CGB: Casting this, and that, and that and that. Opponent: Aight, I'mma watch an episode of Breaking Bad and check back later if he's done with his turn.
The interesting thing about this deck is that you don't necessarily need the combo to win. You could just draw and play out 3 dragons, attack, then end the turn with 2 counterspells in hand. That's probably game too, with a lot less hassle.
I have to say, the fact that at the end of the first game, which he won quite comfortably, CGB critiqued his performance shows the extent to which he really cares about and understands magic. Bravo my man, keep it up.
The first time I saw this deck, it had a Double Major in it. Double Major copies Vadrok, then Vadrok plays Double Major from your graveyard, which copies Vadrok again, which plays Double Major twice (since it has mutated twice) then this blows up and you can cast a direct damage spell and copy it a whole bunch of times to destroy your opponent.
@@alexcameron2880 how he plans the strat, how he forsees the opponent. Even if the decklist is from top 8... How he comments, how he uses the cards is very different compared to David or Matti... and you can say: "but the cards do the same thing"... Yes, but his gameplay is very special... That is why I love watching CGB
@@asraarradon4115 you think it’s bad in BO1 imagine in BO3 having to do it two more times. I’ve considered tanking my rank and conceding twice just to not have to deal with it.
I reached platinum for the first time ever. Definitely wouldn’t be possible without all that I’ve learned from your videos. Thanks for the great content!
The trouble is, a deck like this plays out way faster in paper. This is a limitation of the arena client rather than a deficiency in the deck. Kind of unfair to effectively enforce bans on decks that work fine on paper, but take forever to play out on arena due to the bunk ass client.
In the last loop that was close. You could put it in full control and actually continue to target the dragon with command then unsub just before the command resolves on the stack and kills the dragon. But you must use full control or it won’t give you the chance to use unsub. Then you get the treasure from the command and the dragon will come back to your hand, but you also get the targeting treasure the dragon makes because it was already on the stack.
Basically like this: 1. Cast Goldspan Dragon 2. Mutate Vadrok onto Goldspan Dragon, making a Treasure and recasting Prismari Command to make another Treasure and deal two to the Dragon, making a third Treasure. 3.Mutate Lore Drakkis onto Goldspan Dragon, making another Treasure and triggering the Vadrok and Drakkis abilities. Recast Prismari Command (same modes) and return Unsubstantiate, then cast Unsubstantiate (must use full control) to return the Dragon plus two mutate creatures (before the second Command damage would kill it). Of course always remember to pop your treasures just before the dragon returns to your hand. This loop will always net you one extra mana per loop.
I'll be honest, whereas I am always rooting for CGB to win these games, by the time I got to the game vs cycling I was rooting for cycling to win just out of contempt for this annoying as hell to watch, play, and play against mutate deck XD
Revisiting this in Explorer! Such a blast from the past. I think Arena made it less of a headache to pilot. Either that, or I am much improved or something...
The funny thing is: i play comparable lists since kaltheim and yet nobody I talked to thought this concept works in practice well. Go cgb show the doubters that they were wrong all the time :)
If there is not hand disruption, counterspells and aggros out there, the deck is awesome. Winota tho, completely wrecks you with elite spellbinder, protection critters and low to the ground curve. Mono red is also a pain for you have not enough interaction to live long enough to combo off. Mono white can easily start putting counters on everything and run you over. This deck is great at preying on slower decks like ultimatum, tap out decks and some control decks. Unfortunately control have to play tons of removal and counters in bo1, so you might end up being completely overwhelmed by them as well. Don't misunderstand me tho, the deck is great, it s just a glass cannon and you have to pilot it to perfection to get good results, especially in bo1 where any minimum mistake makes the difference and there s no time to recover from a misplay.
10:20 wow. Im getting into this with you. Youre over here devating and im YELLING Negate! Negate, negate. No not other shit. Negate. That is an Alrunds face damn down. Whew. Thanks for not screwing that up.
Attacking first with the dragons against the cycler would have made it easier because you would have created two extra treasure tokens and then you could have done the loops after
Liked this deck a lot, but quick question. Wouldn't temur be slightly better with like snakeskin veil and/or a spell that gives trample making it a better swing and has protection. Maybe the garruk enchantment that draws every time power 4 or greater hits the field since you use unsubstantiate
Shelter and counterspell offers protection, trample isnt relevant since you win by command burn and the combo wins by itself, theres no need for additional card draw once you go off.
It's interesting how you mention temur for the vail purpose only, when there is also the double major combo causing literally "instant" wins (that only last 5 minutes to pull off)
@@tobias97erdt if we're being honest, i didnt know what that was until i just looked it up. I just noticed a few times he got stuck in games and was like if it was snakeskin goldspan dragon woulda just killed em already from the +1 counters instead of that white 2 drop
@@tobias97erdt While the combo is most certainly faster the primary goal is just getting 2 wins in the span of an hour, the issue with double major is that it's a dead card unless you're winning.
Like, I guess this deck is cool, and you can do a ton of stuff... But the Vadrok/Double Major combo does the same thing, except it straight up wins off of the combo, and loses to the same things Why is this performing well and the Double Major one is not? Is it solely on the back of Goldspan?
@@MyCommentsRMaturelol the idea is to mutate vadrok and copy the mutation with double major, then recast double major to get infinite mutations, and each cycle nets you an extra spell. If you have a Prismari Command in the graveyard you also have infinite damage. That seems a lot easier than whatever this deck tries to do and loses to the same things
I think the main reason is that the vadrok mayor combo gets wrecked hard by just 1 counter/killspell and that the deck is way safer/consistant without it. The combo is silly and "instantly"(over 5 minutes) winning the game but in the end: if you can avoid having to use it you should.
@@tobias97erdt i guess it can disrupt your opponent better, but honestly it doesn't take much to switch some cards in the deck for 4 Double Major and have the same deck, except with an OTK combo built in
This deck should be able to win games without the need of comboing off which makes it better than most of combo decks that lose games just becouse one combo piece was missing.
I wonder if there is any merit to trying to translate this deck into the Historic format and let your win condition by casting grapeshot from your graveyard and have there be like 30+ copies.
@@tobias97erdt haha oh no I love me some extra rng in my games, deck limitations aren't enough. Gimme coin flips, cascades and transmogrifies all day. I love sitting across from someone playing paper and saying hey lets see what happens :D My last standard deck before covid stopped instore play had vito and tavern swindler. "tails never fails". Flipped heads 5 times in a row over 2 games against an opponent got smashed and loved it.
Got my ass handed to me by this deck. Thanks CGB! After the first mutate/Prismatic combo I knew I should've added some exile creature control...guess the apparations are back in...sigh.
MTGJeff made a video on it, apparently it’s a computer generated deck, personally i added a few hexproof lorge creatures to avoid cheap removal counters but it works very well vs aggro without the changes
Nah. Clowned this one right before I saw this. Didn't let it get a dragon on the field with some hand hate. If you can get it before it gets rolling it folds pretty quick.
The good thing about paper magic is that once you hit the infinite you can just explain to your opponent what's happening instead of playing through it. Like hey dude at this point I have infinite mana and effectively infinite counter spells and I will slowly ping you death.
I've been playing this deck for months. It's pretty good if you can pop off the combos. You can literally win in one turn but it's just best to not try the one turn unless you absolutely have to. It's a pretty complex deck.
That's why the casual cloud hates it: they are afraid they get beaten by it while also not being able to copy it because they can't really pilot the deck... (okay maybe it's just annoying to be on the recieving end)
Not to be an arse, but most of these matches you were playing first. And there are also lessons to learn when you lose. Once you get confident with the deck, just play and record 10 games.. That way you show deck strenghts, but also weaknesses
There are many options, depends on your play style. When I'm feeling more brainless I go with a Temur Ultimatum and if I want to make the opponent suffer I go for azorius control
God this deck absolutely sucks to play against. Love to watch my opponent fuck around for 20 minutes while they kill me. Vadrok should be banned just for the tedium the deck induces.
CGB: Casting this, and that, and that and that.
Opponent: Aight, I'mma watch an episode of Breaking Bad and check back later if he's done with his turn.
I’ve won a few games against this deck just by walking away and doing something else for a while just to come back and see they timed out.
@@mattdawgpro This deck needs one card to end it quickly once the combo gets going - Volcanic Geyser = GG!
CGB:
The interesting thing about this deck is that you don't necessarily need the combo to win. You could just draw and play out 3 dragons, attack, then end the turn with 2 counterspells in hand. That's probably game too, with a lot less hassle.
Damn! Did not know piloting this deck is this hard. Good job CGB. I was sweating just watching. 😅
You know its serious in the arena when CGB messes up his hair to think.
Props to the opponent for sticking around, I’d quit a long time ago & stop the charade
This deck is soooo difficult to pilot. Props, CGB. You make it only look kinda difficult, lol. Love the content!
I have to say, the fact that at the end of the first game, which he won quite comfortably, CGB critiqued his performance shows the extent to which he really cares about and understands magic. Bravo my man, keep it up.
Who could have possibly known that casting spells for free was broken!?
The first time I saw this deck, it had a Double Major in it. Double Major copies Vadrok, then Vadrok plays Double Major from your graveyard, which copies Vadrok again, which plays Double Major twice (since it has mutated twice) then this blows up and you can cast a direct damage spell and copy it a whole bunch of times to destroy your opponent.
those "i play with myself" combos make this game so insufferable
Cgb, all of your deck strats are insane! Biggest MX fan 🇲🇽 here 🙌🏿
Mx fans represent!
It's not his deck...
@@alexcameron2880 how he plans the strat, how he forsees the opponent. Even if the decklist is from top 8... How he comments, how he uses the cards is very different compared to David or Matti... and you can say: "but the cards do the same thing"... Yes, but his gameplay is very special... That is why I love watching CGB
@@holycharlie1 agreed 👍
CGB is the Tony Stark of MTG Arena😎
No, Tony Stark is the CGB of the mcu
@@vidividivicious you know it's true if a Third says it. Endlessly jealous of that handle.
God This deck is so Not fun to play against
Or to play. Or to even watch.
@@asraarradon4115 its fun if you watch it in 2x speed
I agree, I wouldn’t play a deck like this. It’s strong but I want to play against someone, not just have them watch
@@asraarradon4115 you think it’s bad in BO1 imagine in BO3 having to do it two more times. I’ve considered tanking my rank and conceding twice just to not have to deal with it.
Heh, at least the version with Hemophage was a lock if they had the combo, so you could just scoop.
I reached platinum for the first time ever. Definitely wouldn’t be possible without all that I’ve learned from your videos. Thanks for the great content!
piloting might be hard but this seems boring as hell to play and play against
I love the updates and the commentary on the recent tournaments
Your channel is awesome bro love all your content
CKC! Wow that combo loop with Goldspan Dragon, Vadrok and Lore Drakkis is intense!!
If you cannot complete your turns in 3 minutes or less, your turn should automatically end.
The trouble is, a deck like this plays out way faster in paper. This is a limitation of the arena client rather than a deficiency in the deck. Kind of unfair to effectively enforce bans on decks that work fine on paper, but take forever to play out on arena due to the bunk ass client.
My god... That first game was intense.😂😂 Non stop plays! Let's go!
Happy 858bro! Giv'EM HELL brotha!
This deck beat the everliving crap outta me this morning.
Powerful stuff! Though it is complicated, good if you can take the time to learn it!
I can't believe the comments are so negative, this deck was cool as hell.
That thumbnail lol. Keep up the good work CGB.
In Historic add a Grapeshot. :)
And teferi's protection... just in case
*you can also just play it in standard with show of confidence which is even stronger for the dragon
Well, I for one really love it. It's not even that often on ladder, because it's so easy to mess up and hard to master.
In the last loop that was close. You could put it in full control and actually continue to target the dragon with command then unsub just before the command resolves on the stack and kills the dragon. But you must use full control or it won’t give you the chance to use unsub. Then you get the treasure from the command and the dragon will come back to your hand, but you also get the targeting treasure the dragon makes because it was already on the stack.
Basically like this:
1. Cast Goldspan Dragon
2. Mutate Vadrok onto Goldspan Dragon, making a Treasure and recasting Prismari Command to make another Treasure and deal two to the Dragon, making a third Treasure.
3.Mutate Lore Drakkis onto Goldspan Dragon, making another Treasure and triggering the Vadrok and Drakkis abilities. Recast Prismari Command (same modes) and return Unsubstantiate, then cast Unsubstantiate (must use full control) to return the Dragon plus two mutate creatures (before the second Command damage would kill it).
Of course always remember to pop your treasures just before the dragon returns to your hand. This loop will always net you one extra mana per loop.
Nice video. Thank you. Creative. Brainy. Fun.
I would add some mutante octopuss there, just for the flashy meanies
I'll be honest, whereas I am always rooting for CGB to win these games, by the time I got to the game vs cycling I was rooting for cycling to win just out of contempt for this annoying as hell to watch, play, and play against mutate deck XD
Revisiting this in Explorer! Such a blast from the past. I think Arena made it less of a headache to pilot. Either that, or I am much improved or something...
I've been working on this same concept but with EDH and I love this Jeskai Voltron line of wheels and deals
Batman shirt day was a GREAT day for videos.
It's awesome to see Vadrok decks doing well; if only there was still a way to give it flash (in standard).
Absolutely incredible games, I take my hat off to you, I don't think I could play that on camera HAHAHA
The opponent sitting there like -_-
The funny thing is: i play comparable lists since kaltheim and yet nobody I talked to thought this concept works in practice well. Go cgb show the doubters that they were wrong all the time :)
If there is not hand disruption, counterspells and aggros out there, the deck is awesome. Winota tho, completely wrecks you with elite spellbinder, protection critters and low to the ground curve. Mono red is also a pain for you have not enough interaction to live long enough to combo off. Mono white can easily start putting counters on everything and run you over. This deck is great at preying on slower decks like ultimatum, tap out decks and some control decks. Unfortunately control have to play tons of removal and counters in bo1, so you might end up being completely overwhelmed by them as well. Don't misunderstand me tho, the deck is great, it s just a glass cannon and you have to pilot it to perfection to get good results, especially in bo1 where any minimum mistake makes the difference and there s no time to recover from a misplay.
And now cgb add double mayor for the (broken) memes!
hard to watch this deck played out
love ya cgb
I really want to see you play a version of this that uses Double Major to good effect - it does such interesting things with Mutate.
Love this deck! I play mostly on mobile now thou, and OMG I can't imagine the execution of the combo on mobile 😆
10:20 wow. Im getting into this with you. Youre over here devating and im YELLING Negate! Negate, negate. No not other shit. Negate. That is an Alrunds face damn down. Whew. Thanks for not screwing that up.
Well, he never got there. Tapped land ftl. But he for sure damn did. 2 facedowns. 2.
Okay, hear me out. 1 crackle with power
Cool combo and everything but these games rough to watch 😆
lol 35:45 not a fan of the random brews from seth?
I appreciate the brewer's side of the loop... but are you really ok with enabling the most painful matchup since Nexus Reclamation, CGB?
Punishing Rogue, Mono-Red, and Mono-White decks with this horrible pile feels....fitting.
Attacking first with the dragons against the cycler would have made it easier because you would have created two extra treasure tokens and then you could have done the loops after
Looks like i won’t be playing ranked the next week. Don’t wanna face this
I kinda want to send you my izzet list (standard). Im using Barbie/Ken which i dont see too many others doing. The floating effect is so damn useful.
Liked this deck a lot, but quick question. Wouldn't temur be slightly better with like snakeskin veil and/or a spell that gives trample making it a better swing and has protection. Maybe the garruk enchantment that draws every time power 4 or greater hits the field since you use unsubstantiate
Shelter and counterspell offers protection, trample isnt relevant since you win by command burn and the combo wins by itself, theres no need for additional card draw once you go off.
It's interesting how you mention temur for the vail purpose only, when there is also the double major combo causing literally "instant" wins (that only last 5 minutes to pull off)
@@tobias97erdt if we're being honest, i didnt know what that was until i just looked it up. I just noticed a few times he got stuck in games and was like if it was snakeskin goldspan dragon woulda just killed em already from the +1 counters instead of that white 2 drop
@@josef-namnguyen6884 fair enough. Just seemed better to me than the shelter tbh, but i could be wrong.
@@tobias97erdt While the combo is most certainly faster the primary goal is just getting 2 wins in the span of an hour, the issue with double major is that it's a dead card unless you're winning.
Like, I guess this deck is cool, and you can do a ton of stuff... But the Vadrok/Double Major combo does the same thing, except it straight up wins off of the combo, and loses to the same things
Why is this performing well and the Double Major one is not? Is it solely on the back of Goldspan?
sounds about right, but also curious
@@MyCommentsRMaturelol the idea is to mutate vadrok and copy the mutation with double major, then recast double major to get infinite mutations, and each cycle nets you an extra spell. If you have a Prismari Command in the graveyard you also have infinite damage. That seems a lot easier than whatever this deck tries to do and loses to the same things
I think the main reason is that the vadrok mayor combo gets wrecked hard by just 1 counter/killspell and that the deck is way safer/consistant without it. The combo is silly and "instantly"(over 5 minutes) winning the game but in the end: if you can avoid having to use it you should.
@@tobias97erdt i guess it can disrupt your opponent better, but honestly it doesn't take much to switch some cards in the deck for 4 Double Major and have the same deck, except with an OTK combo built in
Lmao the thumbnail looks like something out of fantastic beasts. From this day forth you shall be called Newt.
This deck should be able to win games without the need of comboing off which makes it better than most of combo decks that lose games just becouse one combo piece was missing.
I wonder if there is any merit to trying to translate this deck into the Historic format and let your win condition by casting grapeshot from your graveyard and have there be like 30+ copies.
Good idea but probably a bit slow for historic.
@@bugsySA not to mention there's already an easier version with the dog that return himself
You don't have to add grapeshot if you can play show of confidence in standard tho...
We commit a mild amount of tomfoolery
Cool deck. Work of art. I'll never play it still. Life's too short.
Love mutate, sad it isn't Starrix mutate :D
No roll the dice mutate? Indeed very sad for players who like consistant strategies...
@@tobias97erdt haha oh no I love me some extra rng in my games, deck limitations aren't enough. Gimme coin flips, cascades and transmogrifies all day. I love sitting across from someone playing paper and saying hey lets see what happens :D
My last standard deck before covid stopped instore play had vito and tavern swindler. "tails never fails". Flipped heads 5 times in a row over 2 games against an opponent got smashed and loved it.
Sultai titans nest was 66% even higher
Just internalized the new thumbnails and I think it really helps make your videos have a greater brand recognition.
Got my ass handed to me by this deck. Thanks CGB! After the first mutate/Prismatic combo I knew I should've added some exile creature control...guess the apparations are back in...sigh.
Skyclade can't even target goldspan dragon so what's the point of doing that?
@@tobias97erdt there wouldn't be any point in including a skyclave to target a goldspan.
Omg, is mutate spells finally real?? Has my day finally come??
Anyone have a lead on that re-animator deck? Looked fun.
MTGJeff made a video on it, apparently it’s a computer generated deck, personally i added a few hexproof lorge creatures to avoid cheap removal counters but it works very well vs aggro without the changes
Thats some Yugioh stuff
Please, take a look at Titan's Nest! As an edit, Onyx is now a legit new wincon by just looping cheap dig spells and killing with magecraft!
He did the Titans Nest deck about a month ago.
This kind of decks is the reason i play magic while farmin in wow or questing lol
Still hurts that people don't like watching CGB misplay.
Better advice than learn from your mistakes?
Learn from the mistakes of others.
Thassa's Oracle can help from decking
isn´t this bannworthy?
one would think videos of somebody masturbating would be banned on youtube
Nah. Clowned this one right before I saw this. Didn't let it get a dragon on the field with some hand hate. If you can get it before it gets rolling it folds pretty quick.
with all that mana would be better to burn your opponent with crackle with power much faster
Prismari Command is both enabler and payoff, crackle is only Payoff.
@@busTedOaS That, and you'll lose the opportunity to slowly torture your opponent
@@busTedOaS i wasn't saying to remove prismari command, but something else, like prophecy, and add 1 two crackle
This deck needs one card to end it quickly once the combo gets going - Volcanic Geyser = GG!
Wouldn’t Crackle with Power be strictly better in this scenario?
The good thing about paper magic is that once you hit the infinite you can just explain to your opponent what's happening instead of playing through it. Like hey dude at this point I have infinite mana and effectively infinite counter spells and I will slowly ping you death.
I've been playing this deck for months. It's pretty good if you can pop off the combos. You can literally win in one turn but it's just best to not try the one turn unless you absolutely have to. It's a pretty complex deck.
That's why the casual cloud hates it: they are afraid they get beaten by it while also not being able to copy it because they can't really pilot the deck... (okay maybe it's just annoying to be on the recieving end)
@@tobias97erdt both lol
Not to be an arse, but most of these matches you were playing first. And there are also lessons to learn when you lose.
Once you get confident with the deck, just play and record 10 games.. That way you show deck strenghts, but also weaknesses
Shit, i'm to stupid for this deck.
Anyone have an Idea for a deck between this and Aggro? :D
Borios showdown of the skalds, you see, is not monored, since it has white
There are many options, depends on your play style. When I'm feeling more brainless I go with a Temur Ultimatum and if I want to make the opponent suffer I go for azorius control
@@tutanka1831 okay thank's, i will have a look in these
You don’t need to always crack all the treasures. Make 5 mana to recast the dragon is enough
well, it's better to have some backup, if they hold interaction I guess...
Jeskai por siempre :3
Si señor
It's a shame double vision isn't in these colors, because that Vadrock combo is dummy easy.
Double vision is, the card you're thinking of is double major.
@@ixchel3330 Yep you're right lol
deck is really interesting, I mean really... not too straight forward like almost all decks out there
That deck is obnoxious. Wow
This deck is much more manageable on paper. As in, physical pasteboard card game.
i like jeskai, but i cant stand these mutate/combo piles
Continue playing your monoblack discard/monoblue counterspell piles then ;)
Nice thumbnail
I love the creativity, but watching let alone playing with or against this is pretty boring imo... like a sloooooow combo
What a tedious deck
he said that im cool
Thanks, I hate it.
Sweet!
God this deck absolutely sucks to play against. Love to watch my opponent fuck around for 20 minutes while they kill me. Vadrok should be banned just for the tedium the deck induces.
Goldspan is so good
Algorithm juice
Dude ... that is toxic! kkkkkk
Comes from what kind of player?
hmmm, winning gets followers. I feel like I knew, just like to know CGB has compared some numbers.
Nice dude
CBG = Goat
I remember fighting this deck last Month... Its rape me hard
damn...that looks boring as hell...this makes mono r looking like an adventure...