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I’m an ENTP. I’m a mix of not following through because of ADHD and committed to following through if nothing else just to prove I can. Eating Taco Bell for week though is NOT a challenge or a dare, I’ll eat Taco Bell all week just because. 😏 Don’t tell me I’m incapable of something. I will prove you wrong! I do argue for both novelty and to prove facts correct when it’s important. If your opinion is Madonna is the queen of popular music . I won’t argue with you but if you want to know my opinion I’ll say Madonna maybe the queen but Dolly is the Goddess of all music. We don’t have to agree but let’s not argue about it.
ENTP 8w7 Here :) Thank you for your Work! And btw, iam fine too have Not right, in a Debatte, i See this as a win win Situation. If iam right, i know that 😎 but ij iam Not right, ( mostly INTP or INTJ know thinks better 🥲😂... In Detail...) than i Win too, because i learn new Perspektives and thinks 😊 👍🏼.
Great point! We tend to lean on different aspects of our personalities depending on the situation. This is especially true for 7 and 8, as they can be wings of each other, and therefore they have access to each other's patterns more readily. Thank you for sharing! 🤗
Wahhh so interestinggg I often don't relate when many stereotype said that entps loves debate & hurt people by that, because I hate such debate but enjoying exploring what ifs when brainstorming (which isn't considerably as debate, I think), or joining an open discussion where we share our perspectives but still respecting one another But the most accurate is about seeking for happiness, highly2 true! Even I can resign because of boredness & don't feel happy anymore (but sure after got the new one that looks more interesting) Yet I think there are parts in 8 which relates w/ me, like I don't talk too much but still friendly, which made several people said I have such charisma for them to respect but still not being afraid. Andd I don't like to be controlled, but my chosen for now will still led me to not being tied & able to choose based on my mood So intestesting to watch this videoo!
Nice! That totally happens! Often we will have one type that is dominant, frequently with elements of the adjacent types, which get referred to as "wings", as in 8 with a wing in 7, or 8w7. But sometimes it can be hard to pin down which type is the dominant type. For that, I recommend thinking about the underlying motivation more than the patterns of behavior. Thank you for this great comment! 🤗
ENTP 5w4 here and I respectfully disagree with your argument that ENTPs can only be 7's or 8's. I'd posit that any MBTI can pair with any Enneagram. This is because MBTI defines personality type...ie HOW one thinks. Enneagram on the other hand defines motivating factors...ie: WHY one does what they do.
This is a great point! You're right, ENTPs can indeed be other Enneagram types, and I touch on that briefly at the end of the video (I mention ENTP 3s as an example, but other types can be ENTPs, too). You're also totally right that the MBTI and Enneagram look at different aspects of personality, and this is something people overlook all the time, so I'm so glad you bring it up! What I would add to that point is that while MBTI and Enneagram look at different aspects of personality, they are not totally independent variables, and we do see correlations between the two. In other words, some Enneagram type will be more common among certain MBTI types and vice versa -- like, you're going to see more Enneagram 2s who are ENFJs than INTJs, for example. I get into all this in my "Why the MBTI doesn't work for everything" video, which you might find interesting: th-cam.com/video/K_efTVWeaoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UdBha1bud2xJeX9I Also, if you're curious about how Enneagram 5s can present in a more extroverted way, you might like this video: th-cam.com/video/0WuE-Meyh1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=OjyybkeGscPWLp3B In it, I discuss the three subtypes on Enneagram 5, and I should note that while I use INTJ 5s as a jumping off point, it really applies to 5s in general. Thank you for sharing and adding to the conversation! 🤗
I would like to know your opinion about ENTP 4w5, I did all tests again, studied the cognitive functions and i still get entp 4w5 even tho its unlikely.
Interesting! There are a few reasons why this might be happening. For one, tests for the Enneagram are notoriously not accurate, and ultimately what matters most is whether you relate to the main motivation of the type. I go into this in detail this video, and you might find it helpful: th-cam.com/video/3AowGOXFP9Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ybSvDxTLg02kw31O While it's true that 4s tend toward F on the MBTI, they can score T on the test, though this is often close to the 50% mark as opposed to overwhelmingly T. Also, your Tritype may influence how Type 4 presents, as can your instinct stacking (aka subtype). For example, Self Preservation-dominant Fours can seem to have more T on the MBTI. Thanks so much for sharing and adding depth and nuance to the conversation! 🤗
Hmm, I'm an ENTP 5w4. I debate for the sake of discussion, or to find the truth, or simply for fun. Can also sometimes turn around what someone said back at them as part of making my own point, or to point out irregularity. But I can also be a comedic goofball, or even wholesome comforter with people. Kind of ambivert. Can shift between gregarious or rhetorical, and laidback or distant. From philosophical to dirty minded humour. I don't feel a need to prove anything, and I don't like drama. People who gets offended destroys the discussion. So I prefer to mingle with smaller groups. So my point I'm making is that there are more than just two types of ENTP:s. 5w4 makes sense, because 5 is a a thinking enneagram, and 4 is individualistic free spirited.
Great points and examples! While 5s tend to lean towards introversion, they can score E in some cases on the MBTI, though it tends to be closer to the 50% mark as in your case. If you haven't already, you might want to check out my video about the 3 subtypes of 5s using instinct stacking (if this is unfamiliar jargon, don't worry, it's all explained!): th-cam.com/video/0WuE-Meyh1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PoIShSUkgtnufHri I use INTJ 5s as the jumping off point, but really it applies to all 5s. I'll be curious to hear your thoughts on that one, too! Thanks for adding to the conversation here! 🤗
@@TrueYouSystems Sure. I could do that. INTJ:s are the shadow type to ENTP, and I have been through enough crisis's to develop a "switch", which kicks in when I need to use things like Te and Fi instead of Ti and Fe. Usually when my Si fails. Have you looked into shadow types and shadow working? Could be interesting subjects to delve into.
There are more enneagram entp types. I'm five for example... 584. But yes, if i would have to choose between 7 and 8 of your descriptions I would gravitate more towards 8
Great point! While 5s tend to be more introverted, there are certainly 5s who get E on the MBTI (though usually it's close to the middle as opposed to strongly E). Some of this connects with instinct stacking, and if for more on that for 5s specifically, I'd recommend checking out my video about the three varieties of INTJ 5, which really applies to 5s in general: th-cam.com/video/0WuE-Meyh1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jIERVInOY-BN5Zv3 I'd love to hear your thoughts on that, too! Thank you for adding to the discussion here! 🤗
Now i got it. Usually ENTPs annoy me. I Think they are the most annoying especially that I am an INTJ. But i had a friend in high school who i am sure is ENTP and he was one of my best friends. Very smart, charismatic, achiever, likes to debate serious intellectual stuff, still funny most of the time, a dentist now he is.......i think he is type 8 and i think i get along with those people. another guy on youtube, a scientist, as smart and charismatic as my friend. i typed him ENTP too. and by the way, both provoke me and i used to be little angry sometimes but as a mature INTJ i think i am now, i discovered that those people with there open-to-all-possibilities Ne dominant function charges my enthusiasm & curiosity even more to learn and debate new stuff. and as an INTJ, i can easily say that i win most of the time but still i owe them the catalyst to debate something new. sometimes, INTJs fall in their Ni-Fi loop for a long period and people such as ENTPs can intrigue, provoke, or challenge us. as usual, thank you Ayla for your beautiful videos and beautiful appearance.
Thank so much! I always love hearing your perspective 🤗 I'm so glad this resonated with your experiences with ENTPs in your life. I like what you said about INTJs and ENTPs complementing each other's strengths. Thank you for enriching the discussion here! 🤗
Interesting! It's possible you have both in your Tritype, which refers to your main type for each Center of Intelligence (2,3,4 for Heart, 5,6,7 for Head, and 8,9,1 for Gut/Instinct). So you might have 8 and 7 in your Tritype along with either 2, 3 or 4. Types 8 and 7, along with Type 3, are part of what is sometimes called the "go-getter" triad, and they have in common a high level of energy, confidence, and audacity. These traits in common can also make it a little hard to pull apart which is your dominant type, which ultimately comes down to underlying motivation. This short video I made a while back summarizes the driving motivation for each type: th-cam.com/video/eZBi1Mlh2f0/w-d-xo.html Thanks for sharing here and adding to the conversation! 🤗
Sexual 8s have so much raw power and charisma. It's an inspiring thing and something I admire! 🤗 But society doesn't always understand that and may interpret that intensity as being "controlling," "aggressive" reactive or "too much" and that can be hard for 8s who just want to get things done in the way they see as just and fair. This framework can sometimes be helpful for 8s to keep in mind when dealing with other people and their responses🙂 Thanks so much for sharing your experience🤗 I hope this is helpful!
That's an interesting question! Astrology is out of my area of expertise, but I'd be curious to hear what others have to say about this. Also, if you'd like to describe more about your experience as an ENTP, I'd be happy to help you assess what your Enneagram type might be, and that might help shed some light on your question 😊 Thank you for sharing! 🤗
I'm so glad you asked this! One of the big reasons why I love the Enneagram is that it helps me better connect with and understand people, create relationships, and have a better ability to not put my own filter onto other people. I find it a helpful tool for building compassion towards others, since otherwise I might not understand why someone is doing something, and might just apply my own biases instead. And, of course, the MBTI and Enneagram don't explain everything about everyone -- we're far more complex! Thanks so much for helping expand the conversation! 🤗
@TrueYouSystems that's really sweet. For me, the mbti is an interesting and helpful shift in perspective. I'm not sure it helps me to understand others much better. I think I understand others rather well anyway - especially when it comes to practical interactions. To me, it is more about understanding myself and affirming a set of abilities and weaknesses that I'm comfortable identifying with. Part of it is unburdening me from the desire to be good at everything and fit in every role. I now know better who I want to be and what qualities I don't have to develop.
As a 7w8, or so I believe, I can relate a lot to both. But 7 represents my personality most of the time. Saying that, I’ve definitely took debates too far a lot of times 😅, I’m always respectful but can break down how someone’s wrong to such a degree it can embarrass them. I go full out, it’s a bad habit. I just want to show that they’re wrong. It’s important to me. 😂
This is a great example! I'm glad you brought up the debating drive also being about wanting to prove something is incorrect. This is a common theme for types in the thinking center (7, 6, and 5) who tend to want clarity and certainty around facts. Thanks for the great example!🤗
i am a (counter) type 9, so, wing 8 and i always get ENTP at my myress brigs test. Funny, How can it be? Thanks for the video, its exactly what i wanted.
So happy this video was helpful! Countertypes and 9s are often misunderstood, and especially countertype 9s (SO). They can definitely be ENTPs -- 9s tend to be more introverted, but that's not universal, and you see them pretty well represented across the MBTI. BTW, if you haven't already seen it, you might enjoy my video about the internal experiences of 9s that other people often don't see or understand: th-cam.com/video/JvG2jRIzYbU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Z-f50-lHHC2ce3Q9 Thank you for sharing! 🤗
Now my Dumb Ass is confused as Fuck. First my MBTI Test said I was a INTJ. Then I made another test that said I´m more a INTP than a INTJ. And THEN I made two test, to see if I was more likely to be a ENTP over a INTP And another about if I was more likely to be a ENTP over a INTJ. On both test ENTP won. And now I see this video and I can Identify myself with traits of both 7 and 8. The Identity crysis is growing guys-
Interesting! For the MBTI, I'd be curious what your percentages were -- was it close to the 50% mark for I/E and P/J? For the Enneagram, I'd think less in terms of traits and more in terms of underlying motivations -- which type's fixation to you relate to most? Thank you for sharing! 🤗
@@TrueYouSystems Both? I mean, on the tests I took I was INTJ on the first one, but for example: The INTJ vs INTP Test INTP won by 54% and INTJ 46%. HOWEVER. . . When I did the INTJ and INTP vs ENTP tests, the ENTP won by 80% against INTJ and 74% against INTP
This is interesting! I usually look at percentages for each trait pair to see which traits are most significant in a person's personality and which are less prominent. For example, you might be very close on P and J, and maybe on I and E as well, but more strongly N and T. BTW, you might find it interesting to do a Big 5 test as well -- I recommend doing a longer one that includes all of the facets of each of the 5 traits (my "Why ENTJ's Seem Like Introverts" video gets into this). I hope this is helpful! Thanks for sharing! 🤗
@@TrueYouSystems Thank you! BWT Do you recomend any specific website to do the MBTI test that you would actually trust? Maybe I just went to the wrong test, Idk. I´ll check the video you said and keep looking for info, thaks! (Btw, I´m from Mexico so I´m sorry if my english is wrong or off at any rate)
Definitely 8 leaning. And the word you're looking for is spite. I do chores, and learn new things to completion due to spite. It is a literal, "fuck you in particular". I have at least half those 7 traits though. Should prolly take the test, but meh. I have youtube rabbit holes to jump into.
I'm honored to be among your rabbit holes! 😁 This is a great example and way of expressing a classic 8 trait. I'm also not surprised you have 7 traits as well -- they are adjacent types, so 8s can have a 7 wing and vice versa, and you may also have 7 in your Tritype. BTW, if you want to go deeper into the Enneagram 8 rabbit hole, my video about ENTJs is all about 8s, too (along with 3s) and you may relate to elements of that, too. Thank you for adding to the conversation here! 🤗
Here I am ENTP 5w4 😢 I got 584 for trtype but I also getting bored easily...idk man...I.try to.ground myself with Ti a lot I have domineering side sometimes. I don't like to be controlled that's why I have to be someone who is in control. But, it kinda hard because I know people didn't like it and I have Fe, I don't like conflict but I have to in order not to being controlled. In the other hand, I am getting bored easily. When things having like a lot of fun thing possibilities, I'd like to enjoy all of them but again, if it's not possible then I have to choose one. I am okay with that. But I find, Ti help me to ground myself. When I getting in touch with my Ti..I think I could avoid unnecessary drama, while I still be in control.
Interesting! I love that you're using insight from personality systems for helpful strategies in your life, that's awesome! What you describe sounds a lot like Type 8, and sometimes 8s (and other types) who happen to be particularly intellectual can get test results that skew towards 5. On the other hand, 5s can have a strong independent streak. Ultimately, it's the main underlying motivation that determines a person's dominant type; so, for example, is that independent streak about not letting others have power over you (8s), or is it about not letting them put demands on your time and resources (5s)? I'm of the opinion that your own educated assessment of yourself is a better measure than a test, especially for the Enneagram -- for more on why, I made this video: th-cam.com/video/3AowGOXFP9Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=N7BM03Xw1lnnuisw I'd love to hear more of your thoughts, thank you for sharing here! 🤗
@@TrueYouSystems this gets me thinking for a day lol. Tbh I don't really know and notice myself (my Fi blindspot). I have to really instropective and understand myself, my drive and my motivation. Because I feel I could get motivated by anything 😩
Funny you mentioned that we 7s like to debate for fun with a smile on our face conveyiing playful banter and yet some more serious types get deeply offended. I wish those serious types could see the genuinnes of why we do what we do and not to cause discord. We are just as much of unifyers as ESFJs. It breaks my heart that the more serious types can only see the forest only for each individual tree and not the whole. If there is anything that needs to be learned is dont be walking around looking through a tube. Otherwise ya might run into things. Thank you miss INFP
You make a really good point about people sometimes not understanding where someone is coming from, and often our Enneagram types can make it hard for us to understand other types and their motivations. It's so helpful hearing from 7s like you, and learning from your perspectives! Thanks so much for sharing! 🤗
Good question! It's not one of the most common MTBI types for 9s, but it's definitely one you see. 9s are particularly varied in what MBTI types they can be (3s and 6s are like this, too). Thanks for adding to the conversation! 🤗
This was definitely an interesting take but there were many things I disagreed with. The very assumption that ENTPs are 7 or 8 has no basis. She could have just made the video about contrasting 7 and 8 not sure why ENTP is there. She had many good points about how they could be different however she presents very limited understanding of the Enneagram’s dynamics. 7s are this 8s are that is not a correct way of describing and contrasting types. Overall I enjoyed watching it and it was entertaining. Thank you.
I'm so glad you brought this up! It's true ENTPs can be many different enneagram types; these are just the two most common that tend to be reported, but certainly not the only. And of course there are many different MBTI types that can be either 7 or 8. The systems measure and look at different things, so though they may correlate they don't have a one-to-one match. I go into this more in depth in this video which you may find interesting: th-cam.com/video/K_efTVWeaoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xPQA0P-UMsxjPT3b 🙂. And I agree with you that contrasting 7 and 8 is not an in depth and comprehensive way to look at these types. But in this video I wanted to narrow down how 7 and 8s differ based on their internal motivation in general, but also specifically for this MBTI type that is common for both 7s and 8s, which also provides a case study for how the two systems overlay. While it's true that much of what I discuss in the video applies to 7s and 8s of any MBTI type, I did lean towards 7 and 8 type patterns that are especially prevalent in ENTPs. For a look at 7s that are a different MBTI type, ENFPs specifically, you might be interested in this video: th-cam.com/video/YxgeHbt_56U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WK0sXQp_XCRhZijf (I also have one about ENTJ 8s). I would love to hear your thoughts! Thanks so much for sharing these insights and helping deepen and expand the conversation!🤗
Nice! You make a great point that when we are doing well we can stretch outside of the narrower patterns of our type and even have the flexibility to use the patterns of other types, especially neighboring types (wings). Thank you for adding your insight to the conversation! 🤗
I've seen ENTP 8s disliking "joker" types, for being nonsensical and never taking anything seriously... Yeah, ENTP 7s. 😅 Oh and btw, I may not make an 8 cry, but when they start being unreasonable (I'm an INTJ 5), they'll at least fume
Good observation! Indeed, it may be hard to win a debate with an ENTP 8, but it can be easy enough to get a rise out of them 😅 -- at least for INTJ 5s, as this is one of their lesser-known superpowers 😉 BTW, I've got a whole Type 5 playlist, you might enjoy those videos, and I'd love to hear your thoughts! Thanks for sharing your perspective and experience! 🤗
Nice! So glad you found it helpful!! It's so interesting how different even one mbti type can be based on different enneagram types! Thanks for sharing! 🤗
Every psychological type can be all enneatype - If you do research you will find them. You could improve by presenting the 9 enneatypes of the 16 psychological types ^^
Great point! Yes, the two systems look at different things: the Enneagram focused on motivations and fixations, while the MBTI focuses on cognitive preferences. This is actually what my next video is all about, so stay tuned! So, while there are some correlations, and some MBTI types are more represented among some Enneagram types and vice versa -- as I discuss in this video -- it's not 1:1 and there's a lot of diversity and different combinations. BTW, if you're interested in how these dynamics play out with INTJs (I noticed your handle 😊) you might enjoy this video: th-cam.com/video/9q5TDuWAEMc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BL0VseMD9JvAV2JF ...or my other INTJ videos 😅. Thanks for sharing your insight here! 🤗
Nice! There are definitely ENTPs who are 3s -- for this video I limited the focus to the two most common, but you see a wide variety of Enneagram types as ENTPs. And, 3s in particular can be a wide variety of MBTI types. Thanks for adding to the conversation! 🤗
I'm so glad you brought this up! There are definitely some overlaps between ENTP 8s and the classic or stereotypical ENTJ, and in many cases this happens because ENTJs have a high rate of being 8s as well. But ENTJs are not all 8s, and those ENTJs with other Enneagram types, such as Type 3 for example, might seem quite different. You may be interested in checking out my ENTJ video that goes into the two most common Enneagram types for ENTJ, which are 8 and 3🙂 th-cam.com/video/v_yO3ynxFIU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fWMG6jeUh0QHYOro Thanks for sharing your thoughts here, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on that as well! 🤗
Great observation! The classic ENTJ that is often described as being very 8, though there are certainly other Enneagram types that can be ENTJ, and other MBTI types that can be Type 8! You might be interested in my video about ENTJs, which gets into that in detail: th-cam.com/video/v_yO3ynxFIU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wy8W5nd8GmdOW09t Also, if you're interested in how the MBTI and Enneagram intersect more generally, you might like this video as well: th-cam.com/video/K_efTVWeaoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Y6z5w6Cin44nsg0c I'd be curious to hear your thoughts! Thank you for sharing here and adding to the discussion! 🤗
That can totally be the case! Often this happens when someone has one type as their dominant type and the other type as a wing. Or, it could be that both types are part of someone's Tritype. Thank you for bringing up this great point! 🤗
Haha love it 😂 I was actually just looking for the "up to 11" clip from Spinal Tap, perhaps it'll make into my next video -- stay tuned 😎 Thanks for joining the party here! 🤗
Disagree. ENTPs are ADHD E7-users on account of dom-Ne. They then use their tertiary-Fe for either 3w2 or 2w3, and have any one of the body types last, most often defaulting to E8 for either the Triple-Extraverted 728 Free-Spirit, or Triple-Assertive 738 Mover-Shaker. 8w7 is ESTP, probably 863, 862, 836, 837, 827 or 826. 8w9 is ENTJ, 854, 853, 835 or 837
You bring up some good points about how our tritypes can influence how our MBTI presents! I agree that many ENTPs may be 728 or 738 as you mention. In general, 2s tend to be F-dominant, rather than T-dominant. This is because 2s, when making decisions, are fixated on the feelings of others. So, they lean heavily towards F over T and they don't tend to be ENTPs for this reason. I agree that ENTPs can definitely be 3s, as you suggest, though I didn't focus on that in this video. The Enneagram and MBTI interact in interesting ways and obviously don't line up 1-to-1. You might be interested in my "Why the MBTI doesn't work for everything" video, which gets into the different limitations of both systems and why and how they work together: th-cam.com/video/K_efTVWeaoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8M4H3gxftRGEXJn8 I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on it! Thank you for enriching the discussion here! 🤗
Nice! There are definitely many ENTP 6s. Type 6 is found all over the MBTI -- they are a versatile type, and their core motivation can be consistent with a variety of different cognitive styles. Thanks for adding to the conversation! 🤗
Nice! While 5s are generally more introverted, there are 5s who can score E over I on the MBTI (thought usually they are close to the 50% mark). This can be especially true for sexual (SX) subtype 5s -- for more on that you might be interested in this video (which really applies to 5s in general, not just INTJ 5s): th-cam.com/video/0WuE-Meyh1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QS8dq-K7tL0pKoAD I'd love to hear your thoughts! Thank you for sharing! 🤗
Very intersting video. Makes a lot of sense that 7 and 8 would be common for ENTPs. I beleive I'm an ENTP who's a 5w4. The Ne-Ti corresponds with 5 energy, and the Fe-Si tends to align a bit with the 4 wing in my estimation. I think I'm the harmonizing sub-type of ENTP, which can actually look a lot like an INFP lol
Thank you! So glad you found it interesting! And this is interesting too! 😄While most 5s test I in MBTI it does happen that some test E (usually when they are close to 50%) this can also happen when a 5 is a SX subtype. I have a video which goes into this and the other subtypes of 5s that you may find intriguing: th-cam.com/video/0WuE-Meyh1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=a-20aQscklJsDn1f I'd love to hear your thoughts! Thanks so much for adding to the conversation!🤗
Interesting! In some rare cases, 5s do score E on the MBTI, but often close to the 50% mark. This often has to do with the 5's subtype -- I have a video on this that you might find interesting in which I go into depth on how fives can present, including the more extroverted 5 (the video says INTJ but it really also applies to 5s in general). th-cam.com/video/0WuE-Meyh1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1wsX-KdpGSy99M6h Thank you for sharing here!
I’m an ENTP 8 I encourage you step into my capitulation Both of our lives will be better for it We know we want the world to be better… so let’s do it 🔥
7 is ENTP 738 or 728 8 is ESTP 873, 872, 863 or 862 If you're a certain EP, 7 could also be 748 ENFP or 793 ESFP. Otherwise, 8s could also be 863 ESTJ or 853 ENTJ -584 INTJ
Good thoughts! These are definitely MBTI-Enneagram combinations that are common, though there are others you see out there as well. Since the Enneagram and MBTI look at different aspects of personality, they do not line up 1:1, and lots of combinations are possible (though some might be more common than others). My newest video is all about this, you might be interested: th-cam.com/video/K_efTVWeaoM/w-d-xo.html I'd love to hear your thoughts on that one, too 😊 (I always appreciate insight from INTJ 5s!). Thank you for adding to the conversation! 🤗
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I’m an ENTP. I’m a mix of not following through because of ADHD and committed to following through if nothing else just to prove I can. Eating Taco Bell for week though is NOT a challenge or a dare, I’ll eat Taco Bell all week just because. 😏 Don’t tell me I’m incapable of something. I will prove you wrong! I do argue for both novelty and to prove facts correct when it’s important. If your opinion is Madonna is the queen of popular music . I won’t argue with you but if you want to know my opinion I’ll say Madonna maybe the queen but Dolly is the Goddess of all music. We don’t have to agree but let’s not argue about it.
As an INTJ, I always end up surrounded by ENTPs. But I think I only end up dating the 8s. Thanks for elucidating the differences.
I'm so glad it was helpful! Interesting observation, I'm curious if other INTJ's see a similar pattern! Thank you for sharing 🤗
Absolutely an ENTP 7. Love your page.
I'm so happy to hear that, thank you! And also glad it resonated, thanks for sharing! 🤗
ENTP 8w7 Here :)
Thank you for your Work!
And btw, iam fine too have Not right, in a Debatte, i See this as a win win Situation. If iam right, i know that 😎 but ij iam Not right, ( mostly INTP or INTJ know thinks better 🥲😂... In Detail...) than i Win too, because i learn new Perspektives and thinks 😊 👍🏼.
Great I'm actually both 7 and 8 depending on my situation and environment
Great point! We tend to lean on different aspects of our personalities depending on the situation. This is especially true for 7 and 8, as they can be wings of each other, and therefore they have access to each other's patterns more readily. Thank you for sharing! 🤗
great video, i just put on some back ground music to watch whole video with my entp attention span , kudos for the entertaining b roll
Thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 🤗
this is too detailed and accurate! I LOVED it!!
Yay! I'm so glad to hear that! Thank you for sharing here! 🤗
leaning more towards the 8 side for sure
Nice! Thanks for sharing! 🤗
Love this video! You deserve more likes ❤️
Thank you so much!! 🤗❤
Great video thanks for educating me
Thank you! So glad it was helpful! 🤗
so happy i discovered your channel!!
Yay! I'm so happy to have you here! ❤🤗
"Eights play to win, and they're going to prove that they have won and that they're right" that's it no need to watch the whole video i'm a 8
Haha love it, thank you! 🤗
Wahhh so interestinggg
I often don't relate when many stereotype said that entps loves debate & hurt people by that, because I hate such debate but enjoying exploring what ifs when brainstorming (which isn't considerably as debate, I think), or joining an open discussion where we share our perspectives but still respecting one another
But the most accurate is about seeking for happiness, highly2 true! Even I can resign because of boredness & don't feel happy anymore (but sure after got the new one that looks more interesting)
Yet I think there are parts in 8 which relates w/ me, like I don't talk too much but still friendly, which made several people said I have such charisma for them to respect but still not being afraid. Andd I don't like to be controlled, but my chosen for now will still led me to not being tied & able to choose based on my mood
So intestesting to watch this videoo!
Thank you! These are really good points! It sounds like you have a lot so elements of 7, and perhaps a wing in 8. Thanks so much for sharing! 🤗
Absolutely 8. A really great video.Thank you
Nice! I'm so glad you liked it, thank you! 🤗
I am an ENTP with both a 7 and 8 equally. It varies from day to day, depending on my mood.
Nice! That totally happens! Often we will have one type that is dominant, frequently with elements of the adjacent types, which get referred to as "wings", as in 8 with a wing in 7, or 8w7. But sometimes it can be hard to pin down which type is the dominant type. For that, I recommend thinking about the underlying motivation more than the patterns of behavior. Thank you for this great comment! 🤗
Very well defined, definitely subscribing, please do more of entp things as iam new to this 😂💖, btw iam the 7 one probably 😎
Thank you! So happy you liked it and are subscribing! 😊 Thanks for sharing! 🤗
ENTP 5w4 here and I respectfully disagree with your argument that ENTPs can only be 7's or 8's. I'd posit that any MBTI can pair with any Enneagram. This is because MBTI defines personality type...ie HOW one thinks. Enneagram on the other hand defines motivating factors...ie: WHY one does what they do.
This is a great point! You're right, ENTPs can indeed be other Enneagram types, and I touch on that briefly at the end of the video (I mention ENTP 3s as an example, but other types can be ENTPs, too). You're also totally right that the MBTI and Enneagram look at different aspects of personality, and this is something people overlook all the time, so I'm so glad you bring it up! What I would add to that point is that while MBTI and Enneagram look at different aspects of personality, they are not totally independent variables, and we do see correlations between the two. In other words, some Enneagram type will be more common among certain MBTI types and vice versa -- like, you're going to see more Enneagram 2s who are ENFJs than INTJs, for example.
I get into all this in my "Why the MBTI doesn't work for everything" video, which you might find interesting: th-cam.com/video/K_efTVWeaoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UdBha1bud2xJeX9I
Also, if you're curious about how Enneagram 5s can present in a more extroverted way, you might like this video: th-cam.com/video/0WuE-Meyh1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=OjyybkeGscPWLp3B In it, I discuss the three subtypes on Enneagram 5, and I should note that while I use INTJ 5s as a jumping off point, it really applies to 5s in general.
Thank you for sharing and adding to the conversation! 🤗
Great vid. Defo an 8. By far. Never knew there was a distinction between enpts. Great value gained from vid
Thank you so much! So happy you found it valuable! 🤗
the sweet talking thing is so funny. like, yeah, sometimes i just start doing improv and everyone believes it
Haha love this example! Thanks for sharing! 🤗
7:15 - Me with 4-5 youtube tabs at once lol...
Haha great example! Thanks for sharing! 🤗
I would like to know your opinion about ENTP 4w5, I did all tests again, studied the cognitive functions and i still get entp 4w5 even tho its unlikely.
Interesting! There are a few reasons why this might be happening. For one, tests for the Enneagram are notoriously not accurate, and ultimately what matters most is whether you relate to the main motivation of the type. I go into this in detail this video, and you might find it helpful: th-cam.com/video/3AowGOXFP9Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ybSvDxTLg02kw31O
While it's true that 4s tend toward F on the MBTI, they can score T on the test, though this is often close to the 50% mark as opposed to overwhelmingly T.
Also, your Tritype may influence how Type 4 presents, as can your instinct stacking (aka subtype). For example, Self Preservation-dominant Fours can seem to have more T on the MBTI.
Thanks so much for sharing and adding depth and nuance to the conversation! 🤗
Hmm, I'm an ENTP 5w4. I debate for the sake of discussion, or to find the truth, or simply for fun. Can also sometimes turn around what someone said back at them as part of making my own point, or to point out irregularity. But I can also be a comedic goofball, or even wholesome comforter with people. Kind of ambivert. Can shift between gregarious or rhetorical, and laidback or distant. From philosophical to dirty minded humour.
I don't feel a need to prove anything, and I don't like drama. People who gets offended destroys the discussion. So I prefer to mingle with smaller groups.
So my point I'm making is that there are more than just two types of ENTP:s. 5w4 makes sense, because 5 is a a thinking enneagram, and 4 is individualistic free spirited.
Great points and examples! While 5s tend to lean towards introversion, they can score E in some cases on the MBTI, though it tends to be closer to the 50% mark as in your case. If you haven't already, you might want to check out my video about the 3 subtypes of 5s using instinct stacking (if this is unfamiliar jargon, don't worry, it's all explained!): th-cam.com/video/0WuE-Meyh1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PoIShSUkgtnufHri I use INTJ 5s as the jumping off point, but really it applies to all 5s. I'll be curious to hear your thoughts on that one, too! Thanks for adding to the conversation here! 🤗
@@TrueYouSystems Sure. I could do that. INTJ:s are the shadow type to ENTP, and I have been through enough crisis's to develop a "switch", which kicks in when I need to use things like Te and Fi instead of Ti and Fe. Usually when my Si fails.
Have you looked into shadow types and shadow working? Could be interesting subjects to delve into.
5:25 how ? Well, if you ask nicely and with a smile you can get a lot of things 😁
Totally! People often underestimate this, great point! Thanks for sharing! 🤗
There are more enneagram entp types. I'm five for example... 584. But yes, if i would have to choose between 7 and 8 of your descriptions I would gravitate more towards 8
Great point! While 5s tend to be more introverted, there are certainly 5s who get E on the MBTI (though usually it's close to the middle as opposed to strongly E). Some of this connects with instinct stacking, and if for more on that for 5s specifically, I'd recommend checking out my video about the three varieties of INTJ 5, which really applies to 5s in general: th-cam.com/video/0WuE-Meyh1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jIERVInOY-BN5Zv3 I'd love to hear your thoughts on that, too! Thank you for adding to the discussion here! 🤗
Omg i'm a seven lol everything was spot on thanks. I Was trying to look up how to stick to things better.
Yay! Thank you! I'm so glad it was spot on :) Thanks for sharing! 🤗
this was sooo accurate
Yay! I'm so glad you found it accurate! Thanks so much for sharing!🤗
Now i got it. Usually ENTPs annoy me. I Think they are the most annoying especially that I am an INTJ. But i had a friend in high school who i am sure is ENTP and he was one of my best friends. Very smart, charismatic, achiever, likes to debate serious intellectual stuff, still funny most of the time, a dentist now he is.......i think he is type 8 and i think i get along with those people. another guy on youtube, a scientist, as smart and charismatic as my friend. i typed him ENTP too. and by the way, both provoke me and i used to be little angry sometimes but as a mature INTJ i think i am now, i discovered that those people with there open-to-all-possibilities Ne dominant function charges my enthusiasm & curiosity even more to learn and debate new stuff. and as an INTJ, i can easily say that i win most of the time but still i owe them the catalyst to debate something new. sometimes, INTJs fall in their Ni-Fi loop for a long period and people such as ENTPs can intrigue, provoke, or challenge us. as usual, thank you Ayla for your beautiful videos and beautiful appearance.
Thank so much! I always love hearing your perspective 🤗 I'm so glad this resonated with your experiences with ENTPs in your life. I like what you said about INTJs and ENTPs complementing each other's strengths. Thank you for enriching the discussion here! 🤗
INTJs are good debaters, ENTPs are the debaters bud.
I think I'm both.
Interesting! It's possible you have both in your Tritype, which refers to your main type for each Center of Intelligence (2,3,4 for Heart, 5,6,7 for Head, and 8,9,1 for Gut/Instinct). So you might have 8 and 7 in your Tritype along with either 2, 3 or 4. Types 8 and 7, along with Type 3, are part of what is sometimes called the "go-getter" triad, and they have in common a high level of energy, confidence, and audacity. These traits in common can also make it a little hard to pull apart which is your dominant type, which ultimately comes down to underlying motivation. This short video I made a while back summarizes the driving motivation for each type: th-cam.com/video/eZBi1Mlh2f0/w-d-xo.html Thanks for sharing here and adding to the conversation! 🤗
Same
Any other ENTPs here who also feel somehow both a 7 and an 8 on most of these?
I'm so curious too! Thanks for the great question! 🤗
I'm an 8w9 sx/sp and entp who acts like an enfp part of the time. Any help u can give with dealing with this crappy world would be great
Sexual 8s have so much raw power and charisma. It's an inspiring thing and something I admire! 🤗 But society doesn't always understand that and may interpret that intensity as being "controlling," "aggressive" reactive or "too much" and that can be hard for 8s who just want to get things done in the way they see as just and fair. This framework can sometimes be helpful for 8s to keep in mind when dealing with other people and their responses🙂 Thanks so much for sharing your experience🤗 I hope this is helpful!
so what happens when you have a Gemini;Virgo;Pices. (sun,moon, rising) but entp?
That's an interesting question! Astrology is out of my area of expertise, but I'd be curious to hear what others have to say about this. Also, if you'd like to describe more about your experience as an ENTP, I'd be happy to help you assess what your Enneagram type might be, and that might help shed some light on your question 😊 Thank you for sharing! 🤗
does it give you a feeling of control to put layers of labels on people?
I'm so glad you asked this! One of the big reasons why I love the Enneagram is that it helps me better connect with and understand people, create relationships, and have a better ability to not put my own filter onto other people. I find it a helpful tool for building compassion towards others, since otherwise I might not understand why someone is doing something, and might just apply my own biases instead. And, of course, the MBTI and Enneagram don't explain everything about everyone -- we're far more complex! Thanks so much for helping expand the conversation! 🤗
@TrueYouSystems that's really sweet. For me, the mbti is an interesting and helpful shift in perspective. I'm not sure it helps me to understand others much better. I think I understand others rather well anyway - especially when it comes to practical interactions.
To me, it is more about understanding myself and affirming a set of abilities and weaknesses that I'm comfortable identifying with. Part of it is unburdening me from the desire to be good at everything and fit in every role. I now know better who I want to be and what qualities I don't have to develop.
As a 7w8, or so I believe, I can relate a lot to both. But 7 represents my personality most of the time. Saying that, I’ve definitely took debates too far a lot of times 😅, I’m always respectful but can break down how someone’s wrong to such a degree it can embarrass them. I go full out, it’s a bad habit. I just want to show that they’re wrong. It’s important to me. 😂
This is a great example! I'm glad you brought up the debating drive also being about wanting to prove something is incorrect. This is a common theme for types in the thinking center (7, 6, and 5) who tend to want clarity and certainty around facts. Thanks for the great example!🤗
i am a (counter) type 9, so, wing 8 and i always get ENTP at my myress brigs test. Funny, How can it be? Thanks for the video, its exactly what i wanted.
So happy this video was helpful! Countertypes and 9s are often misunderstood, and especially countertype 9s (SO). They can definitely be ENTPs -- 9s tend to be more introverted, but that's not universal, and you see them pretty well represented across the MBTI. BTW, if you haven't already seen it, you might enjoy my video about the internal experiences of 9s that other people often don't see or understand: th-cam.com/video/JvG2jRIzYbU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Z-f50-lHHC2ce3Q9 Thank you for sharing! 🤗
nice video!
Thank you! So glad you liked it!🤗
Now my Dumb Ass is confused as Fuck.
First my MBTI Test said I was a INTJ.
Then I made another test that said I´m more a INTP than a INTJ.
And THEN I made two test, to see if I was more likely to be a ENTP over a INTP
And another about if I was more likely to be a ENTP over a INTJ.
On both test ENTP won.
And now I see this video and I can Identify myself with traits of both 7 and 8.
The Identity crysis is growing guys-
Interesting! For the MBTI, I'd be curious what your percentages were -- was it close to the 50% mark for I/E and P/J? For the Enneagram, I'd think less in terms of traits and more in terms of underlying motivations -- which type's fixation to you relate to most? Thank you for sharing! 🤗
@@TrueYouSystems Both?
I mean, on the tests I took I was INTJ on the first one, but for example: The INTJ vs INTP Test INTP won by 54% and INTJ 46%.
HOWEVER. . . When I did the INTJ and INTP vs ENTP tests, the ENTP won by 80% against INTJ and 74% against INTP
This is interesting! I usually look at percentages for each trait pair to see which traits are most significant in a person's personality and which are less prominent. For example, you might be very close on P and J, and maybe on I and E as well, but more strongly N and T. BTW, you might find it interesting to do a Big 5 test as well -- I recommend doing a longer one that includes all of the facets of each of the 5 traits (my "Why ENTJ's Seem Like Introverts" video gets into this). I hope this is helpful! Thanks for sharing! 🤗
@@TrueYouSystems Thank you!
BWT Do you recomend any specific website to do the MBTI test that you would actually trust?
Maybe I just went to the wrong test, Idk.
I´ll check the video you said and keep looking for info, thaks!
(Btw, I´m from Mexico so I´m sorry if my english is wrong or off at any rate)
Definitely 8 leaning. And the word you're looking for is spite. I do chores, and learn new things to completion due to spite. It is a literal, "fuck you in particular".
I have at least half those 7 traits though. Should prolly take the test, but meh. I have youtube rabbit holes to jump into.
I'm honored to be among your rabbit holes! 😁 This is a great example and way of expressing a classic 8 trait. I'm also not surprised you have 7 traits as well -- they are adjacent types, so 8s can have a 7 wing and vice versa, and you may also have 7 in your Tritype. BTW, if you want to go deeper into the Enneagram 8 rabbit hole, my video about ENTJs is all about 8s, too (along with 3s) and you may relate to elements of that, too. Thank you for adding to the conversation here! 🤗
Here I am ENTP 5w4 😢 I got 584 for trtype but I also getting bored easily...idk man...I.try to.ground myself with Ti a lot
I have domineering side sometimes. I don't like to be controlled that's why I have to be someone who is in control. But, it kinda hard because I know people didn't like it and I have Fe, I don't like conflict but I have to in order not to being controlled.
In the other hand, I am getting bored easily. When things having like a lot of fun thing possibilities, I'd like to enjoy all of them but again, if it's not possible then I have to choose one. I am okay with that.
But I find, Ti help me to ground myself. When I getting in touch with my Ti..I think I could avoid unnecessary drama, while I still be in control.
Interesting! I love that you're using insight from personality systems for helpful strategies in your life, that's awesome! What you describe sounds a lot like Type 8, and sometimes 8s (and other types) who happen to be particularly intellectual can get test results that skew towards 5. On the other hand, 5s can have a strong independent streak. Ultimately, it's the main underlying motivation that determines a person's dominant type; so, for example, is that independent streak about not letting others have power over you (8s), or is it about not letting them put demands on your time and resources (5s)? I'm of the opinion that your own educated assessment of yourself is a better measure than a test, especially for the Enneagram -- for more on why, I made this video: th-cam.com/video/3AowGOXFP9Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=N7BM03Xw1lnnuisw I'd love to hear more of your thoughts, thank you for sharing here! 🤗
@@TrueYouSystems this gets me thinking for a day lol. Tbh I don't really know and notice myself (my Fi blindspot). I have to really instropective and understand myself, my drive and my motivation. Because I feel I could get motivated by anything 😩
Funny you mentioned that we 7s like to debate for fun with a smile on our face conveyiing playful banter and yet some more serious types get deeply offended. I wish those serious types could see the genuinnes of why we do what we do and not to cause discord. We are just as much of unifyers as ESFJs. It breaks my heart that the more serious types can only see the forest only for each individual tree and not the whole. If there is anything that needs to be learned is dont be walking around looking through a tube. Otherwise ya might run into things. Thank you miss INFP
You make a really good point about people sometimes not understanding where someone is coming from, and often our Enneagram types can make it hard for us to understand other types and their motivations. It's so helpful hearing from 7s like you, and learning from your perspectives! Thanks so much for sharing! 🤗
@@TrueYouSystems 😁
I am an 8 and you’re spot on!
Yay! So glad you found it relatable, thank you for sharing! 🤗
ENTP 9w1 here, i wonder if this is rare?
Good question! It's not one of the most common MTBI types for 9s, but it's definitely one you see. 9s are particularly varied in what MBTI types they can be (3s and 6s are like this, too). Thanks for adding to the conversation! 🤗
This was definitely an interesting take but there were many things I disagreed with. The very assumption that ENTPs are 7 or 8 has no basis. She could have just made the video about contrasting 7 and 8 not sure why ENTP is there. She had many good points about how they could be different however she presents very limited understanding of the Enneagram’s dynamics. 7s are this 8s are that is not a correct way of describing and contrasting types. Overall I enjoyed watching it and it was entertaining. Thank you.
I'm so glad you brought this up! It's true ENTPs can be many different enneagram types; these are just the two most common that tend to be reported, but certainly not the only. And of course there are many different MBTI types that can be either 7 or 8. The systems measure and look at different things, so though they may correlate they don't have a one-to-one match. I go into this more in depth in this video which you may find interesting: th-cam.com/video/K_efTVWeaoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xPQA0P-UMsxjPT3b 🙂. And I agree with you that contrasting 7 and 8 is not an in depth and comprehensive way to look at these types. But in this video I wanted to narrow down how 7 and 8s differ based on their internal motivation in general, but also specifically for this MBTI type that is common for both 7s and 8s, which also provides a case study for how the two systems overlay. While it's true that much of what I discuss in the video applies to 7s and 8s of any MBTI type, I did lean towards 7 and 8 type patterns that are especially prevalent in ENTPs. For a look at 7s that are a different MBTI type, ENFPs specifically, you might be interested in this video: th-cam.com/video/YxgeHbt_56U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WK0sXQp_XCRhZijf (I also have one about ENTJ 8s). I would love to hear your thoughts! Thanks so much for sharing these insights and helping deepen and expand the conversation!🤗
I am 8, but on really and i mean REALLY good day (which is not so often) I tend to be more 7, so yea usually 8
Nice! You make a great point that when we are doing well we can stretch outside of the narrower patterns of our type and even have the flexibility to use the patterns of other types, especially neighboring types (wings). Thank you for adding your insight to the conversation! 🤗
I've seen ENTP 8s disliking "joker" types, for being nonsensical and never taking anything seriously... Yeah, ENTP 7s. 😅 Oh and btw, I may not make an 8 cry, but when they start being unreasonable (I'm an INTJ 5), they'll at least fume
Good observation! Indeed, it may be hard to win a debate with an ENTP 8, but it can be easy enough to get a rise out of them 😅 -- at least for INTJ 5s, as this is one of their lesser-known superpowers 😉 BTW, I've got a whole Type 5 playlist, you might enjoy those videos, and I'd love to hear your thoughts! Thanks for sharing your perspective and experience! 🤗
I don't have alot of experience with this type sadly.
I hope this video helped explain an unfamiliar type! Thanks for sharing 🤗
6:21 Oh my! That look on your face when you're offering the beers! Just... oh my!
Thank you, Jerry haha!😆 It was fun to try to embody an 8 even thought it took me lots of takes haha! 😩😆
Lol that explain a lot why my friend and I are different
Nice! So glad you found it helpful!! It's so interesting how different even one mbti type can be based on different enneagram types! Thanks for sharing! 🤗
You must be ENTP yourself!
Aww thank you! I'm an ENFJ 🤗 But what a compliment! Thank you!🤗
Im older, I'd say maturity .
Good point! For some maturity can influence how our patterns present externally. Thanks for sharing! 🤗
Every psychological type can be all enneatype - If you do research you will find them.
You could improve by presenting the 9 enneatypes of the 16 psychological types ^^
Great point! Yes, the two systems look at different things: the Enneagram focused on motivations and fixations, while the MBTI focuses on cognitive preferences. This is actually what my next video is all about, so stay tuned! So, while there are some correlations, and some MBTI types are more represented among some Enneagram types and vice versa -- as I discuss in this video -- it's not 1:1 and there's a lot of diversity and different combinations. BTW, if you're interested in how these dynamics play out with INTJs (I noticed your handle 😊) you might enjoy this video: th-cam.com/video/9q5TDuWAEMc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BL0VseMD9JvAV2JF ...or my other INTJ videos 😅. Thanks for sharing your insight here! 🤗
@@TrueYouSystems Thank you for the clarification.
I'm an entp 3w2 female.
Nice! There are definitely ENTPs who are 3s -- for this video I limited the focus to the two most common, but you see a wide variety of Enneagram types as ENTPs. And, 3s in particular can be a wide variety of MBTI types. Thanks for adding to the conversation! 🤗
I think ENTP8 is actually described as an ENTJ
I'm so glad you brought this up! There are definitely some overlaps between ENTP 8s and the classic or stereotypical ENTJ, and in many cases this happens because ENTJs have a high rate of being 8s as well. But ENTJs are not all 8s, and those ENTJs with other Enneagram types, such as Type 3 for example, might seem quite different. You may be interested in checking out my ENTJ video that goes into the two most common Enneagram types for ENTJ, which are 8 and 3🙂 th-cam.com/video/v_yO3ynxFIU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fWMG6jeUh0QHYOro Thanks for sharing your thoughts here, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on that as well! 🤗
8 just sounds like an entj honestly
Great observation! The classic ENTJ that is often described as being very 8, though there are certainly other Enneagram types that can be ENTJ, and other MBTI types that can be Type 8! You might be interested in my video about ENTJs, which gets into that in detail: th-cam.com/video/v_yO3ynxFIU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wy8W5nd8GmdOW09t Also, if you're interested in how the MBTI and Enneagram intersect more generally, you might like this video as well: th-cam.com/video/K_efTVWeaoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Y6z5w6Cin44nsg0c I'd be curious to hear your thoughts! Thank you for sharing here and adding to the discussion! 🤗
Actually ...it is both...depending on the mood.
That can totally be the case! Often this happens when someone has one type as their dominant type and the other type as a wing. Or, it could be that both types are part of someone's Tritype. Thank you for bringing up this great point! 🤗
How can we be 7's or 8's when we're CLEARLY 11's.................................................................. on the Richter Scale
Haha love it 😂 I was actually just looking for the "up to 11" clip from Spinal Tap, perhaps it'll make into my next video -- stay tuned 😎 Thanks for joining the party here! 🤗
Hi,
Im a 8-7 entp
Nice! Thanks for sharing! 🤗
As an Entp I think -
I'd love to hear your thoughts! 🤗
Disagree. ENTPs are ADHD E7-users on account of dom-Ne. They then use their tertiary-Fe for either 3w2 or 2w3, and have any one of the body types last, most often defaulting to E8 for either the Triple-Extraverted 728 Free-Spirit, or Triple-Assertive 738 Mover-Shaker.
8w7 is ESTP, probably 863, 862, 836, 837, 827 or 826.
8w9 is ENTJ, 854, 853, 835 or 837
You bring up some good points about how our tritypes can influence how our MBTI presents! I agree that many ENTPs may be 728 or 738 as you mention. In general, 2s tend to be F-dominant, rather than T-dominant. This is because 2s, when making decisions, are fixated on the feelings of others. So, they lean heavily towards F over T and they don't tend to be ENTPs for this reason. I agree that ENTPs can definitely be 3s, as you suggest, though I didn't focus on that in this video. The Enneagram and MBTI interact in interesting ways and obviously don't line up 1-to-1. You might be interested in my "Why the MBTI doesn't work for everything" video, which gets into the different limitations of both systems and why and how they work together: th-cam.com/video/K_efTVWeaoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8M4H3gxftRGEXJn8 I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on it! Thank you for enriching the discussion here! 🤗
I'm an 7 and my is definitely an 8😊
Thank you for sharing! 🤗
I'm ENTP 6w7
Nice! There are definitely many ENTP 6s. Type 6 is found all over the MBTI -- they are a versatile type, and their core motivation can be consistent with a variety of different cognitive styles. Thanks for adding to the conversation! 🤗
Am absolutely an 8
Nice! Thanks for sharing!🤗
While me 5w4 but an entp lol
Nice! While 5s are generally more introverted, there are 5s who can score E over I on the MBTI (thought usually they are close to the 50% mark). This can be especially true for sexual (SX) subtype 5s -- for more on that you might be interested in this video (which really applies to 5s in general, not just INTJ 5s): th-cam.com/video/0WuE-Meyh1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QS8dq-K7tL0pKoAD I'd love to hear your thoughts! Thank you for sharing! 🤗
@@TrueYouSystems i checked the video thank u, it explains alot.
Great, I'm so glad that it was helpful! 🤗
Very intersting video. Makes a lot of sense that 7 and 8 would be common for ENTPs. I beleive I'm an ENTP who's a 5w4. The Ne-Ti corresponds with 5 energy, and the Fe-Si tends to align a bit with the 4 wing in my estimation. I think I'm the harmonizing sub-type of ENTP, which can actually look a lot like an INFP lol
Thank you! So glad you found it interesting! And this is interesting too! 😄While most 5s test I in MBTI it does happen that some test E (usually when they are close to 50%) this can also happen when a 5 is a SX subtype. I have a video which goes into this and the other subtypes of 5s that you may find intriguing: th-cam.com/video/0WuE-Meyh1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=a-20aQscklJsDn1f I'd love to hear your thoughts! Thanks so much for adding to the conversation!🤗
ISFJ 9w1
ISFP 9w8
ENTJ 8w9
ESTP 8w7(1)
ESFP 7w8(5)
ENxP 7w6
ISTJ 6w7
ISTP 6w5
INTP 5w6
INTJ 5w4(7)
INFJ 4w5(2)
INFP 4w3
ESTJ 3w4
ExFJ 3w2
ExFJ E2
ISxJ E1
E9 = Si-Fi
E8 = Se-Te
E7 = Se-Ne
E6 = Si-Ti
E5 = Ni-Ti
E4 = Ni-Fi
E3 = Fe-Te
E2 = Fe
E1 = Si
INTJ 584
Ni-(Ti) 5w7
Te-Se 8w9
Ni-Fi 4w3
x
Te-(Fe) 3w4
Fi-(Si) 9w8
Se-(Ne) 7w5
ESFP 793
Se-(Ne) 7w5
Fi-(Si) 9w8
Te-(Fe) 3w4
x
Fi-Ni 4w3
Se-Te 8w9
Ni-(Ti) 5w7
Variations:
INTJ
583-584-548-549
ESFP 794-793-739-738
ENTJ 854-853-835-837
ISFP 973-974-947-945
DSM5 connection:
E9 DPD
E8 ASPD
E7 HPD/ADHD
E6 PPD
E5 STPD
E4 BPD
E3 NPD
E2 Neurotypical-Disorder
E1 OCPD/ASD
-ENTJ 854
Im a 7.5
Nice! Thanks for sharing!🤗
ENTP 5w6
Interesting! In some rare cases, 5s do score E on the MBTI, but often close to the 50% mark. This often has to do with the 5's subtype -- I have a video on this that you might find interesting in which I go into depth on how fives can present, including the more extroverted 5 (the video says INTJ but it really also applies to 5s in general). th-cam.com/video/0WuE-Meyh1s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1wsX-KdpGSy99M6h Thank you for sharing here!
@@TrueYouSystems Hi! Thank you very much for the link. I have watched your video on type 5 and I relate to social the most 😅
I’m an ENTP 8
I encourage you step into my capitulation
Both of our lives will be better for it
We know we want the world to be better… so let’s do it 🔥
It's great to hear from an ENTP 8! Thanks for sharing!🤗
7 is ENTP 738 or 728
8 is ESTP 873, 872, 863 or 862
If you're a certain EP, 7 could also be 748 ENFP or 793 ESFP. Otherwise, 8s could also be 863 ESTJ or 853 ENTJ
-584 INTJ
Good thoughts! These are definitely MBTI-Enneagram combinations that are common, though there are others you see out there as well. Since the Enneagram and MBTI look at different aspects of personality, they do not line up 1:1, and lots of combinations are possible (though some might be more common than others). My newest video is all about this, you might be interested: th-cam.com/video/K_efTVWeaoM/w-d-xo.html I'd love to hear your thoughts on that one, too 😊 (I always appreciate insight from INTJ 5s!). Thank you for adding to the conversation! 🤗
There's no lactose in cheese.
Great debate opener lol 😄Thanks for jumping into the discussion here! 🤗
You have an 8 here.
Nice! Thanks for sharing!🤗
@TrueYouSystems I have much respect for you psychology geeks on yt. Its amazing all the knowledge these channels have.