I'm amazed the fan and housing is spotless, I've worked on exhaust fans but never old were so clean. That Broan design has been around since the 1970s and you can even cannibalize parts from new models to old, worse case, such as just swapping the fan assemblies. Those exhausts are old designs and fans, reliable, will last you forever if clean, as yours are. The only time they die is if dirt gets in there and the owner doesn't clean it out before the motor burns, deforms the rotor, or heat build up deform the fan blades; if it starts making noises you've never heard before that's the time to clean it; once in 10-15 years is all you need. Cheers, mine are original builders too, installed in 1984. In the Southern US, they don't last long due to humidity, so they rust out, so being able to replace them quickly like a light bulb, is a plus.
Hey Greg, thanks for sharing this very informative video. Couple of days ago I replaced my bathroom fan with the same brand as yours. After putting it in, I noticed that its rotating counter clockwise. I thought something’s wrong with the fan. Then it occurred to me that I might have connected hot/neutral wires the opposite way but while watching your video I noticed your both fans run counter clockwise. So, my headache is gone now. Thanks again!
Thank you for this. I'm about to replace my old dirty fan with this exact same upgrade kit and your video gave me the confidence to do it myself. Much appreciated.
Great video! I've been procrastinating replacing the bathroom vents in my house. They are both original to the house from 1996. Both work fine, but as you can imagine, they don't move much air. After a good hot shower, with the fan running for the duration of the shower, it's about as steamy as it would be without the fan. This kit seems like a neat idea, but I don't think I'd have a problem upgrading to a larger fan that could hopefully move some air!
When i built our house I intentionally put 2 of these loud fans in two bathrooms to help cover the "sounds" that might occur in them - 4 other bathrooms have nicer, bigger more efficient ECM fan units in them.
I found one in the ceiling of a bedroom (rental) it’s an older model nutone 60 & I’m curious if smokers used them back in the day? House is from 60’s….
It may be clean because it has never moved air. I'd be using the paper method to ensure there is suction, and the squirrel cage design is superior to the paddle fan - I'd leave the new one in.
Would love to see if you could upgrade from a Nuton/Broan to a larger (but quieter) Panasonic bathroom exhaust fan, as I was wondering if it would be a lot of work to enlarge the opening and if there will be some complication if we upgrade from a small fan to a larger one. Thanks!
yes it would be better. the work involves cutting the ceiling drywall carefully. Then mounting the new fan bracket. Not too difficult but need to be very careful.
Panasonic is the way to go, silent, and get teh retrofit models, easy PZ, i recently did 3 Panasonics replacing the old Broan cement grinders. All others suck, compared to Panasonics. 3 Sone is way too loud Panasonic are .8 .8 big different. It's cheap, here cus it's the same junk you are replacing. get a Panasonic
The fan sound has a lot to do with the size of the fan. The bigger than fan, the less noise it will make to move the same volume of air. You look at the panasonic fans, they have massive blowers. They move twice the volume of air, with a fraction of the noise, all thanks to the gigantic blowers.
It’s also because the paddle style blades make more noise than a squirrel cage style impeller. If it had a squirrel cage blower it would be quieter. His fan was noisy because of a clogged vent.
Thanks for being honest when the new installation also did not improve the result! I have a 6-sone rating bath fan, much louder, in a house built in 2021, and it is a cheapo. In fact, all of my bath fans are cheapos! I don't understand why builders seem to try to save money in every aspect of the house building. My builder is Century Communities. Did you find the quieter one yet? I saw another video from a guy installing Panasonic one, don't know how that loud/quiet that is.
Panasonics are teh best SILENT even on 110 cfm they have several models. get teh retrofit models, well designed to replace this old junk. Panasonic is larger so you can work and cut teh drywall a bit larger, and teh Panasnic covers it all, and it comes with a adapter for different size duct. Panasonic clever how it's meant for retrofit, flex bracket, and how parts for electrical, and duct separate for easy work, then clip together and fan is done with 4 self taping screws into the flex bracket
You are right. When I removed the housing I saw in my case the flap was completely stuck. it was too late I installed the new one. but the sound was on a similar level.
@@OscarsPlaces Yeahh also, if it is vented straight out the wall outside, make sure that the flaps are free and if it’s got a little screen, remove that because that will restrict flow as well and kick up the noise level of the fan
@@mustangdbest220with my fan I checked to make sure my flap in the fan and roof vent wasn’t stuck closed. Usually some lubricant can free up a stuck damper flap in the fan housing.
This video is odd. There’s no way that fan is 15 years old and not cleaned. Everything looked fairly new. The upgrade was no quieter. Not sure about all of that but if you just wanted to make a how-to video, do it. You don’t need everyone to believe that, for some magical reason, dust doesn’t exist in your house. I just find it strange.
you got me. The alternative is to cut a bigger hole and install a bigger quieter fan. This is a $50 solution that is quick and cuts the noise down quite a bit, plus you get a new modern grill.
I'm amazed the fan and housing is spotless, I've worked on exhaust fans but never old were so clean. That Broan design has been around since the 1970s and you can even cannibalize parts from new models to old, worse case, such as just swapping the fan assemblies. Those exhausts are old designs and fans, reliable, will last you forever if clean, as yours are. The only time they die is if dirt gets in there and the owner doesn't clean it out before the motor burns, deforms the rotor, or heat build up deform the fan blades; if it starts making noises you've never heard before that's the time to clean it; once in 10-15 years is all you need. Cheers, mine are original builders too, installed in 1984. In the Southern US, they don't last long due to humidity, so they rust out, so being able to replace them quickly like a light bulb, is a plus.
Hey Greg, thanks for sharing this very informative video. Couple of days ago I replaced my bathroom fan with the same brand as yours. After putting it in, I noticed that its rotating counter clockwise. I thought something’s wrong with the fan. Then it occurred to me that I might have connected hot/neutral wires the opposite way but while watching your video I noticed your both fans run counter clockwise. So, my headache is gone now. Thanks again!
Thank you for this. I'm about to replace my old dirty fan with this exact same upgrade kit and your video gave me the confidence to do it myself. Much appreciated.
Very good that’s the point!
Great video! I've been procrastinating replacing the bathroom vents in my house. They are both original to the house from 1996. Both work fine, but as you can imagine, they don't move much air. After a good hot shower, with the fan running for the duration of the shower, it's about as steamy as it would be without the fan. This kit seems like a neat idea, but I don't think I'd have a problem upgrading to a larger fan that could hopefully move some air!
Also check the air flow to the outside. Hose could be plugged with bird nests. But yes a new fan is helpful regardless.
When i built our house I intentionally put 2 of these loud fans in two bathrooms to help cover the "sounds" that might occur in them - 4 other bathrooms have nicer, bigger more efficient ECM fan units in them.
well-made, informative, AND realistic ("Get in there, b*tch!"), video sir. my hat's off to ya!
Thanks that was a good review 100%
I found one in the ceiling of a bedroom (rental) it’s an older model nutone 60 & I’m curious if smokers used them back in the day? House is from 60’s….
Probably turned it on to clear the smoke
It may be clean because it has never moved air. I'd be using the paper method to ensure there is suction, and the squirrel cage design is superior to the paddle fan - I'd leave the new one in.
true. There was a birds nest in the vent outside. Never moving air.
I’d be pissed about the sound. Good idea on the return
What's the use of sones ?
Would love to see if you could upgrade from a Nuton/Broan to a larger (but quieter) Panasonic bathroom exhaust fan, as I was wondering if it would be a lot of work to enlarge the opening and if there will be some complication if we upgrade from a small fan to a larger one. Thanks!
yes it would be better. the work involves cutting the ceiling drywall carefully. Then mounting the new fan bracket. Not too difficult but need to be very careful.
Panasonic is the way to go, silent, and get teh retrofit models, easy PZ, i recently did 3 Panasonics replacing the old Broan cement grinders. All others suck, compared to Panasonics. 3 Sone is way too loud Panasonic are .8 .8 big different. It's cheap, here cus it's the same junk you are replacing. get a Panasonic
They both work well but differs with noise levels.
The sound may be related to the power of the motor to air out smell or moisture.
BOT
Same thing with our bathroom fans so whats the solution for the noise then ?
Better low noise fan and ensure the hose isn’t blocked at all.
Thanks
No problem
How are you able to get a replacement motor that fits the existing housing?
this is a common size replacement.
The fan sound has a lot to do with the size of the fan. The bigger than fan, the less noise it will make to move the same volume of air. You look at the panasonic fans, they have massive blowers. They move twice the volume of air, with a fraction of the noise, all thanks to the gigantic blowers.
It’s also because the paddle style blades make more noise than a squirrel cage style impeller. If it had a squirrel cage blower it would be quieter. His fan was noisy because of a clogged vent.
Did you get something new then? Quieter? Did you get to change the housing and make a larger compartment for the fan?
yeah i did all that stuff. should do a follow up...
thank you so much !!!!
I'm laughing because it happened the same to me. I spent money and time and the sound level where the same.
Why would you return it? You installed it.
It wasn’t the issue
@@gregs_garageYou are returning a used product. That isn't the store's fault, Don't be dishonest because you know you can. Be upright.
@@georgecolbert3247 Placing it back in the package and returning it and saying you didn't need it is "upright".
Anyone good enough to go a step further and can upgrade the smaller parts individually?
Thanks for being honest when the new installation also did not improve the result! I have a 6-sone rating bath fan, much louder, in a house built in 2021, and it is a cheapo. In fact, all of my bath fans are cheapos! I don't understand why builders seem to try to save money in every aspect of the house building. My builder is Century Communities. Did you find the quieter one yet? I saw another video from a guy installing Panasonic one, don't know how that loud/quiet that is.
Yes I put a bigger 1-sone fan in. Also there was a birds nest in the vent which made it louder. Did not do a follow up video
Panasonics are teh best SILENT even on 110 cfm they have several models. get teh retrofit models, well designed to replace this old junk. Panasonic is larger so you can work and cut teh drywall a bit larger, and teh Panasnic covers it all, and it comes with a adapter for different size duct. Panasonic clever how it's meant for retrofit, flex bracket, and how parts for electrical, and duct separate for easy work, then clip together and fan is done with 4 self taping screws into the flex bracket
MAKE SURE THE FLAP IS NOT Stuck closed
You are right. When I removed the housing I saw in my case the flap was completely stuck. it was too late I installed the new one. but the sound was on a similar level.
@@OscarsPlaces Yeahh also, if it is vented straight out the wall outside, make sure that the flaps are free and if it’s got a little screen, remove that because that will restrict flow as well and kick up the noise level of the fan
@@mustangdbest220 great value, thanks for sharing.
@@OscarsPlaces Np and make a video of all that
@@mustangdbest220with my fan I checked to make sure my flap in the fan and roof vent wasn’t stuck closed. Usually some lubricant can free up a stuck damper flap in the fan housing.
BROAN QUIET 1 SONE 👍
Its the vibration. Seems like the entire fan box is loose just siting on top ...
Now you can hear (and be heard) peeing and pooping!! Nice work.
install roof top exhaust fan that located at the top of roof.
That is actually a Fasco bathroom fan and that’s like the one in my aunts house and one in my aunts house sounds Rattley
geez, it is your housing of the fan, not the fan making the noise......
have you fig it out?
I cannot recommend taking on such liability. I show this as a science experiment only.
This is about to help me install my fan... To remove the bird that decided to get in the fan duct and kill itself on the fan. Bad decision, bird...
Maybe calling it a b word mad it mad ! 🙃
Watch out for the vortex.
that's not noisy Dude you sure you never cleaned that in 15 yrs. That thing is still mint and sounds decent. you wasted $25 for no reason.
Yup agree, he said it was loose when removing it, hmmm 🤔
Total waste of money.
Old fan is quieter!
It's louder
$25? More like $51 now
inflation in a bitch. These were $25 Canadian (less than $20 USD) a year ago.
The old fan is much quiet than the new😢
This video is odd. There’s no way that fan is 15 years old and not cleaned. Everything looked fairly new. The upgrade was no quieter. Not sure about all of that but if you just wanted to make a how-to video, do it. You don’t need everyone to believe that, for some magical reason, dust doesn’t exist in your house. I just find it strange.
first time cover was off since 2005. I don't know why it was so clean either. Maybe dust avoids that little room.
@@gregs_garage amazing. Well then I want to know your secret. I can’t stop it from coming. Thanks for the rest of the info.
Your older one sounds better tbh 🤷♂️
So, you replaced one cheap garbage for another!
Seems like you exchanged a cheap fan, for another cheap fan.
you got me. The alternative is to cut a bigger hole and install a bigger quieter fan. This is a $50 solution that is quick and cuts the noise down quite a bit, plus you get a new modern grill.
You just wasted Money dude, That Dan wasn’t even that bad, lol 😂, you could’ve just cleaned it
Fart fan ! Shouldn’t it be noisy ?
Nasty language. Won't be back.
Lol perfect example of what not to do. Go with anything below .03 not 3.0.
Thank you for watching
Old one was better, quieter and rugged ! Wasted time and money!
Way better!
Wasted your money!
Get rid of your lapel microphone, we can all hear the spit in your mouth.
Fell asleep