You Dudes' takes on the situation have always been calm, measured and reassuring throughout this whole process. Not to mention, not clickbaity. Always appreciated
I hope the Dungeon Dudes make more videos exploring other systems, not quite as thoroughly as they have 5e but at least a playlist of the basics, classes, etc .
I began my path with D&D in large part because of your channel. I learned so much as a DM and as a Player in the past year. My first DM'd campaign will be turning 1 year old this Saturday. Whatever path you choose to follow, just know, you have my sincerest thanks for everything you have taught me!
I’m in a similar place as you, my very first D&D exposure outside of my knowledge of the history of the old Satanic Panic was Critical Role. Shortly after that I decided I wanted to play and the Dungeon Dudes were the first channel I found when I started looking for resources and tutorials. So happy to finally see the end of this horrible chapter in D&D’s history
I am very glad to see the SRD under creative commons and I completely agree that committing to creative commons in the future would be a very positive thing for rebuilding trust with WotC.
your last video on this debacle is what inspired me to join your patreon community. your passion for this game and thoughtfulness really comes through. thank you!
Thanks guys, I’m so proud of the way the community came together over this, and you both are no small part of that. Love your analysis, attitude and energy and I think your tone throughout the debacle has been pitch perfect. I’m so glad that you- and we- can get back to doing what we all love. Thanks again. 🙏
I'm very glad you guys made an update video. I've been following this very casually (I am not a content creator so not much would have changed for me) and once they reversed it my first thought was "Ok but what if they change their mind again?" because I did not want to say see the movie or buy books if they were still screwing over you or any of my favorite D&D content creators. So it is good to know that this is now set in stone. I'll always pull for you guys in any way I can because as D&D taught me, when someone attacks the party we all roll initiative.
Bless you both and your team. I really appreciate your emphasis on kindness... that's one of the reasons I came to this community. Your channel was the first one I found when I started learning to GM and I am sticking with you.
Only after trying everything else. And even then during thier announcmeent they kept oging 'you and us are in discussion.' No. they tried to slide this past us, tried lying about it the whole time after they got caught, and tried throwing the new guy under the bus. Had this been their initial move. Fine. As is? I will not activly boycotte their products but nor do they get the same level of trust or respect they had before.
@@techknight3753 I think it is extremely important to acknowledge that they didn't do it because it was the right thing to do. They did it because they were caught lying. When they got caught lying the first time their response was to try and lie better. Only after getting caught twice did they actually do what would have been the right thing after the first lie. Going forward I will only be using 3rd party content until they do everything the dungeon dudes asked them to in this video AND start releasing quality content again. I loved spelljammer as a system but they really dropped 3 half baked books on us like we have all the time in the world to finish it for them.
@@sci7zo This is all true, but it's also still true that this is a dream scenario by the standards of dealing with a massive corporation. Normally they'll just ignore protests and keep doing whatever they wanted to do in the first place, maybe finally giving way with some really shoddy compromise that still leaves things worse off than before. This time they didn't just agree not to the bad thing but actually made things even better than they were before the scandal broke, they obviously didn't do it out of pure good will but it's still worth highlighting just how unbelievably rare an outcome like that is. It's ok to still be upset at the idea of what almost happened and certainly you shouldn't trust them not to be shady again (nobody should have been trusting them in the first place, it's a business), but it's also ok to celebrate a huge and very unlikely victory for the consumers.
My DM recently bought the Pathfinder core set and been looking through it, but we have been continually playing Rime of the Frostmaiden through this whole fiasco. He still has a ton of the other modules we haven't played. Keep playing what you love, be respectful to the design team at Wizards, and keep having fun!
My current campaign (set in the Forgotten Realms) still has at minimum a year's worth of adventures left and I never had any intention of abandoning it. It has always been peppered throughout with fantastic third party adventures I've worked into the narrative. Very glad WotC made the move they did, but the fire they stoked into third party scene should be fun to watch.
When you're done with your Forgotten Realms campaign you should look into the Golarion setting of Pathfinder. Even if you don't want to use that system the setting is something you can still use in 5e. I think the setting is really cool based on what I've seen in the Owlcat video games.
We got an awesome victory, and can't ignore it. DnD is for everyone and we will always fight for creative minds like the dungeon dudes to have a place to share ur ideas. Thx for the great content
Thanks Dudes for always reiterating your love for D&D and the WotC creative team in all these videos. Personally I'm only interested in watching your 5e/OneD&D videos so I'll skip the others, but your D&D videos are miles ahead of the pack and I really look forward to more!
When you first reported on this situation, I could hear the anger you were trying to suppress for the sake of professionalism. In this video, I can see the relief in your eyes. I respect the professionalism on both accounts, but I know which I prefer to see from you. Just know, wherever the path takes your channel next, I am long for the ride. You go, dancing Ewoks! You GO!
@@mikeunderwood734 it's in the star wars meme video they mentioned and linked below the vid. I definitely laughed out loud when seeing that. And of course Princess Leia had to be Ginny Di
I’m very happy for you guys, and the community as a whole. Y’all have been my favorite channel for rpg content, and always will be. I’m glad that weight is off your shoulders.
Honestly, this whole thing has inspired me, both to see if I could maybe create some cool content for D&D, but also to give some other systems a shot. This is a historical victory for our whole community, and I'm proud to have supported the Dungeon Dudes as well as other creators.
Great take on the situation dudes. Hope you guys get at least a bit of peace, quiet, and relaxation after this whole mess. Can't wait to see what the future holds!
This is such a professionally presented and well thought out video. You summarized the entire situation perfectly and without skewing the story. Much respect to you both. I would love to see you guys grow this channel to things aside from just D&D. Would love to see some footage of you guys playing other table top games. Stay well!
Fairplay to all those who kicked back against this and got the result. Honestly, I didn't. Just didn't have the energy, life is mental enough right now, and I rationalised within the first couple days that... no-one can take my game away from me. The game that I play with my mates belongs to us and even if Hasbro tried to enforce the most draconian measures possible... no-one could stop us playing the game we wanted to play. That said, I do appreciate just how much of an attack this was for so many, especially Dungeon Dudes, and I'm really glad that the energy people DID put in has paid off. Well done. EDIT: Also wanted to add, thank you specifically to Dungeon Dudes for staying so measured, balanced and rational through all this. There are a couple of D&D TH-camrs who I felt were almost relishing the controversy because they were able to be releasing multiple videos, sometimes within the same day, of speculation and rumours and even a bit of hysteria at points. Jumping the gun, acting on unverified information. That sort of thing makes it harder for people to find out what's really going on and what they can do about it. But the Dudes stayed on-point, presented only verifiable facts and just worked to make sure people were as informed as they could be. And that's one of the reasons I think the Dudes are such an important force for good in the TTRPG online space.
@@Samael767 Yeah, I don't wanna name names. As the Dudes said, we should be kind. This was something that raised a variety of different emotions in people and I'm not gonna be so cynical as to assume, without evidence, that anyone intentionally cashed in on that energy. It did, however, create one of those situations where there's an important conversation that needs to be had but its hard to hear anyone for all the shouting. That's just the Internet, probably ain't changing anytime soon. Which makes me all the more grateful that I could turn to the Dudes and their calm, reasonable approach.
Please, I would love if you guys did class guides, and teir lists, and all that for pathfinder 2e. I think that would be huge for a lot of people who love pathfinder, and in the last month have found less content for it than what they are used to for DnD
The Dungeon Dudes don't know the Pathfinder system very well, so if they make a tier list it'll based on bad or incomplete information. The reason they can make those videos for D&D is because they're veterans of that system.
This video was awesome! You dudes’ take on this situation was level headed and took into account all that were involved and affected, that was amazing. I appreciate how calmly you covered the situation and for being a beacon of hope for the community. Can’t wait to see what’s on the horizon! Thanks so much!
Dudes, thank you for being so informative, clear, and calm in your videos throughout this whole trash fire. You managed to be voices of reason and compassion without weakening your rhetoric or compromising your position, which is such an excellent example to set. May the crit fairy bless your dice.
Thank you dudes for weathering the storm. It was an honor to fight with you. I really hope the do as you say and let the artificer free to the 3pp community. I would love to see where it can go
"The dungeon dudes just dont need to be a D&D Channel"--I literally cheered out loud when I heard this. I can't tell you how excited I'm to have content creators as great as you guys to look into other TTRPGS that do not get the attention. Creator coverage is so important to introduce players to new and existing smaller systems to draw in those players who would play or run the games if only they knew how cool they were.
11:35 Honestly, Kelly, your call to take a step back reminded me of those moments watching Dungeons of Drakkenheim when the party was exhausted, the adrenaline was wearing off and Monty confirmed "yes, we are out of initiative."
lmao, i hadnt seen the Return of the Jedi edit, thats great. You guys as Ewoks and Ginni Di as Leia were particularly spot on lol. on a more serious note though, i do want to thank you both again for explaining all the OGL drama in laymen's terms, it really did help me wrap my head around everything that's going on. Now that this is all more or less finished, ill be interested to see what content you guys keep creating, and hopefully this all means 5e will keep thriving no matter what Wizards decides to do with OneDND going forward. now if only i could find a group to play with lol. Guess ill have to keep scrolling through the r/LFG some more.
In addition to the Star Wars themed video, Double Crit Fail did this: "OGL 1.1 : Hasbro vs the World D&D Avengers Parody" th-cam.com/video/sixCUcrusu4/w-d-xo.html In the comments on that video, people are brought to tears.
Ok, so I was so disappointed and disheartened when this all went down, because my group and I have been developing our own homebrew world over the past year now, and I am so proud of how far we have come. This is my first dive into writing my own campaign setting. We still have a long way to go. But the thought of being shot down before we even got started was a real gut punch. I'm so glad for the overwhelming response from the community that let WOTC know exactly where we all stand with what they were doing. Our voices were heard loud and proud! Now I can continue with the work on my very first campaign setting.
It wouldn't have effected you. I'm a DM of over 20 years and all of my homebrew was unaffected because I don't sell books. So unless you have an audience to sell your work to, it meant nothing.
@@jfast8256 That's what I'm saying. I'm writing my first campaign setting to market and sell. So yes, this absolutely would have affected me. And I've been DM'ing since 1986.
@@LichsLairStudio Ahhh, I see. The way it was written initially, it sounded like you were just a DM homebrewing for your friends. That is much more clear.
You guys have always been the primary inspiration for our channel's existence. Very happy to hear the relief in your voices in this video. Keep being you. It changes lives.
I love your challenge to Wizards. Extending the 5E SRD for artificer and additional spells SRDs for older versions especially pre 3rd edition Commitment to publish an SRD for the next edition in CC Those three things would restore trust in WOTC. Heck do that and I'll go watch the movie even if it gets panned by critics and audiences.
One thing I’ll say is that a lot of your videos on “How to Build a ____” would work really well for Pathfinder, especially since there’s so many newbies to that system now. Not saying to stop DND stuff-it wouldn’t be my place to-but I feel like now is a time where that kind of video would perform very well.
I love you guys, I love your calm, your reason, and your integrity. And yes like you said I too am excited about new roleplaying games but I’m also excited to get back to DND and getting back to the table!
Because of your passionate video on the OGL, I have started watching Drakkenheim, started at the first at 1.75 speed, Just started shadows last night, almost caught up!! Loving it!!
You guys have helped me with the videos you made that allowed me to do my very first homebrew campaign's for a bunch of people that never played or have played D&D. So I have an Idea for some future videos. 1. Rating and evaluating sub-classes made by Kobold Press, Legendary Games, Mage Hand Press, Ghostfire Games, and Hitpoint Press books. 2. More interesting build videos and even sub-class repair videos 3. And lastly exploring other TTRPG's like Pathfinder 2e, Starfinder, Call of Cuthulu, and more. I hope you like these suggestions and thanks for being an awesome group of Dudes.
very much appreciate your effort to share your thoughts and ideas about manging forward productively! 100% agree with those suggestions for WotC to show a commitment with the SRD content
That message to WotC, so clearly laid out by Monty, is EXACTLY what I feel is so necessary to be put on the table, but we had yet to see anyone tell. I cannot thank you enough for your clarity of vison, and for voicing what is needed to actually build a future correctly - not just barely saving what was established decades ago, should never have been jeopardized like it's just been, and has indeed never been brought up to date with the current state of things. SRDs should evolve at the same pace the designers learn and refine the game, because if any improvement has been deemed necessary, then how can an SRD be justifiably left stuck in a lesser, lacking past? The accumulation of hindrances stemming from such a locked state only creates an ever widening gap of discrepancies and frustrations as time goes on, which are nothing but poison to the initial intent of supporting the creation of good content for the product. I truly, truly hope your message is heard, and acted upon. This just here is why you Dudes have a special place in my heart. 💙
I'll always love Dnd, but I'm glad this experience taught us to take a step back and appreciate other options (I'm getting really into Starfinder now). Also, I didn't realize how biased I had been in favor of "official DnD material." I'm looking forward to seeing more content about 3rd party Dnd material, so I can better decide where else to put my money to support independent creators. There's so much out there, I need some help to sort through it all!
I love you guys, and you guys really don't have to be apologetic about liking and wanting to play DND, the game isn't suddenly evil because of some upper level corporate decisions and people aren't evil for enjoying to play it.
Enabling those corporate aholes is what caused the debacle in the first place so yeah, after everything, still choosing to promote and give said corporate aholes is indeed evil. Well, more stupid and hypocritical than evil I guess
@@DargorV they did not enable them. They stood up against them, now that they won there is nothing to stand up against anymore. If you boycot dnd now that weve won the only thing you are doing is denying yourself fun. Corporate is always going to be greedy you may as well stop playing any game that is not completely free. (Technically core dnd is completely free btw) our goal wasnt to stop greed, it was to prevent our game and hobby from dying.
@@jeroen92 People who are not interested in taking this win are just a bunch of hypocrites who tried to hijack the movement to boost whatever they were playing before the OGL drama started...
@chad hale god some pathfinder players are so blatantly obvious in their motives. Even if I was to stop playing dnd I wouldn't play pathfinder at this point just because of how incredibly zealous and toxic the playerbase seems to be. Not a single topic about dnd can be discussed without a pathfinder fanboy trying to convince people to stop playing dnd.
I'm glad you took a second to shoutout the actual creative team at DnD. There's almost zero chance that people like Perkins or Crawford wanted this to happen. I can just imagine one of them being like "We are in the middle of re-designing our system and relying on the community's trust in doing so, why the hell are you burning our community to the ground?"
You guys are amazing. I respect your work and constantly sent links to your videos for gms and players. I believe in what you are doing and I hope you continue.
I love how incredibly Canadian the dungeon dudes are. Alway vary clam and calculated. You guys are amazing and the reason I got back into dnd since 3.5. Also the reason I'm branching out into other systems. Never stop guys no matter what happens with legal issues. Adapt and over come.
Thank you Dungeon Dudes. I was confused by the OGL stuff and WolfheartFPS recommended your first video on the OGL, and I've watched the second and this one as well. Thank you for explaining what was happening. You made it so that I could understand what was going on. I will check out your other videos too, especially since dnd confuses me as well. My brother has been teaching me how to play dnd, and I'm still learning. Thank you for spreading your message about being kind.
I can't imagine how stressful this past month must have been for you. I want to thank you for finding the right tone of holding Hasbro and WotC accountable while also maintaining a level headed and thoughtful approach to how you handled these contentious topics!
I really hope you guys dip more into 3rd party content for your reviews and builds. Following what has happened over the last month or so I think more people will be buying this content over official content, I know I will be, and it would be a great way to support fellow content creators
Thank guys… I know so many people that this has upset but are ready to put this matter to bed I totally agree a little more show of good will on the One D&D (plus artificer) would go along way at this point. Thanks for the video
I've really appreciated your measured and informative framing throughout this whole thing. It was clear that you were angry. But you were also clear and fair, even as things changed quickly. I look forward to your continuing content and need to go get caught up on Drakkenheim.
This was a great balanced video on this issue. I hope this mostly positive victory for our community inspires the general public to also find peaceful yet effective ways to battle the greed of big business in other industries as well. Food, housing, schooling and medical costs continue to sky rocket, big oil is profiting more than ever and instead of investing in better/more refineries to help the little guy with costs while making their own future operations go more smoothly big oil is just pocketing all the extra money. And the government is well the government. We have seen that community action combined with voting with our wallets and help from only a few people on the inside can gain us victories. And, these types of victories are so much better both for us and for these industries than rolling over and playing dead or giving up or running to the government for help. We did it, for now at least, with D and D. Now let's do it in other industries as well.
Needed to chime in fellas on you're latest upload video. You guys are "Top Shelf", period. You've had my respect long before this "OGL hiccup" happened and now, my respect for both of you guys has skyrocketed. Definitely looking forward to all the new content you have scheduled this year and beyond!
I'd like to add one thing: while WotC may have broken the trust of the community, it is still worth commending WotC for their choice of putting the SRD up under the Creative Commons license. Just like vocalizing being upset at a business decision a company makes, it is equally important to let them know when they do a good thing. We want to *encourage them to keep making good decisions.*
Sorry, I don't think they don't deserve anything....they had to do what they did, their paycheck was hit hard. They planned to screw people with no concern at all...that is who they are
"haha you sure got us those two times you lil scamps, keep up the good work" no. Keep up the pressure. They are owned by a large corporation and the only thing we can expect them to do is get away with as much shitty behavior as they can. We need WotC know we are ready to jump ship at a moments notice.
I don't understand how they broke it. They explained their rationale for the changes and apologized for creating concern, agreed to wall the changes back, walked them back, and then went even further. I'm glad to see so many people jumping stragiht to their pitchforks to tear down a corporation, but I feel like this is a bit of a missfire.
Fantastic job Dudes cutting straight to the point here with the following statement: "I hope that the higher ups at wizard of the coast and Hasbro look at the situation very carefully and strongly consider committing now to releasing the next edition of Dungeons and Dragons with an SRD that is Creative Commons immediately upon the release of that new edition. I think that committing to that course of action now would go a long way to rebuilding the trust in the community." This couldn't have been said any better. 100%
I am happy for all the content creators for D&D, I am also happy I now switched to pathfinder 2e and won't support d&d with my cash again. I really hope you guys get a pathfinder 2e conversion for your stuff.
If we are to look at the positives of this situation, TTRPG has definitely gained in terms of diversity - other systems are becoming more visible and recognizable, which is a huge plus! I'm also glad that your content will be more diversified, I think it will be interesting not only for viewers but also for you.
You Dudes' takes on the situation have always been calm, measured and reassuring throughout this whole process. Not to mention, not clickbaity. Always appreciated
I'm glad they had a "take" on the situation, unlike a certain other group of nerdy voice actors.
@@gustaafargoan not needed
@@gustaafargoan they have contracts they are legally bound by.
@@JuanSewDLKS I agree that they are not needed.
"not clickbaity" deserves extra credit! I love how composed and professional this channel can be
That was the most exhausted “we are the dungeon dudes” I’ve ever heard. And it was so very relatable. Bless you guys and your team ❤
The other OGL video also had me really feel for these guys and all content creators
You can see the bags under Monty's eyes. It must have been so stressful for them! Hope you're getting more sleep, Monty!?
12:15 “The Dungeon Dudes don’t just need to be a D&D channel”
Same ✅
Always good to see you around, Bob. Solidarity is tight
Bob react to my hot take
What are you doing out here? Get outta ere'. Go build another world....Bob.
Just kidding, but for real I'm looking for that source book Mr. Builder.
Look a wild Bob has appeared!
I hope the Dungeon Dudes make more videos exploring other systems, not quite as thoroughly as they have 5e but at least a playlist of the basics, classes, etc .
I like the featuring of third-party books on the bookshelf behind you guys. A good touch.
You can see the meaning of their thoughts with each new video.
That was the first thing that I noticed. What a great maybe not so subtle touch
I would love to see them talk more about third party content!
I began my path with D&D in large part because of your channel. I learned so much as a DM and as a Player in the past year. My first DM'd campaign will be turning 1 year old this Saturday. Whatever path you choose to follow, just know, you have my sincerest thanks for everything you have taught me!
keep going brother. and don't forget a TPK if done right is nice
I’m in a similar place as you, my very first D&D exposure outside of my knowledge of the history of the old Satanic Panic was Critical Role. Shortly after that I decided I wanted to play and the Dungeon Dudes were the first channel I found when I started looking for resources and tutorials.
So happy to finally see the end of this horrible chapter in D&D’s history
Great video and a great mindset. Will keep following you and your "classes" videos.
I am very glad to see the SRD under creative commons and I completely agree that committing to creative commons in the future would be a very positive thing for rebuilding trust with WotC.
Y’all make some amazing stuff. I’d love to continue seeing more in the future.
Hi there! Definitely agree
your last video on this debacle is what inspired me to join your patreon community. your passion for this game and thoughtfulness really comes through. thank you!
Thanks guys, I’m so proud of the way the community came together over this, and you both are no small part of that. Love your analysis, attitude and energy and I think your tone throughout the debacle has been pitch perfect. I’m so glad that you- and we- can get back to doing what we all love. Thanks again. 🙏
I'm very glad you guys made an update video. I've been following this very casually (I am not a content creator so not much would have changed for me) and once they reversed it my first thought was "Ok but what if they change their mind again?" because I did not want to say see the movie or buy books if they were still screwing over you or any of my favorite D&D content creators. So it is good to know that this is now set in stone. I'll always pull for you guys in any way I can because as D&D taught me, when someone attacks the party we all roll initiative.
I love the Dungeon Dudes, these guys are like the paladins of this world
Yes. In fact, I call them the Dungeon Douches. Because they're exactly like Paladins. (this is all in good fun, please no hate)
Well stated Kelly and Monty! Thank you for all that you do.
Bless you both and your team. I really appreciate your emphasis on kindness... that's one of the reasons I came to this community. Your channel was the first one I found when I started learning to GM and I am sticking with you.
I think Monty put it best... this is a dream scenario. They really just... listened, and not just that, they took instant action... (begrudgingly)
Only after trying everything else. And even then during thier announcmeent they kept oging 'you and us are in discussion.' No. they tried to slide this past us, tried lying about it the whole time after they got caught, and tried throwing the new guy under the bus.
Had this been their initial move. Fine. As is? I will not activly boycotte their products but nor do they get the same level of trust or respect they had before.
@@singletona082 Oh don't get me wrong, they didn't do it happily, but they did it.
@@techknight3753 I think it is extremely important to acknowledge that they didn't do it because it was the right thing to do. They did it because they were caught lying. When they got caught lying the first time their response was to try and lie better. Only after getting caught twice did they actually do what would have been the right thing after the first lie.
Going forward I will only be using 3rd party content until they do everything the dungeon dudes asked them to in this video AND start releasing quality content again. I loved spelljammer as a system but they really dropped 3 half baked books on us like we have all the time in the world to finish it for them.
"Instant"
@@sci7zo This is all true, but it's also still true that this is a dream scenario by the standards of dealing with a massive corporation. Normally they'll just ignore protests and keep doing whatever they wanted to do in the first place, maybe finally giving way with some really shoddy compromise that still leaves things worse off than before. This time they didn't just agree not to the bad thing but actually made things even better than they were before the scandal broke, they obviously didn't do it out of pure good will but it's still worth highlighting just how unbelievably rare an outcome like that is.
It's ok to still be upset at the idea of what almost happened and certainly you shouldn't trust them not to be shady again (nobody should have been trusting them in the first place, it's a business), but it's also ok to celebrate a huge and very unlikely victory for the consumers.
My DM recently bought the Pathfinder core set and been looking through it, but we have been continually playing Rime of the Frostmaiden through this whole fiasco. He still has a ton of the other modules we haven't played. Keep playing what you love, be respectful to the design team at Wizards, and keep having fun!
and buy more 3rd party content!
@@badmojo0777 oh yes I buy plenty from 3PP!
Pf2e ftw
My current campaign (set in the Forgotten Realms) still has at minimum a year's worth of adventures left and I never had any intention of abandoning it. It has always been peppered throughout with fantastic third party adventures I've worked into the narrative. Very glad WotC made the move they did, but the fire they stoked into third party scene should be fun to watch.
When you're done with your Forgotten Realms campaign you should look into the Golarion setting of Pathfinder. Even if you don't want to use that system the setting is something you can still use in 5e. I think the setting is really cool based on what I've seen in the Owlcat video games.
Thanks guys
We got an awesome victory, and can't ignore it. DnD is for everyone and we will always fight for creative minds like the dungeon dudes to have a place to share ur ideas. Thx for the great content
Thanks Dudes for always reiterating your love for D&D and the WotC creative team in all these videos. Personally I'm only interested in watching your 5e/OneD&D videos so I'll skip the others, but your D&D videos are miles ahead of the pack and I really look forward to more!
When you first reported on this situation, I could hear the anger you were trying to suppress for the sake of professionalism. In this video, I can see the relief in your eyes. I respect the professionalism on both accounts, but I know which I prefer to see from you. Just know, wherever the path takes your channel next, I am long for the ride.
You go, dancing Ewoks! You GO!
Someone turned them into dancing Ewoks? Where is this video? This is something I NEED to see.
@@mikeunderwood734 it's in the star wars meme video they mentioned and linked below the vid. I definitely laughed out loud when seeing that. And of course Princess Leia had to be Ginny Di
I’m very happy for you guys, and the community as a whole. Y’all have been my favorite channel for rpg content, and always will be. I’m glad that weight is off your shoulders.
Thank you. I am happy that we are growing so closely as a community.
Looking forward to seeing how the channel evolves, happy gaming!
Honestly, this whole thing has inspired me, both to see if I could maybe create some cool content for D&D, but also to give some other systems a shot. This is a historical victory for our whole community, and I'm proud to have supported the Dungeon Dudes as well as other creators.
Great take on the situation dudes. Hope you guys get at least a bit of peace, quiet, and relaxation after this whole mess. Can't wait to see what the future holds!
This is such a professionally presented and well thought out video. You summarized the entire situation perfectly and without skewing the story. Much respect to you both. I would love to see you guys grow this channel to things aside from just D&D. Would love to see some footage of you guys playing other table top games. Stay well!
Fairplay to all those who kicked back against this and got the result.
Honestly, I didn't. Just didn't have the energy, life is mental enough right now, and I rationalised within the first couple days that... no-one can take my game away from me. The game that I play with my mates belongs to us and even if Hasbro tried to enforce the most draconian measures possible... no-one could stop us playing the game we wanted to play.
That said, I do appreciate just how much of an attack this was for so many, especially Dungeon Dudes, and I'm really glad that the energy people DID put in has paid off. Well done.
EDIT: Also wanted to add, thank you specifically to Dungeon Dudes for staying so measured, balanced and rational through all this. There are a couple of D&D TH-camrs who I felt were almost relishing the controversy because they were able to be releasing multiple videos, sometimes within the same day, of speculation and rumours and even a bit of hysteria at points. Jumping the gun, acting on unverified information. That sort of thing makes it harder for people to find out what's really going on and what they can do about it.
But the Dudes stayed on-point, presented only verifiable facts and just worked to make sure people were as informed as they could be. And that's one of the reasons I think the Dudes are such an important force for good in the TTRPG online space.
Couldn't agree more with this. This channel never fell to rage-bait, unlike some others I can think of...
@@Samael767 Yeah, I don't wanna name names. As the Dudes said, we should be kind.
This was something that raised a variety of different emotions in people and I'm not gonna be so cynical as to assume, without evidence, that anyone intentionally cashed in on that energy.
It did, however, create one of those situations where there's an important conversation that needs to be had but its hard to hear anyone for all the shouting. That's just the Internet, probably ain't changing anytime soon.
Which makes me all the more grateful that I could turn to the Dudes and their calm, reasonable approach.
@@django3422Thank you for saying everything I wanted to say myself.
Thanks so much for everything you do dudes! Love you both and the team behind you too!
Y’all still top of my list. Keep moving on and rocking it out Dudes!
Excellent work on this video- couldn’t agree more with each point made!
Please, I would love if you guys did class guides, and teir lists, and all that for pathfinder 2e. I think that would be huge for a lot of people who love pathfinder, and in the last month have found less content for it than what they are used to for DnD
Knights of Last Call have already done all of that content that you're asking about.
The Dungeon Dudes don't know the Pathfinder system very well, so if they make a tier list it'll based on bad or incomplete information. The reason they can make those videos for D&D is because they're veterans of that system.
Love you guys! Thank you for the call for closure :)
This was a chill chat, thanks everyone it's appreciated keep being awesome 🩵
This video was awesome! You dudes’ take on this situation was level headed and took into account all that were involved and affected, that was amazing. I appreciate how calmly you covered the situation and for being a beacon of hope for the community. Can’t wait to see what’s on the horizon! Thanks so much!
Dudes, thank you for being so informative, clear, and calm in your videos throughout this whole trash fire. You managed to be voices of reason and compassion without weakening your rhetoric or compromising your position, which is such an excellent example to set. May the crit fairy bless your dice.
Always appreciate your content and the way you break things down from a calm and balanced perspective.
I'm thrilled for all of us but especially for guys like you. Keep up the great work.
Thank you dudes for weathering the storm. It was an honor to fight with you. I really hope the do as you say and let the artificer free to the 3pp community. I would love to see where it can go
I’m looking forward to seeing 5e and new content for Drakkenheim. We love you the Dudes
Really appreciate you guys level headed and objective assessment throughout this process. As always, excellent content!
"The dungeon dudes just dont need to be a D&D Channel"--I literally cheered out loud when I heard this. I can't tell you how excited I'm to have content creators as great as you guys to look into other TTRPGS that do not get the attention. Creator coverage is so important to introduce players to new and existing smaller systems to draw in those players who would play or run the games if only they knew how cool they were.
This video (and you guys) are pure class. Very insightful and honestly inspiring.
11:35 Honestly, Kelly, your call to take a step back reminded me of those moments watching Dungeons of Drakkenheim when the party was exhausted, the adrenaline was wearing off and Monty confirmed "yes, we are out of initiative."
Perfectly said. Thank you guys, as always I’m looking forward to your next videos and content
I once saw a person from the military on TV say, "Trust is gained in drops, and lost in buckets."
lmao, i hadnt seen the Return of the Jedi edit, thats great. You guys as Ewoks and Ginni Di as Leia were particularly spot on lol.
on a more serious note though, i do want to thank you both again for explaining all the OGL drama in laymen's terms, it really did help me wrap my head around everything that's going on.
Now that this is all more or less finished, ill be interested to see what content you guys keep creating, and hopefully this all means 5e will keep thriving no matter what Wizards decides to do with OneDND going forward.
now if only i could find a group to play with lol. Guess ill have to keep scrolling through the r/LFG some more.
In addition to the Star Wars themed video, Double Crit Fail did this: "OGL 1.1 : Hasbro vs the World D&D Avengers Parody"
th-cam.com/video/sixCUcrusu4/w-d-xo.html
In the comments on that video, people are brought to tears.
You guys did a great job. It was actually your facial expressions in the first video that really got my attention.
Ok, so I was so disappointed and disheartened when this all went down, because my group and I have been developing our own homebrew world over the past year now, and I am so proud of how far we have come. This is my first dive into writing my own campaign setting. We still have a long way to go. But the thought of being shot down before we even got started was a real gut punch. I'm so glad for the overwhelming response from the community that let WOTC know exactly where we all stand with what they were doing. Our voices were heard loud and proud! Now I can continue with the work on my very first campaign setting.
It wouldn't have effected you. I'm a DM of over 20 years and all of my homebrew was unaffected because I don't sell books. So unless you have an audience to sell your work to, it meant nothing.
@@jfast8256
That's what I'm saying. I'm writing my first campaign setting to market and sell. So yes, this absolutely would have affected me.
And I've been DM'ing since 1986.
@@LichsLairStudio Ahhh, I see. The way it was written initially, it sounded like you were just a DM homebrewing for your friends. That is much more clear.
You guys have always been the primary inspiration for our channel's existence. Very happy to hear the relief in your voices in this video.
Keep being you. It changes lives.
I love your challenge to Wizards. Extending the 5E SRD for artificer and additional spells
SRDs for older versions especially pre 3rd edition
Commitment to publish an SRD for the next edition in CC
Those three things would restore trust in WOTC.
Heck do that and I'll go watch the movie even if it gets panned by critics and audiences.
One thing I’ll say is that a lot of your videos on “How to Build a ____” would work really well for Pathfinder, especially since there’s so many newbies to that system now. Not saying to stop DND stuff-it wouldn’t be my place to-but I feel like now is a time where that kind of video would perform very well.
I love you guys, I love your calm, your reason, and your integrity. And yes like you said I too am excited about new roleplaying games but I’m also excited to get back to DND and getting back to the table!
Thank you for the breakdown and the insight.
Love you guys, very excited to see what will come in the next months!
Honestly, you guys are awesome, keep up the great work. 👍
Because of your passionate video on the OGL, I have started watching Drakkenheim, started at the first at 1.75 speed, Just started shadows last night, almost caught up!! Loving it!!
You both explain things in a great way. I also really appreciate the optimism you you have for moving forward. Thanks for being amazing Dudes.
You guys have helped me with the videos you made that allowed me to do my very first homebrew campaign's for a bunch of people that never played or have played D&D. So I have an Idea for some future videos.
1. Rating and evaluating sub-classes made by Kobold Press, Legendary Games, Mage Hand Press, Ghostfire Games, and Hitpoint Press books.
2. More interesting build videos and even sub-class repair videos
3. And lastly exploring other TTRPG's like Pathfinder 2e, Starfinder, Call of Cuthulu, and more.
I hope you like these suggestions and thanks for being an awesome group of Dudes.
very much appreciate your effort to share your thoughts and ideas about manging forward productively! 100% agree with those suggestions for WotC to show a commitment with the SRD content
That message to WotC, so clearly laid out by Monty, is EXACTLY what I feel is so necessary to be put on the table, but we had yet to see anyone tell.
I cannot thank you enough for your clarity of vison, and for voicing what is needed to actually build a future correctly - not just barely saving what was established decades ago, should never have been jeopardized like it's just been, and has indeed never been brought up to date with the current state of things.
SRDs should evolve at the same pace the designers learn and refine the game, because if any improvement has been deemed necessary, then how can an SRD be justifiably left stuck in a lesser, lacking past? The accumulation of hindrances stemming from such a locked state only creates an ever widening gap of discrepancies and frustrations as time goes on, which are nothing but poison to the initial intent of supporting the creation of good content for the product.
I truly, truly hope your message is heard, and acted upon. This just here is why you Dudes have a special place in my heart. 💙
Love you guys, your approach to this topic has been the best since its beginning. "Be kind" is the best takeaway!
I'll always love Dnd, but I'm glad this experience taught us to take a step back and appreciate other options (I'm getting really into Starfinder now). Also, I didn't realize how biased I had been in favor of "official DnD material." I'm looking forward to seeing more content about 3rd party Dnd material, so I can better decide where else to put my money to support independent creators. There's so much out there, I need some help to sort through it all!
Thank you for all of this
Will continue playing DnD and supporting you both!
I’ve been waiting for you gentlemen to make a video helping me understand the situation. Thank you!
You guys are awesome. Thanks for all the awesome content in the past and to come!
wow - thanks again for covering this guys, much appreciated
You are BY FAR the best D&D channel on Earth. Keep up the good work!!!
I love you guys, and you guys really don't have to be apologetic about liking and wanting to play DND, the game isn't suddenly evil because of some upper level corporate decisions and people aren't evil for enjoying to play it.
Enabling those corporate aholes is what caused the debacle in the first place so yeah, after everything, still choosing to promote and give said corporate aholes is indeed evil. Well, more stupid and hypocritical than evil I guess
@@DargorV they did not enable them. They stood up against them, now that they won there is nothing to stand up against anymore. If you boycot dnd now that weve won the only thing you are doing is denying yourself fun. Corporate is always going to be greedy you may as well stop playing any game that is not completely free. (Technically core dnd is completely free btw) our goal wasnt to stop greed, it was to prevent our game and hobby from dying.
@@jeroen92 People who are not interested in taking this win are just a bunch of hypocrites who tried to hijack the movement to boost whatever they were playing before the OGL drama started...
@@NickStrife agreed
@chad hale god some pathfinder players are so blatantly obvious in their motives. Even if I was to stop playing dnd I wouldn't play pathfinder at this point just because of how incredibly zealous and toxic the playerbase seems to be. Not a single topic about dnd can be discussed without a pathfinder fanboy trying to convince people to stop playing dnd.
I'm glad you took a second to shoutout the actual creative team at DnD. There's almost zero chance that people like Perkins or Crawford wanted this to happen. I can just imagine one of them being like "We are in the middle of re-designing our system and relying on the community's trust in doing so, why the hell are you burning our community to the ground?"
Thank you for your responsible abd professional response to this drama!
You guys are amazing. I respect your work and constantly sent links to your videos for gms and players. I believe in what you are doing and I hope you continue.
The last few days have felt like the party on Endor after the Death Star II blew up for the TTRPG community
You guys are awesome... Keep it up, the community needs you!
I love how incredibly Canadian the dungeon dudes are. Alway vary clam and calculated. You guys are amazing and the reason I got back into dnd since 3.5. Also the reason I'm branching out into other systems. Never stop guys no matter what happens with legal issues. Adapt and over come.
Thank you for the calm good sense through all of this!
Thank you Dungeon Dudes. I was confused by the OGL stuff and WolfheartFPS recommended your first video on the OGL, and I've watched the second and this one as well. Thank you for explaining what was happening. You made it so that I could understand what was going on. I will check out your other videos too, especially since dnd confuses me as well. My brother has been teaching me how to play dnd, and I'm still learning. Thank you for spreading your message about being kind.
big thumbs up on the kobold press books in the background! i took advantage of the humble bundle and now i am hooked!
Thank you for the clarifications on all of this!
I’m ready for everything to get back to normal.
I can't imagine how stressful this past month must have been for you. I want to thank you for finding the right tone of holding Hasbro and WotC accountable while also maintaining a level headed and thoughtful approach to how you handled these contentious topics!
I've always been a fan but these videos about what is going on with D&D are so fantastic, calm, measured, epic....
My Dudes, excellent video. Calm, caring, and informative. Looking forward to a great future together for all of us.
I really hope you guys dip more into 3rd party content for your reviews and builds. Following what has happened over the last month or so I think more people will be buying this content over official content, I know I will be, and it would be a great way to support fellow content creators
Thank guys… I know so many people that this has upset but are ready to put this matter to bed
I totally agree a little more show of good will on the One D&D (plus artificer) would go along way at this point.
Thanks for the video
I've really appreciated your measured and informative framing throughout this whole thing. It was clear that you were angry. But you were also clear and fair, even as things changed quickly. I look forward to your continuing content and need to go get caught up on Drakkenheim.
A very calm look at things. Keep up the good work dudes
Nice video. Thanks for fighting for us!
This was a great balanced video on this issue. I hope this mostly positive victory for our community inspires the general public to also find peaceful yet effective ways to battle the greed of big business in other industries as well.
Food, housing, schooling and medical costs continue to sky rocket, big oil is profiting more than ever and instead of investing in better/more refineries to help the little guy with costs while making their own future operations go more smoothly big oil is just pocketing all the extra money. And the government is well the government.
We have seen that community action combined with voting with our wallets and help from only a few people on the inside can gain us victories. And, these types of victories are so much better both for us and for these industries than rolling over and playing dead or giving up or running to the government for help. We did it, for now at least, with D and D. Now let's do it in other industries as well.
Needed to chime in fellas on you're latest upload video.
You guys are "Top Shelf", period.
You've had my respect long before this "OGL hiccup" happened and now, my respect for both of you guys has skyrocketed.
Definitely looking forward to all the new content you have scheduled this year and beyond!
I'd like to add one thing: while WotC may have broken the trust of the community, it is still worth commending WotC for their choice of putting the SRD up under the Creative Commons license. Just like vocalizing being upset at a business decision a company makes, it is equally important to let them know when they do a good thing. We want to *encourage them to keep making good decisions.*
Sorry, I don't think they don't deserve anything....they had to do what they did, their paycheck was hit hard. They planned to screw people with no concern at all...that is who they are
"haha you sure got us those two times you lil scamps, keep up the good work"
no. Keep up the pressure. They are owned by a large corporation and the only thing we can expect them to do is get away with as much shitty behavior as they can. We need WotC know we are ready to jump ship at a moments notice.
I don't understand how they broke it. They explained their rationale for the changes and apologized for creating concern, agreed to wall the changes back, walked them back, and then went even further. I'm glad to see so many people jumping stragiht to their pitchforks to tear down a corporation, but I feel like this is a bit of a missfire.
Fantastic job Dudes cutting straight to the point here with the following statement: "I hope that the higher ups at wizard of the coast and Hasbro look at the situation very carefully and strongly consider committing now to releasing the next edition of Dungeons and Dragons with an SRD that is Creative Commons immediately upon the release of that new edition. I think that committing to that course of action now would go a long way to rebuilding the trust in the community." This couldn't have been said any better. 100%
WOTC: "D&D is under-monetized, but don't worry we'll tarnish the brand enough so it evens out."
😂 thats gave me a good laugh
“Be kind”. Well said Marty, those two word contain a mountain of positive wisdom.
HUGE thank you to Linda Codega for leaking the OGL 1.1 with enough time for the community to fight back. Truly the hero we needed.
PS You are welcome Kelly & Monty. Glad to help. Thank *YOU* for all your content:)
I am happy for all the content creators for D&D, I am also happy I now switched to pathfinder 2e and won't support d&d with my cash again. I really hope you guys get a pathfinder 2e conversion for your stuff.
If we are to look at the positives of this situation, TTRPG has definitely gained in terms of diversity - other systems are becoming more visible and recognizable, which is a huge plus!
I'm also glad that your content will be more diversified, I think it will be interesting not only for viewers but also for you.
Can't wait for that book, dudes. Purchased on Kickstarter and waiting anxiously (now)!
Well said. As usual the Dungeon Dudes put it perfectly. I'm excited to continue watching Drakkenhiem and see what else they come up with!