Cool video. Every crew on every boat has a different skill level. Your boat is the same. The Captain stayed calm and the crew responded well. If you haven’t gotten knocked down and rounded up, you are missing out! One of my first dates with a girlfriend was on a 40’ boat that got knocked down. She yelled “What should I do?” I yelled back “Just don’t let go of that rope!” Which was the guy. 39 nine years later we are still married so not everyone who races is a pro to begin with and dies! Be well.
I’m a little confused. There was a race? Where were the other boats? He changed from upwind to down wind but didn’t appear to round a mark. That seems like a normal day on San Francisco Bay.
@@bryanlubbers476 If that was the case, then he wasn’t serious about racing. If they had been a well trained crew and the boat was set up correctly, they could have easily reefed the main in 2 minutes flat. The job looked like a 100% blade. With a deeply reefed main they could have left that up and been fine, continuing the race. Then shook out the reefs after the squall passed. I didn’t see and boats near them, so I’m thinking that they were so out of it, they chose to go home. Maybe that’s why one guy went below to call the race committee and inform them that they were dropping out.
Been there, done that. That's when the fun begins! Looks like the traveler is in front of the wheel? Important to have someone dedicated to the main to spill some air on the big gusts. Everyone stayed calm and enjoyed the sleigh ride at the end. Thanks for sharing.
Pathetic. 1. Did they check the forecast and be prepared? 2. Change to working or storm jib, reef main, continue racing. If you can't do that stay home.
Don't the have reef lines? I was racing Pully Point in Puget Sound a couple decades ago. Gustav to 60 knot, those who couldn't handle the weather, we finished the race in a S2 7.9 first in our division. Spent part of the race under double reefer main and no headsail.
Thank you for posting this - great to be able to watch and think through the steps to take in this situation. Don’t worry about the armchair quarterbacks - you guys brought it back with no crew or equipment damage - that’s a win!
Not sure why the reef lines were not in place on the main... Pretty strange to me. Also - as many mentioned - I do not understand why the traveller was not managed. BTW, did everyone have life vests on?
racers often don't put reefing lines because its a hassle and they put and remove mainsail for every race. plus you can loosen the wang and let mainsheet out and bring traveler up to twist the main and spill the wind without reefing, or put on backstay to bend mast to achieve the same...or do what they did
@@arktseytlin Thank you. Our team has won all major European lake regattas multiple times in monohull category as well as finished 3rd on RMSR recently. Although I do see a big difference between someone racing on a lake or on sea. We did see however big winds everywhere. We do have our reef lines ready for bigger winds. And the vests on. Are we talking about racers or "beginner-intermediate" crew with respect to the video then?
We can see the reefing point on the main, but after if a reefing line is not run it's not a good idea racing or not. On the safety side there is a girl that put a jacket on the top of her life jacket, I think that can be really dangerous inclufing lung collapse if the jacket get inflated and the zip doesn't break
@@ClayBabcock you should at least teach your main trimmer not to straddle the traveller, then you can work on setting up the trim properly, as that looked like shit for those conditions.
@@IrregularPineapples More or less. It's more critical for upwind sailing, but heading downwind it's advisable to send the traveler all the way leeward, and that'll keep the mainsail a bit flatter. A traveler windward downwind, especially without a boom vang holding the boom down, is a recipe for a possible Chinese jibe, and spills a lot of air.
Your boat is fast! We would not go that fast downwind with just the main up, we would need some form of headsail to balance her out and get going, but that’s full keel cruiser vs fin keel racer! Very impressive.
Good video and reminds me of a number of moments like that both in keel and dinghy. Try that in a Buccaneer 18, that heightens the pucker factor some. Got hit with 25+ on a lake, but I was already on down wind with chute (solo). Keeping cool is the best safety act and y'all had that working. In a debrief, my one comment (having been a bowman) would have been after dropping jib, sail tie it in place along the deck and get bowman off the front quickly. He took too much time mashing that sail into a ball at the bow and (yes, did that my self) try to tie it down. Balls come loose ;-) Overall, nicely handled, glad everyone and boat are safe and thank you for sharing.
No one knew what wind strength the squall would be. It is a matter of chance, so the best approach is to drop the foresail as they did but also reef the mainsail instantly. Also continue upwind if possible so the sail can be depowered and there is no risk of a gybe or being trapped on a run.
The boat looked crazy overpowered at one point. Good thinking with dropping the for sale asap. I would ease the traveller a bit too. It looked scary and no one panicked Cool video.
Bunch of amateurs. I am sorry but this situation is FAR from extreme. Just a gust of wind. Boat was overpowered and sails were not trimmed properly. In this situation you just ease the main and not panic.
Nice video, you can see the roll cloud approaching from the left, crew anticipated all hell is about to break loose and avoided a disaster...awesome work, and nobody got hurt.
Excuse me if I'm harsh but a total drag to see this. Lack of knowledge and leadership presented as "extreme conditions". People don't know their jobs, sails are not trimmed for the conditions and people are doing things that are dangerous - overall a sloppy job of leadership. sails not trimmed - Look at 1:17 to see how loose the foot is. The main isn't anywhere near de-powered. No wonder they feel overpowered. people are doing dangerous things - look at 2:39 - the young guy is on the bow trying to bring the sail forward to lash it down. He's on the leeward side of the sail. If there were any waves breaking on the bow he would be at the mercy. Technique that is "nice to have" in normal conditions is vital when it gets tough. Do it right when it doesn't count so the when it does count you know how to do it. People don't know their jobs - The guy who initially eases the job (grey shorts, dark top) goes from easing the jib to running up onto the foredeck Huh?? Then at 3:11 he goes down below. What is his role on the boat? Look at 1:24 at the woman in the light blue top and red/black foul weather pants. Death grip on the stanchion. I don't blame her. Overall a poor job of sailing and a miserable experience for the people involved because of the sloppy and ignorant leadership on the boat.
LOL Olav who appointed you BOSS? You were not there. Boat and crew all safely home safe and sound. No drama. How about some vids of your sailing we can comment on?
Guy on foredeck is way to slow. Should have had spinnaker set up and going up as soon as they turned downwind to really get full effect of squall. Bunch of lightweights. Go big or don't go at all.
Un’altro video dove si vede chiaramente come NON bisogna comportarsi in quelle condizioni. Troppa gente in pozzetto, 2 ore per mettere in sicurezza il Genoa....
Not great sailing. No use of traveller to de-power main and no reefing pennants even rigged. Poor preparation and seamanship. Inexperienced crew recovered well with jib take down though.
Cool video. Every crew on every boat has a different skill level. Your boat is the same.
The Captain stayed calm and the crew responded well.
If you haven’t gotten knocked down and rounded up, you are missing out!
One of my first dates with a girlfriend was on a 40’ boat that got knocked down.
She yelled “What should I do?”
I yelled back “Just don’t let go of that rope!” Which was the guy.
39 nine years later we are still married so not everyone who races is a pro to begin with and dies!
Be well.
I’m a little confused. There was a race? Where were the other boats? He changed from upwind to down wind but didn’t appear to round a mark. That seems like a normal day on San Francisco Bay.
@@bryanlubbers476
If that was the case, then he wasn’t serious about racing. If they had been a well trained crew and the boat was set up correctly, they could have easily reefed the main in 2 minutes flat. The job looked like a 100% blade. With a deeply reefed main they could have left that up and been fine, continuing the race. Then shook out the reefs after the squall passed. I didn’t see and boats near them, so I’m thinking that they were so out of it, they chose to go home. Maybe that’s why one guy went below to call the race committee and inform them that they were dropping out.
@@scomo532 Dude I'ma bet you 100$ this wasn't a race where you win money at the end. AKA Most races.
@@IrregularPineapples
ALL amateur sailboat races do not have a purse. I win you owe me $100.
@@scomo532 That's exactly what I just said?
@@IrregularPineapples
Actually, you stated “most races”, if this was a race it would have been amateur, I still win
Been there, done that. That's when the fun begins! Looks like the traveler is in front of the wheel? Important to have someone dedicated to the main to spill some air on the big gusts. Everyone stayed calm and enjoyed the sleigh ride at the end. Thanks for sharing.
Tactician goes downstairs just before the rains hits. Not like I haven't seen that on pretty much EVERY boat I've ever sailed on. ;-)
Some one has to put the kettle on.
right. and they leave a guy solo on the bow, while a poser rest against the lifelines
Race was called. Unnecessary crew on deck in a blow is a hazard.
@@mhansl sure Jan
Pathetic. 1. Did they check the forecast and be prepared? 2. Change to working or storm jib, reef main, continue racing. If you can't do that stay home.
Don't the have reef lines? I was racing Pully Point in Puget Sound a couple decades ago. Gustav to 60 knot, those who couldn't handle the weather, we finished the race in a S2 7.9 first in our division. Spent part of the race under double reefer main and no headsail.
Why didn’t you put a reef in the main?
Is that a Benny 36.7, by the way?
Yes it is! A fantastic boat.
yep!
Thank you for posting this - great to be able to watch and think through the steps to take in this situation. Don’t worry about the armchair quarterbacks - you guys brought it back with no crew or equipment damage - that’s a win!
Not sure why the reef lines were not in place on the main... Pretty strange to me. Also - as many mentioned - I do not understand why the traveller was not managed.
BTW, did everyone have life vests on?
racers often don't put reefing lines because its a hassle and they put and remove mainsail for every race. plus you can loosen the wang and let mainsheet out and bring traveler up to twist the main and spill the wind without reefing, or put on backstay to bend mast to achieve the same...or do what they did
@@arktseytlin Thank you.
Our team has won all major European lake regattas multiple times in monohull category as well as finished 3rd on RMSR recently. Although I do see a big difference between someone racing on a lake or on sea. We did see however big winds everywhere.
We do have our reef lines ready for bigger winds. And the vests on.
Are we talking about racers or "beginner-intermediate" crew with respect to the video then?
Just a question, out of curiosity why have you not reefed the main sail?
doesn't look like they have reefing lines on it. not unusual for a racing boat
We can see the reefing point on the main, but after if a reefing line is not run it's not a good idea racing or not. On the safety side there is a girl that put a jacket on the top of her life jacket, I think that can be really dangerous inclufing lung collapse if the jacket get inflated and the zip doesn't break
Why didn't you drop the traveler down?
rookie main trimmer. did that after swapped trimmers before the $hit hit
@@ClayBabcock you should at least teach your main trimmer not to straddle the traveller, then you can work on setting up the trim properly, as that looked like shit for those conditions.
@@ClayBabcock gotcha. Good learning experience. I bet that's not a mistake they'll make again. Fun video.
What does that do? Is the traveler the rope that holds the boom in position or wat?
@@IrregularPineapples More or less. It's more critical for upwind sailing, but heading downwind it's advisable to send the traveler all the way leeward, and that'll keep the mainsail a bit flatter. A traveler windward downwind, especially without a boom vang holding the boom down, is a recipe for a possible Chinese jibe, and spills a lot of air.
That's not 40 knots, maybe close to 30. Why no reef? Know the forecast?
Well I subscribed I think every sailing channel needs at least 1000 subscribers.
Haha, wanna help me out then! 😂😂😂
Your boat is fast! We would not go that fast downwind with just the main up, we would need some form of headsail to balance her out and get going, but that’s full keel cruiser vs fin keel racer! Very impressive.
Спасибо за материал!!! Куда спешат??? Гонка что ли???
да
Good video and reminds me of a number of moments like that both in keel and dinghy. Try that in a Buccaneer 18, that heightens the pucker factor some. Got hit with 25+ on a lake, but I was already on down wind with chute (solo). Keeping cool is the best safety act and y'all had that working.
In a debrief, my one comment (having been a bowman) would have been after dropping jib, sail tie it in place along the deck and get bowman off the front quickly. He took too much time mashing that sail into a ball at the bow and (yes, did that my self) try to tie it down. Balls come loose ;-)
Overall, nicely handled, glad everyone and boat are safe and thank you for sharing.
what if that happened on the downwind leg
No one knew what wind strength the squall would be. It is a matter of chance, so the best approach is to drop the foresail as they did but also reef the mainsail instantly. Also continue upwind if possible so the sail can be depowered and there is no risk of a gybe or being trapped on a run.
The boat looked crazy overpowered at one point. Good thinking with dropping the for sale asap. I would ease the traveller a bit too. It looked scary and no one panicked Cool video.
Good stuff well handled. !
Squall? What squall??
Even Irving Johnson in his 1929 Peking video tells how to hold a camera on a vessel, parallel to horizon not deck.
it was fixed to the radar mast
Bunch of amateurs. I am sorry but this situation is FAR from extreme. Just a gust of wind. Boat was overpowered and sails were not trimmed properly. In this situation you just ease the main and not panic.
Nice video, you can see the roll cloud approaching from the left, crew anticipated all hell is about to break loose and avoided a disaster...awesome work, and nobody got hurt.
yea unannounced squall and thunderstorm. 40+ knots; race abandoned right after video starts
@@ClayBabcock Did race committee call the race for everybody or did you just decide to retire yourself at that point?
You shouldn't leave the winch handles in and buoyance aids should be worn outside the jackets.
Excuse me if I'm harsh but a total drag to see this. Lack of knowledge and leadership presented as "extreme conditions". People don't know their jobs, sails are not trimmed for the conditions and people are doing things that are dangerous - overall a sloppy job of leadership.
sails not trimmed - Look at 1:17 to see how loose the foot is. The main isn't anywhere near de-powered. No wonder they feel overpowered.
people are doing dangerous things - look at 2:39 - the young guy is on the bow trying to bring the sail forward to lash it down. He's on the leeward side of the sail. If there were any waves breaking on the bow he would be at the mercy. Technique that is "nice to have" in normal conditions is vital when it gets tough. Do it right when it doesn't count so the when it does count you know how to do it.
People don't know their jobs - The guy who initially eases the job (grey shorts, dark top) goes from easing the jib to running up onto the foredeck Huh?? Then at 3:11 he goes down below. What is his role on the boat? Look at 1:24 at the woman in the light blue top and red/black foul weather pants. Death grip on the stanchion. I don't blame her.
Overall a poor job of sailing and a miserable experience for the people involved because of the sloppy and ignorant leadership on the boat.
@Blether333 Yup :)
LOL Olav who appointed you BOSS? You were not there. Boat and crew all safely home safe and sound. No drama. How about some vids of your sailing we can comment on?
OlavThyvold: Why don’t you tell them what you really think?
Why is there always an Olav being the armchair quarterback?
@@josephm40 But Olav is right :)
Too many heads in line with the boom.
Girl puts jacket over PFD......
Great seamanship and readiness! Could of been a disaster otherwise
Guy on foredeck is way to slow. Should have had spinnaker set up and going up as soon as they turned downwind to really get full effect of squall. Bunch of lightweights. Go big or don't go at all.
lmao most races are done for fun by non-professional crew. jesus.
Un’altro video dove si vede chiaramente come NON bisogna comportarsi in quelle condizioni. Troppa gente in pozzetto, 2 ore per mettere in sicurezza il Genoa....
Not great sailing. No use of traveller to de-power main and no reefing pennants even rigged. Poor preparation and seamanship. Inexperienced crew recovered well with jib take down though.
walk in the park... :)
Nope 👎🏴🤪