Dusty Baker getting to use his old school style of managing, but only having players given to him by the analytics department seems to be a good balance.
It’s more than just that, there was an article after last years ALCS which gives a great insight to how that balance is maintained for Baker adapting to the times with Analytics while being old school. It’s a good read
The Yankees were playing scared, they had no passion, no HEART. Donaldson was horrendous, he couldn't even get a fly ball to drive in a run. How many did he alone leave on base? IKF is horrible, that error was his fault. I knew in the second half that they were not ready for prime time.
I have been a baseball fan since I was 3, when my parents took me to see the Houston Buffs. Growing up in Texas, I became a diehard Astros fan. Now I live far from Texas, but I remain a true Astros fan. Astros management finally caught up with the Astros players and not even the Yankees could talk their way thru the determination of the Houston Astros.
I saw them in 64 under Colt 45s name in the old stadium. Actually got a ball from a coach headed up to the press box. Saw them in the dome about 30 times between 65 and 69. Huge fan since.
Yankees needed a manager, not a guy who will ride with great talent into the playoffs but a real baseball manager to manage a baseball game. Boone is way over his league.
Can you imagine trying to pull Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemons or Tom Seaver in the same situation that Boone pulled Cole??? NO WAY any of those guys would walk off the mound in game 3 of the ALCS when you're down 2-0. The Mariners did the same thing in the previous series pulling their closer in Game 1; and the Phillies pulled Wheeler in the 6th inning of Game 6 of the World Series. Analytics doesn't measure grit, determination, heart and moxie. If Cole would have stayed with the Astros, he would have a WS ring, and a chance each year to win another one.
It's not analytics, its trust in your farm system producing the next superstar. The astros have only 5 players left from the 2017 season. Most of their replacement came from the farm system. The NYYs like other teams rely on buying up players from other teams. The astros have shown that this no longer works. So keep it up and buy those expensive has been players. The Astros will keep on winning.
I love hearing y'all whining. Guess what? Even without JV and y'all having Judge and Rodon, you still won't get past the Astros! Big money doesn't equal clubhouse chemistry. The Astros players play for one another, not for big contracts. Good luck, losers!
Imagine booing your own player who: 1. breaks the AL all-time HR record in a season; 2. almost wins the batting title; 3 wins league MVP;.....oh, wait.... This is why people can't stand Yankees fans. Entitled, narcissistic, arrogant, condescending and pretension...
Michael Kay is right about taking Cole out. That was a WTF moment for me. Remember when Torre used to come out and look his trusted pitcher right in the eyes? THAT'S what's needed.
Hey guys I know things are tough and we’re on the verge of a humiliating sweep on our home field. So let’s watch some dramatic highlights from the literal worst thing that has ever happened to this team; a choke so historic that it cast a still unhealed psychic wound onto the organization and fanbase. Gee I’m shocked they lost after that pep talk.
I don't think you can judge the Yankee batters performances solely based off their performance against the Astros in the ALCS. The Astros have a rare collection of some of the best pitchers on one team - maybe ever. An anomaly of sorts. But that kind of pitching negates a lot of bat talent at the plate.
Astros fan here, I get what you are saying, but there is still no reason for a mlb team to strike out 50 times in 4 games, or for your mvp to hit less than 200, they just got dominated
10:07 - 10:51 is the entire crux of it all. The Yankees fail to realize that the Rays and other teams *had* to employ these strategies to compete with *them* It makes no sense
Yep. Too bad business shouldnt be mixed with family like this. Thats what is holding them back. Every hire always needs to have a yankee connection and its just shooting themselves in the foot. Its a new era. This team and these players havent won anything theres no connection to the winning history. Stop holding onto the history it means nothing when it comes to this seasons success. The yankee way has become a loser mentality and horribly run organization. This franchise needs a new identity.
@@untetheredmoon6971 the yanks literally have those, obviously not specifically, but judge, Stanton, Cole, Rizzo, we have plenty of superstars, its just not being executed right, which at this point I think every yankee fan agrees, they need a different plan, they have proved over and over that they're not gonna win anything if they continue to just go out there and roll over in the playoffs and make these bizarre moves due to a piece of paper saying a similar scenario worked for someone else previously
I can’t stand the Yankees but I love these guys cause they’re passionate bout their team…. They want answers and accountability… every teams analysts should be this vocal!!!!! Go Astros!!!!🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
Astros fan here. I'm going to help y'all out. STOP TALKING ABOUT JUDGE AND COLE. Talk about everyone else. The Yankees are built like a LeBron constructed basketball team. Problems being that there are nine on the field, not five and two guys aren't going to do as much on a baseball team as they are on a basketball team.
@@michaelkeenan3437 He was killed by a pitch thrown by Carl Mays during a Yankees-Indians game in 1920. It contributed to the abolition of the spitball, new rules on replacing worn-out balls, and by extension the rise of the live-ball era
@@michaelkeenan3437 dude's wife was also pregnant at the time of his death and some thought he was about to retire to work for his father-in-law, so it also has one of those "two days before retirement" things going for it too.
funny how this michael kay guy has amnesia about the Yankees cheating and literally giving the astros the model in which they cheated, it originated from the yankees' club house lmfao.
He even gave credence to the lie about buzzers. Like they don’t know that was made up by a TH-cam Yankees fan who still can’t believe that Altuve beat them. 😅
Every opportunity I get I mention, we learned it from you. The ex Yankee player, name not mentioned intentionally, said your sign stealing is kind of lacking compared the rest of the league. He then showed us what the Yankees were doing. The problem I have is that the cheating wasn't needed. They had the best road record in baseball that year. They were going to win pennant regardless. As a side note, for those thinking Altuve stole MVP from judge, there is evidence that he didn't cheat, and he also had the best batting average on the road in all of baseball that year. Look it up. Judge had homeruns, but his average was just that average. He doesn't run well and had a serious hole in his swing. That hole has been worked on, but Astros are still exploiting it in thr playoffs.
Mets fan here. I almost totally agree with Michael Kay except for the part where he says Aaron Goon makes his own decisions. He definitely does not. The analytics geeks in the office do. I am so tired of analytics crap.
"You can't even make it to the World Series?!" Like its not the second most difficult thing to do in baseball. I'll never understand Yankee fans who have a 99 win season and make it to the alcs (again) and want to fire everybody. The New York Yankees are a top 5 team in the MLB and the fans hate the GM, the coaches, and every player on the roster. Bad teams don't lose in the alcs. Bad teams don't make it there in the first place. Instead of being so pissed off, get excited to run it back next year. I swear Yankee fans are the worst.
Honestly, I think that would have been a good idea had it been any team other than the Yankees who had gotten swept. I think that Yankees motivational coach had good intentions, but just didn't use his head - where he wasn't cognizant of the fact that by utilizing that strategy he was making it seem like the current team was getting scolded for what their 2004 counterparts did.
It's not just the over reliance on analytics it's also poor and inexperienced coaching. It's important to have a solid and experienced manager to assess the field level things and knows how to pivot. This coaching staff is unprepared, undisciplined, and has no clue what they're doing. This is yet another example of Cashman getting too cute.
The problem with analytics in the playoffs is thinking there will be another game. Everyone is thinking play this pitcher instead of the other guy because you might need him for game 6. There is no guarantee you'll have a game 5.
The Yankees were crushed in the mid 2000s for not being analytical...now too much? They are just copying what the Astros do. Gallo, Hicks, Donaldson, etc.. all players performing way below expectations....
Analytics are a tool, not the only tool, and shouldn’t be used where other tools are better used like a coach’s judgement. It’s like hammering a nail with a wrench, it can be done but it’s a time for a better tool. Astros built that team through analytics, and they play like a true team, but Dusty deciding who is best at what time was a difference maker. Analytics + leadership = better team.
I'm all for bashing these losers after that showing. But legit, Don. If there's ANY player on the offense since 2018 that can't be called out for the postseason is Stanton. Yeah, he struggled in the ALCS [who didn't...], but he has BY FAR AND AWAY out performed EVERY. SINGLE. PERSON. Consistently since 2018. 27 Games ; .260/.327/.635- 11HR/24 RBI/ 11BB to 32SO, and GIDP is at 3. He's literally been one of the ONLY people who has actually given any sort of fight to this team in the postseason. Him and Chad Greene are legit the only ones who show up when playoffs roll around. Rest of them are just soft. Plain and simple. If you took those numbers and prorated them to the first 27 games of the MLB Season. People would be chattering about a possible return to MVP.
I saw some good swings out there...I feel like Donaldson is just about to turn a corner, been lining the ball up pretty good recently. IFK is a top 5 shortstop in baseball.
He made this statement then walked it back the next day and for weeks after this. So either he thought better or he got the call from the big guy and said you better stop throwing this team and management under the bus.
I've been so disgusted that I haven't listened to, or watched anything yankee related for the past few days, but it honestly is embarrassing that we all feel the same way, they've just continued to keep trying this strategy, its time for the guys who think they know what's going on in the front office to take a step back, and hire a brilliant manager and end this BS
Attention !!!! Aaron Boone is a super nice guy and that’s the problem …he wants to be liked by everyone ! He creates a laid back consequence free environment that allows players to feel free to drop balls in left then mope against the wall while a runner scores from first !, allows players to celebrate a HR that hits the wall and then gets thrown out at second or held to a long single , allows players to forget there’s only one out then take off on a fly ball out that doubles them off first …..I could go on and on ….The Yankees didn’t get swept because of injuries or talent that’s the reason for the series loss ….the blowing of a 15 game lead in the east as well as the sweep in the ALCS are directly attributable to the manager and he should’ve been FIRED 45 minutes after game 4 loss PERIOD !!! This man was a below average 3rd baseman…that doesn’t qualify you to manage the Yanks !!!! Showalter would’ve won 2 WS if he took over after girardi
If the Yankees Don’t Built A Yankees Team To Beat The Astros, then it’s going to be another failing season. Yankees need to get two great starting pitchers like deGrom and Luis Castillo, if they are available or similar caliber pitchers. They need to bolster their Bullpen and get a great closer and great Short Stop. Yankees need to get 2-3 left handed clutch hitters. Fire 🔥 Cashman what he doing in last 13 year isn’t bringing a championship. Trade Giancarlo Stanton and don’t open the vault for Aaron Judge, let him walk. if he doesn’t accept a 7 year 225 million contract, then he’s not a real Yankee
You know...in addition to the obvious changes that need to be made. Getting rid of Cashman, Boone, changing their approach with constructing a team and the analytics, rebuilding with youth.. there's something else in my mind that needs to change. That damn mission statement of "championship or bust." Look I get it they're the Yankees, most decorated team in sports, more championships than any team in the Big 4 I get all that. But the thing is..to go into every season thinking the World Series is a birthright is foolish. It's not guaranteed anymore like it once was. Majority of their past championships came in a time when there was less teams in the league. Teams are a lot more even now, every team has money, teams rely on analytics. I mean think about how there hasn't been a repeat champion in MLB since the 2000 Yankees. Sure a few teams have won back-to-back pennants (Philly in 2008-'09, Texas in 2010 & 2011, Royals in 2014 & '15, Dodgers in 2017 & 18, Houston these last 2. But no team has repeated as champs in consecutive years since the 2000 Yankees. I'm sorry but they have to change the mission statement. To always say it's "championship or bust" after all these years of failure makes em come across as liars to the fans. Now let's be honest, 13 years is rather tame in comparison to the 55 years the Giants went until 2010, or the 84 years for Boston in 2004 and 107 for the Cubs. Let's not pretend that mere 13 years comes anywhere close to that. Not by a long shot. But you can't keep going into every season, promoting a championship and not even make it to the World Series let alone win the damn thing. So drop the mission statement. Yea I know it sounds fraudulent to even say but it needs to happen. They could have a historic regular season, amazing things could happen and because their own damn mission statement if they don't win a championship at the end of it then you can no longer enjoy whatever good things happened in the regular season. And ngl, personally if the Yankees really did win a championship every year? It would make the sport pretty boring This season was better than those in the recent past. First place all year long, dominant first half, Judge surpasses Maris for the AL record. Finally win rhe division instead of settling for a wild card. Those were great things. Beats the hell out of the season the Red Sox had. Or the Mets or the Nationals and A's and Pirates etc.
And sometimes with the championship or bust statement comes awful decisions that stranglehold the team for multiple years, overpaying the wrong people to try and win. Id rather this team clean house and blow it up and play and develop all the young guys then another season of this. Just because you dont make the playoffs doesnt mean u are a losing organization. Chemistry is built when developing together and it can be rewarding watch young players improve themselves and the team and eventually get to the playoffs and try to win it all and thats when u can add to them to help. Also Just bcuz u make the playoffs most years doesnt mean you are doing it the right way or should be considered a top organization. (Anybody with this payroll should be able to make the playoffs if thats the only goal). Especially when out of all those appearances you cant make it to the final series. But the yankees cant seem to grasp that, probably because they dont care enough as long as they make money and clearly dont understand how to mesh the two (they can with the resources they have) and let young talent play, make mistakes, and develop along other top players at the major league level. The last 13 years teams are running circles around them even tho they make the playoffs alot. Just look at the astros, redsox, even rays, jeez even the phillies made it back to the world series before them. Just look around all sports the top organizations arent always in the playoffs. Its just when they are they have a good shot to win bcuz they have people in charge who know how to manage winning teams and get not as good teams into good teams relatively quickly. Cashman thinks its a good sign to never fire coaches midseason and have managers stay around a long time. Well Not if it leads to where they are now. He just makes arbitrary rules to make himself think he better than he is. Most teams, winning or losing, dont have the same head coach for all that long. Just look at the phillies this year again. Cashman has so many flaws its unbelievable how he still has his job. They need to let go of the past winning history when it comes to the future team successes. Like u said this is a whole new era, whole different leagues, most of that history came when things were so much different. They need their own new identity and personality and winning culture.
Judge only passed Maris because he cheated and used Goldilocks balls. The MLB also helped him by making sure if the pitch wasn’t thrown right down the middle it was called a ball. Judge is a bum and proves it every postseason.
The people who come up with the analytics keep saying that the numbers can't be changed. That means you put a guy who is a good match, and let them go. If you think you can make a change because of the situational opportunities that arise, you will only hurt the numbers of both pitchers. Because you cannot manipulate the system that way. That's the part nobody understands, because this is a subject beyond many people's ability to understand, like corporate types. This is science, and while it suggests a lot, it says absolutely nothing. The danger in playing with science comes when half smart people think their smarter than they actually are...
looking back on this yeah the Yankees have been run poorly in big spots you're in a must win situation. and you take out your best pitcher for a guy that's good against the bottom order of a lineup and what happens you give up 3 runs makes no sense. you stick with your ace no matter what give Cole the opportunity to finish in that spot.
Micheal Kay is a hypocrite. When the fans were skeptical about Boone and criticizing his decisions Kay was the first to defend him and call all the fans spoiled losers.
Fire Boone, he is clueless, Let him take Donaldson, Chapman, IKF, and Locastro with him, they are all overpaid. We made a trade to get rid of Sanchez last year, gave up Gio and got two clowns that can't hit, this team is regressing. If Judge is allowed to leave this team, there goes a large portion of the fan base, he is the one true Yankee on the team.
WOW, these guys need to relax. With so many good teams around how do they expect the Yankees to be in the WS every year? They are not the only good team. Now I can see how these Yankee players play under a lot of pressure from the owners, the media and the fans because, since they get paid a lot of money they should be in the WS by default, but it doesn't work that way. On the other hand the Astros were playing loose. They play so much under pressure that they don't even laugh (but Rizzo), it seems like they are not enjoying the game.
I mean if they're paying out the ass for huge talent they should have at least made it to the world series in the last 10 years. With the payroll they have they should win just about every year that's why they're upset.
Mike get off your phone while your cohosts are talking and making their points. Bad form to talk for 4-5 mins straight and then when it's their turn to chime in, you break out your phone and sit silently with no acknowledgement of what their saying
Dusty Baker getting to use his old school style of managing, but only having players given to him by the analytics department seems to be a good balance.
And that's why the Asstros for the 6th time are in the World Series.
The same for bob Thomson he was part of the Yankees under joe giradi
@@elicielcajigas1977 I see what you did there with the backhanded compliment/pretend misspelling of the team and I heartily approve.
It’s more than just that, there was an article after last years ALCS which gives a great insight to how that balance is maintained for Baker adapting to the times with Analytics while being old school. It’s a good read
@@qshot9848 I'd love to read that. Can you provide a link?
Yankees: "Don't let us win one game."
Astros: "Ok."
2023, and I'm still loving these tears, crying and venting! I'm enjoying my Championship Trophy, a cup of coffee, and laughing my @$$ off!
YEP!!!
Schadenfreude never gets old!
👏👏👏
Jeff Luhnow deserves some credit for Astros current dynasty. Valdez and Garcia were signed for almost next to nothing
HOW BOUT THEM STROS
No one rants like New Yorkers. Classic.
Yankees cheated in all of those years. Beltran brought his camera system from Yankee Stadium to Houston.
Needed this
The Yankees were playing scared, they had no passion, no HEART. Donaldson was horrendous, he couldn't even get a fly ball to drive in a run. How many did he alone leave on base? IKF is horrible, that error was his fault. I knew in the second half that they were not ready for prime time.
Judge was the worst. Once again he crumbles in the playoffs and proves he is worthless.
Donaldson???? Where was judge.... Stanton.....
If you need motivation down 0-3, you're in the wrong profession.
It happened often in hockey
I have been a baseball fan since I was 3, when my parents took me to see the Houston Buffs. Growing up in Texas, I became a diehard Astros fan. Now I live far from Texas, but I remain a true Astros fan. Astros management finally caught up with the Astros players and not even the Yankees could talk their way thru the determination of the Houston Astros.
I saw them in 64 under Colt 45s name in the old stadium. Actually got a ball from a coach headed up to the press box. Saw them in the dome about 30 times between 65 and 69. Huge fan since.
Yankees needed a manager, not a guy who will ride with great talent into the playoffs but a real baseball manager to manage a baseball game. Boone is way over his league.
B Cashman is the problem not Boone.
Can you imagine trying to pull Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemons or Tom Seaver in the same situation that Boone pulled Cole??? NO WAY any of those guys would walk off the mound in game 3 of the ALCS when you're down 2-0. The Mariners did the same thing in the previous series pulling their closer in Game 1; and the Phillies pulled Wheeler in the 6th inning of Game 6 of the World Series. Analytics doesn't measure grit, determination, heart and moxie. If Cole would have stayed with the Astros, he would have a WS ring, and a chance each year to win another one.
That was cathartic. So glad they're not letting the "you're unbelievable" quote go.
January 23 still watching it
April 25th still watching
It's not analytics, its trust in your farm system producing the next superstar. The astros have only 5 players left from the 2017 season. Most of their replacement came from the farm system.
The NYYs like other teams rely on buying up players from other teams. The astros have shown that this no longer works. So keep it up and buy those expensive has been players. The Astros will keep on winning.
18:11 THEY ARE GETTING WORSE!! Boy was he right about that one!
I love hearing y'all whining. Guess what? Even without JV and y'all having Judge and Rodon, you still won't get past the Astros! Big money doesn't equal clubhouse chemistry. The Astros players play for one another, not for big contracts. Good luck, losers!
Aaron judge gets in a slump y’all boo him .
Altuve gets in a rut and we cheer and run out on the field to give him a hug. We’re not the same.
Imagine booing your own player who: 1. breaks the AL all-time HR record in a season; 2. almost wins the batting title; 3 wins league MVP;.....oh, wait....
This is why people can't stand Yankees fans. Entitled, narcissistic, arrogant, condescending and pretension...
@@chopkongSo Yankee fans shouldn’t hold Judge to a higher standard when the games matter the most? You sound like a loser
nothing brings me joy than seeing Yankee fans cry
Kay is making the mistake of thinking that Hal gives a shit. They made a lot of money. His bottom line is protected. All is right in his eyes.
Michael Kay is right about taking Cole out. That was a WTF moment for me. Remember when Torre used to come out and look his trusted pitcher right in the eyes? THAT'S what's needed.
Boone could’ve put loziaga
As an Astros fan... Taking Cole out was the same when Hinch took out Grenkie in game 7 for Harris just to give up a hr...
2017 yankees got caught early that's why they stopped using technology, now yankees is using the excuse that they got involved in the 1st place😂
Hey guys I know things are tough and we’re on the verge of a humiliating sweep on our home field. So let’s watch some dramatic highlights from the literal worst thing that has ever happened to this team; a choke so historic that it cast a still unhealed psychic wound onto the organization and fanbase. Gee I’m shocked they lost after that pep talk.
The Red Sox video couldn't be any worse than the locker room speech Gerrit "Kermit the Frog" Cole gave earlier in the season.
I just now watched this. How does Aaron Boone still have a job?????
Love how peter is SO CHECKED OUT
I don't think you can judge the Yankee batters performances solely based off their performance against the Astros in the ALCS. The Astros have a rare collection of some of the best pitchers on one team - maybe ever. An anomaly of sorts. But that kind of pitching negates a lot of bat talent at the plate.
Astros fan here, I get what you are saying, but there is still no reason for a mlb team to strike out 50 times in 4 games, or for your mvp to hit less than 200, they just got dominated
Then the Yankees batters are only good against mediocre-bad pitching and horrible against good-great pitching. Yanks are overrated
Ahhhh I feed on Yankee tears
10:07 - 10:51 is the entire crux of it all. The Yankees fail to realize that the Rays and other teams *had* to employ these strategies to compete with *them*
It makes no sense
Over Hal’s dead body. Cashman is literally family to him. And Boone is cashmans best friend. They’re both coming back
Yep. Too bad business shouldnt be mixed with family like this. Thats what is holding them back. Every hire always needs to have a yankee connection and its just shooting themselves in the foot. Its a new era. This team and these players havent won anything theres no connection to the winning history. Stop holding onto the history it means nothing when it comes to this seasons success. The yankee way has become a loser mentality and horribly run organization. This franchise needs a new identity.
Well, the Astros will continue to embarrass him and his team.
SWEET!!!
Nothing more cringe how they kept running Carpenter out there and Cashman thinking their bats were good enough that they didn’t need Andújar
Didn't need Andujar? Of all people? 😂They need Harper, Machado and much, much more. How you got Andujar from this baffles me lmao.
@@untetheredmoon6971 because Cashman thought the offense was so good they let Andujar walk for nothing
@@untetheredmoon6971 the yanks literally have those, obviously not specifically, but judge, Stanton, Cole, Rizzo, we have plenty of superstars, its just not being executed right, which at this point I think every yankee fan agrees, they need a different plan, they have proved over and over that they're not gonna win anything if they continue to just go out there and roll over in the playoffs and make these bizarre moves due to a piece of paper saying a similar scenario worked for someone else previously
Its important to remember, analytics/moneyball came around to save owners money, not to build a better baseball product or to win games
I expect the Yankees will do what they usually do during the off-season: buy a few more mediocre has-been free agents.
And they did… 😆
11 days later after the Cashman press conference Kay went into defense mode
Key is the biggest fraud in ny.
Yep he did.
the fact the yankee players need a motivational tape to win the pennant speaks volumes. this isnt the yankee organization I grew up to admire.
I can’t stand the Yankees but I love these guys cause they’re passionate bout their team…. They want answers and accountability… every teams analysts should be this vocal!!!!! Go Astros!!!!🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
Does someone have napkins to dry my phone from all these tears?!😂😂😂😂
Testify. I feel like I’m in Church!! 🤚🏽🤚🏽🤚🏽 #AstrosNation
It’s baffling the degree to which Houston owns this team, as if the Yankees are the cp3/griffin clippers to the Astros GS warriors
First time I hear about this story I was thinking the Mets because you never thought 💭 it will be the Yankees like come on now😂😂.
Astros fan here. I'm going to help y'all out. STOP TALKING ABOUT JUDGE AND COLE. Talk about everyone else. The Yankees are built like a LeBron constructed basketball team. Problems being that there are nine on the field, not five and two guys aren't going to do as much on a baseball team as they are on a basketball team.
The difference is that Lebron has won multiple championships in the last 10 years. 😂
“The darkest moment on field in Yankees history” - Ray Chapman’s family would like a word Michael
Do you mine if I ask who ray chapman is?
@@michaelkeenan3437 He was killed by a pitch thrown by Carl Mays during a Yankees-Indians game in 1920. It contributed to the abolition of the spitball, new rules on replacing worn-out balls, and by extension the rise of the live-ball era
@@thedeadcellist Wow that’s a pretty dark time in Yankee history..Thanks Sean for the contex!
@@michaelkeenan3437 dude's wife was also pregnant at the time of his death and some thought he was about to retire to work for his father-in-law, so it also has one of those "two days before retirement" things going for it too.
funny how this michael kay guy has amnesia about the Yankees cheating and literally giving the astros the model in which they cheated, it originated from the yankees' club house lmfao.
He even gave credence to the lie about buzzers. Like they don’t know that was made up by a TH-cam Yankees fan who still can’t believe that Altuve beat them. 😅
Every opportunity I get I mention, we learned it from you. The ex Yankee player, name not mentioned intentionally, said your sign stealing is kind of lacking compared the rest of the league. He then showed us what the Yankees were doing. The problem I have is that the cheating wasn't needed. They had the best road record in baseball that year. They were going to win pennant regardless. As a side note, for those thinking Altuve stole MVP from judge, there is evidence that he didn't cheat, and he also had the best batting average on the road in all of baseball that year. Look it up. Judge had homeruns, but his average was just that average. He doesn't run well and had a serious hole in his swing. That hole has been worked on, but Astros are still exploiting it in thr playoffs.
Micheal kay angry is hilarious!!
Mets fan here. I almost totally agree with Michael Kay except for the part where he says Aaron Goon makes his own decisions.
He definitely does not. The analytics geeks in the office do. I am so tired of analytics crap.
I absolutely agree, Aaron Goon does not make his own. It comes from the front office and the analytics nerds. We’re tired of this crap.
"You can't even make it to the World Series?!" Like its not the second most difficult thing to do in baseball. I'll never understand Yankee fans who have a 99 win season and make it to the alcs (again) and want to fire everybody. The New York Yankees are a top 5 team in the MLB and the fans hate the GM, the coaches, and every player on the roster. Bad teams don't lose in the alcs. Bad teams don't make it there in the first place. Instead of being so pissed off, get excited to run it back next year. I swear Yankee fans are the worst.
Not all of them, but a lot of them are the most entitled, most disgusting people on the planet! Truly appalling pieces of amphibian $%&@!!
Yeah if they were fans of the Guardians like me they'd probably kill themselves by now. 😂
Ha.ha.Ha..Ha. Tells you the intelligence level of Yankees Mental coaches and their Manager. That's really funny and Red Sox Nation LOVES IT!
Yes indeed. As a Sox fan it feels great watching the continued decline and collapse of the McDonald's of MLB. RIP NYY
He killed their analytics department here just to defend them when Cashman said they didn't need to change up anything
the 2004 story is DISGUSTING. Yankees should be embarrassed beyond belief
Yeah pretty embarrassing and pathetic
how is that REAL lol
@@untetheredmoon6971 yeah really CRINGE worthy
@@untetheredmoon6971 I'm still waiting for someone to say Psyche!
@@Scotto6977 yeah people need to lose jobs over that
Yankees really did this at 20:50
Also, they had EIGHT different lineups in the post season. How are players supposed to get any feel for the lineup. It matters!
Nothing beats the night of or day after Yankees season ends ,
If you are not using your best players in a must win, what are you saving them for?
Analytics should be a tool for the manager to use IF they want, not the be all to end all. FIRE the Yankees analytic department. Send them to Siberia!
And we’re in August and we’re screwed still and they funny part is the Astros are in town rn😭😭 hopefully we win again tonight lol
Heads need to roll for the '04 Red Sox thing. That makes me physically ill
Honestly, I think that would have been a good idea had it been any team other than the Yankees who had gotten swept. I think that Yankees motivational coach had good intentions, but just didn't use his head - where he wasn't cognizant of the fact that by utilizing that strategy he was making it seem like the current team was getting scolded for what their 2004 counterparts did.
I'm laughing at that. Talk about pathetic and desperate.
It’s 2024 and the Yankees still haven’t made any changes, they still hold true to their moronic analytics!
It's not just the over reliance on analytics it's also poor and inexperienced coaching. It's important to have a solid and experienced manager to assess the field level things and knows how to pivot. This coaching staff is unprepared, undisciplined, and has no clue what they're doing. This is yet another example of Cashman getting too cute.
The problem with analytics in the playoffs is thinking there will be another game. Everyone is thinking play this pitcher instead of the other guy because you might need him for game 6. There is no guarantee you'll have a game 5.
Fire boone! Oh wait they extended his contract what a bummer . Next year this will be the same argument.
look at the order...altuve lead off...pena, then 3,54 ,5 hittters...we have no lea off, judge batting second..stupid
As long as Genius Cashman is the Yankee GM, the Yankees will not see a World Series.
Yep!
guys, guys ... with the BEST coaching ever ...Astros still win this series. Stop looking for excuses other than the players.
The Yankees were crushed in the mid 2000s for not being analytical...now too much? They are just copying what the Astros do. Gallo, Hicks, Donaldson, etc.. all players performing way below expectations....
Aaron Judge 350 million contract and how many wins did he steer the Yanks to? Cole 300$ and how many wins did he pitch the Yanks to? 0
Analytics are a tool, not the only tool, and shouldn’t be used where other tools are better used like a coach’s judgement.
It’s like hammering a nail with a wrench, it can be done but it’s a time for a better tool.
Astros built that team through analytics, and they play like a true team, but Dusty deciding who is best at what time was a difference maker. Analytics + leadership = better team.
how come. Don is calm. He should be happy
I'm all for bashing these losers after that showing. But legit, Don. If there's ANY player on the offense since 2018 that can't be called out for the postseason is Stanton. Yeah, he struggled in the ALCS [who didn't...], but he has BY FAR AND AWAY out performed EVERY. SINGLE. PERSON. Consistently since 2018.
27 Games ; .260/.327/.635- 11HR/24 RBI/ 11BB to 32SO, and GIDP is at 3. He's literally been one of the ONLY people who has actually given any sort of fight to this team in the postseason. Him and Chad Greene are legit the only ones who show up when playoffs roll around. Rest of them are just soft. Plain and simple. If you took those numbers and prorated them to the first 27 games of the MLB Season. People would be chattering about a possible return to MVP.
I saw some good swings out there...I feel like Donaldson is just about to turn a corner, been lining the ball up pretty good recently. IFK is a top 5 shortstop in baseball.
How bad IKF was at SS was shown in the first inning of Perazas first start when he made a slick play IKF couldn't have made if he knew it was coming.
Boone is a goof..... likable but not a manager.
He made this statement then walked it back the next day and for weeks after this. So either he thought better or he got the call from the big guy and said you better stop throwing this team and management under the bus.
Why haven't Cashman and Boone been fired yet.
And still they keeping Aaron Boone 🤮 Michael Kay should be manager
I've been so disgusted that I haven't listened to, or watched anything yankee related for the past few days, but it honestly is embarrassing that we all feel the same way, they've just continued to keep trying this strategy, its time for the guys who think they know what's going on in the front office to take a step back, and hire a brilliant manager and end this BS
Attention !!!! Aaron Boone is a super nice guy and that’s the problem …he wants to be liked by everyone ! He creates a laid back consequence free environment that allows players to feel free to drop balls in left then mope against the wall while a runner scores from first !, allows players to celebrate a HR that hits the wall and then gets thrown out at second or held to a long single , allows players to forget there’s only one out then take off on a fly ball out that doubles them off first …..I could go on and on ….The Yankees didn’t get swept because of injuries or talent that’s the reason for the series loss ….the blowing of a 15 game lead in the east as well as the sweep in the ALCS are directly attributable to the manager and he should’ve been FIRED 45 minutes after game 4 loss PERIOD !!! This man was a below average 3rd baseman…that doesn’t qualify you to manage the Yanks !!!! Showalter would’ve won 2 WS if he took over after girardi
If the Yankees Don’t Built A Yankees Team To Beat The Astros, then it’s going to be another failing season. Yankees need to get two great starting pitchers like deGrom and Luis Castillo, if they are available or similar caliber pitchers. They need to bolster their Bullpen and get a great closer and great Short Stop. Yankees need to get 2-3 left handed clutch hitters. Fire 🔥 Cashman what he doing in last 13 year isn’t bringing a championship. Trade Giancarlo Stanton and don’t open the vault for Aaron Judge, let him walk. if he doesn’t accept a 7 year 225 million contract, then he’s not a real Yankee
Astros are simply a better team…not terribly complicated
He was ticked off enough to leave Houston when we didn't play him in 2019.
You know...in addition to the obvious changes that need to be made. Getting rid of Cashman, Boone, changing their approach with constructing a team and the analytics, rebuilding with youth.. there's something else in my mind that needs to change. That damn mission statement of "championship or bust." Look I get it they're the Yankees, most decorated team in sports, more championships than any team in the Big 4 I get all that. But the thing is..to go into every season thinking the World Series is a birthright is foolish. It's not guaranteed anymore like it once was. Majority of their past championships came in a time when there was less teams in the league. Teams are a lot more even now, every team has money, teams rely on analytics. I mean think about how there hasn't been a repeat champion in MLB since the 2000 Yankees. Sure a few teams have won back-to-back pennants (Philly in 2008-'09, Texas in 2010 & 2011, Royals in 2014 & '15, Dodgers in 2017 & 18, Houston these last 2. But no team has repeated as champs in consecutive years since the 2000 Yankees. I'm sorry but they have to change the mission statement. To always say it's "championship or bust" after all these years of failure makes em come across as liars to the fans. Now let's be honest, 13 years is rather tame in comparison to the 55 years the Giants went until 2010, or the 84 years for Boston in 2004 and 107 for the Cubs. Let's not pretend that mere 13 years comes anywhere close to that. Not by a long shot.
But you can't keep going into every season, promoting a championship and not even make it to the World Series let alone win the damn thing. So drop the mission statement. Yea I know it sounds fraudulent to even say but it needs to happen. They could have a historic regular season, amazing things could happen and because their own damn mission statement if they don't win a championship at the end of it then you can no longer enjoy whatever good things happened in the regular season. And ngl, personally if the Yankees really did win a championship every year? It would make the sport pretty boring
This season was better than those in the recent past. First place all year long, dominant first half, Judge surpasses Maris for the AL record. Finally win rhe division instead of settling for a wild card. Those were great things. Beats the hell out of the season the Red Sox had. Or the Mets or the Nationals and A's and Pirates etc.
And sometimes with the championship or bust statement comes awful decisions that stranglehold the team for multiple years, overpaying the wrong people to try and win. Id rather this team clean house and blow it up and play and develop all the young guys then another season of this. Just because you dont make the playoffs doesnt mean u are a losing organization. Chemistry is built when developing together and it can be rewarding watch young players improve themselves and the team and eventually get to the playoffs and try to win it all and thats when u can add to them to help. Also Just bcuz u make the playoffs most years doesnt mean you are doing it the right way or should be considered a top organization. (Anybody with this payroll should be able to make the playoffs if thats the only goal). Especially when out of all those appearances you cant make it to the final series. But the yankees cant seem to grasp that, probably because they dont care enough as long as they make money and clearly dont understand how to mesh the two (they can with the resources they have) and let young talent play, make mistakes, and develop along other top players at the major league level. The last 13 years teams are running circles around them even tho they make the playoffs alot. Just look at the astros, redsox, even rays, jeez even the phillies made it back to the world series before them. Just look around all sports the top organizations arent always in the playoffs. Its just when they are they have a good shot to win bcuz they have people in charge who know how to manage winning teams and get not as good teams into good teams relatively quickly. Cashman thinks its a good sign to never fire coaches midseason and have managers stay around a long time. Well Not if it leads to where they are now. He just makes arbitrary rules to make himself think he better than he is. Most teams, winning or losing, dont have the same head coach for all that long. Just look at the phillies this year again. Cashman has so many flaws its unbelievable how he still has his job. They need to let go of the past winning history when it comes to the future team successes. Like u said this is a whole new era, whole different leagues, most of that history came when things were so much different. They need their own new identity and personality and winning culture.
Judge only passed Maris because he cheated and used Goldilocks balls. The MLB also helped him by making sure if the pitch wasn’t thrown right down the middle it was called a ball. Judge is a bum and proves it every postseason.
The people who come up with the analytics keep saying that the numbers can't be changed. That means you put a guy who is a good match, and let them go. If you think you can make a change because of the situational opportunities that arise, you will only hurt the numbers of both pitchers. Because you cannot manipulate the system that way. That's the part nobody understands, because this is a subject beyond many people's ability to understand, like corporate types. This is science, and while it suggests a lot, it says absolutely nothing. The danger in playing with science comes when half smart people think their smarter than they actually are...
Why is he mad at David Ortiz? It's not his fault the team sucks, why does it matter what he says whether or not it's motivational.
More so because its ridiculous. Why did any of that happen? lol
Not mad at Ortiz, he’s mad at Boone for using him to motivate the team. Shouldn’t need to use him as motivation
Boone doesn't have any instincts...it's all analytics.
Stop paying for top million dollar players
It's just sad we couldn't even win one game I mean what a joke
The sweetest sweep of all!!
Next Day: Yoiu know if they had DJ and Benny maybe they would have won?
Astros will have Brantley back which probably gives them at least 5 more wins.
looking back on this yeah the Yankees have been run poorly in big spots you're in a must win situation. and you take out your best pitcher for a guy that's good against the bottom order of a lineup and what happens you give up 3 runs makes no sense. you stick with your ace no matter what give Cole the opportunity to finish in that spot.
Plain and simple. Cashman first, then Boone. Fire them both. Should have been done already
Micheal Kay is a hypocrite. When the fans were skeptical about Boone and criticizing his decisions Kay was the first to defend him and call all the fans spoiled losers.
Just be glad he came around now
@@JackCallSports He backtracked on a lot of it later on.
Fire Boone, he is clueless, Let him take Donaldson, Chapman, IKF, and Locastro with him, they are all overpaid. We made a trade to get rid of Sanchez last year, gave up Gio and got two clowns that can't hit, this team is regressing. If Judge is allowed to leave this team, there goes a large portion of the fan base, he is the one true Yankee on the team.
Should have just non tendered Sanchez, thanks Cashman, you clown.
Einstein never said that.
Boone and Cashman need to go. Enough already !
WOW, these guys need to relax. With so many good teams around how do they expect the Yankees to be in the WS every year? They are not the only good team. Now I can see how these Yankee players play under a lot of pressure from the owners, the media and the fans because, since they get paid a lot of money they should be in the WS by default, but it doesn't work that way. On the other hand the Astros were playing loose. They play so much under pressure that they don't even laugh (but Rizzo), it seems like they are not enjoying the game.
yea i mean i agree with you but the yankees will be the yankees and because of their history their fan base will expect this no matter what
I mean if they're paying out the ass for huge talent they should have at least made it to the world series in the last 10 years. With the payroll they have they should win just about every year that's why they're upset.
I still don’t understand why boone pulled talion when he was doing good in game 1 also thanks for the follow on Instagram
Yup there were def bigger problems
Idk astros probably new all of his stufff
What are u talking about
Not old?
Yankees cheated in 17 too no excuse there.
Michael Kay pleasure in life is to whine himself to sleep
He’s right though dude
How do you know?
Never forget cheating in 2017
Yankees got embarrassed, cry for another decade.
I think we are destined to a long and dark stage
Mike get off your phone while your cohosts are talking and making their points. Bad form to talk for 4-5 mins straight and then when it's their turn to chime in, you break out your phone and sit silently with no acknowledgement of what their saying
Cashman, Boone, Judge, Stanton, Cole, Donaldson have to go.