Andy Taylor "Phat Boy" flugelhorn vs. Andy Taylor "Standard" model - Wichita Lineman (Cover)
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If your contemplating on purchasing an Andy Taylor Flugehorn but don't know what each model sounds like then you've come to the right place! I recorded two takes: 1st take with a "Phat Boy" model and the 2nd take with a "Standard" model. They are pretty darn close in my opinion but you can decide for yourselves.
I'm using a Dennis Wick 4FL mouthpiece with The "Phat Boy" model & an Andy Taylor standard mouthpiece on the "Standard" model.
No post-processing on the tracks, recorded directly to an Olympus LS-10 2-Trk with a TC Helicon VoiceLive 2 effects processor.
Edited in Final Cut Pro by yours truly
Bill Colletti playing Flugelhorn on "Wichita Lineman"
Both flugelhorns sound amazing because of your incredible ability to play. 👏
Wichita Lineman and the Flugelhorn great combo .. Thanks RIP Glen
There's something special about that "Phat Boy." Beautiful.
Taylor Phat Boy Frugelhorn sounds so beautiful !!!!!
I am in tears, man! Thank you!
One of the best flugel/trumpet tones I've ever heard and this applies to BOTH instruments.
Also, this has to be my favorite comparison video -- the way the two instruments were seamlessly compared should be a guide for other such comparison videos.
As a lifelong trumpet/flugelhorn player myself, that was absolutely wonderful William. You have a sound and a style I could listen to all day.
Thank you so much. Stay tuned for my forthcoming CD of original music I wrote due to be released in December 2018.
@@BillColletti Looking forward to it.
Beautiful sound from a classic tune
Bill, I am planning or retiring from work later this year and have picked up the trumpet for the first time since college. I am researching flugelhorns and came across your post here. I can't tell you how much I love your sound. This is exactly the sound that I have in my head, the one I am trying to get out of the bell of my horn. I know that buying your horn won't make me sound like you, but at least I will know that with practice it is possible that I might get there some day. You are an inspiration - and a lot of fun to listen to. So, I will save my pennies for a new horn and start practicing about 3 hours a day. When I get discouraged, I'll come back to this post. Thanks for sharing.
Hey Roy - 2 years later and I find myself in a similar boat. How are you going? I'm thinking of selling my soul for one of these and burning it up for an hour or two a day to get the chops back. It's been about 10 yrs and I've worked hard the last few months with my trumpet, practising with my son as he plays his eupho. Bliss! I hope you've been enjoying it if that's the direction you've taken! Cheers from Australia - Dave
Please do it ! I have not play since 1995.. As of March 2003 start back
Thanks very much. Much appreciated
Thank you nice sounds. Play everytime.
Oh my LORDY! I LOVE, LOVE THIS!!! 😍💗
Just beautiful!
Thanks Tom!
Lovely. Must admit I can't tell any difference between them even though I sat in brass bands, concert bands & ensembles for decades - - Hehe
The instrumental and classical music are like a vitamin to our soul. For that reason, I like it so much, to refresh my spirit.
Great Job. I like your sound.
Thanks!
hair standing performance. . well done. beautiful
Got my first flugelhorn about six years ago. First step is to stop thinking like a trumpet player. It's a different instrument with it's own particular challenges. But when your horn starts to sound kind of like this, that's good stuff. Getting there slowly. (And don't ever expect to get even close to what Mr. Colletti's got going) Great video. Thanks.
Lynn Nash Kind words, thank you Lynn.
I'm impressed !
Superb sound and style
I play on conn vintage one which I love
I'm chagrined to say I can't discern the difference, but that Fat Boy looks so cool. Ja. I love them both. Anyway, Bravo.
Wow...... always loved this song.......heard it many times "elevator music style" with no words..... you make it sound beautiful.....
Immortal beautiful musician 💖
from Detroit.i cant make up my mind they both sound like Geno Valinte.!.thanks. im not a musician i do have a tambourine through for church
Standard plays so well in tune, damn!
Bravo!
Mr. Colletti, I've been enjoying this for several years now.
Thank you for creating this!
excellent!!
Beautiful Flugelhorn sound!!!Nice Artistry!
You sound like you... I could not tell much of a difference with my eyes closed and ears open. You have a lovely tone, and play beautifully. Well done, and Thanks for sharing. The Phat Boy has the looks.
Peter MultiTrum yes totally agree - if i don't look - can't really notice any difference being a 'guitar player' - but lovely tone and playing Bill - Leanne wants one !! - maybe I'll just get her the mouthpeice you suggested :)
Never heard of you before but that's some nice playing. Gotta love TH-cam for helping me find new musicians to listen to.
Klasse ist noch stark untertrieben, sensationell auch, mein Favorit ist das unlakierte, wirklich kommen diese Instrumente der menschlichen Stimme sehr sehr nahe, Super 👍 👍
Both are phat, the phat boy is just a bit phatter. But the Standard does seem to have a bigger, broader sound. Nice playing and a good choice Bro. I used to play 'Witchita' up to five or six times a week for years! Good times.
LOVE THE SOUND
Thanks!
I really mean that...love the song you picked too.
I pray you record and skyrocket.
Thanks!
muy bueno
Man! Such beyootiful playing, I enjoyed it immensely. Thank you. If only there were an American Idol for brass, you'd definitely be a contender. Perhaps there is one, in one of those infinite parallel universes...
Thanks Thomas!
Awesome playing here dude, you make both horns sound phat!!
Thanks Dhani!
I'm not sure I can hear a difference. However the PHAT BOY looks so cool. If you are going to be a "Cat" playing a Flugelhorn, you might as well own the stage. 😎❤️🎺
This great way of playing makes me feel good
I was looking some stuff up on Taylor flugelhorns and came across this video and your channel. Oh man what a sound you have. It's absolutely smooth fluffy and as creamy as butter. You have amazing talent my friend keep it up. Beautiful masterpiece🎺
Thank you Mr C. Stay tuned for some new videos. I have a new Van Laar Flugelhorn (Oiram Fresu model) and will be recording soon.
So nice.
the phat boys really nice. so is your playing. good work.
Awesome playing, I love the fluffy flugel tone, it's what I try to emulate.
Thanks Oliver!
The fluffiness of the Phat Boy is to-die-for. Such a great sounding instrument, though much of that is the flugelhornist. Excellent work. I have to put the Phat Boy near the top of my dream horn list, near the Conn Vintage One.
Thanks Sean! The Phat Boy in this video is for sale if you are interested. :)
Wow Bill that is such a sweet mellow sound on the "Phat Boy", but you make both flugels sound great! I love your style!
Thanks Mark!
That was beautiful. Peace amigo....JO
Nice hat
Lovely playing thanks for sharing :)
I just got one of those Denis Wick 4FL mp's since Bill recommended it. Be advised, this has a huge impact - really mellows the sound. Makes a night/day difference on my flugel. Unless you're playing a similar mp I doubt you're going to a similar sound to what he's getting here. Plus I believe aspects of Bill's playing approach make a lot of the nice fluffy, velvety sound happen.
Fantastic video! Very useful for so many Trumpet players out there considering a Taylor. Thanks so much for sharing! (and really sweet playing too :)
Thanks John!
Very nice horn (and well played!). I've kind of wanted a "Phat Boy" for the sheer aesthetical value, but the characteristics mentioned makes me want one even more.
Great job on a great song! Both are really great!
Michael Betzold Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Didn't think I would prefer the standard, but I do. I suppose that might have something to do with the mouthpieces. Nicely done. Thanks.
DizzyJazz The Standard (to me) has a smoother tone, perhaps darker than the Phat Boy. On my gigs I only use the Standard when I'm in a restaurant and have to play quietly. The Phat Boy can cut through on Pop songs more so than the Standard. Especially, when you push it. The Phat Boy has a split personality. Mellow when you need it to be or the opposite when you blow harder. I believe this was the intent when Andy Taylor conceptualized it.
The raw-brass finish of the Standard is particularly fine; I would like to have such a fluegel, just lying around ornamentally, and airily blow a few phrases now and then.
nice! taylor are doing a Phay Baby model now. would love to see that in use
Fab.Thanks
you have a beautiful sound on both, difference is very small between the two.
Love to tray them one time
Hi thanks , I play long with Bill on my bone ,, it's fun but I'm really wanting to get good on flugabon and the valve s.
Beautiful tune...beautifully played....kudos !
Thanks!
Beautiful playing, man... and you are the only guy I've seen who places the horn as high on the top lip as I did for many years. The outer rim kind of dug in on the bottom. I bet we'd blend well in a section!
Aj, I didn't intentionally position the mouthpiece on my lips that way. it's where it falls naturally. I'm in the process of realigning my upper/lower teeth with invisalign. I was worried at first that it would affect my tone and positioning of the mouthpiece. So far so good, I'm 3 months into the process and no difference (yet)!
that. wad beautiful I'm James Sharp just learning my trumpet and have big dreams. lik to have a flugle horn too.
The Phat boy wins for me. Sweet sounding horn, A little reverb. Played by a pro = perfection!
Trying to get my horn chops back. You have inspired me big time!
Vic DeMarzo, glad to hear you're back!
Love the horn Bill. I flock to the keys for songwriting but trumpet is my fav. Hearing the flugel over the last couple months got me going. Then I stumbled on your videos. Excellent, pasionate flugel playing..
Both are excellent flugelhorns. To me the Phat Boy has a more Jazz quality,flugel sound yet brighter than the Standard which sounds closer to a French horn and more formal and serious. The Phat Boy for Fun,the Standard for solemn playing.
Spot on John!
From:Miles Davis and Clifford Brown, Woody Shaw and Freddie Hubbard, Lee Morgan and Chuck Mangione, Tom Brown and Leslie Drayton, Chris Botti and Rick Braun, Ken Pensyle and Dominick Farinaci - - - that sound, articulation...
Sympa
Quando a música passa a fazer parte da tua vida...voce sempre vai arranjar um espaço ....mesmo que pequeno para o estudo do teu instrumento. As vezes uma escala já é suficiente. Mas precisa sentir a afinação tipo... ouvir com a alma. ary
The standard sounds more brassy. The phatboy sounds like a french horn synth. Really cool enjoyed watching it
Really enjoyed this!
Thanks!
MAGICO
Super sweet tone. What do you think of the Conn Vintage One FR1? Have you played it?
What wonderful instruments, and beautifully played. I've finally found the flugelhorn sound I've been waiting to hear. I wonder if the different mouthpieces may have contributed to the slightly different tones?
Hi Rob, the mouthpiece definitely affects the tone. My goal here was not to compare the tone difference between the horns but was to demonstrate that by using two different horns and mouthpieces you can achieve the same tone results or at least get close to each other. On the Taylor Phat Boy I used a Dennis Wick 4FL because it is a bright sounding Flugel. The DW 4FL tames it down. I used a Taylor MD Flugel mouthpiece on the Taylor Standard Flugel which BTW was the mouthpiece it originally shipped with. The Standard model has a much more mellow tone than the Phat Boy. If I used the DW 4FL on the Standard it would almost sound muffled. Thanks for listening!
@@BillColletti Many thanks, very interesting :) Time to start saving!
The phat boy would be amazing for recording
Wow, incredible playing! Love flugelhorn, don't play it though. I prefer the sound of the Standard in this sample. The Phat Boy seems to have a kind of muting thing happening when you change notes rapidly, like a split second fade-in/fade-out that seems to dampen the sound. They both sound gorgeous though.
Que sentimento é esse? Cara toca muito parabéns.
Great job Bill!
I really enjoyed your arrangements, as well as, your interpretation of the music. By the way, the horns sound great!
Som maravilhoso!!! 👏👏👏🇧🇷
Excellent playing - a great job. And kudo's to your recording setup; you're way ahead of me in both areas! :)
Thanks Jonathan!
Bill.....Beautiful playing...borh sound great but prefer the "Phat Boy"...nice dark and mellow sound....Enjoy your videos....
Thanks Dave!
Wow...
You're a bad ass. I wish I had my tenor with me, I'd love to jam with ya. Beautiful tone my friend
Thanks!
sweet either way!!
Personally I like the tone of the standard more than the phat boy
The Phat Boy has a brighter tone.
@@BillColletti seems like it defeats the purpose of it being a flugelhorn. I get that it still sounds darker than a trumpet, but it seems odd to want a tone that's specifically in between a trumpet and a standard flugelhorn.
Is everyone going to ignore that the ma himself replied to a comment on a seven or so year old video of his? TH-cam needs more people like him...
Spherical Cheese That could depend on the ensemble you’re playing in. If it’s a brass band where you want to blend with cornets and trumpets, then the slightly brighter tone may work better. If you want a really mellow or dark tone for solo work, then that’s valid too.
@@brianmartin2238 yeah, and I've also heard that there are pieces written specifically for rotary trumpets.
the phat boy sounds just a bit more defined and clear and it looks cool.
The Phat Boy sings with more clarity in the upper register and is far better tah the standard in terms of general playing, Phat Boy is a distinctive!!!
Phat boy sounds a little smoother i think. I like it. Playing is superb.
deep....
Beautiful execution! Im a trombone player and iwant to try this instrument over the trumpet... What advice can you give me with the mouthpieces sizes and stuff? Thanks in advance
great sound and playing :) the Prize is great tooooooooooo LOL
Top lindo
Gorgeous sound, man!
Nice playing! Andy does make some gorgeous horn. I have always wonder where can we trumpeters find such play along musics...so wanted to record sth but plain trumpet solo doesn't sound as good
Wow totally wow ,thankyou for sharing can you recommend. A nice sounding flugelhorn. Under 1,000.please,
Search eBay for a Used Getzen Eterna Flugelhorn.
Thankyou sir you sound wonderful.i bought a Manchester. Flugelhorn. But nit sounding like I wAnt I love jazz bluesy..lol
Your welcome.
I found a 595 s getzen? Thankyou again!!!
Diana Scott if you like a darker warmer more mellow sound use a Dennis Wick 4FL mouthpiece. It will make any Flugelhorn sound nicer. That is what I use on the Phat Boy Flugelhorn. Any other mouthpiece I have tried sounds thinner and brighter.
My
Pleasure great technique aswell 1st class ,and I am very picky
Maybe it's just me but the Phat Boy has the "It" factor.
Can't tell the difference
I agree. For me, that's a good thing but I must say the Phat Boy is easier to blow through. It has less resistance and better intonation.
both horns sound just marvelous, yet I'd prefer that Phat Boy. Does someone know which mouthpiece the artist here is playing?
Mouthpiece on the Phat Boy is a Dennis Wick 4FL
@@BillColletti Tried that MP on my buddy's Phat Boy and it is amazing!
@@robturchick7416 Any other MP I tried was too bright for my taste.
@@BillColletti I have a different flugel that takes a Yamaha shank and settled on a Warburton 4fl which is a little more comfy and has almost the same tone. Love your sound and I try to get the same...now if I could play like you! HAHA! Excellent work!
@@robturchick7416 Thanks! I'll be posting a new video tomorrow demonstrating my new CarolBrass large bore (.465) Cornet. I'll be using a Flugelhorn mouthpiece with an adaptor to fit the cornet. Nice tone with it. It's made with a 5 1/4" red brass bell. Stay tuned...
I prefer the standard...much more even sound up and down
Bill...if you a chance...listen to the song CORCOVADO Samba song...maybe you'll like to interpret it your style.
Hi, William. I really prefer the sound of the standard model because the "Phat Boy" sounded more muted, seemed to have less resonance, at least judging by this recording. BTW, which one do YOU prefer and why?
I think the Phat Boy is more buttery sounding. The Standard sounds great, but has a slightly sharper fuzz to it.
I totally agree. :)
William Colletti Different mouthpieces...are they the same size? The Standard mouthpiece looks broader like a half-mega tone, while the Phat looks new and shallower.
They are fairly close in size