@@sand8908 im pretty sure that the smallest size will always fit, if your ear canal are barely wider than the biggest nozzle then you're not cut out for this hobby to begin with. nozzle diameter is rarely an issue, its the length that influences fit
@@samuelthomas2652 meh. I’d love it at $20, like it at $50. At $75 you can do better. I’d buy the Chu 2 and Zero 2 and then have cable or ear tip money to play with.
As soon as i got these in hand i chucked away the eartips that came in the box and put some spinfit CP100 M and got that perfect fit and seal for my ears and honestly have had a good experience with these IEM's
I'm the other way around, I don't mind short nozzles, but my ear canal diameter is small so even with the smallest tips only a select amount of iems fit my ears.
I definitely have the same issue. Near impossible to get a proper seal with these IEMS with stock tips, but when I can, it sounds great. Otherwise, it's this weird, shallow fitting, very hollow sound with constant breaks in seal. The one workaround I've found is to use SpinFit double flange CP240 tips. Works surprisingly well. Perfect seal every time. Just kinda sucks because they're pretty intrusive and probably alter the sound signature a bit, and you still don't get that proper insertion depth.
When I come across IEMs that don't fit properly due to the contour you mentioned, the only tips that work for me are Dunu S&S tips. Out of curiosity, what tips did you try?
Sure raises an interesting point about how useful iem reviews actually are. It took me forever to find a semi decent fit with the hexa. I guess every review comes with the imaginary disclaimer: "If your ear canal and the fit is similar to the reviewer," *shrug*
You have an important point there, because a few things are not mention on the reviews that turn out to be an issue. With the LetShouer S12 I had a cable issue, first when I listened to a friend's one before mine arrived, the cable would lift up behind my ear the moment it got warmth from my head, irritatingly so, these are things that don't bother other people, and there's quite a few.
appreciate the honesty, especially given that crinacle is your friend. fit is king, tips help, ultimately, a custom fit enclosure cannot be beat, such as the unique melody mest mk2 CIEM - worth every penny
Hahahaha! I used to run imto Vanfleet the original Beefheart at Denny’s restaurant off Avenue K in Lancaster California lol! and also know the current Beefheart who was at first the drummer for the band :)
What does 7Hz x Crinacle Zero:2 and this one have in common? Both doesn't have children on the box and both got bad review from Andrew. Checkmate atheist.
Mine are on the way. I'm very curious to hear for myself and experiment with different tips. I tend to have good luck squeezing some IEMs into Etymotic style double flanged tips. Also curious as to how they'll fit with some regular old Comply foam tips.
SpinFit CP240 double flange helps fix the seal with these IEMS, currently listening with this configuration. Still sounds kinda harsh to my ears but better seal.
Yeah I had some fit issues when I tried it too. It was ok once i swapped to azla sednaearfit lights, one size larger than i usually use. The azla tips are much longer than the stock tips.
I got my review set yesterday and, fortunately, it fits my ears well. I have been very happy with them so far, but I do agree that it has some weird issues. I too, could not get a good seal with the provided tips. I did find the Azla tips made a vast improvement. Another issue I had was the cable. It was meh at best; a downgrade from others in the price category at worst. Either way, this one looks to be more of a contentious release. Keep up the good work.
Oof. That's why having a good collection of eartips comes in handy in situations like that. What you described seems easier to fix with long-stemmed eartips. Final type E is long stemmed and they always 'darken' the sound due to the deeper insertion.
I 100% agree on that thing you say about pinning the iems inside and it sounds better. Ive experience that on Audio Technica ath 300 I need to push the cups inside and It sound 95% better with a good amount of bass.
It was only yesterday that I finally tried the small silicon tips with my ie900 and it was a revelation. Deeper insertion and a better seal solved the inconsistent sound I was experiencing
I think the helmholtz resonator is not new at all in iems. not just the aful magicone, but even moondrop blessing and project red and many other hybrids with DDs. just look at the tubes going out from the single dd on the blessing, with one branch going out to the rear chamber. that is a helmholtz resonator. although using the resonator specifically to achieve a midbass scoop could be new on the singolo.
Simple : People who have sat with this as just another iem have hated it or considered it meh.. People who have listened to it thinking it's a 'crinacle iem' have loved it because it's their duty to shill..
Glad fit issues are being addressed. Unlike apple earbud style designs that are more universal, iem fits are pretty subjective. I had the same problem with the 7hz Sonus so I returned them.
5:45 As soon as you cannot fit the stock tips that the product got tuned with, the problems start. That means that whatever tip you used has different properties to achieve the seal / fit and will change sound significantly.
This further proves the concept that universal iems are so hard to be done right for everyone. I bought the Singololololo, and I don’t have any resonance peaks at all, with quite a shallow insertion depth actually.
@@Spike626721 I use jvc spiral dot on my set, eletech baroque works for me too. I think personally I just got the right combination between iem shape, tips, and ear canal.
Finally, fit has been recognised as an important issue. For me, it is the most important issue. Luckily, the current Sennheiser IE range is the most comfortable fit that I have found and therefore with my IE600’s I don’t need to look at IEM’s anymore.
I have this issue with the EM6L. I finally had some success getting a seal using the Spinfit W1 tips, but the tips slide off the nozzle on occasion so I just gave up using them.
Good review. These things are definitely important to consider, and it’s beneficial to explain why something may not sounds good to you, rather than a blanket statement. Mine is still in transit, so I look forward to seeing how it works for me. I also find it funny that every reviewer plays with the name, lol. Even some who are trying to play it straight (even crin) still end up mispronouncing it slightly since they put the emphasis on the “o”, when the “i” is supposed to be the vowel that’s emphasized. Pronounced like Sìn-go-lo
As a review *site* and retailer, I think this is a good example of where it helps to have multiple reviewers. I appreciate a review that it’s just blowing smoke looking to drive hype. But I do think that if this was from the perspective of two reviewers, we’d get a lot more info about the IEM itself (from someone who had a good seal) and then at the end put a YMMV disclaimer & ding it for potential for issues.
6:50 This happens to my left ear when wearing the Waner set with the largest tips, it slightly slides out and creates an imbalance seal which creates a weird feeling and also imbalance in sound. Heres a tip for a much better seal without pushing the nozzles in your ear canal and having them slide out. Wear them like regular ear buds lol (dont use the ear hooks over your ears) you dont even have to push them in deep just put them in and it creates a good seal, but this works for me because I dont move around much while sitting down.
Very nice review, thanks Resolve. The fit issue and canal differences can be a make or break, so it's good to hear the "buyer beware" just in case. For me the fit issue has been with Dunu SA6 MkII, Divinus tips seem to be the only ones that help, all others allow the IEM to sit in such a manner that little wing tip start to cause pain. I've never before had the problem with these semi-custom IEM bodies.
Yes…….. I’ll sit up and pay attention when a reviewer talks about the shape and fit. I have also invest in more tips to try on my existing iem. For new iem, I’ll make sure the nozzle are not large. 😂 I enjoyed the review. 😮
I have the same fit issue with the Kiwi Ears Cadenza, they don't fit my ears correctly with any of the tips and they're the only ones I own with this issue (or that have it this bad), and I own like 10-15 IEMs (I lost count)
Is the length mode issue a problem with too little ear volume or too much? If it is too little, is it solvable with using long triple flange tips? I'm asking generally, not specifically with regard to this set. I've personally found that triple flange tips consistently work well for me on most iems I've tried.
I agree, while IEM's can be quite revealing getting that seal can be difficut. Recently found Whizzer tips well suited to a longer nozzle for fit and comfort. I have a question for you - If you only have a midfi or could be lofi setup, will you notice any difference between DCA Aeon 2 or the Drop X Aeon. Is there significant sound field variation to warrant the more expensive option.
Is that still there when you switch to some longer eartips? A double or narrow triple flange solved this for me. (Not in this IEM though) So this might be good for you too, worth a try at least :)
I too am in the same situation, feeling like I need to physically hold them in place to get them to sound right. I've had to revert to foam tips otherwise to get anywhere near a "normal" seal. To me the fit is kind of like the battle I had with the Blon 03 a couple years ago. It's like the nozzle seems to be too short, but also at a weird angle. Not sure if they look that way, but that's how they feel in ear.
Very Interesting video, one of the reason I fell in love with the Blessing 2 was the fit in my ear as so far it fits my ear the best of any IEM I have tried. The IE600 comes close and I prefer the sound but still not as good fit wise.
Need help, im going to buy my first ever iem; 1. Truthear hexa vs zero red, which is better for music listening? 2. Truthear hexa vs this kiwi singolo?
I have an almos exact experience with the Singolo. The included tips will not fit my ears at all regardless of the size. They just keep coming out. Had to use the Softears UC tips to get an acceptable seal which I still get the similar sound experience as you did. Thought I was alone at first hahaha
This is clearly a good attempt to provide information and insight into the community as always. Given that, please consider telling us what sources and music you are using to make your evaluations. You are extremely thorough and putting grants and measurements. In fact, several different types of measurements yet we have no idea if you are running this out of an apple dongle or high end dap nor what music you are playing
I have that listed up on the forum. I use the Vioelectric HPA V550 and matrix x sabre pro. For music, I have a varied playlist, but I personally enjoy jazz most of all.
I can see it just being a tip issue, you will almost certainly find some tips that allow a good response...... But it definitely sucks to just not have those tips
resolve actually looks like he's having fun during this video... not sure if he's happy to be proven right about iem flaws or if he's just laughing about singololo the whole time
Fit is definitely a big issue, I have not used a lot of IEM's but I really like the moondrop Chu 2 in that regard. Even if the nozzle is chunkier which I actually got used to after a while, it sits well enough. Ear shapes are different so it's definitely a big factor.
This fit thing is indeed my biggest gripe with IEMs. I like my Arias, but they tire me out after an hour, compared to my ibasso IT01 that I can use for hours on end. And still, I'm dying to get the new Dusk
U need to find the right ear tips, with the right size. If the iem doesn’t go deep and stays intact, choose a smaller size ear tip. I find the spinfit W1 eartips pretty good especially for short nozzles iems. Try to get different ear tips from different brands. There will be one to suit your ear.
Really wish the nozzle was not so large. I find that a lot of the chifi iems have unreasonable nozzle sizes for my ears personally. Sad this seems to affect the sound
What i like about IEM is 99% of them always sound different depending on how you insert it, how your ear moves just a tiny bit every day and if you accdently toutch the cable and it moves a bit lol It's very convenient.
That's why spin fit tips have been invented... Although some iems include horrible tips in the box recently (I'm looking at you moondrop may! they don't even fit on the nozzle!)
Hexa over the Singolo? Isn’t the Hexa super tame in the bass region? And the EML6 are $110… This video feels more like a complaint than a review. Thanks for bringing attention to the fitment issues but as someone relatively new to the super bloated iem market, I wished you could’ve mentioned more similar priced alternatives.
What is misleading is that giant header saying "Subwoofer?" on his video for this one. It has absolutely nothing to do with a real subwoofer. It is obvious and misleading clickbait.
Pretty much exactly my experience, right down to the tips being terrible. Almost aways included tips are too small for me, so this isn't unusual in my experience. The Singolo has been a real lesson on how important fit is to sound quality for an IEM. I used my 14mm tips, (manufacturers please note), by twisting the IEM and moving it around I found a good seat in my ear and after EQ they sound pretty nice. Cleaner and tighter than the similar sounding Kiwi Ears Cadenza. The included cable is pretty awful. Especially disappointing considering the cheaper Cadenza includes a much nicer cable. In my opinion, the raison d'tre for the Singolo worked; the shape not so much. I hope there is a version 2 with more attention paid to fitting humans. OEM's should take notes from that Trillion dollar company in California on how to fit ears and design to a sound target for the mass market and not a few in house testers. Just a suggestion.
I had the same experience with fit and tips on the phoenixcall , i like the sound but I can clearly hear a differrent with the stock tips or other tips. Im senstivie to treble so this could be a factor that I can hearthe difference clearly. But yea would rather prefer a fit like the Seeaudio Bravery SE that doesnt have kirk to go out of my ear by itself xD And I prefer to tape the Airhole on my EA500 because it gets to lose and I lose much of the Details because of it.
I use a similar silicon, but I put a small amount into some final type e tips, I put the tips on the iem, then flip the tip inside out, put a small ring of the silicon around the type e’s stem. I then flip the tip back and put the iems in my ear as normal. I hold them I my ears and apply a little pressure to the rear of the iem with my finger, and keep my mouth slightly open and wait for 10 mins for the silicon to set. I then have custom moulded very comfortable tips. I do this on all iems and have no fit issues anymore. This brought a lot of bass for me so I suspect I never got proper seal with any iem before doing this.
Italian: Mio caro questa è un' impresa impossibile purtroppo, mettiamoci il cuore in pace: non son questi i posti dove far conoscere la nostra cultura. Dove predominano gli stereotipi e le maldicenze, il solo atto di informare e cercar di correggere inesattezze verrebbe preso come un insulto, proprio come quando si prova a spiegare che "salami" è plurale e che il concetto di "pepperoni" in Italia nemmeno esiste. Una breve riflessione sul perché giungo a questa conclusione. Il marketing audio internazionale ha sempre avuto il vizio di utilizzare (ahimè) spudoratamente quelli che son i nomi di compositori e persone illustri o di rilevanza storica... o più semplicemente la lingua medesima: l' unica differenza è che adesso, più recentemente coll'aggiungersi del mercato chi-fi in questo circolo vizioso preesistente (non per dire che loro l'abbiano causato, o che siano stati i primi) subentrano ora non solo una "maggior alienazione" nei confronti delle lingue che non conoscono o che non hanno mai sentito pronunciare (che però comunque, insistono ad impiegare), ma anche un'abitudine alla superficialità o far le cose a metà (appunto, il "consumo di massa"). Più nello specifico, forse non si sente la necessità d'informarsi conoscendo i propri consumatori: nessun rischio di far cattive figure, se non urta le vendite allora il problema non sussiste. I responsabili marketing di Kiwi-Ears hanno scelto di non informarsi sulla corretta pronuncia parole, per loro straniere, prese in prestito: Audio, IEMs, chi-fi son sempre cose molto di nicchia, non si corre il rischio di far gaffe su larga scala. Ora, circa la situazione Crin quantomeno ha ammesso che non ne fosse a conoscenza e si è corretto, pure scusandosi, in un commento fissato ("pinned") sotto il proprio video (a parte questo, ho modo di credere lui rispetti e sia SINCERAMENTE interessato alla nostra cultura) e comunque, non era una sua responsabilità: gli addetti al marketing per Kiwi-Ears avrebbero potuto informarsi e precisargli la corretta pronuncia prima che lui pubblicasse un video promozionale per il loro prodotto. Bastava un piccolo sforzo e riflettere sulle problematiche comuni all'utilizzo di parole straniere, facile quindi giungere alla saggia conclusione di includere l'accento nella stampa della confezione: "Sìngolo" anziché "Singolo". È loro il prodotto, quindi sarebbe compito loro occuparsi anche di queste faccende più specifiche e situazionali: un minimo di considerazione anche su questi aspetti testimoniano la professionalità di una compagnia, pertanto fare un buon lavoro da questo punto di vista non può che influire positivamente sulla buona immagine della loro attività commerciale. Al giorno d'oggi (ritengo) un possibile acquirente non si scoraggia tanto per la provenienza di un prodotto, quello che porta la gente prematuramente ad etichettare un prodotto come "chi-fi", ma piuttosto percepire o meno la presenza di "cura" nel tenere tutte queste cose in considerazione: una forma di "maturità" commerciale. Insomma, mettiamoci il cuore in pace siccome meglio spiegare queste cose ai nostri amici e conoscenti che vivono dall' altra parte del mondo, piuttosto che in circostanze di marketing, consumo di massa: anche colle migliori delle intenzioni e maniere, la gente non ha pazienza per questo. Non che io voglia dirti quello che dovresti fare, ma piuttosto, giusto per risparmiarti mortificazioni e stress inutili. Stammi bene 🤝 English translation: Mamma mia! Pizza pepperoni, spaghetti ketchup, Alfredo sauce! "Capeesh"? 🤌 (just kidding, hit the handy "translate" button, sorry can't be arsed)
@@terryss95 Ma no, vai tranquillo, nessuna mortificazione, alla fine siamo nella sezione commenti di youtube e non pretendo certo di cambiare il mondo da qua: se poi, grazie al mio commento, un paio di stranieri iniziano a pronunciare la parola nel modo corretto allora tanto meglio, altrimenti pazienza
Just from the looks of it, this still looks like it'll give me a better fit than the TruthEar Zero / Red, which is one of the most uncomfortable IEMs ever for me.
My "issue" with such audio coverage is this. For this specific IEM - you call it as you see it. It doesn't work for you. I'm completely fine on that point, that's honesty. Best policy. But this is a double-edged sword in our genre. My next comments aren't against this channel alone - as it says below. Many of you (YT audio reviewers) say fekk all about countless IEM's that could easily suffer the same fate as this colab. Yet the videos never see light of day. In that circumstance, a channel sits in silence and says nothing. It's underhand and isn't transparent. Normally I'm more positive and upbeat. But the practice I describe is not only immoral, it's not at all valuable and ethical in the genre you're amassing followers within. I'm sure for many of the oldest viewers watching this, you can already instantly think of many IEM's where influencers stay silent and don't release a review. I think you can all see my point here. It's not criticism in a video that I'm talking about - it's a clear decision to not make a video at all. I also acknowledge you'll also see content where a YT channel will say from time to time, that they may not create a video. But, comments aside - a cool vid, and a like from me. I hope the YT influences who have been guilty of staying silent and not filming a "this is a sub-standard IEM" review - work more openly in 2024 to those they ask to like/share/comment/subscribe. A much more interesting year ahead we'd have lol. Crin can be brutal, and he has the biggest following, I wonder if there's a link lol...
The problem is exactly that - there are countless IEMs. Reviewers generally only review what's sent to them. And of what's sent to them, not everything can get reviewed because there's only so many hours in a day. While there are some people that do YT reviews as a full-time job, a lot more do it as a hobby on the side and have a traditional day job. You need to prioritize the content you want to make. It's not very interesting nor is it fun to spend time on making videos and measuring random $50 no-name IEMs that no one will remember in a week. Videos and measurements take time to make, ears need time to listen, and thoughts need time to formulate. It's not as simple as opening the box, listening for an hour, then turning on a camera, and spouting off first impressions. Nor would that be a good review in any case. With the Singolo, it's a high-profile product made by one of the biggest names in the hobby. It's an IEM that many people are looking at with interest so it makes sense to cover it.
I had the same problem. I can’t say that I’m just not keen on them, it’s more they are intolerable and give me a headache. Shame as the bass is quite good.
I am surprised any reviewer wants to enter the minefield of collabs. I say this becuase while companies have their CEOs and frontmen to take the heat when products don't perform, I can't think of an audio engineer that has volunteered to come forward and say "Sorry people, my bad.", even when they have careers that don't depend on clicks and views.
I disagree with your recommendation for a harman target compliant iem. Simgot em6l has more higher low mids and slightly lower sub bass. Truthear Nova is much more close to harman target 2019v2. You can check the graphs on crincale's iem comparison tool. But in terms of comfort and fit , simgot eml is better. Truthear nova is chonky and not for small ears or ear entrances.
I think I know the fit issue that resolve try to describe, I also got this issue back with his old kz collab iem on my right ear. i tried every eartip i have to fix it but non of them work at all. And seriously Crin. These gigantic iem nozzle must be stop. it's not good for other 3rd party eartips and comfort is worse to many user imo.
Yes... I am aware it's 'Singolo'. It's just more fun to say Singololo
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@@DANKKrishbeat me to it!
the wololo had me cracking up
The Grufalo 😂
anyway....it's sìngolo, not singòlo
Wow impossible, we're supposed to shill here
💀😂
More like SHRILL here, AM I RIGHT?!
Nozzle measurement should be standard practice for all IEM reviews.
if its too big you can just drop the tips size
not the best solution if you use small tips already
100%
@@sand8908 im pretty sure that the smallest size will always fit, if your ear canal are barely wider than the biggest nozzle then you're not cut out for this hobby to begin with. nozzle diameter is rarely an issue, its the length that influences fit
@@CashPope Nah, for me the Etymotic er2se is much more comfortable than a Truthear zero. The smaller nozzle diameter helps a ton with comfort.
These are by far the most comfortable IEM’s I own. It feels custom fit to my ear, but that obviously is different for everyone.
What are ur thoughts on how it sounds ?
@@samuelthomas2652 meh. I’d love it at $20, like it at $50. At $75 you can do better. I’d buy the Chu 2 and Zero 2 and then have cable or ear tip money to play with.
@samuelthomas2652 sounds mostly average but sub bass is stand out
As soon as i got these in hand i chucked away the eartips that came in the box and put some spinfit CP100 M and got that perfect fit and seal for my ears and honestly have had a good experience with these IEM's
Chunky nozzles don't bother me, short nozzles do.
100% agree
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Absolutely, I love the ie600 but I struggle to maintain a good seal because of those short nozzles
I'm the other way around, I don't mind short nozzles, but my ear canal diameter is small so even with the smallest tips only a select amount of iems fit my ears.
Ladies
I definitely have the same issue. Near impossible to get a proper seal with these IEMS with stock tips, but when I can, it sounds great. Otherwise, it's this weird, shallow fitting, very hollow sound with constant breaks in seal.
The one workaround I've found is to use SpinFit double flange CP240 tips. Works surprisingly well. Perfect seal every time. Just kinda sucks because they're pretty intrusive and probably alter the sound signature a bit, and you still don't get that proper insertion depth.
When I come across IEMs that don't fit properly due to the contour you mentioned, the only tips that work for me are Dunu S&S tips. Out of curiosity, what tips did you try?
They fit my ears very well. I’d say they sound a touch tinny but not unpleasant on the whole. Still they are the least of the 4 Kiwi Ears IEMs I own.
The Age of Empires reference was spotless!
Yeah Empire Ears Odin
Sure raises an interesting point about how useful iem reviews actually are. It took me forever to find a semi decent fit with the hexa.
I guess every review comes with the imaginary disclaimer: "If your ear canal and the fit is similar to the reviewer," *shrug*
You have an important point there, because a few things are not mention on the reviews that turn out to be an issue. With the LetShouer S12 I had a cable issue, first when I listened to a friend's one before mine arrived, the cable would lift up behind my ear the moment it got warmth from my head, irritatingly so, these are things that don't bother other people, and there's quite a few.
appreciate the honesty, especially given that crinacle is your friend. fit is king, tips help, ultimately, a custom fit enclosure cannot be beat, such as the unique melody mest mk2 CIEM - worth every penny
"FAST AND BULBOUS!" As Captain Beefheart said.
Hahahaha! I used to run imto Vanfleet the original Beefheart at Denny’s restaurant off Avenue K in Lancaster California lol! and also know the current Beefheart who was at first the drummer for the band :)
@@MrThacke didn't even know they were still active! :0
It's clearly just bad cause there's no children on the box
What does 7Hz x Crinacle Zero:2 and this one have in common? Both doesn't have children on the box and both got bad review from Andrew. Checkmate atheist.
LOL
Theyre not even children. That would be Loli which they don't use
So this is what depression looks and sounds like. One day Resolve will smile
Mine are on the way. I'm very curious to hear for myself and experiment with different tips. I tend to have good luck squeezing some IEMs into Etymotic style double flanged tips. Also curious as to how they'll fit with some regular old Comply foam tips.
SpinFit CP240 double flange helps fix the seal with these IEMS, currently listening with this configuration. Still sounds kinda harsh to my ears but better seal.
aful magic one also uses wide band notch filter
Is it an acoustic filter? or electrical filter.
Edit: Ah, it seems to be acoustic, but it's a single BA, not DD.
Yeah I had some fit issues when I tried it too. It was ok once i swapped to azla sednaearfit lights, one size larger than i usually use. The azla tips are much longer than the stock tips.
I got my review set yesterday and, fortunately, it fits my ears well. I have been very happy with them so far, but I do agree that it has some weird issues. I too, could not get a good seal with the provided tips. I did find the Azla tips made a vast improvement. Another issue I had was the cable. It was meh at best; a downgrade from others in the price category at worst. Either way, this one looks to be more of a contentious release. Keep up the good work.
Oof. That's why having a good collection of eartips comes in handy in situations like that. What you described seems easier to fix with long-stemmed eartips. Final type E is long stemmed and they always 'darken' the sound due to the deeper insertion.
I 100% agree on that thing you say about pinning the iems inside and it sounds better. Ive experience that on Audio Technica ath 300 I need to push the cups inside and It sound 95% better with a good amount of bass.
Your new meta was exactly my experience with the IE600 till I found suitable tips. Only real time I have ever experienced that.
It was only yesterday that I finally tried the small silicon tips with my ie900 and it was a revelation. Deeper insertion and a better seal solved the inconsistent sound I was experiencing
We need a post credits scene where you smile.
It’d be nice if more IEM manufacturers just avoided chonky designs on their *IN-EAR* monitors…
I think the helmholtz resonator is not new at all in iems. not just the aful magicone, but even moondrop blessing and project red and many other hybrids with DDs. just look at the tubes going out from the single dd on the blessing, with one branch going out to the rear chamber. that is a helmholtz resonator. although using the resonator specifically to achieve a midbass scoop could be new on the singolo.
What frequencies did it target on the Red and blessing?
@@roadtonever I guess it might be to achieve low pass, i.e., keeping only the bass and removing all other frequencies
The Letshuoer S12 are within £10 of these on UK Amazon at the moment, just to put it in perspective.
So far, this has absolutely been one of the more polarizing IEMs.
Simple :
People who have sat with this as just another iem have hated it or considered it meh..
People who have listened to it thinking it's a 'crinacle iem' have loved it because it's their duty to shill..
@@rajeebdas1724 - I mean, I'm sitting with it right now and I think they're pretty good? You could also just not generalize, lol
Glad fit issues are being addressed. Unlike apple earbud style designs that are more universal, iem fits are pretty subjective. I had the same problem with the 7hz Sonus so I returned them.
Resolve is the most trustworthy content creator I know of.
Thanks for the honesty as always.
5:45 As soon as you cannot fit the stock tips that the product got tuned with, the problems start.
That means that whatever tip you used has different properties to achieve the seal / fit and will change sound significantly.
This further proves the concept that universal iems are so hard to be done right for everyone. I bought the Singololololo, and I don’t have any resonance peaks at all, with quite a shallow insertion depth actually.
Which ear tips did you use?
@@Spike626721 I use jvc spiral dot on my set, eletech baroque works for me too. I think personally I just got the right combination between iem shape, tips, and ear canal.
Finally, fit has been recognised as an important issue. For me, it is the most important issue. Luckily, the current Sennheiser IE range is the most comfortable fit that I have found and therefore with my IE600’s I don’t need to look at IEM’s anymore.
What about technical ability of this set when you insert them farther into your ear canals?
I have this issue with the EM6L. I finally had some success getting a seal using the Spinfit W1 tips, but the tips slide off the nozzle on occasion so I just gave up using them.
Good review. These things are definitely important to consider, and it’s beneficial to explain why something may not sounds good to you, rather than a blanket statement. Mine is still in transit, so I look forward to seeing how it works for me.
I also find it funny that every reviewer plays with the name, lol. Even some who are trying to play it straight (even crin) still end up mispronouncing it slightly since they put the emphasis on the “o”, when the “i” is supposed to be the vowel that’s emphasized. Pronounced like Sìn-go-lo
As a review *site* and retailer, I think this is a good example of where it helps to have multiple reviewers. I appreciate a review that it’s just blowing smoke looking to drive hype. But I do think that if this was from the perspective of two reviewers, we’d get a lot more info about the IEM itself (from someone who had a good seal) and then at the end put a YMMV disclaimer & ding it for potential for issues.
6:50 This happens to my left ear when wearing the Waner set with the largest tips, it slightly slides out and creates an imbalance seal which creates a weird feeling and also imbalance in sound. Heres a tip for a much better seal without pushing the nozzles in your ear canal and having them slide out. Wear them like regular ear buds lol (dont use the ear hooks over your ears) you dont even have to push them in deep just put them in and it creates a good seal, but this works for me because I dont move around much while sitting down.
Very nice review, thanks Resolve. The fit issue and canal differences can be a make or break, so it's good to hear the "buyer beware" just in case. For me the fit issue has been with Dunu SA6 MkII, Divinus tips seem to be the only ones that help, all others allow the IEM to sit in such a manner that little wing tip start to cause pain. I've never before had the problem with these semi-custom IEM bodies.
Yes…….. I’ll sit up and pay attention when a reviewer talks about the shape and fit. I have also invest in more tips to try on my existing iem. For new iem, I’ll make sure the nozzle are not large. 😂
I enjoyed the review. 😮
I have the same fit issue with the Kiwi Ears Cadenza, they don't fit my ears correctly with any of the tips and they're the only ones I own with this issue (or that have it this bad), and I own like 10-15 IEMs (I lost count)
Yeah for some reason it just always wants to come out...
Is the length mode issue a problem with too little ear volume or too much? If it is too little, is it solvable with using long triple flange tips? I'm asking generally, not specifically with regard to this set. I've personally found that triple flange tips consistently work well for me on most iems I've tried.
I agree, while IEM's can be quite revealing getting that seal can be difficut. Recently found Whizzer tips well suited to a longer nozzle for fit and comfort. I have a question for you - If you only have a midfi or could be lofi setup, will you notice any difference between DCA Aeon 2 or the Drop X Aeon. Is there significant sound field variation to warrant the more expensive option.
Great honest review! You have just saved me $80, Thank you Sir!
Is that still there when you switch to some longer eartips? A double or narrow triple flange solved this for me. (Not in this IEM though) So this might be good for you too, worth a try at least :)
Didn't expect age of empires reference here, fr
B U L B O U S
I too am in the same situation, feeling like I need to physically hold them in place to get them to sound right. I've had to revert to foam tips otherwise to get anywhere near a "normal" seal. To me the fit is kind of like the battle I had with the Blon 03 a couple years ago. It's like the nozzle seems to be too short, but also at a weird angle. Not sure if they look that way, but that's how they feel in ear.
Very Interesting video, one of the reason I fell in love with the Blessing 2 was the fit in my ear as so far it fits my ear the best of any IEM I have tried. The IE600 comes close and I prefer the sound but still not as good fit wise.
i got em cuz i was hyped, i do like them due to how well they fit and how small they are, but soundwise i expected better
Need help, im going to buy my first ever iem;
1. Truthear hexa vs zero red, which is better for music listening?
2. Truthear hexa vs this kiwi singolo?
Simgot ea500lm for much better technicalities, red for more relaxed sound.
did you try the sedna earfit tips on them?
I have an almos exact experience with the Singolo. The included tips will not fit my ears at all regardless of the size. They just keep coming out. Had to use the Softears UC tips to get an acceptable seal which I still get the similar sound experience as you did. Thought I was alone at first hahaha
This is clearly a good attempt to provide information and insight into the community as always.
Given that, please consider telling us what sources and music you are using to make your evaluations. You are extremely thorough and putting grants and measurements. In fact, several different types of measurements yet we have no idea if you are running this out of an apple dongle or high end dap nor what music you are playing
I have that listed up on the forum. I use the Vioelectric HPA V550 and matrix x sabre pro. For music, I have a varied playlist, but I personally enjoy jazz most of all.
I can see it just being a tip issue, you will almost certainly find some tips that allow a good response......
But it definitely sucks to just not have those tips
resolve actually looks like he's having fun during this video... not sure if he's happy to be proven right about iem flaws or if he's just laughing about singololo the whole time
Fit is definitely a big issue, I have not used a lot of IEM's but I really like the moondrop Chu 2 in that regard. Even if the nozzle is chunkier which I actually got used to after a while, it sits well enough. Ear shapes are different so it's definitely a big factor.
I had this exact issue with the 500 LM. Except pushing them in deeper would just collapse the tips most of the time
Use small sized double flange
@@kawaiikoto8800 long nozzled foams have me the best results
to tame treble resonance (through deeper insertion) and make sure there is a seal, use tips like the spiral dots ++ or final type e.
Noice Unbiased
That fitment issue is the exact same issue I had with the kiwi ears cadenza.
This fit thing is indeed my biggest gripe with IEMs. I like my Arias, but they tire me out after an hour, compared to my ibasso IT01 that I can use for hours on end.
And still, I'm dying to get the new Dusk
U need to find the right ear tips, with the right size. If the iem doesn’t go deep and stays intact, choose a smaller size ear tip. I find the spinfit W1 eartips pretty good especially for short nozzles iems. Try to get different ear tips from different brands. There will be one to suit your ear.
Ear fitment is most definitely an important factor or issue that you should absolutely report on.
How do foam tips work with the unit?
Really wish the nozzle was not so large. I find that a lot of the chifi iems have unreasonable nozzle sizes for my ears personally. Sad this seems to affect the sound
7:28 Same exact issue with the CHU 2 for me. It has all the sound I need out of an IEM, but that bugs me, I can't wear it for long.
Ouch!
You recommending the Em6l over the Singolo must've hurt Crinacle 😅😅
But Crin liked the EM6L?
What i like about IEM is 99% of them always sound different depending on how you insert it, how your ear moves just a tiny bit every day and if you accdently toutch the cable and it moves a bit lol It's very convenient.
I tried the 7Hz Salnotes l & it was so bad that I couldn't imagine getting his tuned one or 2nd one 😮 ❤
6:40 haha this is the best video resolve has ever made 😂👍 maybe this particular IEM is meant to be worn like that.
That's why spin fit tips have been invented...
Although some iems include horrible tips in the box recently (I'm looking at you moondrop may! they don't even fit on the nozzle!)
Hexa over the Singolo? Isn’t the Hexa super tame in the bass region? And the EML6 are $110…
This video feels more like a complaint than a review. Thanks for bringing attention to the fitment issues but as someone relatively new to the super bloated iem market, I wished you could’ve mentioned more similar priced alternatives.
it looks like my old bgvp iem (forgot the type) the nozzle angle it's just not right, i can't get it in to get that sealing effect fit in my ears
Singolo vs EA500....EA500LM vs TinHiFI T5s......your opinion would be most welcomed
They need to redesign the iem shape
For me I had to use flanged tips to get em to stay in my ears because flanged tips just grip way more for my ears at least
Lol that Wololoo at the beginning....lololooo
AoE reference was killer!
What is misleading is that giant header saying "Subwoofer?" on his video for this one. It has absolutely nothing to do with a real subwoofer. It is obvious and misleading clickbait.
Oh no, I have the same ear shape as you. Most IEM sitting outside of my ears and not in.
Fingers on IEMs is my issue with one other collab that I like if pushed in, the Blon JoJo collab with zeos. Those, I bought and just cannot use.
Pretty much exactly my experience, right down to the tips being terrible. Almost aways included tips are too small for me, so this isn't unusual in my experience. The Singolo has been a real lesson on how important fit is to sound quality for an IEM.
I used my 14mm tips, (manufacturers please note), by twisting the IEM and moving it around I found a good seat in my ear and after EQ they sound pretty nice. Cleaner and tighter than the similar sounding Kiwi Ears Cadenza.
The included cable is pretty awful. Especially disappointing considering the cheaper Cadenza includes a much nicer cable.
In my opinion, the raison d'tre for the Singolo worked; the shape not so much. I hope there is a version 2 with more attention paid to fitting humans. OEM's should take notes from that Trillion dollar company in California on how to fit ears and design to a sound target for the mass market and not a few in house testers. Just a suggestion.
I had the same experience with fit and tips on the phoenixcall , i like the sound but I can clearly hear a differrent with the stock tips or other tips. Im senstivie to treble so this could be a factor that I can hearthe difference clearly. But yea would rather prefer a fit like the Seeaudio Bravery SE that doesnt have kirk to go out of my ear by itself xD And I prefer to tape the Airhole on my EA500 because it gets to lose and I lose much of the Details because of it.
Isn't it just like the salnotes zero tuning? But it is too bright?
use molded ear tips using Radians CEP001-R??
I use a similar silicon, but I put a small amount into some final type e tips, I put the tips on the iem, then flip the tip inside out, put a small ring of the silicon around the type e’s stem. I then flip the tip back and put the iems in my ear as normal. I hold them I my ears and apply a little pressure to the rear of the iem with my finger, and keep my mouth slightly open and wait for 10 mins for the silicon to set. I then have custom moulded very comfortable tips. I do this on all iems and have no fit issues anymore. This brought a lot of bass for me so I suspect I never got proper seal with any iem before doing this.
As an italian, I die inside a little every time someone spells "singolo" with an emphasis on the "o" instead of the "i"
@@oftensalty Of course we do, however with don't respond with a combination of whataboutism and passive aggressiveness when someone points that to us
Italian:
Mio caro questa è un' impresa impossibile purtroppo, mettiamoci il cuore in pace: non son questi i posti dove far conoscere la nostra cultura.
Dove predominano gli stereotipi e le maldicenze, il solo atto di informare e cercar di correggere inesattezze verrebbe preso come un insulto, proprio come quando si prova a spiegare che "salami" è plurale e che il concetto di "pepperoni" in Italia nemmeno esiste.
Una breve riflessione sul perché giungo a questa conclusione.
Il marketing audio internazionale ha sempre avuto il vizio di utilizzare (ahimè) spudoratamente quelli che son i nomi di compositori e persone illustri o di rilevanza storica... o più semplicemente la lingua medesima: l' unica differenza è che adesso, più recentemente coll'aggiungersi del mercato chi-fi in questo circolo vizioso preesistente (non per dire che loro l'abbiano causato, o che siano stati i primi) subentrano ora non solo una "maggior alienazione" nei confronti delle lingue che non conoscono o che non hanno mai sentito pronunciare (che però comunque, insistono ad impiegare), ma anche un'abitudine alla superficialità o far le cose a metà (appunto, il "consumo di massa").
Più nello specifico, forse non si sente la necessità d'informarsi conoscendo i propri consumatori: nessun rischio di far cattive figure, se non urta le vendite allora il problema non sussiste. I responsabili marketing di Kiwi-Ears hanno scelto di non informarsi sulla corretta pronuncia parole, per loro straniere, prese in prestito: Audio, IEMs, chi-fi son sempre cose molto di nicchia, non si corre il rischio di far gaffe su larga scala.
Ora, circa la situazione Crin quantomeno ha ammesso che non ne fosse a conoscenza e si è corretto, pure scusandosi, in un commento fissato ("pinned") sotto il proprio video (a parte questo, ho modo di credere lui rispetti e sia SINCERAMENTE interessato alla nostra cultura) e comunque, non era una sua responsabilità: gli addetti al marketing per Kiwi-Ears avrebbero potuto informarsi e precisargli la corretta pronuncia prima che lui pubblicasse un video promozionale per il loro prodotto.
Bastava un piccolo sforzo e riflettere sulle problematiche comuni all'utilizzo di parole straniere, facile quindi giungere alla saggia conclusione di includere l'accento nella stampa della confezione: "Sìngolo" anziché "Singolo".
È loro il prodotto, quindi sarebbe compito loro occuparsi anche di queste faccende più specifiche e situazionali: un minimo di considerazione anche su questi aspetti testimoniano la professionalità di una compagnia, pertanto fare un buon lavoro da questo punto di vista non può che influire positivamente sulla buona immagine della loro attività commerciale.
Al giorno d'oggi (ritengo) un possibile acquirente non si scoraggia tanto per la provenienza di un prodotto, quello che porta la gente prematuramente ad etichettare un prodotto come "chi-fi", ma piuttosto percepire o meno la presenza di "cura" nel tenere tutte queste cose in considerazione: una forma di "maturità" commerciale.
Insomma, mettiamoci il cuore in pace siccome meglio spiegare queste cose ai nostri amici e conoscenti che vivono dall' altra parte del mondo, piuttosto che in circostanze di marketing, consumo di massa: anche colle migliori delle intenzioni e maniere, la gente non ha pazienza per questo.
Non che io voglia dirti quello che dovresti fare, ma piuttosto, giusto per risparmiarti mortificazioni e stress inutili.
Stammi bene 🤝
English translation:
Mamma mia! Pizza pepperoni, spaghetti ketchup, Alfredo sauce! "Capeesh"? 🤌
(just kidding, hit the handy "translate" button, sorry can't be arsed)
@@terryss95 Ma no, vai tranquillo, nessuna mortificazione, alla fine siamo nella sezione commenti di youtube e non pretendo certo di cambiare il mondo da qua: se poi, grazie al mio commento, un paio di stranieri iniziano a pronunciare la parola nel modo corretto allora tanto meglio, altrimenti pazienza
so... you can wear this iem with a winter hat or a headband :-)
Attach them to a sennheiser headband for that perfect clamping force.
Just from the looks of it, this still looks like it'll give me a better fit than the TruthEar Zero / Red, which is one of the most uncomfortable IEMs ever for me.
My "issue" with such audio coverage is this. For this specific IEM - you call it as you see it. It doesn't work for you. I'm completely fine on that point, that's honesty. Best policy. But this is a double-edged sword in our genre. My next comments aren't against this channel alone - as it says below.
Many of you (YT audio reviewers) say fekk all about countless IEM's that could easily suffer the same fate as this colab. Yet the videos never see light of day. In that circumstance, a channel sits in silence and says nothing. It's underhand and isn't transparent. Normally I'm more positive and upbeat. But the practice I describe is not only immoral, it's not at all valuable and ethical in the genre you're amassing followers within.
I'm sure for many of the oldest viewers watching this, you can already instantly think of many IEM's where influencers stay silent and don't release a review. I think you can all see my point here. It's not criticism in a video that I'm talking about - it's a clear decision to not make a video at all. I also acknowledge you'll also see content where a YT channel will say from time to time, that they may not create a video.
But, comments aside - a cool vid, and a like from me. I hope the YT influences who have been guilty of staying silent and not filming a "this is a sub-standard IEM" review - work more openly in 2024 to those they ask to like/share/comment/subscribe. A much more interesting year ahead we'd have lol.
Crin can be brutal, and he has the biggest following, I wonder if there's a link lol...
The problem is exactly that - there are countless IEMs. Reviewers generally only review what's sent to them. And of what's sent to them, not everything can get reviewed because there's only so many hours in a day. While there are some people that do YT reviews as a full-time job, a lot more do it as a hobby on the side and have a traditional day job. You need to prioritize the content you want to make. It's not very interesting nor is it fun to spend time on making videos and measuring random $50 no-name IEMs that no one will remember in a week. Videos and measurements take time to make, ears need time to listen, and thoughts need time to formulate. It's not as simple as opening the box, listening for an hour, then turning on a camera, and spouting off first impressions. Nor would that be a good review in any case. With the Singolo, it's a high-profile product made by one of the biggest names in the hobby. It's an IEM that many people are looking at with interest so it makes sense to cover it.
Is it better than the Chopin
I had the same problem. I can’t say that I’m just not keen on them, it’s more they are intolerable and give me a headache. Shame as the bass is quite good.
hilo
Such a noob, I permanently have 2 butlers with me keeping IEMs in my ears whenever I use them.
The only eartips I could get a good fit with is Dunu S&S, sound is ok but no real sense of the subwoofer tuning, my Symphonium meteor hits harder
phew thanks for saving me money.
I am surprised any reviewer wants to enter the minefield of collabs. I say this becuase while companies have their CEOs and frontmen to take the heat when products don't perform, I can't think of an audio engineer that has volunteered to come forward and say "Sorry people, my bad.", even when they have careers that don't depend on clicks and views.
I disagree with your recommendation for a harman target compliant iem. Simgot em6l has more higher low mids and slightly lower sub bass. Truthear Nova is much more close to harman target 2019v2. You can check the graphs on crincale's iem comparison tool.
But in terms of comfort and fit , simgot eml is better. Truthear nova is chonky and not for small ears or ear entrances.
I think I know the fit issue that resolve try to describe, I also got this issue back with his old kz collab iem on my right ear. i tried every eartip i have to fix it but non of them work at all. And seriously Crin. These gigantic iem nozzle must be stop. it's not good for other 3rd party eartips and comfort is worse to many user imo.
Singololo 🎶 😂
6:40 is my issue with 70% of iems lol