.
ultimately probably the d800, the d750 tilt screen is really nice to have though. you wont really go wrong with either but the d750 has weird colours that can add to editing time.
Hi Martin I'm really enjoying your videos your no nonsense approach, practical working knowledge and really good delivery is a great mix. I would appreciate your view on gear. I am a rejuvenated hobbiest old guy! I have the D300 and D700 which I have lenses I can mix and match. Nifty fifties for Dx and Fx. Tokina DX 12- 28 f4. And a Tamron 35-150 f2.8 -4. I am really happy with lenses. I was put off your 24-120 by indifferent reviews and soft at 120. The Tamron is great. Living In Cumbria I shoot landscape but to be honest ultimate resolution is not my mantra. BUT I am yearning to try and buy a D800 or 810. Would my lenses get an appreciable upgrade or downgrade in performance with the higher resolution. To be honest I am happy with best quality Jpegs and I would play with cropping fx, dx and crop modes to reduce Raw file sizes. Any pragmatic advice would be much appreciated. Interestingly you didn't opt for the quiet and the less clunky vibrational shutter of the D 810. Cheers
Thanks for the video only just found your channel, seems you are using the same camera’s as myself not counting my film cameras I have the Nikon D700,D3 and D800E, was looking to go to mirror less but happy with what I have. Lenses I use with these digital cameras are primes 16,20,24,28 and 50mm, but really mainly us my 24-70mm and 70-200mm, yes have more but they are us for wild life photography, now looking I have to many cameras and lenses, but do like the way that Nikon from using my f5 or the D camera’s they are built very similar so it’s not a transition from one to the other. Have checked your other videos so looking forward to see you using the D800, thanks again cheers from the land of Oz 🇦🇺.
Yes it is Martin, also the camera’s like D3 and D700 were used by lots of pro wedding photographers and they took amazing photos then and the still do now, so you don’t always have to have the latest cameras to get amazing photos, cheers Mate.
I am not great photographer but I have money and love photography. So i Had many cameras. Even Nikon Z8 😊 I sold everything because I realised it is not about the camera 🙈 I like the work of Steve Mccury, and he used a D810 once upon a time and the image were world class. I really wonder why few years later that same camera is not good anymore. Maybe if 🤔😂 it is not about the camera 🤭 I will buy a Nikon D800 and 24-70 f/2.8 and used that until it dies 😊
I think the important thing is finding something you actually like shooting with, whatever it is, the you will enjoy the process. Realistically all cameras are good enough.
Every budding photographer should be paying attention to THIS youtube review. This is reality, not hyperbole or shilling that you see mostly in written/video reviews online. As a pro photographer who also reviews cameras online, I can fully endorse this video to photographers who want to hear some truth for a change. Keep it up Martin, we need more of "us" out there, and maybe one day camera companies will start to listen as well. GREAT JOB.
Liked/subbed/notified as well.
Thank you so much Carl, that’s really appreciated 🙏
@@MartinCastein I agree with Carl that Martin has hit the nail on the head with this video, regardless of what gear you use. As a professional photographer and filmmaker (shooting a wide range of subjects across 💯 countries and all climates), even in 2023, I still mainly rely on the Nikon superb D800 plus the old but legendary AF-D (bombproof) range of lenses, and a Panasonic GH3 system with.
Second that
Thanks for this Carl. 😊
Yes, Anyone can learn something from Martin. And EVERYBODY can learn something from Photography, as NOONE knows it all. There is ‘something’ about Photography that seems to bring out the snobbery and presumed expertise in some? Just read some of the online forums. Photography should be about enjoying and learning and encouraging others in our shared craft. It would make for better times. Please be kind. Thank You
"You are the photographer. The cameras are the tools. You are transferring your skills through the different cameras" These words should be repeated on any YT photography channel. I have been using cooking as an analogy to photography... there are many ways to interpret a recipe or create a meal; kitchenware are only the tools. Thanks for your input; I am getting to know and appreciate my D800... which I also bought used.
Thanks for that Edgar!
The D800 was the first camera of any brand with 13 stops of DR and it took years for other camera brands do catch up. Most cameras now have gotten to about the same DR but Sony and R Canons to get the extended DR use non-defeatable raw noise reduction, and Canon uses it at low and high ISO with only a narrow range where is is not applied.
I never understood the focus of photography is on bodies and the constant excitement about new models and constantly updating models. If someone is getting better images it is more likely due to more experience of the photographer or honing their style more. Replacing bodies with every release is a poor use of funds. For me, as a studio and location portrait shooter, plus location ballet, opera, and fine art shooter, far more effective use of funds is in lighting and modifiers.
I have the D800 I got in that first week of release. later when I needed two bodies, I added the D850 and then a Z6. Most of my work is on the Z6. It is strange when hobbyists check out my gear on a location shoot, they always comment about my choice of camera for the session, citing later models as if I am handicapped for using a lowly Z6 or D800., as if they could tell the difference between an image shot with any camera from the last 15 years.
Someone with a limited budget is much better off with a rugged 5-10 yo camera and invest in workshops or lighting or professional models or MAU, lights, for portrait shooters, or a lighter tripod if a landscape shooter
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What is MAU?
I am now a GFX user, but I still have my D800 and currently have the battery on recharge as I plan on using it in a few days. I genuinly miss using that camera. I was going through some old photos and actually realised that I took some really strong shots with it. You don't realise how much you miss something until you don't use it anymore. I love the GFX, but I miss the speed, simplicity and OVF of that thing. Pure enjoyment using that DSLR.
Hi Dan, but you can use both, you dont have to be a GFX user etc you can just be a photographer with more than one system, thats fine too🙂
I sold my D800 about a year ago and almost instantly regretted it. In terms of colour, dynamic range and resolution there are few other cameras that can match it for the price if any, the images can be simply stunning straight out of camera. After kicking myself for a year and trying other cameras and systems I have just bought another one along with the superb Tokina 100mm F2.8 macro. Fantastic camera. Cheers John Pouw NZ
good for you, i think its an excellent camera and really unless you need crazy high iso not much is beating it in any meaningful way
Pls how is the focus
@@Bladderfootball The D800 focuses well, not exceptional by today's standards but more than sufficient. Generally in landscapes and macro I manually focus anyway but I never felt the AF on the D800 was bad at all for portraits etc.
@@johnpouw3352 ok. Thanks want to get it for studio photography
I haven’t upgraded my D800 since I got it back in 2012. It still continues to produce amazing images for me :) The only other camera purchase I have made since then are old film cameras and prime lenses. I _recently_ picked up a Fuji X100V for an everyday / travel camera, when I don’t want to lug the old beast around.
Re: durability, you’ll have a hard time breaking the D800. That thing has been all around the world with me, from the dusty, hot Australian Outback to the freezing Icelandic shores. I’ve dropped it on rocks, it’s blown over on tripods, it’s been rained on, slushed on, mudded on… you name it. The camera is unstoppable.
Thanks Milton thats great to hear, thats the kind of conditions i want it for too and i can well believe it will live up to expectations its built to the highest standards quite evidently.
I've gotten my snowshoes tangled up in branches and landed on my D800 more times than I'd like to admit, had my tripod blown over. Think keeps on clicking, and I think I've taken more damage and aged more than it has. When I added my D850 the resolution difference wasn't exactly noticeable when printed.
And while I really enjoyed my X100V, I sold it (for more than I purchased it for) last year, and upgraded to a Zf... and MAN.. _that_ camera is awesome. The D800 has been relegated to scanning film for me, but I can't bring myself to part with it!@@BorealASMR
@MiltonGeorges I've seen how sharp the Z mount glass is, and I seriously considered switching, but decided the bodies I have are going to be with me until they die.
I love this video, finally someone that says what needs to be said. BRAVO. I mean that quite seriously. The whole time I was listening I was shaking my head in agreement. I soot with the 850 and wouldn't give it up for anything. I do want an 800 or 810 for backup. So again thanks this was a breath of fresh air.
I let my 800e go a few years ago and get pangs of regret now and again. Lately I’ve been futzing with my d700 and it’s made me realize that albeit my Z system cameras are nice, sometimes only a dslr will do. A simple uncluttered viewfinder with no focus tracking or face and eye detection boxes darting around is a nice and welcomed break. The new tech is incredible but after a while I’m worn down and the camera has become yet another device I have to interact with.
I know how you feel , I sold my D810 a while back and though I have a Z6II that I love using , I miss the bulletproof feel of the D810 .
Yes i identify with this 100%, sums it all up really well in fact.
While not a fulltime photographer solely (I own a marketing agency with a photo studio) I only shoot with a D810 (primary) and a D800 (back-up). The range dynamics are incredible, but so it the enormous files, making them perfect for close crop without image quality loss. Indoor shots using HDR is amazing, as is my macro work (floral and bugs). And no other camera short of medium or large format compares with the headshots and portraits the D810/800 provides.
Thanks for sharing this John!
@@MartinCastein No, thank you. It's a compelling and interesting video.
I have a D800 and D850, both used for landscape and northern lights photography. The dynamic range and image quality is fantastic on both bodies. To anyone in the megapixel race, 36mp is absolutely enough you'll never see that resolution on a screen, and it will print large beautifully. Being able to easily locate controls through gloves in the dark is essential for northern lights, which is the majority of my work, and both bodies offer that.
TH-cam needs more content like yours! Cameras are simply tools with strengths and weaknesses but we are the ones using them for our own creative ends. If there is a better tool for a specific job then it shouldn’t matter what the brand name is. I absolutely love my Canon 5d classic for portraits but it may not be what I would pick for architecture for example and it doesn’t even do video so of course I would need a different tool for that
Just bought a second-hand D800 with 52k clicks as an upgrade from my D600 which was on its last legs, which was in itself an upgrade from a D7100. I don't need all of the modern bells and whistles as I only shoot landscapes or take photos of old buildings. The D800 is all that I need going forward, and I am happy with my purchase. Prior to this I was using a Fuji X-T2 which I still love to bits, but I'm going to have the D800 as my mainstay. Thanks for a great video, really enjoyed hearing your thoughts.
Thanks Kevin!
Got my d800 in 2013. Still have it and still use it. D800 was the first camera where resolution simply no longer matters. One thing that it did for me is it gave new life to old lenses. On D90 i could see a bunch of flaws of old lenses like 50mm f/1.4 AIs, but on D800 due to its dynamic range and resolution these "flaws" were transformed into character. Due to pixel pitch you definitely need to slow down with d800 as compared to d90; or d800 will clearly show your poor technique. This is actually a benefit. As you slow down and start to respect the camera, you will pay more attention to composition and will get better pictures.
No builder would be criticised for using Makita tools for one job and DeWalt for another. They use the tool best suited for the job in hand. I don't know when, where or how we ended up here, but I'm glad you addressed the point. Cameras are tools, no matter their brand. We should use them as such. Thanks for the video. Great channel! Reinaldo from UK.
Got my D600 last year after having used my first DSLR, a D3300, for 9 years, and I'm absolutely loving it. For me it lacks nothing that's really important compared to modern mirrorless cameras costing 10x as much. I also like the diverse MF & AF lens options for Nikon DSLRs, esp. the D600 with the built-in focus motor. But the only reason I can afford such a nice camera system is because most others have either upgraded to or only ever considered much newer and much more expensive gear, so I'm never going to complain about the hype around the latest models.
I just bought one I have been using canon for years but I still have Nikon cameras and
lenses, I never seem to have the heart to get rid of my older cameras. I still have my 5d 1&2 but I saw this with a low-ish 22k shutter count and very nice condition without the notorious grip peeling, I have a few FX lenses from my 35mm Nikon F series which I previously used with my D300 including a 50mm so I have a few starter lenses. I have only tool about 200 shots and I'm just getting used to the feel and trying different setting to see what I can achieve, I'm not a landscape guy mostly industrial archaeology and trains/vehicles if I'm not up to tramping about. I love your channel and it's great to see and hear your unbiased well thought out advice and insights, keep up the good work.
Thank you Ceri, nice to have great feedback like this!
I just bought a D810 for landscapes and will follow your exploration with the model.
Thank you.
Wow, been taking photos for fun for 20 years.. love your ethos.. my new favorite photo channel
When I bought my first camera, it was a tie between Nikon and Canon and until today I think either one would be excellent. In the end, I bought the Nikon. However, being an amateur, I do not want to buy glass for several systems and therefore I stick with Nikon. I could not agree more on the gear aspect. I just bought a D7200 from 2014 because it has practically the same controls then my D750. The D7200 is a great piece of gear I bought for 350 Euros. So I can give it to my kids without getting a panic attack when I see them handling the camera. Dynamic Range, Low light are great. I could not be happier. And I get the glass for what? 35% of the price of lenses for mirrorless bodies.
The D800 or D810 with their professional controls are cool pieces of kit. A little heavy for an amateur. But maybe one day I buy one for dedicated projects.
It is not true, that gear does not matter. But the best gear is worthless in the wrong hands. In order to really benefit from the latest gimmicks often you need very special requirements (for example bird photography). For my use even my D750 or D7200 are more than enough.
I subscribed your channel
I have 4 x Nikon D cameras,. 2 x D800, D800e and D810. I also use Fujifilm XT and GFX systems... I love them all for what I do.
Wow! Thanks for a great video with great advice, Martin. Nice and easy to listen to.
Nikon D800E is an amazing camera, I’m thankful to have one.
My gear for landscape images include the Nikon D850, D750, and Pentax K1. For portrait work I will grab the Nikon D700 or D780. For general photos or really anything I will grab either of the afore mentioned or the Nikon D7100, D500, or maybe the Olympus EM5-II, or EM1-III. Yes, I have too many and that doesn't begin to allow for my film cameras. I love photography and have g.a.s.
hahahahaa its ok to have g.a.s i had it for a long time. its one thing to enjoy the gear, thats fine but i think when people think it makes them a better photographer that it becomes a problem, which clearly isnt the case for you.
You are absolutely right. I have a D850 but indeed I do not take it with me in to harsh environments, rainy weather etc.... Therefore I also have a couple of D800 cameras. And the D800 is still delivering. A 36mp fullframe camera and they cost around 400 bucks now.
I appreciate your practical (mature adult) presentation.
Ive come across a D800e for 749 with a Nikon grip and just over 100,000 shutter shots. I stopped doing pro work, sold all my gear and switched to smaller, tiny cameras 5yrs ago. Just switched to cell phone, as someone challenged me to do so for 4 months. Well, that time is up and I feel the need to purchase a great used D800e and 35mm, and 85mm.
well done that will be a really great setup!
Martin I loved this video, loved you honesty and it refreshing to not be watching another you tuber expert !!i have just moved back to Nikon from a Sony A7 mk111 was not feeling it with that camera, its very good but the size of it and the fact it has so much that it can do, took all the fun out of it for me. The thing you said about about breaking or loosing it, also worried me too, plus I enjoyed the process of taking pictures with a DSLR.
I owned and loved the Nikon D7200 crop frame, I have just brought a cheap 15000 actuation D800 ! not received it yet but with my Nikon 24-70 f2.8 and my 70-200 Sigma f2.8 I think its going to be great. Anyway i have subscribed love the video thanks
I'm hasselblad x2d user, and it's a great camera, nothing can compare with images capured with hassi..
That said, i own D800 for years now; it's not like hassi but it's not that far away. I still use it with joy, it's my r'n'r camera. In fact, my personal favorite pics i didn't took with hasselblad, it was with Nikon D800!
I had to smile when you mentioned your dynamic workflow with Canon cameras. I had to do precisely the same. You end up with at least 4 files instead of one, plus the Canon noise starts showing up even in the highlights when you run more than 5 exposures (sunrise landscape with forest, for example) - banding… that’s why I ultimately and permanently switched to Nikon (D810) and will upgrade to a D850 at best. It was quite a plunge, replacing expensive studio equipment with Nikon versions, but it was SO worth it. No Canon even remotely scratched the (Sony) sensor performance of the D810 even a couple of years after its release.
I keep my Canons for macros and as backups, but my heart was stolen by Nikon 😅
Martin, Enjoyed your discussion. I bought a D800e last summer after killing my D7200. Wanted to move to a full frame and found a great deal on the 800e with low shutter count. I have been very impressed with the camera so far and other than lacking a few bells and whistles, it is a great tool. Image quality is fantastic. I do mainly Landscape and Nature photos as well, But am starting to branch out to some other fields and just yesterday shot a western horse show and had unbelievable results. Great camera and goes to show you, sometimes older technology is still good! Will watch for more of your content and how you get on the your 800. Many thanks and keep snapping!
Thank for this Alan!
Great video with a great point! - I shoot as a pure hobbyphotographer and i'm no Joe McNally nor Morten Hilmer. I have a D4s for action/wildlife and a D800 for slower things as portrait/landscape and i love'em both! - Next step will prolly be some mirrorless, but right now the limits are my creative skills - not the cameras. Cheers from Sweden!
Brilliant videos! Great advice. Subscribed.
Always great to hear a working professional’s opinion. Thank you
Thank you!
I have been using D500s and D7500s for several years. When I began using a Lensbaby Burnside 3500, an Sol 45, and later, a Helios 58mm f2,I desired a full frame camera body. I found a D800
E which was fairly affordable. I love it; it is now my most used camera (except for avian photography and infrared), and I love my D800. I had bought the E model, which is what what was available; I have never used the original D800, so I don't know what the difference would be. I use several FX lenses, a 14mm, 24 f2.8, 35mm f2, 50mm f1.8, my Lensbabies and Helios. I own a 70-200 f2.8 which I use on all my cameras and a 200-500 f5.6 which so far I have used only on my D500. The D800 is fairly hefty, but comfortable enough to carry with a short prime lens. All my cameras are fairly robust, but the D800 may be the toughest of them all. I would love to have a printed manual for the D800, but so far, I am doing well by using the menus.
I have two d300,,d7000,,d90,,d40,,,Im looking out for a d800,,,I just love Nikon DSLR,, the menu system a doddle to navigate and program your own settings , one of my d300 is for taking landscapes and believe me I've dropped this beast loads of times and this thing just keeps going and going, absolute tank of a camera,, just subbed your channel I admire your honesty the camera is just a tool, I'm currently on the look out for a d800, believe it to be an absolute tank as well.
The D800 should be the definition of tank in the dictionary.
Just came across this vid, really impressive and informative. I'm an enthusiastic amateur, but don't specialise in any one genre. I shoot anything, anywhere. No flash photography, no photoshop, no coloured filters, Jpeg fine. Luckily enough this hobby/interest have got me to work many music festivals, national and international artists, worked alongside the Royal British Legion, fun community days in parks and a few weddings, sporting events and football/rugby tournaments also. Just as happy plodding along down the local canal with a drone and camera firing away of anything interesting. Just got back from Crete, and did cover the Chania rock festival also, but so hot, sweaty, dry, sunny, the total opposite to South Wales lol. The breeze on the beach sweeping up sand also was a killer to the cameras so took out a Go Pro 12 with waterproof case to save my main cameras. I run 3x D7100, 10.5 fisheye 2.8, 35/50 1.8 primes, 17-50 Sigma 2.8, and a new Sigma 70-200 2.8 also. I can get 1,300 shots off one 32g card, and running 2x slots, also close to 900 pics off one battery, so love that aspect off my setup. I been looking at some used equipment going forward, nervously as I am so familiar with my current setup. Looked at Canon, and even Sony mirrorless, but heard mirrorless has issues in low light, and jucy battery use. The use of mirrorless and one lens abroad would be ideal, and much lighter, but see the lenses are still expensive, even used, so hopefully the go pro and cam phone will do the job with travel. I'm nervously looking to get 2x used bodies in the D800 with very low shutter count. I will wait a few more years or so to go full mirrorless. Do you think the D800 will be a good move in the right direction along the way? Or are their any other options to consider with my current setup? Look forward to this reply, all the best, Simon.
Well thought out, thank you.
Hey buddy, banging video again mate. Totally agree with your comments regarding Professional photographers and their approach and outlook on the equipment used. Also the D800. I only sold mine to make way for the Canon RP last summer. I last used it, last July on a trip to Ilfracombe combined with a 24-70mm lens, and it proved to be the best choice of kit to take (Heavy, but I'm used to carrying the girlfriends bags around too, so not really and issue LOL).
The lay out, the build and obvious image quality and fabulous dynamic range make it just about as perfect as you could ever want. The battery life was also stella, and with bit of messing around and practice, it's also a formidable tool for video work.
That mentioned dynamic range, has helped me many times when I used it with wedding work I've done, especially when I've experienced sudden, unexpected exposure shifts, due to the fast paced environment I'm in, and the end results have always been impressive, with many a highlight and shadow rescued!
I've almost always used it with a flash at the weddings, and found the balance of the sensor size, dynamic range, and flash exposure to be extremely well balanced (Something Nikon do well) and would also say, I've found I've had presentable results, even at higher ISO's when pushed, and with careful post editing, I've been able to push and pull the exposure and been astonished with the outcome. It may not appear to be the best choice for weddings, but I would say to anyone, this is not only a landscape monster, but also a fabulous tool for weddings too, especially for the price they are now!
I currently still use the D810, and I can honestly say, I'm keeping that, until it fails. It has slightly improved grip and few subtle tweaks (Although not quite as solidly built as the D800 I've noticed) but it has the same benefits of the D800, including the output.
Really looking forward to seeing your content produced with it, when you take it out into the wild, oh, and not forgetting your X-Pro 1 video of course :)
Take it easy mate.
All the best
Gav.J
I read that as boring not banging hahahhaha, Glad you agree, thanks for writing in this level of detail as this helps me too. It confirms my own views too, yeah that x pro 1 video..... *whistles looking at feet*
Hey M.C. I’m not locked into camera brands, I just wish at least one manufacturer would make a camera to suit my requirements. Lots of near hits but no coconut.
1.Full frame
2.Tilting screen
3.IBIS
4.24megapixel sensor,
5.DSLR (not mirrorless) with 100% optical viewfinder made from glass prisms,
6.1:1 and 5:4 as shot aspect ratios
7. Live view
8.Canon DSLR ergonomics
Anyhoo, I’ve just purchased (May 15th 2024) the nicest sample I’ve seen so far of a Nikon D800, all the original bits and boxed with battery pack and very low mileage. It arrives tomorrow. 😎
when I buy used (which is always), i always buy a camera body which is already scuffed up a bit with cosmetic damage. 1. Its much cheaper and has no impact on either the images or the functionality, and 2. I'm not ever worried about having to baby it because it already has some marks.
I also like the D600 (I have a D600 with upgraded shutter and a D610). I have big hands, so I find all the Nikon cameras are more comfortable with the battery grip. I like the ability to crop with the D800e. I also agree that brand loyalty is a bit silly. It's like getting angry about whether an Estwing or Craftsman hammer is better. I also use Canon gear and the 5D Mark II corresponds more or less to the D610 and the 5DS to the D800e. Both camera systems have excellent glass available for any sort of need. When people do fall in love with a brand, it's not so bad, though, because passion to use a tool can be inspirational. And if you really enjoy the process I think it helps to produce better work.
Out of the camera, I generally like the Canon colors better. But for mid-grade lenses, the Nikon cameras have an edge. For instance, the Nikkor 180mm f/2.8D IF-ED can be purchased used for the cost of a cheap kit lens. The Canon stuff stops abruptly around 1989, since EF glass is needed. But Nikon lenses go back a couple decades more to the F mount AI glass. Does it sound too old to be useful? "The Afghan Girl" was photographed with a Nikkor 105mm f2.5 AI lens.
Can't say that I like Canon or Nikon better. I tend to use Canon more, but I just recently bought the D800e, so it may even out.
Good comment Dann, very balanced and good point about it helping if people love what they are using, thats very true.
My D610 died when it slid off a loose arca swiss plate. (devastation !)
I dont have the money to change to mirrorless. Ideally I would love a D850, but since retirement I really cant justify the price of one of those. So I settled on a D800. Used price is very keen. Not got one yet, but I have seen one with an incredibly low shutter count, and a great price.
I am just looking at the, pro's and cons at the moment. That's why i am here.
I am buying now. One reason it is not as heavy as the D700! The weights of the Nikons are not as bad as they look though, because they are so easy to hold. I am looking forward to your videos with it.
170 grams lighter and tones of colour and hues inferior to the d700!
@@ΝικοςΖωχιος-χ8π Not for me, haven't used the D700 since I got it
Wow,, a real honest video for a change,,you tell it how it is the fact no matter what the brand it's simply a tool to do a job, good on you sir.
I still have my D800 with Grip. Love it was made in Japan back then. I use it here and there. I use it with the EL18 Battery converter. I also have my D1 that I purchased in 1999 my first DSLR that I use as a paper weight now. It is amazing how much heavier the D1 was than my D4s.
I think I want the grip too really, would be nice I think.
@@MartinCastein It makes the camera big and heavy however that never really bothered me. You keep a battery in the camera just as a reserve because you have to remove the grip to swap it out. But instead of having the two EN-EL -15 in the grip you get the converter door and run one EN-EL18a like a D3 D4 D5 D6.
Just bought a D800e again after regretting selling my original. One of the best cameras I've ever used.
Well done Adam, why! Some cameras are just special and we want to keep them with us. You can even move on later to newer cameras but still keep this camera.
I have been doing photography since the mid 70’s. I am not a professional but I do freelance work on vintage racing events.
I always thought most folks doing photography have different cameras and brands.
At this time I have Canon, Nikon , Rollie’s, Fujifilm, Polaroids and other brands.
I also shot a lot of film both 35mm and medium format.
I own several vintage lenses.
So I enjoy using different cameras all the time.
I had a Pentax 645 and sold it so now I regret that.
I have fun using and shooting all of them.
I got a d810 in 2014 to add to my d700 for more resolution photography and iso 64 in landscape photography.
My d700 broke down in 2016, but the d810 is still my main camera when i need amazing image quality. Still impresses me… and to be honest, is better than i am…
Just received mine in the mail 11k shutter actuations. Upgraded from a d300 to this and am definitely enjoying the fullframe experience so far.
Great to hear!
A really affordable landscape kit could be a D800 and a few pre-owned wide-angle Nikkor lenses. I was using my 24mm f2.8 ai-s lens on my D700. I get really good images with this set up. I take pictures of the sunrise on the beach(Florida) Later on I bought a used AF 20mm f2.8D. These optics are really good. Shoot with these lenses at f8 and use a tripod and expect outstanding results. I think the next step for me is a D800...(i'm keeping my D700 forever though)
i am saving for this body. Of course good glass is needed as well.
Okay cards on the table, I’m a Nikon fan. I have 5 Nikons, a FA and FM2n from the film era, a D810 I picked up in 2022 nicely priced, a D5 I got this year 2023 which has hardly been run in only 1500 shots taken and without a mark on it this was a bargain for what I paid, I also have a Z7 which I have had from new and it’s a great little camera. Why Nikon, well I can use a lens built in the 1970’s on every single camera so for me it’s about buying into a system that will last a lifetime. Over the years I have owned, Pentax, Canon (film and digital), Olympus, Bronica, Fuji, and Minolta, with the exception of the Minolta all have been excellent. For me it’s just about getting out and taking pictures, my images will probably never win any prestigious competitions but they have been in newspapers and magazines which I am proud of.
It doesn’t matter what you own just get out there and enjoy using these marvels to capture those fleeting moments in time. You don’t need the latest and greatest to take wonderful images, a good camera from yesterday took great pictures then as it will today and will continue to do tomorrow.
A great channel, thanks for doing these videos.
Thank you Martin, always interested to read what others are using and about their journey, congrats on having the best name too😎
When you said "my admittedly very small channel" I had to check your subscriber count. It's so strange to me that your channel isn't larger. I guess, on a subconscious level, because I agree with so much of what you say and enjoy your photos/style so much, I just assume that everyone feels the same way that I do and thus your channel "must" be one of the big ones.
I, too, own multiple camera brands and styles. I've owned the D800 and was happy with it. I never understood why so many people complained about it.
Ahhh my channel is growing gradually, its small but will get there I hope. I started posting regularly on here about a year ago so im happy enough with the progress so far, its just going to take time. I think the D800 is just about the best value for money camera out there now.
Hai, I've been using a Fujifilm xt1 with the 18-55 exclusively for two years now. It is an old, cheap setup and it has never let me down. I often thought about upgrading, but always continued using it. It got me through many jobs and in different environments and the image quality is still really pleasing. Always amazed what treasure old gear can be when you engage with it. Love to hear you talk about these topics btw :)
Hi Jona, thanks yes i had that 18-55 i nearly went for that with the x pro 1 you know. that was my second choice and im sure id have been very happy with that too. would be lighter thats for sure. Thanks for sharing.
Love the sensor and image output of the X-T1. The only thing that drives me nuts is the buttons are all flush to the body. Someone recommended a video about using Sugru mouldable glue to beef up the buttons son I’m going to try that.
@@LyndonPatrickSmith oh I remember people saying that from a while ago I think on an older model too it should work though
I totally agree because I have one and though I bracket, I pick the best shots to proccese and don't need to blend (as with my D7200 also )
I use it for landscapes too and on a tripod. I've the 24-120 f4 also but lately have used the 20mm f1.8 prime mostly
Finally as an ameteur, I would feel the financial pain if it was damaged
oh i think anyone would feel it if it broke but its less of a loss than say a z7ii. i should have made that clear maybe.
I just like Martin’s style of presenting & general approach - it’s the absolute antithesis of ‘The Fro’ & Tony Northrup frenetic attention-seeking style. Btw I got myself 5D Classic to try out last year, but it just felt too alien - after using Nikon all these years & having come to rely on multiple focus points.
Thanks so much, its great to get feedback its still amazing me that people are actually watching my videos!
I just watched 2 minutes of a cringy Northrup video yesterday where there is a bunch of self-absorbed shots of them leaving their McMansion house to start up their convertible BMW, driving around their fancy neighborhood... all to talk about shooting with small form factor mirrorless cameras. I was thinking, "What in the hell is all this other fluff in the video about??" - TH-camr influencer types are really something.. lol
Thank you Martin, I just got faced with this issue this very week. All my photographer friends have Canon gear, and sadly I do not know anyone who had Nikon. :( Myself, always had Canon...
This week on Flickr I ran into shots made by D810 with the Tamron 35mm SP F1.4 lens. They are absolutely fantastic, the "color science", how the pictures look - despite high resolution still relaxed and not fake sharp. It reminded me of the continuation of the 5D classic -> 6D line, as if it was the next step in that evolutionary line - towards higher resolution but maintaining the same look. I know, I remember you said Flickr is full of bad photos... (I know, I posted many bad photos myslef there!! :_) ... yet, I found it useful to find examples taken by different cameras / lenses.
Now I find myself dreaming about that Tamron / Nikon combo. With other Nikon lenses the colors are not in Canon's league, but combo! It is absolutely fabulous. And I have always loved the way Nikons work so well for B&W. Your videos were the ones that steered e back to looking at DSLRs, and not focus solely on the new mirrorless. DSLRs are such treasures, and I find them to have so much more human portrayal of the world....
As for cheap and expensive cameras... Well, I'm used to handle any tool with reasonable accuracy and carefully, is it either expensive or cheap. Is it my camera, or my clothes, or bags - doesn't matter, there are qualities we have since early childhood, they're our own distinctive features. Not bad, not good - just like color of our eyes or hair, or the timbre of one's voice.
I bought a D810 in 2021 for exactly the reasons that you outline in your video.
Interesting discussion about professional photographers vs. non-pro TH-camrs. My experience is that too many professional photographers on TH-cam simply don’t have likable personalities. They tend to come across as snobby, condescending, cynical and all-knowing people. One gets the impression a lot of pro photographers don’t really like photography all that much. I find that sad. I’m semi-retired, but currently work part time as a driver. Technically that makes me a professional driver. I get paid to drive, but I also enjoy driving.
Another belting video Martin. I have a canon 5D classic and now a D800e. I'm looking forward to your D800 landscape videos. Honest videos with from the coal face experience. 👍👍
Thanks! Going to be some 5d landscape videos too!
I had two D800E's that were simply terrific cameras, the IQ was second to none. I sold them a few years ago as I was planning a move to Sony mirrorless and I needed the money so I sold my Nikon gear -- if I didn't need the money I'd still have the D800E's.
Thanks for sharing that !
Did the same thing myself - D800 for portraits/products and replaced my old D3S with a D5 for concerts 🤷♂️
Your Common Sense advice as an experienced, professional photographer, is very helpful and interesting. Thank You. Good Luck with this tremendous DSLR.
Thanks once again Dezmond! Hope you are well.
Great message sir!!! Thank you for this
I couldn't have put it better myself. I love my D800
I would never pair a Nikkor 24-120mm with a Nikon D800 to shoot landscapes. As you said, it's not a particularly sharp lens and the Nikon D800 is very picky when it comes to optics. In my opinion, fixed lenses are much more efficient, even if they are awkward to carry and mount every time. If you have the desire and the time, in my videos you will be able to see shots taken only with fixed lenses. For everything else I fully agree with you. Good boy. Congratulations and thanks for sharing.👍👍👍
thats fair, i like the 24-120 though and never really found it a problem but yes its losing out on image quality that is true!
@@MartinCastein The 24-120mm is a very versatile lens especially for travel and excursions. I never understood why Nikon didn't make it more powerful in sharpness. Maybe to better sell the 24-70mm? Friendliness.
Alway great lessons of photography, thanks Martin. I found a great approach of HDRwith my Pentax K1 MkII, done in camera. Great results with a 36 MEGAPIXEL sensor.
Glad at least one real photographer sees a camera as a tool to get a certain result. That is what it is.
I am not a professional photographer, but I'm dedicated and passionate about photography for decades.
The brands of camera bodies I use? Olympus (OM, OM-D and MFT), Canon (5D "mark1"), Nikon...
Why? Because every camera body has different properties that serves different goals.
It's obvious, isn't it?
Indeed the Nikon D600 was my choice for high ISO photos and high dynamic range, but - as you mentioned - it also serves very well for landscapes because of the sensor performance. That was a big plus when I went up hill to take a multi-shot panorama without the aid of a tripod. I was not planning on doing landscapes that day, but it was the occasion that took me there at the moment. If I had to stack these for HDR also, that would definitely have gone wrong. In stead I now have a panorama that's 6 ft wide with amazing resolution and dynamic range.
Up until now, no camera of the 600-series delivers such sensor output for that price and that's the main reason it is used so much. Although I have considered buying the 800, the resulting file size would also require 50% more storage and processing time while for me 24 mp is the ultimate joy to use in most circumstances. I guess Nikon realizes that too, looking at their range of bodies in that resolution.
That said, I might add that the software also makes a big difference and their use is comparable to the bodies we use. Some are really optimized for high ISO and when I was shooting jet fighters in very heavy rain, I had to choose ISO3200 which turned out to be no problem for printing out 3 ft wide after using PhotoLab with it's incomparable noise reduction features.
However, I've recently acquired the D750 with practically similar performance and price range than the D600, but it is a level up in usefulness.
The Canon 5D is a jewel for my legacy lenses from the 70's because of its flange distance. It's kind of slow but compared to the cameras the lenses were used on, it's definitely a good choice.
The micro FT OM-D has great sensor performance, but very high photo site density and therefor a high resolution. Putting my 600 mm on it, gives me unmatched details of moon and sun and obviously other far away objects as well.
I don't care for AF performance through the use of converters because for shooting fast action, I would never consider using any converter.
Photography should always be nurturing the inner artist and I agree that using (very) expensive gear will not benefit to that. Using cameras that I can afford within one month's pay, gives me so much more joy in photography. I'm not stingy to pay more for a decent camera, but we all have to ask ourselves what gear serves our destination and the newest will seldom be better for my purposes. I'll leave that to g.a.s., I suppose.
Cheers, Martin and thanks for the great video.
Really appreciate your comments on the d800. I own both the d800 and the d7100. Love to shoot landscapes with d800 for the reasons you mentioned , though not in freezing conditions. I often use my D7100 as a walk around camera, as it is a bit lighter to carry around. Also own panisonic lumix d10 for my travel-pocket camera. I however prefer to use bigger, heavier cameras. They feel better in the hand.. Did you consider the D810? Thanks for your insights.
i did have the d810 i didnt like the colour from it though and found i was spending too much time getting them where i like them and sold it.its an excellent camera though otherwise
Is there a difference between the D800 and D810 in terms of specifications and image quality, especially in low light and at high ISO?
When I was looking for a high end professional camera to buy my buddy who has been deeply into photography for 55 years gave me one pice of advice besides to buy used, said to research all of them to choose the one that best fit what I needed it for. He said, “date the body, marry the lens.” I took his advise to heart and bought a used D800 and a Nikkor 50mm f-1.8, and a Nikkor 28-300 f-3.5. Perfect! Yep, heavy. Well, it would be cool if they made the D800 in carbon fiber instead of metal but damn, it’s bomb proof and I’m clumsy.
👍👍👍👍👍
D800 +sigma 40 1.4 art = out of this world
Very informative material, thanks. I came across your channel because of the D600, which arrives in a couple of days. One question about the D800, a reviewer said it had a relatively loud shutter, especially compared to the D600. Obviously I didn’t choose one over the other because of shutter noise :) in fact for what I’m using the camera shutter noise is irrelevant but I’m curious to know, given your huge experience, if that’s what you found as well. Cheers.
D600 is quieter and less shutter shock as well
@@MartinCastein thank you
after my D300 broked down a year ago. I looked for a D800E but could not find one so I got a D700. Now I saving for a 2nd hand D850.Im into forrest and landscape and long time exposures.
D850 is probably a better more update camera it should be excellent!
One smart opinion in crowd of attention seekers on YT, old work horses still do proper job, I love to play with Sony mirrorless toys, but for professional jobs I use D610 and consider D800 as second body or even D700 for low light.
Love this straightforward approach, no bullshit unlike all the shills on youtube. Bravo
Older Video but I just bought one recently for $200 and I'm very happy with it.
GREAT VIDEO AS USUAL
Recently stepped into Nikon on the DSLR side. D200 and d300s. Trying to get my lens selection down. Also looking at picking up a d610 or d800 sometime soon. Coming from mirrorless I really like it. It might take a bit getting used to since I don’t have a histogram in live view
Histogram is available in the live view. You need to use some combination of rear keys. Ex. Use the ok button when in liveview mode with the exposure compensation on the top..
I just bought a Nikon d810 in 2022 to replace my Nikon d3200. I don't know what to expect in picture quality but I'm hoping to for a better quality in picture taken. Also, I wonder why the only lenses I see are DX lenses for sale.
Nice one mate, the one we were waiting for lol, good insight and knowledge from experience, as the old saying goes...they don't make them like they used to and think this is definitely true with the D800 range
Thanks buddy! Will do a proper review at some stage too but I cant really do that for a bit yet till ive used it more
Did you consider the D800e since it has no anti-aliasing filter? I’m curious what lens you use for portraits on your Canon 5d?
I did, i wasnt too bothered either way and found a nice d800. for Canon most of my portraits are on a mix of 50mm 1.8/1.2 85mm 1.8 and 24-70 2.8 mk1 and a little bit of 24-105
@@MartinCastein That's good to know. I'm thinking of adding a D800 to go along with my 5D. I just use adapted Takumars; 85/1/8 and a 55/2. I love that combination.
Still using and own D7000
Hello, just about to go to Iceland with a D610 and was considering buying a D810 as an upgrade and keeping the D610 as a back up. Do you think I’ll find the D810 v heavy and v different to use? I love my D610 but was thinking I might need a few more pixels to make bigger prints. Going to take a 16-35, a 24-70 and a 70-300. (As advised by the tour)
Lens choice is good. I’d say only get the d810 if you can definitely afford it and want it. It is a better camera for landscape overall. You would benefit from the exposure preview in live view too.
@@MartinCastein hey! Thanks for the reply! I’m worried about not having a back up body…I’m away 10 days and will be bouncing around in a truck I guess! I have the xt-1 and a bunch of lenses but felt I needed the full frame for landscape…never really done landscape before…can find a D810 for around £500..
Oh and love your videos, just discovered them and like the honesty and seriously useful information!
Thank you, well if it’s not going to cause you financial issues get the d810 rather than having two different systems around. I bet you will have an amazing trip.
Great video. Got a D800 coming. What's the best memory cards to use ?
Sandisk extreme pro
Hey Martin! Im really digging your youtube videos on photography. Well done! Can you explain me why D800 over D800E?
More of them around don’t care about low pass stuff 🤣
I shoot Nikon and Fujifilm and that is just fine. Was thinking about Canon in my early years but for some reason I never bought it.
Thats a good mix really!
My Nikon fullframe dslr's can be a bit too large and too heavy when I do street photography. Therefore I added the Fuji system, the package like the xt3 and a 23mm prime is really more manageable . And it is pleasant that I can switch between both systems.
Makes sense, the improvements in the latest cameras for landscape photography are marginal at best. Any reason in particular for going for the D800 over an APS-C like the D7200, would it be more the build quality, MP, or something else?
For landscapes you want the best resolution, dynamic range, and iso performance which you’re going to get with a full frame over an aps-c but the main reason for most would be wide angle lenses
The D800 for me just felt like the natural step after owning the D600 for so long, im also very familiar with the full frame lenses and general nikon full frame setup.
I prefer it over D810, much more natural colors, not too sharp. High iso is also better in my experience.
I sold my D800 in 2018 then I regretted it. After a while, I got a D810... but you're right! The colors aren't the same. Currently waiting for "my new from 2012 D800" to arrive!
If you put the D800 in your bag, and have the DX D5100 next to it, you are pretty much unstoppable. Then put your money into really good lenses. That's experience talking.
Totally true
Great video!
Thanks!
Hi Martin. I'm thinking of selling all my Canon gear to upgrade to a Nikon D800 or D810.
I'm mainly do astrophotography and landscapes. Would the 36MP sensor be to much for astro, as I've heard high megaPixel cameras don't allow as much light in the photon wells of the sensor?
Brilliant real talk content by the way 💯
Martin I have one question that is relevant on this video! I've seen you have videos on D800 and on D810... and I know that the D810 is considered like a refined version of D800, but I don't know, because from what I've seen from photos (espesially on sunsets) I think I like more the colours of the D800. Ofcourse that may depends also to the photographer (his eye, his aesthetic, his skills, and to what kind of edit did he done to his files). What is your reallistic opinion, from your experience, on both of these models?
And again, I am sorry, maybe the hole question is false... Because I have this Wonderfull camera D700 that you mentioned me and it's brilliant!!! But in some occasions that I want to photograph I night sky full of stars in a landscape type of photography or the Iris of the eye (I've bought a macro lens for that), there and only there, I see that I need more detail for that... So... Is D800 really good for that? Or should I go for a D610 perhaps (!)... (I really love the rendering of D600 and I think it could be perfect brother for the D700, but is D610 capable enouph for these types of photography)? D3s? D750? You know... They are all at the same price right now when you look for used bodies... so what camera body should you suggest for me when the extra detail matters? Plzzz save me!!!
I prefer the d800 to the d810 for colour like you say, I think you should get the d800 overall as the d610 is probably a bit basic in some ways although I really like it but you will be safe with the d800
Sorry late reply just saw this
@@MartinCastein Yes! I think that too! But the rendering of the colours is way better on D600/D610... I can see that on any photo... not just from your photos, but if someone checks on sites like the Explorecams, where people uploads images from all Nikon, Canon, ect. cameras in the world, then the rendering tells the truth about the mighty D600/610!!! I've compaired hundreds of photos from these two cameras and it is something like 65-70% real good photos on D610 and only 30-35% on D800. I think I don't like very much the rendering from D800 when it comes to skin tones... I don't understand why, but the result is so clinical that, you feel that, it's never gonna give you an artistic look like D700 or D610.
And also in a forest photography, where there is much information to capture, when I see images they are never very pleasing, they should be, but they are nor... it feels like it is not a solid image, but maybe something like little tiny dots have build and image in a way that the image looks frustrated and you are really trying to see what is there... I don't know, am I right?? Have you seen/notised these stuff too??
And, in the end, is there any Camera that can much the Rendering of the colours(!) with good dynamic range, and a resonable detail (maybe I think 24mp)?? Or there is no choise that can much these stuff?
I really don't know who else to ask about these stuff Martin... Thank you for all your help!!
@@johnnathan2149 I have noticed this stuff haha this is why I used the d600 for my wedding photography career. I have a video about it on my channel somewhere. The 24mp is more than enough the only thing you have to keep in mind is that the screen at the back has no exposure preview in live view so you just get an auto exposure. It never bothered me really. I have a video also called something like Don’t miss out on this Nikon camera. That’s about the d600 as well.
@@MartinCastein So if we want a camera that can much together a good rendering, and also a more detailed image (than d700), and also have some more dynamic range, and low light capabilities....... then the answer is D600, yes??
I' seen also D750... but I feel that (D750) suffers at reds and greens? Or it is in my imagination? Maybe it hasn't a so colourfull palette or maybe just cannot render so well as D610... I don't know......
But from D610 I've seen really beautiful skies full of stars and also beautiful rendering, even beautiful photos from macro photograpfy that I believe with the right lenses I can capture even the details from the Iris (eyes) that I want!
It seems that D600/610 is a camera for everything...!! That is my feeling...
Just found Your channel and boy, are Wee on the same page!
I ordered a D800 Friday, for $500 I couldn’t pass it up. I’m a Canon guy. I had a D600 for a weekend but didn’t like it. The only Nikons I own are a D1, a D90, and a Fuji S5 Pro which is pretty much a D200. The only lenses I have so far are the 35mm 1.8 DX, 17-55 2.8 DX, and 70-200 2.8G IF ED VR yada yada. I’ll probably pick up the 24-70 2.8 non VR soon. I also ordered a D500 so I should be playing with the D800 and D500 before the week is up.
Its certainly a bit different and the d800 youll notice the weight of it for sure but its a very good camera, havent used the d500 but everyone i know that has used one speaks highly of it too.
@@MartinCastein I'm used to shooting with Canon 1D's so I don't mind the weight. I ordered the battery grip for the D800 also.
@@jimdabomb im thinking about getting the grip as well, i want the 50 1.4g i think too.
Do you recommend the D800 or D750 for landscape photography
ultimately probably the d800, the d750 tilt screen is really nice to have though. you wont really go wrong with either but the d750 has weird colours that can add to editing time.
@@MartinCastein d 800 +sigma 40 mm f1,4 for landscape photography 👍👍👍👍
Hi Martin I'm really enjoying your videos your no nonsense approach, practical working knowledge and really good delivery is a great mix. I would appreciate your view on gear. I am a rejuvenated hobbiest old guy! I have the D300 and D700 which I have lenses I can mix and match. Nifty fifties for Dx and Fx. Tokina DX 12- 28 f4. And a Tamron 35-150 f2.8 -4. I am really happy with lenses. I was put off your 24-120 by indifferent reviews and soft at 120. The Tamron is great. Living In Cumbria I shoot landscape but to be honest ultimate resolution is not my mantra. BUT I am yearning to try and buy a D800 or 810. Would my lenses get an appreciable upgrade or downgrade in performance with the higher resolution. To be honest I am happy with best quality Jpegs and I would play with cropping fx, dx and crop modes to reduce Raw file sizes. Any pragmatic advice would be much appreciated. Interestingly you didn't opt for the quiet and the
less clunky vibrational shutter of the D 810. Cheers
Thanks for the video only just found your channel, seems you are using the same camera’s as myself not counting my film cameras I have the Nikon D700,D3 and D800E, was looking to go to mirror less but happy with what I have. Lenses I use with these digital cameras are primes 16,20,24,28 and 50mm, but really mainly us my 24-70mm and 70-200mm, yes have more but they are us for wild life photography, now looking I have to many cameras and lenses, but do like the way that Nikon from using my f5 or the D camera’s they are built very similar so it’s not a transition from one to the other. Have checked your other videos so looking forward to see you using the D800, thanks again cheers from the land of Oz 🇦🇺.
Hi Brendan thanks for your comment its interesting to read other peoples experiences and choices too :)
Yes it is Martin, also the camera’s like D3 and D700 were used by lots of pro wedding photographers and they took amazing photos then and the still do now, so you don’t always have to have the latest cameras to get amazing photos, cheers Mate.
I really like your channel , as you say it as it is .
Thanks Julian
I am not great photographer but I have money and love photography.
So i Had many cameras. Even Nikon Z8 😊
I sold everything because I realised it is not about the camera 🙈
I like the work of Steve Mccury, and he used a D810 once upon a time and the image were world class.
I really wonder why few years later that same camera is not good anymore.
Maybe if 🤔😂 it is not about the camera 🤭
I will buy a Nikon D800 and 24-70 f/2.8 and used that until it dies 😊
I think the important thing is finding something you actually like shooting with, whatever it is, the you will enjoy the process. Realistically all cameras are good enough.