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That’s one thing I always loved about The Outlaw Josie Wales, pulling his cap and ball revolvers out of everywhere
yes! Very "confederate guerilla" thing to do.
Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie? ... classic line.
How many guns did Clint have on him in that one again, four, five or more? At the very least three.
Viking Shaman I don’t remember exactly, but your right, at least three
@@vikingshaman3079 Looked to me like two Colt Walkers, a Colt .36 Police model, and a .31 pocket pistol in a shoulder rig
Imagin carrying 3 or 4 revolvers. Civil war photos have shown that.
Yes. Confederate guerillas would do that so they didn't have to reload during an attack.
Vuk Man yep that’s what inspired the outlaw josey Wales if I had to take a guess
Weight & cost aside, I would think a person could pick up as many guns as they wanted, after a battle.
@@xzqzq Absolutely
@@xzqzq If the law got involved then they would frown upon that behavior. Sometimes the guns were sent back to the family of the deceased or auctioned off.
Due to my colder weather coat choice.went with the cross draw carry choice.(normal own 4oclock position). after some safe draw practice.i found it to work pretty good.and my accuracy in draw and fire practice.was about equal to my normal own 4 position carry.learning how not to sweep during draw.was actually not to bad of a learning curve.
Good that you like it, though
The Calvary draw works well for a straight drop holster with a retention strap. Being a lefty I had to carry like that a time or two early in my LE career with left handed holsters not being common. As you said - it's practice. Another thing I learned was to draw from the right and palm to the left. Good video. You got me hankering for more.
Do you have a video out on the palming method? I'd like to see that. Sounds interesting.
@@ArizonaGhostriders I did one where used that technique to get the gun out of the holster, but didn't elaborate. I''ll see if I can find it. It is pretty simple. You draw with the right and go into an isosceles stance pushing the gun into your left hand as you extend.
@@ArizonaGhostriders This guy shows the transition from left hand to right hand: th-cam.com/video/WyG8cJBPS84/w-d-xo.html . It starts at about 2:40.
My Father was a Texas Ranger and he was the best quick draw in the world until he past away . I personally saw him draw and fire from the hip shoot an oyster can small oyster can at 25 ft away he practice all the time up until his 70s
Very cool!! Thanks for sharing.
Nope, sorry. Bill Paxton was the fastest Texas ranger. Just listen to the song
sorry but i dont know if i trust you
Idk… those Arizona Rangers seem awfully fast as well
Thanks for all the history you do. I love the old stories and am amazed my ancestors survived any of it to eventually produce me.
You're welcome.
Japan has the samurai, Europe has the Knight, America has the Cowboy...Always loved anything pertaining to the old west.
Yes! The icons of our world.
I knew an old deputy sheriff here in southern WV that has actually carried a little gun in a hat. He was one of those fellas who always packed a bunch of guns.
Also, FWIW, I like that butt forward Calvary draw. It keeps me from printing when I bend forward. Thanks for the videos.
:-) You're welcome.
As a long time lover of old west Aesthetic and only recently getting into the real history, I think I’m gonna like this channel
Oh, you are gonna LOVE this channel. :-)
Check out Drew Gomber.
Hey Santee! Unlike Hollywood's gritty glamorizing of the Old West I believe the general rule of thumb back then was never carry a gun if you were hesitant to use it when someone threatened your life. If you drew on a man (or a woman) you better be prepared to shoot first and ask questions (if possible) later on! Thanks for another great video. Take care & God bless!
True. Having your life threatened then was justifiable homicide. Nowadays you get prison time.
As a non American, I've always found impressive how Hollywood completely changed the way you see your past. Movies have created so powerful an alternate reality it has affected your own memory and imposed inaccurate codes and fashions.
Some movies and video games do elaborate. WWII, Western, Medieval, pretty much every historic era. Here we can show you what they got right and wrong.
Man.. Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday.. historical accuracy aside, it's probably one of the greatest acting performances of all time.. without question one of the most memorable.. 👍👌✌
You're right.
This probably my favorite channel at the moment
Glad to hear it.
I've always loved the old west and of course Tombstone is my favorite movie, doc with his shoulder rig always awesome. Love the videos they are always fun and informative. I would love to try reenactment but never got around to trying. I practice quick draw all the time but I can't twirl a six gun worth a darn.😄 lived in Tucson for 18 years and always loved going to tombstone to see the shootout reenactments. Cheers from surprise Arizona 🍻👍😎
Thank you so much!
My late father was a Border Patrol man in the 1930's through the late 40's. He was a south paw, and carried a Tom Three Persons holster for his Colt .45 New Service 5 & 1/2 inch revolver. The holster was made by S.D. Meyers of El Paso, Texas. It rode high on his left hip, and had a back rake, if I've got the words right. Muzzle pointed to the back a bit.
I think "cant" is the word, but I got your meaning, Fred. Thanks!
Hardin was actually reported to have carried a pair of Colt Lightnings in his trouser pockets, muzzles up and butts forward. His draw technique was to pinch the barrels between his finger & thumb, pull the pistols up and out of the pockets, then toss them over and catch them by the handles. And supposedly, he could do this VERY quickly. (leather lining in the pockets would certainly have helped.) Definitely would get you a safety disqualification in ANY shooting event today... but I suppose the old west gunfighters weren't quite as concerned about such things as we are, huh?
Yeah, I guess they would just laugh at the word "disqualified" and all the rules we have today.
Thanks for watching, Dale.
Actually, the whole idea of a duel - with 2 men facing off - is a Hollywood invention. A speed draw isn't how you'd want to dependably end the life of an opponent. Shooting them in the back - with a shotgun - is more of a "slam dunk" than all of the methods seen in this video.
However, the chance of catching your front sight on yore britches and blowing your junk away is actually more likely. Holsters were not common, and to be able to perform a speed draw takes practice; LOTS of practice - and you have to keep up the practice. The regular cowboy had other stuff to do besides rescue Hollywood's arse. Believe Clint Eastwood's "Unforgiven" over a Roy Rogers or a Hopalong Cassidy movie. Fortune passes everywhere.
@@DavidSmith-ss1cg : Yes, we all know this. However, being fast (ESPECIALLY from concealment) would still give you the advantage of surprise in many situations... and Hardin was known to use every advantage he could get. As noted, he once killed a man in his sleep, for snoring too loud.
@@dalekidd420 I guess you could say that Hardin had a permanent cure for snoring.
I just want to appreciate Mr. Kilmer.... 2 gun twirl with shotglass on finger, if whiskey was in probably wouldn't have spilled enough for a gnat to get drunk... bravo. And many thanks as always Santee!
J.W.Hardin is one of my favorites btw.
COol! Thanks.
Howdy Guys, awesome videos. As a guy just getting started with old west reenactment I'm really learning a lot here!
Best wishes from Germany!
Awesome! Thank you! Danke!
Long ago on a planet far--far away, the "Paladin" rig was my favorite!
With the Knight on it!
The reverse draw is also theoretically faster than a strong side draw if the barrel is longer than about five inches.
Maybe. I urge folks to try it. It really feels kinda natural.
@@ArizonaGhostriders There aren't any within a reasonable distance from me, so I don't know first hand, but I've heard most cowboy action shooting groups won't let you use it in competition for "safety reasons".
Hickok used the reverse draw pretty much exclusively, and was probably the deadliest gunfighter of all next to J.W. Hardin. I suppose that speaks pretty authoritatively on it's functionality.
@@dalekidd420 Especially since Hardin having a higher body count doesn't necessarily mean he was more skilled. Never heard of Hickok killing a man for snoring.
@@Devin_Stromgren : The combination of his explosive temper and his skills as a pistolero made him a man much feared.
There's another aspect of the Old West that I find very interesting, how folks carried sidearms.
Still applies,
Great episode Santee 👻🦕
Thank you!
Another great video and I learned something new about lining your pockets with leather. As a writer that’s the sorta of nuance I love to learn about.
So, another commenter said they did that in Europe with buckskin to line it. I think it also has do do with the weight of the pistol. A full size Colt would be clumsy no matter how much leather is in the pocket.
As a leather crafter, I use suede for linings because it tends to wear less.
From what I've read, many towns would not allow someone to open carry, so the pocket carry was much more common than you might think.
Dodge City, Tombstone were the ones we associate with that law because we've seen it in movies. I know some big towns that didn't, so I think there was a mix.
people were still carrying, but as robert heinlein said, an armed society is a polite society. they were polite because they didn't know who's packin'.
Anyone else almost miss the T-Rex? Fun and informative video. Thumbs up.
Thank you!
Good show Santee! I am not a fan of a gun pointed at the baby maker either😂👍🇺🇸
HAHAAH!
Dolly Parton in 9 to 5. I can turn you from a rooster to a hen in one shot !
@@victorwaddell6530 lol😂👍🇺🇸
Yeah, you don't want to go off half cocked.
@@WhaleGold 😂
This channel is so informative when it comes to research for short films. Brilliant!
Wow, thanks!
Due to injuries I have from my last trip to the Sandbox, I've had to adjust must carry method. It is now left-side shoulder carry. I used to right hip carry. I wonder how many post Civil War men had to adjust their methods due to injuries. I can also imagine that many had to for reasons outside of war action.
That would be a good video on inured vets' carry methods. Thank you for your service and glad you don't have to go back over there!
@@ArizonaGhostriders I really was not suggesting a topic, but I am flattered you think a worth while subject.
The strong side carry should provably be split into 2 different types, 3 o'clock and 2 o'clock (i.e. OWB appendix carry.) The man at the far right at 00:17 and the the guy on the left, opposite Billy the Kid, at 00:36 are carrying this way. Form follows function. What's old is new again. Also, With the cavalry carry method, this is a function of having the option of duel wielding a saber in the right hand, and a pistol in the left when dismounted. The result is you can easily draw with either hand if necessary.
We don't know if John Selman (the one on the left) really carried that forward of his hip or if he was doing that for the photo to show off his sidearm, but these are great points and history. Thanks!
BTW, John Selman shot John Wesley Hardin who is mentioned later in the video.
i like the cavalry carry because you can draw either gun with either hand, and for sitting in armchairs you can slide 'em forward for sitting crossdraws!
WOMEN CARRY METHODS .. MY GRANDMA HAD HOLSTER BUILT INTO HER PURSE AND MUFF FOR WINTER USE AND OF COURSE LEG HOLSTER FOR UNDER A DRESS .. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Awesome!
Santee, 'just got my first holster today, I chose to wear it like the cavalry draw, I'm looking forward to wearing it A LOT!
Congrats!! Hope you have fun with it.
Good video sir! I've made several holsters for buddies, for both revolvers&semi autos,...pocket, belt, or shoulder holsters. I charge in ammo, not money, we're all happy with the arrangement.
That's awesome! Like it?
Arizona Ghostriders I like historical information&your videos bring it. Thanks.
Love the video. I prefer reverse and the double cross draw. I use to do Confederate Cavalry and Confederate Guerrilla units, so we carried multiple revolvers. The double cross draw was accomplished by sliding the holsters more forward and slanting them a little more. I also wore a shoulder holster on occasion as well. I primarily carried the 1851 Colt Navy revolvers.
Nice info, Eric. Thanks for adding it and a personal experience!
@Robert Williamson my favorites.
I love your videos 😍 a subscriber all the way from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Wow, thank you
@@ArizonaGhostriders I wish I could see your shows 😭 I won't lie I started to researching about the wild west because of red dead redemption 2 😅 and I must say that the American frontier is a really interesting part of the American history.
El Paso Saddlery actually made holsters for some of the old West Legends... And remember, Speed is Deadly... Accuracy is Fatal... Good stuff, thanks for posting.
I have owned a rig from them.
@@ArizonaGhostriders They have made some great stuff for me. Thanks for taking the time to get back to me...
Great vid guys! Gonna binge watch fer a bit!
Thank you!
I feel like you're pushing me to finish up some holsters and make some more! Thanks, that's what I really need! Great video Santee!
Right on...you can do it!
One of these days I'd like to try my hand at leather, but damn I'm always busy. Guess I'll just keep watching you fellas 🤠
@@jerseyred9554 LOL!
I live at Deadwood about a mile from where Hickock is buried. I have heard that the Army used the cavalry draw for its troopers as it would prevent the soldier from shooting his own horse in the head. Cowboys often wore their revolvers butt forward in a cross-draw. The few who actually wore two guns considered the second gun to be a backup and not for simultaneous fire. And the low-slung buscadero rigs were an invention of Hollywood in the 1920s and were not a part of the Old West. Costner's movie "Wyatt Earp" was good, but it was a major error to have him wear a buscadero outfit as such was unknown to Earp or anyone else in the Old West of the day. The guns were worn high on the hip and later movies have shown the gunbelts and holsters correctly.
Yeah, the buscadero ruined it for me.
2:56 imagine you're a sherriff and you're trying to help your deputies fix their revolver but accidentally pull the trigger
Yup....ouch
Well we forget that a lot of folks were killed by pistols that were dropped.
I looked over the police deaths from gunfire in my state and there were years that more police were shot by dropped or slam fired weapons than during shoot outs.
Transfer bars in revolvers saved a lot of folks over the years..
I carry 2 guns with my period garb but I carry one in a cross draw and one in a straight draw, both for righthand draw. It's a period carry style I have seen often, especially in the cap and ball era which is what I carry
That's pretty cool, Jordan
@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks Santee!
Thanks for the history lesson, Santee !!!!!!!!! Also stay safe out their everybody !!!!!!!!!!
You bet!
Hosea, and Dutch in RDR2 actually use that draw (1:58). Man all the little details on that game, and Santee I'm really happy I found your channel because of it.
Thank you. You're right. They did a lot of research.
1:55 ~ Growing up, I heard it called _The Kentucky Draw._
Loved the vid., Santee. Keep up the great work.
There's a new one! Thanks.
I've also heard it called a twist-draw
@@ArizonaGhostriders
You're Welcome. *:)*
One explanation I'd heard from a black powder shooter, was on a single shot flintlock/percussion pistol, keeping gun butt forward on right hip better protected lock work from elements. He referred to paintings and sketches of armed people from that era. Habits, techniques may have evolved in to revolver/cartridge era.
@@doraran2138 I've also noticed its easier to draw a longer barreled revolver (like an 8" barrel colt army) from a butt-forward orientation if you have the holster higher up on your hip. Greater range of motion
Dallas Stoudenmire was known to have his pants pockets sown with oiled leather & have his gun barrels shaved down whereas he could draw & shoot fast. John Wesley Hardin was known to have sown holsters on each side of his vest so he that could draw fast in a cross draw.
Good extra info. Wish those articles of clothing still existed so we knew for sure.
I always thought a Derringer in a girl's black leg garter looked the best.
:-)
Well, our dear Tika, from our own reenactment group, was more than willing to put that theory to the test here - imgur.com/a/e3ccCM1
@@notfeedynotlazy Now thats a girl who could brighten up any saloon.
"is that your derringer or are you just happy to see me?"
ooooh, that sparks some intrigue
Bought a couple newer motorcycle jackets a few years ago that had factory gun pockets. Didn't know they were there until I found pistol shaped cardboard inserts inside that were labelled: "gun pocket." The Old West lives on!
Yeah it does! Just iron horses now.
@@ArizonaGhostriders yessir!
Wait....that's what that's for? Ha, no wonder that pocket is sideways. Never knew.
fastest draw I've ever seen was like 50 years ago. the guy wore his pistol at about belt buckle position, nealy straight across, with just a little tilt. They did not have the high tech timing they do now back then, but he could draw, cock and fire his pistol, even hitting the balloon target with a wax bullet, in less time than a trained stunt man could simply pull the trigger on a cocked gun. I'm sure the time would have been as fast or faster than anything seen today, if the timing mechanisms were available. They only had analog back then, and all we could tell was he could draw cock and fire and reholster before a second ticked off the clock.
Couple of these guys can do under a quarter of a second. Crazy.
@@ArizonaGhostriders no way to know for certain, but I'll bet this guy was that fast. Just a blur, really.
One great historical fact is most didn’t wear a holster. They wore them for photos n such to be fancy but most of the time their pistol or pistols stayed in their saddle bags. They mostly used a rifle. When they would go into say a town they’d mostly just stick a pistol in their belt. Think about it. Makes perfect sense. If u gotta choice to use a rifle or pistol out on the range or in the mountains, ur gonna use a rifle. Now when u go into a town ur still gonna use ur rifle but you’ll stick a pistol in ur belt. Close range. I’d say some wore those rigs but most didn’t. I know if I was alive back then I wouldn’t want anyone to know I was packing. Same as today.
Many towns had an ordinance about guns and concealment was key if you feared for your life. Historical photo evidence shows us men wearing holsters at their jobs or in town (and not just a studio shot), so we know they were worn. Also, museums have many examples of gunleather from the era.
The rifle was definitely a plus for the outdoorsman.
What is it about getting older and falling in love with the old west. When I was younger I lived in Tuscan and had zero interest. Now I can’t stop thinking about it.
It's an appreciation for history, I think. We get it as we age.
im 15 and i already have it so early... man.
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Thank you Santee for sharing another great video ! In these hard times I need to get my mind off of the world and go somewhere else. Thank you !
You're welcome!
In the movies you sometimes see guns hung low on the thigh, usually two gun, especially in the old Spagetti Westerns. That's strictly a Hollywood invention, however it does work
We're gonna talk about that today on the live stream.
Your channel has been the primary factor in my ever increasing interest in this rich era of American history. I absolutely love your channel Santee, and really appreciate the efforts you've put into these videos as well as responding to your viewers. :) I'll watch as long as you make these videos.
Wow, thank you! Much appreciated.
Trinity Terrence hill “those backwards guns really scare me, only real tough guys carry them like that”
HA!
Like David Carradine in Kill Bill 😄
Thanks for the video keeps me sane during these crazy times. You all take care now.
Thanks, you too!
Looks like a couple of those methods of carry were definitely trial and error!
yep
Great vid, Santee. Awesome vid, something I’ve been very curious about outside of the “typical” gun belts! Thanks for the livestream with Drew!
You're welcome!
I have a question concerning holsters. On the the movie Tombstone you see the Earps riding around with shot guns strapped across their saddle horns. I have tried to get a closer look at these and have not seen any other similar rig.. I would really like to see how that would work. May I also suggest you doing a video on the different types of "Saddle carry". Thanks
Certainly.
I'll second that. would love one on rifles carried in the saddle.
I once read that the shoulder rig was made specifically for horseback shooting. Later material suggests that it was made for Miami Vice.
HAHA!
I literly just 5 mins ago rewatched the two old videos on holsers!
It's a sidearm kinda day.
I came across this channel when I started to play red dead redemption 2 back when it was released I still play it today. And man what a great thing I did. I’ve watched so many videos now love it santee
Thank you! Much appreciated.
When walking in the woods. I usually keep my gun on my left hip as It bumps into my rifle thats in my right hand most of the time. I dont like anything getting caught on each other.
I get that.
Northern Woodsman Same here, same reason.
A few years back, while living in Phoenix, AZ, I got the history bug. Began doing a bit of gold prospecting in the Bradshaw Mtns and around the KOFA NWF areas, often camping out for a week at a time. GREAT memories. Anyway, I often carried a Uberti Remington Army .44. C&B in a flap holster, grip butt to the rear on my strong(right) side. I quickly learned that the gun was constantly in my way while dry and wet panning. So I moved the holster to the left side, butt forward. PERFECT!! The gun was out of the way, yet could be quickly accessed if needed. In looking at historical photos of 49'ers and later prospectors in the territories of NV, MT, CO, AZ, etc, I noticed that nearly all had their handguns butt forward on the hip! It wasn't a fashion style, it was just pure practicality!
@@63DW89A I have an original. 36 army and I bring it pretty often. It shoots, so it works for me.
@@northernwoodsman Agree totally. Still have the Uberti Remington Army. With a full charge of Swiss FFFg, the Uberti .44 will punch a 220 grain conical completely thru four 2X4's and over half way thru the 5th! From a 1911, 45 ACP 230 gr FMJ (standard velocity) will JUST punch thru three 2X4's and dent the 4th. The C&B .44 is a bit slow to load, but it has plenty of power if needed! Been living back east (TN) for a few years now, (family reasons). Thinking about those prospecting adventures, really gets me chomping at the bit to get back into the AZ desert! Nothing like the smell and quiet of waking up in the desert with the sun's glow in on the eastern horizon!
I have always wanted to learn how to make leather holsters. Some of the modern, molded and formed holsters are beautiful and functional. Great piece of history. Thanks!
Thank you!
Didn't someone favour a silk sash? Can't remember his name but he was a character in White Buffalo, played by Charles Bronson.
Wild Bill was said to wear a sash. That's who Bronson was playing.
@@ArizonaGhostriders This is just a guess, but I'd wager he was being sarcastic.
Also, as I recall, Bill also favored carrying his guns butt forward.
@@Devin_Stromgren Yes, as evident in the photo of him in the video.
@@ArizonaGhostriders I must have missed that photo.
Finally! Thank you so much this is what I've been looking for.
Glad I could help!
What about Arthur's from rdr2 second holster position? Was something like that viable?
yes
@@ArizonaGhostriders was something like a crossdraw cheyenne holster relevant before the 1900's? if not what kind of crossdraw holsters were relevant and used before the 1900's? I'm getting into cowboy action and am probably going for straight hand+crossdraw but still want it to be period accurate
also adding to that, what kind of shotgun shell belts were period accurate (and did people ever carry their knives on a secondary belt just for shotgun shells ect.)
@@landry2647 cavalrymen used a crossdraw before and during the civil war and on into the Indian wars so yes it's relevant but SASS has rules on angles and technique when using crossdraw
I would happily watch an hour long version of this video. Please, please make longer videos. I recently moved to AZ, and it would be a real treat to meet you, Sir.
I work a 40+ hour work week plus making videos. There simply is no more time.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Fair enough. Where do you film your videos? Do you do any kind of live shows? I'm down in Sierra Vista AZ, dying to jump into the cowboy lifestyle
@@hardpack187 We film at Trail Dust town, mainly. Live shows...probably in October in Florence. Otherwise, Covid got it all locked down.
@@ArizonaGhostriders You'll see me there. By then, my mustache should be at full power
I’ve always wondered about the way Tuco carried his franken-pistol in the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. He wore it around his neck, is there any historic precedent for that?
It's clunky but I've seen a photo or two with lanyard guns.
Lol franken-pistol
Duel wield & calvary style... like my hero Wild Bill Hickok, big fan of the rouge/ Curly Bill spin (unloaded)
It's a fun one.
Hey Santee, in the game Red dead redemption 2, the character Micah wears his revolvers in a very unique way, I was wondering if that was a real carry style or just made for the game.
They are simple crossdraws. His clothing/gunrig copies Charlie Prince in the remake of 3:10 to Yuma.
I was thinking the same thing about Arthur Morgan,he wears one gun in front and another on the side.
u mean 🐀
@@joshholden9360 thanks!🤠
I read somewere that it's the most optimal for horse riding since the guns aren't exactly on your hip, where it would be hard to draw.
Is this true?
This is an interesting topic. I remember reading the political science books back in College and they said every country has its designs and said the older it is the better as it becomes smoother. AWESOME video Santee.👍👍👍
Thank you! Good point.
Can you do a video about red dead 2 carrying style and if they’re historically accurate?
I can certainly try.
I’m a very big fan of the frontier era and the way they lived and the items that were used I always wanted to know more and I always wanted to see a video to know more about them and your playlist of all what I wanted is there I’m so happy big fan
Thank you so much!
Hey pard, Dart looks to be carrying his guns in his pockets. Any idee as to what they were. AND Wild Bill seemed to have no problem carrying his Navies in his belt or waste band. Im sure he likely carried them in holsters when on the plains, but as seen in several piocs he carried them either in a belt or in his waste band. I carried mine in holsters for over 40yrs, butts backward, like mine lol, Butt now, I carry them like he did, in my waste band which is belted, butts forward. For casual carry with no mayhem inpending, I carry them with barrels straight down. When however I find I may be obliged to use them, I carry them at a 45o angle. Either way works. Your pard, Mild Bill
Not sure what Dart is carrying those in. Looks like some leather pockets. I'll try to find out.
In the pic of Bill it looks like they are in holsters.
Doc carried little 38s. Not 44s
Hey you forgot the Bridgeport rig. Where essentially the gun was attached to a swivel nut on a belt and you could actually just turn the up and fire it without taking it off the belt. That said you could just take it off the belt as well but while it sounds cool it exposed the gun to the elements and I’d imagine shooting something from that position is even more difficult than in the fast draw position
I didn't because it was not a common carry style.
How does the T-Rex carry his pistol?
Shoulder holster. Only way with those short arms.
Doesn’t need one 😂
Im pretty sure the reasoning behind the cavalier holster positioning was mainly an easy way to draw your gun while seated.
On horseback
Mabey I missed it but where did "Rex" come from and why is he in all the shows?
If you look in the description field there's a link to the "Q & A" episode. Explains it.
If I Don't see Rex in a video something is horribly wrong!
Can't just make things easier for us can you? Lol
With all the comments and stuff it's hard to find q & a
Rex was the unforeseen consequence of using an Ouija board at Halloween. Bill, on the other hand, was an invited guest who never left.
Nice covering the options. If I were living in that era I'd either carry 2 pistols in case I run out of ammo in the first, or learn to shoot really well with just one.
Yes.
Why carry 2. Matt Dillon only needed 1 and 1 shot.
Derringers were an option… always love it in westerns when the gunslingers whip out a derringer when you expect them to reach for their main sidearm
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There is historical evidence (primarily from Hickock) where guns were carried in the waistband or in his case, tucked into a sash. The reversed butts had problems BUT, if you dropped or emptied your strong side revolver, you could more easily draw the weapon on your opposite hip with your strong hand. Plus if your strong side hand got restrained or wounded, you could use the weak side hand to draw a reversed butt revolver from either hip without having to reach around your back. The fastest reload, especially when most revolvers were still cap and ball, was a second weapon. As for sitting in chairs, drawing pistols carried with the butts reversed was easier than getting a hand down between your hip and the arms of a chair and drawing it backward into the back of a chair. Hickock and Holliday were both gamblers...more likely to find themselves in a situation while seated. Of course, the same reasons lead to the development of shoulder holsters...plus it was easier to conceal a handgun under a coat if it was in a shoulder holster, especially if it was a smaller piece. (Somehow the image of a Walker Colt in a shoulder holster just...well, it's just scary and a bit silly.)
Tucked in a sash I can see. Of course, I showed proof of them putting it in their waistband with that photo.
Yes, the draw is easier sitting down than on in a straight drop with butts to the rear. Can I say "butts to the rear?"
To be fair I think the carrying of two guns was less for dual wielding and more because peacemakers take a little while to reload, and before the peacemakers you had the black powder which were even harder to reload. Much faster just to pull another gun
All those guns shot black powder back then.
You make a good point about the percussion firearms taking awhile to load. That's why the confederate guerrilas carried so many into their skirmishes.
On the flip side, Hickok and Capt. Jonathan R. Davis were documented dual-wielders.
You should do a Part Deux Santee. Bridgeport device, sleeve gun, knuckleduster on the watch chain, suspender holster for derring, shrip stew, shrimp burger, shrimp salad...
Chuck, the Bridgeport Rig didn't come with shrimp, it came with crab. Sometimes that cheap crab substitute.
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This video was very interesting, and informative. I really didn't know that carrying two pistols was strictly a Hollywood invention. Thank you for sharing this.
Not strictly. I showed actual photos of folks who did. I think the idea of two slung low on either hip maybe more Hollywood.
Carrying two was a historical given. I wonder if shooting two at the same time was a Hollywood imagining.
Appendix carry, or Mexican carry is believed to be started with Mexico's Vaqueros. As open carry started to be cracked down on, the Vaqueros tucked thier guns into their pants and covered them with their coats. Nothing racist about the name, it's actually a tribute.
Fascinating. Thanks for that info. I'll look into it.
A popular concealed carry here in Europe was simply in the pocket, which was made buckskin.
Sounds feasible.
For cowboy action shooting I use a standard holster pair when handgun hunting I use a cross draw.
COol!
Thanks, always a good time.
Thank you, Wade!
I use single actions for ccw. Mostly in cooler weather as they are a little big for light clothes. Mernickle shoulder with off side shell plate and sometimes belt holster. Wish we had open carry though.
Good hardware Jeff
Loved the reaction cut to Stan Laurel.
Thank you!
I love this thanks for posting.
Wish we all could still just wonder around with a 6 on our hip still.
Much appreciated.
I'm here in TN and in 60 days that will be legal constitution carry O happy days
Great and informative video Santee, thank you. I bet you get some looks when you take Rex for a walk in the park.
I do! Interesting how all the dogs disappear. Well, every animal, really.
great vid, thanks so much ! never even considered appendix carry myself ha ha ha.... interesting fact about lining the pockets with leather to get the guns out quicker... that's the exact reason I pocket carry my LCR with kydex… in and out of the pocket super easy, and with the proper hook, the gun slips in and out of the kydex, leaving the holster in the pocket.
Cool kydex carry!
It was probably at least as much to keep the guns from ripping , or prematurely wearing through the pockets .
When that clip of Laurel and Hardy came on with Stan laughing at your misfortune, I busted out loud. Also, that lining your pocket thing sounds like a great idea. My gun sights keep wearing holes in my pockets.
I just stuffed some in to show, but sewing them in would be no problem.
it's not the sight, it's the unintentional first shot!
Just discovered these videos today and Man they are great. Keep up the good work fellas 👍🏻
Thank you! Much appreciated.
0:36)The picture of William Henry McCarty, Junior, AKA Billy the Kid, is a mirror image photo. He was right handed. Dr. John Holliday & ( Dodge City)Ford County Sheriff William Masterson used the cross draw.
It's reversed because it's a Tintype, or Ambrotype.
Awesome video, I love the way you explain things with comedy but you still get that point across... I have always had that same question about the two guns, I felt it might be more Hollywood then old west but wasn't sure... 🐻
Glad you liked it. In many larger towns, they outlawed the wearing of guns...so concealing one of those big hoglegs was tough enough.
Mighty fine. Thanks Santee
Very welcome
Happy Thanksgiving to you. Your video just came across my page this morning. I am actually thinking of getting a cross Holster for my rig. As you can tell I am watching this episode Thanksgiving morning. I am getting ready to go to the shelter to help out with the dogs. Really good information my friend. Thank you see you in the next video
Thanks, you too!
Thank you for another wonderful video santee
My pleasure!
Nice vid Santee hope your stayen safe and feeding Rex on the daily.
If I don't, he'll go to the drive-through at Burger King. Again.
That's never a good thing for a fast food restaurant.