Randy Moss reveals his WR Mt. Rushmore: Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens & Megatron | NFL | UNDISPUTED
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- Skip Bayless, Michael Irvin and Keyshawn Johnson react to Randy Moss’ list of his four best WRs featuring Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, Calvin Johnson and himself. Skip, Key and Michael also reveal their WR Mt. Rushmore list.
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Idk why nobody puts larry ritzgerald in the mt.rushmore ,the playmaker,drew pearson,jerry rice
Good point about Marvin Harrison Keyshawn
@@mrsstallworth1790Fitz’ best season in yards was 1431.
Rice 1848
Moss 1632
Megatron 1964
Owens 1451
He’s only close to Owens. Fitz most TD in a season was 13, which he did once. Owens had 13 three times, 14 twice, 15 once and 16 once.
Fitz in my opinion is barely top 10.
Larry Fitzgerald is overlooked way too often. In his 17 year career he played with 22 QBs who only earned 3 pro bowls between all of them, yet he's still #2 all time in receiving yards and receptions
And Anquan Bolden
@@jeromec1983 😗
FITZ IS TOP 10
Larry big issue was he was loyal to a business. If it hadn't if been for his no trade clause you know they would of shipped him outta town.
Fitz has more tackles in his career than drops. One of the best to ever do it.
S/O to Keyshawn for showing love to Marvin Harrison Sr. 💪🏿
Marvin Harrison Sr is a beast!
Agreed. I think they don't give him props for the stuff that happened with the shootings.
Key was #1 n 96 but da 3rd best WR behind T.O. n Marvin Harrison
Got shutdown too many times by patriots tho
@@madscrillaog5703Ty Law held 15 yards off the line of scrimmage ma'am
Jerry, Moss and TO are in it no matter what
Jerry and Moss are in it no matter what
Megatron to Larry
And T.O., I don't understand how ppl think that T.O. is not on that wrs Mount Rushmore T.O played better and his numbers better than any wr but Rice and Moss
And TO… he’s cemented in the Top 3… Megatron nor Larry surpassed him
@@cheemevafrass1485 don't know football
@@fame4389if a mf doesn't have T.O. in their top 3-5 there's no need to even have a convo
In my life, Megatron was the most dominate, uncoverable wr I’ve ever seen. Seeing teams double press him with a safety over top and he still cooks is wild.
Yes. The combination of TO and Moss
They wasted alot of downs trying to force him the ball too.
@@mbarnett382exactly! A lot of his td’s came during garbage time when the lions would be getting blown out by 35pts and the 2nd string would be in.
Idk, Peanut Tillman use to do real good against megaton as opposed to Moss! Most megatons td’s came when the lions would be getting blown out..look this up.
10 year career
Tyreke being above Moss, TO, Harrison, Megatron, and Fitzgerald is crazy to me.
Right!!!!! Smh
Bruh Tyreke definitely going down as top 7
Hes not retired. Its unfair argument
I have never seen anything like Tyreek Hill. He is definitely above Harrison, Fitz and TO to me.
@@sthao1733 fitz put up crazy numbers with his best QBs being an old Kurt Warner and post shoulder surgery Carson Palmer. I respect Hill a lot but respect Fitz and TO for being as good as they were despite not always being on the best team.
That’s a beautiful story. Micheal Irvin’s dad loved the cowboys and drew Pearson #88 and one day Micheal became the #88 on his father’s beloved cowboys! How wild!!!
Drew is an absolute class act ..2 years ago he came back to speak to his alma mater South River HS football team that my son played linebacker for but was crutches up with a high ankle and in honor of Drew wore a#88 jersey I had bought him a couple of years ago and Mr Pearson signed it for my son and making a big deal out of it wich I thought was very cool …The school security recorded it all for me and now my son has the autographed jersey with the picture of Drew signing it in a display case…Just wanted to share that story about Drew Pearson also one of the greatest clutch receivers of all time !
🤣🤣🤡🤡 cry baby Pearson
@@Dude-6969you are down bad in life. Stop it and get some serious help.
@@SinaSoh 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡
@@Dude-6969 are you too stupid to type words???
I LOVE the marvin Harrison praise from Keyshawn
As a Titans fan..i hated Marvin he was a real bad dude.. i hate the Peyton made him nonsence ...
@michaelwashington4408 true, im a die hard Colts fan and I know Marvin would have been great on any other team. He wasn't the biggest, strongest, or fastest but he was just efficient
Especially that he talked mad trash about Harrison in the Tampa Bay/Indy game on the sidelines in 2003...
@@devilsreject5343 yup!
@@michaelwashington4408I still remember that diving one handed catch Harrison did on the titans.
I was listening to the game on the radio on my way home and the announcers were saying it was the greatest catch they ever seen.
Rushed home and watched the highlights. That catch is crazy underrated cause I never see it get bought up on catching highlight reels
Andre Johnson is underrated and no one ever talks about.
If the texans ever had a qb worth a damn for those years andre johnson would have a superbowl ring rn
He is underrated but no where near Mt Rushmore
Underrated but doesn’t belong anywhere in this conversation
Absolutely should be in the HOF along with Steve Smith Sr.
He's good but he's not top 4 so what is there to talk about lol
Art Monk was an incredible WR as well. When he retired he was the all time leader in receptions. But Rice is the greatest football player of all-time. The way he played and thinhs he did plus the longevity is unmatched.
OMG he was the Truth
“We can’t eat that trophy, we need some food” 😂😂😂
Love that he included Calvin. Him and Moss were probably the two most unstoppable freaks at the position. They are winning 99% of those contested balls and will go 2ft above your head to pull it down. Big guys but crazy fast.
Dude was a loser u can name 5 receivers during his time that out produced him during his career
@@BobSmith-saidNo you can’t, name them!
@@BobSmith-saidjus hush bro please do everyone a favor
They both were unstoppable freaks. But the most unstoppable player was Rice.
@@UTP504he's a troll
Randys list is legit spot on, it's a list of physical freaks and Jerry Rice that is an average man that is better than all those beasts, not a physical freak, just the best that ever did it
Jerry Rice is the best to ever cheat using stickum
@@user-wj9bz8xi9u FACTS, HE CHEATED.
There's no way you have a mount Rushmore without Rice, T.O, and Moss at this point in time. Nobody talking about locker room or public only between those lines those 3 are a must
TO dropped balls so many times it's easy to leave him out of the top 4 off that alone. And I grew up watching those Niners teams as a kid and idolizing him.
@@coldcreative4601And he still ranks 2nd in all time yards (behind Rice) and 3rd in td receptions (behind Rice and Moss) with all those drops. And he had a higher career catch percentage than Randy Moss (Moss at 56.4% and TO at 57.7%)
@@tugg36him dropping that many passes and still being ranked that high kind of proves that guy's point.
You need to throw owens he ball a lot to get equal production you would get from someone like Moss or Hill.
@@MikeBNumba6 True, but to be fair to TO he has 9 seasons with over 1k yards on 100 receptions or less while Randy has 8 seasons with 1k yards on 100 or less. Now obviously not all those are drops, you also gotta factor in things like bad passes and interceptions too. But yeah I see you alls point
Some people talk and others get busy accomplishing like Jerry Rice. No body cares about skippys opinion because he has no credibility with his biased opinion. Skip you dont matter because Jerry led by example like John Taylor.
I approve of Randy's Mt. Rushmore 👍👌
Career catch percentages
Michael Irvin: 60.3%
Randy Moss: 56.4%
Calvin Johnson: 55.7%
Hmmm 🤔
This is my Mt Rushmore of wide receivers
1 Jerry Rice
2 Randy Moss
3 Terrell Owens
4 Calvin Johnson
AB> calvin
@buccbetts2194 may be rapping, yeah.
Your last 2 picks aren't even on the NFL 100 ALL-TIME Team and 0 Rings
@@happybeingmiserable4668🤡🤡
@@happybeingmiserable4668Randy Moss didn't win a ring just in case you forgot.
Marvin Harrison had 8 straight years with 10+ receiving tds, he was unbelievable!
As a colts fan watching him play was an honor, he was electric. Rashean Mathis(former jags corner) still has nightmares about Marvin. #88 used to destroy him.
Chris Carter played with Randall Cunningham in Philadelphia and in Minnesota, plus we definitely can't forget about Reggie Wayne.
Carter was unbelievable. Reggie was great but Marvin was an all-time great. The two don't compare IMO
And mike evans have 10 straight seasons with 1,000+ and may i add the only wr to ever do that!!
@nahilltop wrong he isnt the only wr with a span of 10 straight years with 1k yards a season
1. Jerry Rice
2. Randy Moss
3. Terrell Owens
4. Marvin Harrison
Honorable mention: Mike Evans, the most underated WR of all-time.
Honorable mention: Antonio Brown, the most underrated WR of all-time.*
@bussinbets Mike Evans has nearly the same receiving yards and more TD's in two fewer seasons. He's the only WR in NFL history with 1,000+ receiving yards every season of his career.
everybody knows prime ab clears mike all day and if u don't think so ur a casual. mike was never once mention as the best wr in the league in any season, let alone top 3. @@Us0ppDSniper
@bussinbets Prime means nothing when it's Mt. Rushmore (career achievements). Mike Evans will be ranked higher than AB by the time his career is over. Not to mention the fact AB had Big Ben force feeding him the ball his whole career. Mike Evans best QB was a 43 yr old Tom Brady.
Andre Reid🔥
Some of y’all are forgetting that Michael Irvin played with the All Time Rushing Leader.
Who were Payton’s, Sanders’ or Dickerson’s HOF receiver?
Not many WRs played with that type of RB for a substantial part of their careers (besides Rice)
Numbers mean something, but context matters too.
Good point
Everything Michael said about tyreek could also be said about megatron. He was the lions 1st, 2nd, & 3rd option
Dude's on one about Tyreek. You could say the same thing about AB until he lost his mind. #1 I wouldn't take Irvin over Rice, Moss, Owens, Sterling Sharpe, Largent, Fitzgerald, Andre or Calvin Johnson, and about 20 other receivers I could think of. Tyreek is having a good year, but lets pump the breaks on calling him top whatever of all time man.
except tyreek is a champion
@@big.house2134because you didn't have to go outside of your offense to force the ball to Tyreke like they did for Megatron. You are correct
Megatron quit & his teams sucked
@anton5910 yall don't seem to understand what he's saying about Tyreek... Megatron/ AB were not like him, they weren't used like him. U can line Tyreek up @ RB & he'd probably be an All Pro guy
1. Jerry Rice is the G.O.A.T when it comes to wide receivers, no doubt about it.
AND
2. Shame on [almost] everyone in the comment section that just forgot about Sterling Sharpe & Art Monk!
Shame on people who forget Raymond Berry and Don Huston and ignorant to NFL history and how the rules have changed since the 70's to help offenses! 2 unanimous selections for the NFL 100 ALL-TIME TEAM!
Yes sterling was a monster
Megatron
Best single game ever with 329 yards
Best single season ever with 1964 yards
Best adjusted ypr
Best adjusted ypg
Best blocking wr
Best wr after contact
Has like 5 TDs in triple coverage
Flipper Anderson had more yards in a game. With that being said I agree with you though.
Cooper kupp had the best season for a wr ever
@@baykid4994 I actually don’t disagree. I just hate that he got hurt the next season and hasn’t been the same.
Calvin didn’t get enough TDs to be that big he shoulda had seasons with 15+ tds
@@ProofThatAstrologyIsReal The man was doubled and even tripled his entire career.
It’s crazy that no one’s mentions Tim Brown. Hall of famer and 17 years with 19 different quarterbacks and won a Heisman
He wasnt top 3 in his era
hes so underrated
@@rayj1013u krazy Touchdown Timmy Brown was da best w no QB n punt returner
Played in the 90s todays equivalent prolly AJ Brown
@@MrBatman2145Barry M calls him the unlucky Jerry Rice
In the big picture, taking all skill sets, accomplishments and records into account, Jerry Rice is far and away the greatest receiver in NFL history. Put him in today's game and his records would be even more obscene. He was unstoppable whether taking a short pass, a crossing pattern, a hand-off, or a bomb, and was a threat to score a touchdown every time he touched the ball.
What’s crazy is he wasn’t the fastest, tallest, biggest, flashiest, couldn’t jump the highest, etc but he had all time great hands to go along with true “game” speed and his work ethic was 2nd to none and that made up a lot.
Rice is the Emmitt Smith of running backs. No one has Emmitt all time despite having more stats and accolades than anyone just like Jerry.
So what's the difference? Like Barry Sanders, I'll take Moss all time over rice
Jerry had the best combination of everything. Hands, speed, vertical, everything. Comparing Emmitt to him when Emmitt played behind one of the best lines in league history is laughable. He also ran and blocked in a spectacular manner which also adds to him being the best ever.
@@MikeBNumba6it’s not the same. Jerry was still skillful all around he just wasn’t the best at any one thing. Like Lebron.
@@tomstorm7926 LeBron is skillful in what way? Especially when comparing him to other scorers?
He lacks a jumper, doesn't have a cross over, poor free throw shooter, bad defense, he travels a lot, ect...
He gets most of his points driving to the basket and shooting free throws. Emmitt Smith had skills. But everyone with eyes knew Barry Sanders was better not matter how many more yards or accolades Emmitt had over Barry
They gave Rice his props so I don't even have to say anything lol.......BUT I will say that Rice was one of the best "rushing" wide receivers too as he averaged over 7 yards per carry with 645 yards and 10 rushing TDs. That's something that's heavily overlooked.
Preach on my brother. People neglect that fact. Any time he touched the ball he was a threat to score a TD. What other receiver rushed the ball like Jerry?
And one of the best blocking WR's. He's #1 for a reason, and it's really not close.
As well as a Blocker, something Moss never did
@@jmar5127 And Rice went over the middle, something else Moss NEVER did. Deebo is averaging 6.2 per carry with 19 TDs and almost 1k yds. He's pretty damn good with the ball in his hands too.
Michael Irvin was the best at pushing the defensive cornerback out of the way. Saw him push Darrel Green as the ball arrived time after time.
Irvin a slight edge over rice??? That's laughable 😅
I agree, but look at who it's coming from. The clueless Cowboys lover himself.
I don’t listen to skip after that
i know right. skip would say that cause he is a cowgirl lover.
His Nickname is "The Playmaker" for a reason. My #1 will be Moss, he don't have the numbers but we say what he did with Brady. Imagine if he had 20 years of Brady like QBs
Just on the field, Antonio Brown is one of the best receivers I’ve ever seen. Obviously his career was cut short, but for about 6 years he was one of the best receivers in the game.
Facts
Brown is one of my favorite. He is top 5. All time and too 2 with Jerry on route running
How is he a goat and he was never the unquestioned WR1 in the league?
@ranma36 6 seasons of 1k yards recieving is beastmode
Julio > AB
The game has seen so many greats. Honorable mentions: Torry Holt, Issac Bruce, Larry Fitzgerald, Hynes Ward, Cris Carter, Deion Branch, Ocho, Donald Driver, Steve Smith, and Reggie Wayne just to mention a few more.
Deion Branch is not even a top 50 WR in NFL history
@@ryanerney223 maybe not but I know he comes up big in the postseason. Thus winning him a superbowl MVP.
@@msoulja9320 fair enough. I respect your passion for the game. Hope we enjoy some good football this weekend.
Mike evans haves better stats then all those dudes please edit his name on the top of the list thank you
@@nahilltop clearly Mike Evan’s is one of the greats but he’s still playing which is the reason I didn’t mention him or any of the other beast currently playing. Like Devante Adams, who running a route better than him?
You are HIGH as a kite if you would EVER take Michael Irvin over Jerry Rice....personally I believe Randy's Mt. Rushmore is SPOT ON!!
Skip is a cowboys fan
If you switch Michael Irvin's jersey and he keeps his same stats and rings, Skip would not being saying that.
Skip does that all the time. I remember he used to say Brandon Carr and Orlando Scanderick were the best corners in the league. And I know everyone remembers Sean Lee. Sean Lee may go to the hall of fame because of Skip
Michael should be top 5 thou.definetly not better than Rice but no one is..
Rice is the greatest but I’ve never seen anything like moss and Calvin Johnson’s natural ability.
Can't teach height. Moss NEVER went over the middle and Calvin was a jump ball specialist. Both of them were one-trick ponies. Which makes them kinda overrated if I'm being honest. Give me Rice and Taylor. Tim Brown was a helluva WR. And Lynn Swan.
Career catch percentages
Michael Irvin: 60.3%
Randy Moss: 56.4%
Calvin Johnson: 55.7%
@@357twilson Moss and CJ were double teamed/triple teamed
@@Psquared2324 so was every great receiver
Randy’s list is spot on!!!
Facts Randy’s list is the exact list I have as well
Colts fan here, I'm glad Marvin is not forgotten, you don't hear his name much anymore. The greatest catch I've ever seen watch a catch Marvin had against the Titans in 2003 in Nashville. It's on TH-cam if anyone wants to see it. Props to Keyshawn for the recognition. My Mt. Rushmore of receivers: Jerry Rice, TO, Randy Moss, Marvin Harrison.
Randy got it correct!
Julio over TO imo
@@FattyAcids69how ? Less catches , yards and TDs .
@@FattyAcids69your opinion is trash. It's not even close. T.O is arguably tied with Moss on who is better. Depending on the play style you like because their stats are so similar. Sounds like T.O hate to me.
@@tameone ya I’m not gonna sit here and debate a guy who starts off saying “your opinion is trash”. Good day sir
Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens , Calvin Johnson are the Mt. Rushmore. Tyreek Hill is just over 100 yds from 10k. He's coming fast but has to play more. Nobody mentions Antonio Brown. He would be on the Mt Rushmore if he wasn't nearly decapitated by Vontez Burfict. Micheal Irvin is definitely honorable mention but not top 4.
Michael you couldn't have played any longer, you were broke down by the end. Jerry endured and that's what makes him so amazing.
The dude is delusional at least Shannon could admit his achievements + his failures and honest with why he retired doesn't blame other ppl or point fingers at coaches he had etc but you are right he was beyond done by time Jerry cut the cord for good
@@ccink3931hate
Irvin was a coke head and stabbed a teammate over a hair cut.
@@TinoR626 a cokehead with three rings
He was broke down
“Jerry Rice is the greatest wide receiver to ever play the game”
Man what is Michael Irving talking about 😂😂
Right, love him for the cowboys run, listening to him I find myself baffled and cringe depending on the topic, I guess that old yayo is still coming out of his system
@@KingMason1980I'm getting sicka u AB n errbody else bringing up coke w Playmaker. Cmon now r u a shoplifting creep does dat stay w u 4ever??
@@user-it4yn9vz6c cease fire, it’s called jokes and a vivid sense of humor…shoplifting is for a creep like yourself who needs to 👍🏾😁
Calvin the only one every game the defense knew he was the only threat got tripled team and still got his numbers
This 100% his 2012 season was easily the greatest season EVER by a WR he was double and tripled teamed every game and everyone knew the ball was going to him and he still dominated, he was truly a man among children that season.
Moss was doubled and thirpled also tf u talking about
@@ProofThatAstrologyIsReal moss was but moss also played on the side of another hall of Fame wide out Chris Carter and a thousand yard back every year in rob Smith Calvin played with golden Tate 2 or 3 years and only 1 thousand yard runner for 1 season if you think those Vikings or Patriots team was as bad as the lions tf wrong with you 😂
@@user-ci2ki8wl3t moss played with Chris Carter like 3 years out of 13 🤦🏽♂️ and I live in Detroit stafford use to force the ball to Calvin all the time so it goes both ways. Calvin wouldn’t had all them targets if he was on a good team either. Stafford is better than every qb moss had but Brady and he only had Brady for 3 seasons tf wrong with u? Try again I seen both they careers moss was wayyy better
@@firstorder438lions went 4-12 that year but overrated stats
Randy’s my 🐐 receiver. This guy was unstoppable… He never got a chip, but played on a 15-1 team and 16-0 team, and was the MAIN reason for those teams flawless records. I’m not mad at anyone who has Jerry Rice first tho. Jerry was a workout warrior, champion, and record holder.
Alvin Harper and Jay Novacek and Emmitt Smith took alot of pressure off of the playmaker.that was a great team
I agree, especially Emmitt Smith. Defenses had to key on Emmitt and it was tough because of the Cowboys physical and dominant Offensive Line.
Amazing segment. Hearing two dawg WRs discuss this was amazing.
Rice, TO, Fitzgerald, Moss
I knew michael irvin was gonna slide something in about him being up there 😂
Jerry Rice is the only other receiver I’d ever take over Michael Irvin.
I love hearing great players talking about their favorite great players. Because they see the stuff that we don't see as fans. It's great
I can’t believe they just disrespected TO like this Smh. Jerry, TO, and Moss are traditionally on the majority of football fans top 3 list. And none of them had TO in their top 5. That’s wild man
Sad
TO and Moss were not champions
@@Damianoutlaw That’s not because they were lacking talent bro. 1 player doesn’t give you championships in Football. Taking nothing away from the top 5 they mentioned, but those guys played on complete power houses. Also, this specific debate was about individual talent. Championship is a team accomplishment
Skip is such a homer. Visually, Jerry Rice was far and above Micheal Irving as a wide receiver. That was clear even in college. Jerry was not a verbal leader, but he led by example with his unmatched work ethic, precision, durability and toughness.
Say you didn't see much football in the early 90s without saying it 😂. Gimme 88 at his peak. 80 had way too drops. No one brings it up like they never bring up how Barry leads NFL history in yards lost.. But as for 88 & 80, I wonder how their careers would've went without such great and accurate QBs at the helm. One of the main reasons Moss is the Goat at that position "for me". If he'd have spent his career with Brady, this wouldn't even be a conversation.
@@LeesUpthis is your brain on drugs. Jerry Rice could be the best football player ever. He turned the raiders into championship contenders and the tuck game cheated him out of number 4.
Thank you somebody!! 😅
@@LeesUpthey are not the same level. You are brainless.
No one speaks on yardage lost by Barry because he had a cheese grater as an OLine
I agree with Moss. Jerry, Moss, Megatron and then T.O. in that order. 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
King Rice
🧢
I believe any mount rushmore should consist of absolute game changers. A player like TO for example, can be on there. I actually respect the Marvin Harrison and Tyreek Hill arguments. Tyreek Hill wont be a popular choice but he truly is a game changer. I wouldnt say he is as dominant as Moss, Megatron, etc.
I also partially believe any player with an iconic nickname such as Megatron should be on a list. If you have that kind of iconic nickname, it speaks to the value they added.
I feel like it would be partially unfair to not include an iconic WR from the earlier parts of the NFL such as Don Hutson btw. I also feel like Cris Carter is underrated in the conversations.
I’d rather have ab or Edelman than hill
Tyreek is known as the Cheetah, right? I’d say that’s iconic. Or Randy… for people to say “he got Mossed”. I wouldn’t call that a nickname, but damn that’s sick.
@@ThatsNotVeryFunnyLol Finally someone with some sense. Any NFL receiver Mt. Rushmore needs to include Hudson.
The Megatron disrespect is crazy to me
They love Megatron but Megatron tap out. I love Megatron but he tap out because he was getting hit and couldn't handle it. Love him but the game got em out and nothing else. He may have to take a backseat because of that. Moss and T.O. could of done more but ppl want to act like they were a problem when they weren't. When they play win or lose they blame them but when they open they didn't feed them. Wouldn't call them divas for that.
Need to start respecting Calvin he’s hand down the most gifted athletic talent to ever play wr
Bro was 6’5 ran a 4.3 jumped over 40 inches weighing about 235
Could’ve been built in a lab
Absolutely he doesn’t get the credit he deserves.
I know this is besides the point but I can’t imagine what Lebron would do in the NFL because he might just be the bigger stronger and faster version of Megatron
@@lockiet7227Whole different sport buddy. Wake up from your wet dream.
@@Disxreet Chill out. I was just pondering these athletic freaks since they are comparable in size. Wet dream? Tf you mean?
@@johnhawkins8205they played gunner against him in the red zone none those other guys being mentioned can say they seen that coverage.
Marvin Harrison Underrated. He was consistently consistent game after game
He’s an 8x pro bowler, on an all-decade team, and in the HOF. Thats not underrated.
Agreed, so was Sterling Sharpe
@@derrick3913sterling Sharpe was dangerous
@@derrick3913 real talk
Love Michael Irvin man, dude keeps it positive at all times
Are u serious he said Tyreek is over Megatron and randy
You mean keeps it delusional 😂
@@King_ace22megatron never won a playoff game
@@Damianoutlaw dont give a f its team sport in dependant position why would that matter it's the dame lions that didn't stop people from Barry as the goat running made to playoffs and never one a playoff game know why cause he was playing for trash trash bring up rings for any position in football the ultimate team sport is just dumb to me it's about performance and skill how evaluate production to.
@@King_ace22 Barry sanders is not the goat. He was garbage in the playoffs. He only scored one touchdown in the post season.
The most criminally underrated of all time is Keenan Allen. The nuance to his route running is crazy. He’s never been a burner and I believe he ran a 4.6 at the combine. For me that makes his career even more insane. The way he varies speed on his release and in and out of breaks even on the same routes throughout a game shows the type of work he puts in to gain separation and present an open target for his QB. Keenan is still cooking cats out there playing at over 30 yrs old because he understands how to create separation from DBs . If you’re a young receiver now watch Keenan vs the Vikings and Lions this year and watch a master work at creating separation not with speed but superior technique.
Allen was never at any point in his career considered the best in the league. His and Evans consistency is admirable but they’re just not on the level of these GOAT’s
Larry Fitgerald by far is the most Underrated WR
Mount Rushmore to me I would add Megatron regardless of Super Bowl or not
Overrated
Michael forgot the “Randy ratio” in Minnesota. Also teams in the division draft defenses specifically for Randy Moss
That's why Randy would be the goat he changed the game because they had to
@@bdb7185 couldn't change the number of super bowls he won
@@xaevius5319 we comparing the player not rings. Rings are a team effort. Being able to impact the game is different then rings
@@bdb7185 if it's a team effort then why do we still select "super bowl mvps" or "regular season mvps"? not saying you don't need a team to win but you can clearly be worth more than your average teammate. is michael jordan not the goat now cuz "the rings aren't the player"? or any other sports players who won a lot? just sounds like copium defense to me. plus what is "impact the game"? contrary to maybe what people might think based on how many times i hear that argument, "impact" is such an iffy concept. so what if there's someone who is a "cultural impact" "changed the game" "has a play named after him" and all that jazz, but he's never won or nothing? i can be a meme kicker maybe do somehing different that all other kickers and they emulate me now, i have a nickname and all that, that's "impact" but is that gonna replace winning impact? i dont think so. at the end of the day, isn't that why we compete in the first place?
Jerry, AB, TO, Randy
Great discussion, great knowledge, and insight . Loved it.
Terrell Owens, Jerry Rice,Andre Reed, Randy moss,Art monk, Mega Tron Calvin Johnson , Antonio brown, Steve largent 🔥
Rice, Moss, T.O., Irvin, Megatron, M. Harrison, Fitzgerald, A.B., T. Hill, T. Holt or Cris Carter for 10th.
no one from the times before rice?
Fitz and Hill😂😂😂😂
@@HardCold-Alquan if I go before Rice. Hmm maybe Paul Warfield, Steve Largent, Bob Hayes, Don Maynard, Don Hutson, Lynn Swann, Art Monk
@@brickmoney4152 People on TV never go before the 70's, at best.
Issac Bruce.
Man, Mike be wilding! 😂😂
I love that Keyshawn and Michael both took umbrage about being left off the list. They’re true competitors.
Those 4 are good choices but there are plenty more to add.Fitzgerald,Largent,Hill,A Johnson and 2 or 3 from the 88(playmaker) club.
Crazy how they forget Steve Largent always 😢
These young'us don't even know about that short white dude
@@brientaylorcohen oh we can, cause there are these things called video. Yes I know the modern era with technology still must seem to you like the Magie from the wizards and witches u saw in your childhood
@@sven_cb1he was ok but wasn't a game changer is why he will get overlooked
@@bdb7185 well there were no cleats, gloves or field like today and he had all the important WR records. He has not won by atleticism. He won by route running skills/fooling defender skills. So many prospects do not have that today. It is more athleticism than skillset for many WRs today. So in my opinion He was a game changer. Jerry Rice himself said, that Largent was his role model. Oh and he did that all for an expansion team, not a top team from the start or with an all time great QB under center.
@@sven_cb1 you can say all that but NFL players don't remember him like that for a reason.
It's Jerry, TO, Randy, and Megatron. Ain't no way we are throwing Irvin in over those including Harrison.
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Bro is he better than Ab fr what about Julio jones Chris Carter tay adams they need to stop bringing up rings in a team sport so dumb bruh
Clutchness big plays I'll take lrvin over marvin anyday
There a reason they called him the play Maker
i got the same list, but Marvin instead of TO
Key smiling like come on mike what about meeeeeeeee I’m a champ!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Chris Carter was beyond amazing!
Never dropped a pass and trained Randy to be great.
Randy’s List is literally correct lol. Everybody else on is on the outside. I actually got Ocho ahead of Irvin, but that’s just me. Forget those rings, y’all seen what that man did. He was always open, and if he got the ball as often as he was open mannnn cmon. If he had a HOF caliber QB, stop it. He’s in easily. If we talking hands, route running, release, WHAT MAKES A WR, Ocho would have to be in anybody’s top 6 or 7. I respect Fitz, Irvin, Julio, Hopkins etc. for their hands but man Ocho had the sweetest feet I ever seen touch a field.
Man Ocho was not better then the Playmaker. Your crazy
@@melvinyoung2264 Shin me, but that’s your opinion. I respect it.
Rice was probably the best blocking receiver in league history, and he ran the reverse in a spectacular manner. When John Taylor had that big catch in the Superbowl, Rice was being triple teamed and he ended up in the highlight blocking the db all of the way down field. No matter how you look at it, Rice was the best to ever do it.
MOSS is the GOAT.
VERY FEW could touch Moss' GOD GIVEN SPEED.
Moss 17+ TDS: 3 TIMES
(Most EVER)
Moss LED THE NFL IN TD Catches: 5 Times (Most EVER)
Moss is the ONLY WR IN NFL HISTORY to AVERAGE over 100 Yards, 1+ Tds, and 6+Receptions per Game across a 16 Game season. (1600+Yards, 16+ Tds, 100+Rec). RICE NEVER DID THAT - and he's known as mr. stats. It's part of why I say MOSS is the GOAT. His 4 Year PEAK Seasons > ANY WR 4 Year Peak Seasons. He's also the ONLY WR IN NFL HISTORY to ever get MVP votes as a ROOKIE. People don't talk about that enough. He is the first, and last, WR to become THE BEST WR ON THE FIELD as a ROOKIE.
He took a passing offense RANKED OUTSIDE THE TOP 12 in passing yards per game and RANKED OUTSIDE THE TOP 10 teams in Points Per Game in 1997 with Chris Carter and Robert Smith, and transformed them with his addition ALONE in 1998 INTO THE GREATEST OFFENSE, to that point, in NFL HISTORY.
Moss ran a 4.25 at 6'4'9 (so almost 6'5) and could've played in the NBA. Jason Williams who played vs Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, said Moss was the best athlete he had ever seen. Bob Pruitt, who is close friends with Carl Lewis, said on the record that Randy Moss had more naturally running talent than Carl Lewis but never saw his full potential because he chose football and not track and field.
Moss also had BETTER HANDS than Megatron and, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, was a BETTER ROUTE RUNNER than Megatron.
Moss took a WASHED UP Randall Cunningham to the playoffs; he took Jeff George to the playoffs; he took a combination of Daunte Culpepper and Gus Frerotte to the playoffs; Brady put up the #1 QBR SEASON of all time PLAYING WITH RANDY MOSS (07/08).
I haven't seen many catch a WR screen and BEAT 6 GUYS to the TD zone when the other team was NOT BLITZING - and Moss did that like 5 times in his career.
Megatron is FREAK OF NATURE but he's #2 all time.
Moss's nickname wasn't "freak," it was SUPERFREAK because in his prime his acceleration was INSANE. For a good example go watch the second to last play of the 2007/2008 Super Bowl vs the Giants (the Undefeated season Super Bowl upset vs Eli Manning). Moss has 5 DBS all 30 yards OFF of him and he BURNS ALL OF THEM.
Megatron - nor really any WR in history other than Bob Hayes and Tyreek Hill could have done that. Michael Strahan said it best: "On that play, I almost had a heart attack. The thing is everybody in the stadium knows Moss is fast, and he still blew past our secondary. It was millimeters from being a catch but we got a finger on it."
great convo i love when they talk mount rushmore
Calvin Johnson got triple and doubled coverage nobody else ever saw that. Give that man some credit flat out
Moss was FACTUALL doubled, tripled, even QUADRUPLED (yes, there's tape) covered more than any WR, easily, in HISTORY. His combination of size and SPEED has neve been seen. MOSS > Megatron. Moss did things Megatron has never done. Moss HANDS > Megatron's Hands FACT.
Megatron couldnt touch Moss' GOD GIVEN SPEED.
Moss 17+ TDS: 3 TIMES
Megatron 17+ TDS: 0 TIMES
Moss LED THE NFL IN TD Catches: 5 Times
Megatron LED THE NFL IN TD Catches: 0 Times
Moss is the ONLY WR IN NFL HISTORY to AVERAGE over 100 Yards, 1+ Tds, and 6+Receptions per Game across a 16 Game season. (1600+Yards, 16+ Tds, 100+Rec). RICE NEVER DID THAT - and he's known as mr. stats. It's part of why I say MOSS is the GOAT. His 4 Year PEAK Seasons > ANY WR 4 Year Peak Seasons. He's also the ONLY WR IN NFL HISTORY to ever get MVP votes as a ROOKIE. People don't talk about that enough. He is the first, and last, WR to become THE BEST WR ON THE FIELD as a ROOKIE.
He took a passing offense RANKED OUTSIDE THE TOP 12 in passing yards per game and RANKED OUTSIDE THE TOP 10 teams in Points Per Game in 1997 with Chris Carter and Robert Smith, and transformed them with his addition ALONE in 1998 INTO THE GREATEST OFFENSE, to that point, in NFL HISTORY.
Moss ran a 4.25 at 6'4'9 (so almost 6'5) and could've played in the NBA. Jason Williams who played vs Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, said Moss was the best athlete he had ever seen. Bob Pruitt, who is close friends with Carl Lewis, said on the record that Randy Moss had more naturally running talent than Carl Lewis but never saw his full potential because he chose football and not track and field.
Moss also had BETTER HANDS than Megatron and, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, was a BETTER ROUTE RUNNER than Megatron.
Moss took a WASHED UP Randall Cunningham to the playoffs; he took Jeff George to the playoffs; he took a combination of Daunte Culpepper and Gus Frerotte to the playoffs; Brady put up the #1 QBR SEASON of all time PLAYING WITH RANDY MOSS (07/08).
There is ZERO empirical, or eye-test, evidence to suggest Megatron is better than Moss. I've never seen Megatron catch a WR screen and BEAT 6 GUYS to the TD zone when the other team was NOT BLITZING - and Moss did that like 5 times in his career. Megatron = ZERO.
Megatron is FREAK OF NATURE but he's #2 all time.
Moss's nickname wasn't "freak," it was SUPERFREAK because in his prime his acceleration was INSANE. For a good example go watch the second to last play of the 2007/2008 Super Bowl vs the Giants (the Undefeated season Super Bowl upset vs Eli Manning). Moss has 5 DBS all 30 yards OFF of him and he BURNS ALL OF THEM.
Megatron - nor really any WR in history other than Bob Hayes and Tyreek Hill could have done that. Michael Strahan said it best: "On that play, I almost had a heart attack. The thing is everybody in the stadium knows Moss is fast, and he still blew past our secondary. It was millimeters from being a catch but we got a finger on it."
During his era, Irvin was considered one the best outside of the g.o.a.t. Considering that Dallas was a run dominant team in that era, he definitely can make the case!!
Irvin is #30 in receiving yards for a career. #65 in receiving touchdowns. If you switch systems and situations, I'm not even sure he's the best WR sitting at the table.
@gbg2003 he's not him and Troy are in the HoF becuase of Emmitt.
@@Eluiciqduring the running back era he was definitely considered a goat.
@@TinoR626You mean that offensive line
@jeromec1983 yes and no, remember when Emmitt sat out wanting money and dalla couldn't run the ball so Jerry had to over pay him. That o-line was fantastic but with out Emmitt they are not winning any sb.
I agree with Randy's list. You gotta include Megatron on that list.
AB had a 5 year stretch where he was the goat
No he wasn't. He 5 year strech wasn't better then Rices 92-96 years. You know when he was in his 30's.
@@TinoR626 you sure about that ?!
@@XxPoizinivyxXJerry had 22 td in a12 game season over. 1,000 years in run era in the West Coast offense for years
@@XxPoizinivyxX Yeah. No question his 5 all pro best ab 4 his 13.9 yards a catch was better and his 15 more td would say he was. Rice was also used in the run game as was better at it. AB did have 543 more yards on 58 more catches but that just 9.3 yards a catch which was under his average of 13.5 yards a catch. Also I'm assuming your talking about his 13-17 years and not his 14-18 years. as in the 14-18 his yards go down but his td go up by 7 still.
Again Rice was in his 30's doing this and if you wanna go same age for age then its not even close rice averaged 16.8 yards a catch had 23 more td's the AB. Lead the league in td 4 times and yards twice. While Rice did have 1273 less yards over that span he also had 191 less catches. Just to have that many catches for Rice you would need to add the next 2 years. So from 87-93 9279 yards 16.2 catch average 100 td, between 25 and 31 oh and he's still all pro every year.
Yeah I'm sure.
I watched all of these guys play, and if we're going to keep it to guys who are retired, I have to put Chris Carter in the mix. That man caught so many balls for critical 1st downs, with fingertip and one handed catches. He and Moss were the greatest WR duo I ever saw. If I were building a team and picking WRs, I'm taking Jerry Rice, Chris Carter, Randy Moss, and Calvin Johnson. I would put Michael Irvin just behind Carter. TO was great but caused too much of a disturbance for many of the teams he was on.
This is a great segment
I LOVE YOU 88 !!!!!! Omg your delivery is masterful !!!!!
T.O ,Jerry, Marvin Harrison,Megatron,Moss ,and if Sterling Sharpe wouldn’t have got hurt ,he would hold all records,NFL go🐐 WR ,Facts
I put Sterling up there still, he was that good
I got goosebumps when he mentioned Starvin Marvin Harrison… I definitely have him in my my Rushmore
He was a no show in the playoffs
@@rayj1013playoffs be damn bruh, teams were focused on taking the ball out of QBs hands ASAP so that means the time in which a WR has to go through the route tree is lessen. This playoff nonsense is dumb because everyone knows that the better team wins and not the better WR group.
Most overlooked wr since 1990
And before you argue it really truly go look at the quarterbacks he played with.
Andre Johnson
This was cool. Very entertaining jerry and randy are on my list
Ig Megatron didn't get double every game in still got his numbers
Jerry Rice isn't one of the faces of Mount Rushmore. He's the entire mountain.
Only 1 guy on that “Mount Rushmore” has won the Super Bowl. Why? Because at the end of the day the Yards and TDS are cool and all. The highlights. *BUT I NEED YOU TO BE A PLAYMAKER WHEN IT COUNTS!*
T.O gave u 9 for 122 . Ain’t his fault Mcnabb was throwing up in the huddle lol
Why do you think Michael mentioned Drew Pearson.
You sound dumb, you need multiple groups of players to win a football game
@@patrickwiley9498 I love TO but he and the Playmaker Have two styles of leadership. Both translate to HOF but only ONE translates to Super Bowl Wins.
@@df6148 I get that and I’m the biggest T.O and u right he wasn’t the best leader but I can’t let super bowls define receivers because it’s such a dependent position . Even if rice don’t win no super bowls and have the same stats , he would still be the GOAT . And for Rice u gotta remember the 49ers was already good before he got there and he had Joe Montana and Steve young . Hall of fame hall of fame lol
I like this list. Rice, Moss, TO, amd Megatron. All are unstoppable
No Sterling Sharpe. The only guy that challenged Jerry year after year. Unstoppable player. Just that injury.. that injury….
at least Randy's list is worthy of being taken seriously unlike Tyreek's 🤣💀
The disrespect to Julio Jones is beyond me manz might not be in the Rushmore but he’s WITHOUT QUESTION top 7
More like top 15
I ❤this segment
Thank u Keyshawn!
Marvin Harrison definitely deserves to be in the conversation.
Look, two ways of looking at this.
First, who are the 4 WR I want on the field regardless of any QB. It's Moss and Megatron on the outside, and Fitz and Tyreek on the inside. The physical freaks who can go up and get it and run past any DB. On the inside, the quick snap movement of Tyreek running quick outs, slants, crossing routes. Fitz, great blocker, sure handed, always shows up in big games.
2nd way talent, stats, accolades, fear, clutchness etc all bunch together. It's Rice without question, then Moss, and then you really can put a bunch of players as your 3/4. It could be TO, Megatron, Hill, Irvin, Cris Carter, Larry Fitzgerald, Sterling Sharpe, Marvin Harrison, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, Andre Johnson, DaVante Adams, Cooper Rush, etc.
Well said
And Jerry must be looking down from his throne at all his kids... Lol. All those names are playing for second place and that's ok... Not one like #80
@@MJ-py7wklol well Jerry had a lot of things go his way.
I always wonder why Emmitt Smith who has MVPs, all pros, most rushing yards and tds all time is never considered the GOAT.
Yet every argument people make for rice, you can make for Emmitt Smith and everyone still has Rice as the GOAT.
The same argument people pick Barry over Emmitt is the same argument people pick moss over rice
@@MikeBNumba6 yeah I agree, but that's how it is with some and others you just can see it! What Smith did was seen before such as Barry, Payton, OJ, Thurman Thomas and a couple others that were on his "level" a little before his era or with Barry, in his era but, I can't name 3 or 4 WRs that was on Rice level. Irvin was excellent and Sterling Sharpe before he got hurt but I can't think of any others that were game changers like Rice. Btw, there are NO Goats, too many moving parts, like you said but, there are levels and Rice was on the highest one and it's not close, imo
where is larry fitzgerald??
Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Terrell Owen's, & Calvin Johnson
Moss has the best list. TO, Rice, Megatron. Honorable mention: A. Brown, C. Carter, Hollt, Bruce, Fitzgerald, S. Smith etc.
All I know is Jerry is the GOAT of receivers no discussion
Admitted to using stickum after it was banned......... thats enough for a discussion.
@@HibatAllah even the pros say that he's the GOAT so that's all
@@jjmmgg87 still cheated..... regardless of opinions. His records are as tainted as Barry Bonds. And that's it.
@@HibatAllah The problem with your statement is this....with NO gloves, in Rice's 2nd year, he had one his best all around seasons and in his 3rd year, he had 22 TDs (23 total) and was on pace for around 30 until the NFL strike it. I say he should have kept the gloves off lol.
@jtremaine23 he still used stickum.......... so, your statement means what ? ? Still cheated.
Once again, Don Hutson gets overlooked. He *really* "changed the game". He was *really* in a league of his own.
Who
Yes he was but today he wouldve been just another guy
@@sirrichard6685 Oh a culture vulture
@@Manderenn Such disrespect
@hahawow1804 No, not really. He retired in 1945. Like seriously. He was a talent for his time. But today, he would be just another NFL WR. I gave him his respect. He was in a league of his own. But in today's league, he wouldn't stand out. And I'm a Packer fan. I'm just being honest. He was a marvel "in his time"
Man I love Irvin a movie about his life would be BOX OFFICE! #88 🐐
I Got A Couple Of MT Rushmores. 1:Jerry Rice, T.O, Moss, Larry Fitz
2: Marvin Harrison, Irving, Cris Carter, Megatron
3: AB, Andre Johnson, Julio Jones, Steve Smith
Antonio Brown, ignore the fact that he lost his marbles. That man was on a whole different planet in the Steelers era of those late 2010s . Complete receiver, so good he had to kick the kicker to kick some sense into him.
If Brown had not become obsessed with fame his stats would have been up there with owens and moss
I like randy moss mt. Rushmore in that order
Compare Moss at 35 and Rice at 35