Whelp, I never thought I'd see the day, but someone was stupid enough to say something like this on a video that's 10 hours long. Humanity, ladies and gentlemen.
Gotta say, like Charlie said, for a game that handles its characters so comparatively well, I was disappointed that Sonic never even adressed Sages apparent death. He didn’t even seem down at all.
As he's flying down he actually appears to be crying, it's easy to miss though and it might just be the blur effect, but it's a neat detail if so. Him just not wanting to show his emotion at it around the others.
Sega has this weird mandate that Sonic isn't allowed to show emotion in media. There was this comic that took place like..20-some odd years in the future, where Sonic lost his wife and kids, and in the drafts, he was losing it, absolutely BAWLING, but they vastly toned it down in the final release, where he's just whimpering.
@@Essu_ You mean 20 years later? The Archie comic where sonic became king and lost his wife? I remember that vividly. Pretty sure the dude became homeless at one point
I swear at 5:38:32, Charlie couldn’t have timed that cutscene better. Music had such perfect timing. Edit: seems like sun of y’all are lost so lemme elaborate. The knight’s jumping and landing precisely line up with the pronunciation of the word “flame” in the song, the jump of course lining up with the opening “fla” and the landing following the forward enunciation, ending the word at “ame”. Another nice thing to notice is as SOON as sonic catches the blade against the rocks, the guitar riff starts playing. That doesn’t always happen, since I didn’t get that exact timing when I fought knight.
A lot of people don’t instantly think to parry during the wyvern fight, even tho the island has many parry challenges.. Another thing is people think you need to perfectly time the parry but all you need to do is hold the buttons down and he’ll automatically parry once he’s hit
Kinda weird that it automatically parries though since everyone instinctively thinks Parries are meant to be reaction based...as that is pretty much what they are. I think getting rid of the automatic parry, making it reaction based, and simply making the parry window on the lenient side for Super Sonic would've made it far less overpowering and way more satisfying to use. Maybe have that little string that telegraphs to the player that an attack is coming could change color or something to indicate that, if the player wants to parry, that's the time?
@@joshuatokosi a challenge. They are missing a challenge. As fun as they are, the game does a good job making you feel like a badass. But not enough struggle
2:53:42 Getting last Chaos Emerald on Wyvern's head 2:55:40 BECOMING SUPER SONIC! 2:55:51 Wyvern Bossfight (Phase 1) 2:59:34 Wyvern Bossfight (Phase 2) 3:02:35 Wyvern Bossfight (Kinda Phase 3?) 3:03:03 Wyvern Bossfight (Last Phase) ● 3:05:13 Chaos Island 5:34:38 Getting last Chaos Emerald on Knights head 5:33:41 BECOMING SUPER SONIC! 5:35:45 Knight Bossfight (Phase 1) 5:37:12 Knight Bossfight (Phase 2) 5:38:32 Knight Bossfight (Final Phase) ● 7:54:15 Supreme Bossfight (Phase 1) 7:55:20 Supreme Bossfight (Final Phase) 7:57:05 Charlie clutches the Bossfight 7:59:35 THE END Bossfight 8:11:34 Sonic Destroys THE END 8:13:20 Eggman😔 8:18:03 The group preparing to take off 8:24:01 Secret Eggman ending
@Oz I did this boss fight with no raised states and had to finish with 20 rings left I understand the stress that comes from this fight with 400 hundred rings
This is just my take. I dont think Sonic was avoiding mentioning Sage's death. I think he intentionally didn't mention it for the sake of his friends. They just spent the whole game trapped in cyber space, and went through a roller coaster of emotions through their time on the star fall islands. The last thing they needed to hear was the news of someone's death. You can even see Sonic looking kinda stoic when he flies down to greet them as Super Sonic. But once they're together, he puts on a smile for them. So tldr, I don't think Sonic doesnt feel anything about Sage's death. I think he does, but he's pretending not to, as to avoid putting his friends through more stress.
I didn’t except the game to go for the heart like that at the end. Like damn. They really had Eggman actually develop a paternal bond and love for someone only to immediately have that someone die right as he comes to truly realize what he was feeling. I’m glad it seems like he is gonna retrieve her somehow.
i do very much agree with that last little rant about eggman being way more conciliatory and the ending making sonic look a bit like a dick. in adventure 2, he seems quietly sombre about what was, at the time of making the game, supposed to be the proper permadeath of shadow, even giving him a sort of salute, reminding everybody of his sacrifice and giving a last goodbye as the final line of dialogue. feels jarringly cheery here.
Specially after he cared so much about Sage in the game itself. But yeah, it is clear that SEGA kinda rushed the ending, so I'm not minding it as much, it clearly was an oversight due to that.
Thing is, this follows up the story where Eggman took over 99% of the world. It's like, "you think Imma just forget that?". It kinda sucks he didn't acknowledge Sage's sacrifice but being so indulgent on Eggman now would feel a bit awkward.
Thing is Sonic isn't allowed to show off any emotions of sadness or even Cry due to a lawsuit that happened between Sega and a writer one some of the Sonic comics over a decade ago. He has to remain flat as per Sega mandates after that lawsuit. Not many people know this so it's understandable why Sonic looks like a dick for not really saying anything about Sage really does make him look like a dick.
In cutscenes he keeps looking at his phone, talking over them, having conversations with the chat and making monologues, not even looking at them and paying attention half the time, he's not even reading the subtitles on the Chaos people cutscenes which don't speak English so he's literally missing them all (which is quite evident when he literally just says "I have no idea what's going on" and then proceeded to sum up the story thus far completely wrong). Then in his Moist Meter review he calls the story kinda mid and basic, bro not only you weren't paying attention, you were actively avoiding it ☠️, it's infuriating to watch.
People take this guy's opinions on media too seriously overall. He's just a chill and relatable dude, but his opinions on many things shouldn't mean as much to people as the views of his review videos seem to suggest they do.
He liked it and he didn't get invested in the story. I agree he shouldn't talk about the story too much but i don't think he got too much into it in the review
I think the play time here speaks for everything in his review, honestly. Dude beat an open world game in 8 hours, even if it is a Sonic game. My final play time was 30, and while I did 100% the game, I was blue-blazing through it to avoid seeing spoilers online.
In hindsight the fight is ok, but it really feels like they were low on time and just said "remember that hacking minigame, let's just drop a Titan and world destroying monstrosity in there and put them in space, there's our final boss". Given how epic the other Titan fights were I really wish this was more cinematic, and that Super Sonic was actually involved.
@@AyoSteven.Official And you are too easy to please, the first 3 bosses are miles better and it’s not even small either it’s supposed to be the biggest and best boss in the entire game and it’s not even close to the 1st titan
Many people don't know but Super Sonic and Super Saiyan were created together. Both writers spent the summer bouncing ideas and drafts between one another back when Sonic 2 was in development and Akira was doing the freeza fight. The writers are kind of best bros. Sonic 2 was supposed to be out before DBZ super saiyan debuted, but Sonic 2 got delayed a few months.
@@pikmin8129 Ya i'm not yanking your chain. It will probably be hard to find concrete info for you at this point seeing as that was 30 years ago now, but it's true. Both the lead of sonic 2 and Akira have spoken about it so they probably had a good bro summer in their younger years. It's why they look so similar, also note Super sonic has red eyes. The original version of Super Saiyan was designed with red eyes.
I don’t believe it. The “Super sayain, Son Goku” (1991) came out a year earlier then sonic 2 (1992). This would indicate that sonic 1 instead came out close to, or a few months within Goku turning Super Sayain. In the same exact season actually. One if the guys at sega said he was a big dragonball fan. That should be a good indicator of where he got the iconic form from. Another iconic form.
@@lambousginiguccigod2007 Guess you forgot to look up the part where Sonic 2 was delayed. You do realize a video games published date is months after work is done right? shonen jump publications are done the week of if i'm not mistaken, or maybe it's the month of. Anyways ya the form was co created. You don't quite understand the time involved for game development. Sonic 2 was already being created when SSJ debuted. Again both were friends. Dare I puzzle you some more with the thought that Sonic achieved his state by holding all 8 chaos emeralds as to where Goku Recently achieved his ssj God form by uniting 6 Saiyans of righteousness? Not the same number, but definitely the same premise. Makes me wonder if he was nodding to his friend.
My interpretation is that Sonic is just playing with them. Especially wyvern and knight. There isn’t a good narrative reason Sonic’s parry lowers wyvern’s durability to attack or Sonic has to first attack the shield to attack knight.
5:37:55 Shield and music time very well and then when Moist says "I have to finish this off now", the music and combat really shine in the cutscene, especially here 5:38:22 before legit slapping it and the sword coming out really well and even when sonic gets hit against a wall, in total, the reason I even made this comment is to say "HOLY MOLY, THIS IS ALL TIMED PERFECTLY".
Just in case for anyone who doesn't know and sees this, the shooter sections for the hacking mini game and final boss give you a shield to the type of shot you use so when shooting dark you are immune to dark attacks and light when shooting light so it's way easier than it looks.
I would say that by itself; it's intense and challenging but after 4 banger super sonic bosses, it's disappointing because you're expecting that same style of play but in space this time.
8:24:36. You see, this game’s Sonic isn’t the same as the one from 1998 - 2009. That Sonic cares for everyone in just all around is a better portrayal of him compared to the Sonic from 2010 and now. But it’s understandable Charlie doesnt know that
I think it is more that ending was a bit rushed (even final boss fight) so Sonic comes off as if he doesn't care about Sage's demise (though to me it did kinda look like he was holding in tears as he descends in Super form but maybe it was just Light and glow around eyes) Because everywhere else he does act like he did before 2009.
The IDW comics are the only canon ones to the main timeline and you see Sonic there care for everything and everyone all the time, even trying to make peace with Robotnik, Surge and Metal Sonic, you are wrong ☠️. This is just the game being rushed, which is apparent all throughout Ouranos Island.
@@Ghostel3591 sonic holding back tears is prettybin character. There was a panel in the archie comics where the artist made sonic sob and sega told them to tone it down. Still, a "sayonara, shadow the hedgehog" moment would have been nice.
This isn't 2010 sonic anymore, this is a new era that's going to try to connect every era together. Some 3D sonic games loses a bit quality near the end, usually rushing the final battles quality or the story itself. This lack of quality doesn't mean this is the same direction for this Sonic as how it has been the last decade.
@@angrydiddykong262 no it’s definitely 2010s Sonic, just a better written version. If you really compare the 2000s writing to Frontiers you’ll see small differences that end up being really noticeable afterwards
Charlie not holding down the boost button is infuriating because it's always just for about half a second, half a second boost for a quarter second of maintained boost speed just for him to press the button again half a second later
I respect that the Hard Mode True Final Boss did NOT pull punches as a bullet hell. Not that it's Touhou hard, but I bet for damn sure it stopped a few runs. I thought The End was sick, more fun than Supreme which is by far the weakest Titan. For some reason. I wouldn't mind a patch or a mod to buff its health significantly to hear more of Vandalize.
It’s probably because you like the gameplay. I think it’s more underwhelming and less action focused. I think it would’ve been better if it was a phase rather than the whole fight
Im glad you're enjoying the game dude. I didn't think I would like Frontiers but it's actually good. Can't wait to see what they build on in the next one 🤘🙏
5:39:48 I don't know why I find this funny, but the explosion with Charlie's dead expression and how the light shines on his face idk it's just funny to me
Low-key waiting for his next MW2 Stream upload. I'm not getting the game but I wanna watch him play lol. I'm glad you're uploading the sonic streams Charlie.
Charlie says the music goes hard for a Sonic game multiple times, has he ever played a Sonic game before, I’m wondering. No hate but he should play more Sonic games or listen to them, Sonic is known for banger music
Ok so for me I didn't even get to fight "the end" in that galaga section, my game basically just skipped right over it for some reason and I beat the boss without it. Anyone else have that happen?
Ok, but I never fought the Meatball(The End) for me on Ps5 it was a cutscene of Sonic smashing through it... did I miss something?? I was max level, with 100% of everything, tbh I don't mind that I missed the bullet hell. I'm just confused about why this bossed was skipped for me?
Only problem I had other than not holding parry is Charlie boosts way too much. He does it when he doesn't need to, then loses control coz he's to fast. Then he increases his speed with the Koco making it worse for himself. If your platforming or trying to specifically avoid something just slow down. You don't need to boost everytime you jump or you will go flying.
@@spooderman320 check out NeatOnTheRocks sonic frontiers challenge video, theres a part where squids trail was going faster than sonic after he kept running out of boost when agaisnt the shield escape sequence (level 1 speed by the way) having the maximum amount of rings you can hold have similar speeds with level 99 speed stat as well
Are you kidding me at the end there?! Were you not paying attention to the story? Sonic will literally run straight into his own grave if it meant saving people. Whether they're part of his circle of friends or not is completely irrelevant. He's been that way since his very first adventures on the Genesis. Not only did he save his friends- almost at the cost of his own life- he also saved Eggman, _his nemesis,_ from a similar fate. As well as avenged an ancient civilization way before his time by killing the thing that wiped them out! Saving the entire world in the process! Sonic doesn't save people just because they're his friends. He does it because it's right! Because it's just, and decent, and above all; it's kind! Also Sage isn't dead. Eggman was able to recover her in the end! If anything, surviving something that should have killed her really DOES make her Eggman's daughter, but that's besides the point. I know you know that, because you SAW that cutscene right before your little tirade!
Honestly the franchise could really use new VAs, Eggman and Tails are the only alright ones right now imo. They actually planned to have everyone recasted, almost all the VAs announced leaving the series, but they got back somehow
@@nemi9217 because Sega actually wants these voice actors, specially Roger whom they've gone out of their way and comfort zone to keep (like him wanting to leave Sonic to be with his family more and Sega somehow fixing the contract with him so he can keep voicing the character), getting upset over these voices after a decade is really petty honestly
People still think Sonic is a goody two-shoes protagonist? Sega hurry up and make Sonic & the Black Knight Ultimate! (aka port) Kids need to be shown what happens when Sonic is faced with delusional idealists...
@@migl1802 also big sonic fan here the game is really good for it's first open zone title but it got a bit repetitive after a while other than that it was an amazing game
Dude didn't pay attention to any of the story, wasn't even reading the subtitles for the ancients, and then called the story mid on his moist meter. bruh
it is so frustrating watching this because he clearly does not know you can hold the parry lol (edit) literally the MOMENT i paused to write this comment is when he figured it out
I mean i think its kinda a mix of two things, the thing you said and the fact the game was rushed by sega, bc even in games like adventure 2 where shadow died sonic at least felt a bit of sadness and sayed one last goodbye, here he is just like "man thats tough"
Maybe this is a hot take, but sonic frontiers is just sonic 06 if it wasn’t a broken mess. Just look at the cut content that discovered for frontiers and you’ll realize how much potential it had. For fucks sake they couldn’t even give us a proper final boss
I’m doing shorts to bosses before I’m starting to retire the game to move on to another or might leave my channel for while since I’m struggling to get views and subs
sonic is like a man thats not a hero if you think about it, for example in sonic 1 the only reason he battle eggman its because of the animals and nature nothing else so... he is more of a man who is trown into hero stuff
Yeah ngl, that ending kinda fuckin sucked, man really flew off with his friends and left Eggman to mourn alone, kinda wished the game at least had him say something before leaving lmao
a little short for a clip don’t ya think
It's still a bit too short in my opinion lol
😂
Noice
It's shortin time
Honestly it could’ve had about another few minutes in length
charlie aggressively fishing so he can get memories and keys while theres calming music in the background and its suppose to be relaxing is so funny
Timestamp please
@@enocjimenez972 like 7:39:40 i think i can’t remember if its the 1st or 2nd fishing trip
@@MergeTheGreatLakes thanks
Man that ending scene of egg man standing alone is a fucking gut punch, actually had me in tears
are you 10..??
@@suckmytoast3351 that was incredibly sad what are you talking about
@@suckmytoast3351 it takes someone with some measure of maturity to admit they cried at a scene, it takes a child to mock that.
@@suckmytoast3351 What a shitty thing to ask someone after they express feeling a certain way to something.
That was depressing, he could have had a new permanent teammate, that guy just cant win😔
Charlie fucked up the parry so many times he didn’t get to see that bad ass scene when sonic throws wyvern at the mountain lol
He did get the teeth QTE against Giganto though so it's all good.
Whelp, I never thought I'd see the day, but someone was stupid enough to say something like this on a video that's 10 hours long. Humanity, ladies and gentlemen.
Where you what now
@@endcorruption993 what💀
@@zscarhazza bro is lost💀
When Sonic said “Guess you grew up on me a little fast” then Charlie said “it’s been 30 years, Sonic.” I was dead 🤣💀
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@@cwalshy6527 5:19:27
Exactly what I thought in that moment.
Gotta say, like Charlie said, for a game that handles its characters so comparatively well, I was disappointed that Sonic never even adressed Sages apparent death. He didn’t even seem down at all.
As he's flying down he actually appears to be crying, it's easy to miss though and it might just be the blur effect, but it's a neat detail if so. Him just not wanting to show his emotion at it around the others.
Sonic never shows his emotion when he's upset in front of others just like when chip died or even cosmo from sonic x
Sega has this weird mandate that Sonic isn't allowed to show emotion in media. There was this comic that took place like..20-some odd years in the future, where Sonic lost his wife and kids, and in the drafts, he was losing it, absolutely BAWLING, but they vastly toned it down in the final release, where he's just whimpering.
@@Essu_ You mean 20 years later? The Archie comic where sonic became king and lost his wife? I remember that vividly. Pretty sure the dude became homeless at one point
@@kay_ko The ending felt very rushed compared to the other bosses. I like to think they had a lot more planned
I swear at 5:38:32, Charlie couldn’t have timed that cutscene better. Music had such perfect timing.
Edit: seems like sun of y’all are lost so lemme elaborate. The knight’s jumping and landing precisely line up with the pronunciation of the word “flame” in the song, the jump of course lining up with the opening “fla” and the landing following the forward enunciation, ending the word at “ame”. Another nice thing to notice is as SOON as sonic catches the blade against the rocks, the guitar riff starts playing. That doesn’t always happen, since I didn’t get that exact timing when I fought knight.
Ikr
It's scripted
@@NeroV1L3you believe he scripted a 10-hour stream…?
@@king_joni1906 the game, silly
@@NeroV1L3the cutscene is, the music isn’t. it just happened to time perfectly lol. you can hear it doesn’t cut or fade out to play that specific part
The little smirk Charlie does after Knight gets cut up is everything
A lot of people don’t instantly think to parry during the wyvern fight, even tho the island has many parry challenges.. Another thing is people think you need to perfectly time the parry but all you need to do is hold the buttons down and he’ll automatically parry once he’s hit
Kinda weird that it automatically parries though since everyone instinctively thinks Parries are meant to be reaction based...as that is pretty much what they are. I think getting rid of the automatic parry, making it reaction based, and simply making the parry window on the lenient side for Super Sonic would've made it far less overpowering and way more satisfying to use. Maybe have that little string that telegraphs to the player that an attack is coming could change color or something to indicate that, if the player wants to parry, that's the time?
@@Crispeaks yeah the bosses always feel like they’re missing something
Wait a goddamn second, you're telling me that I could just hold down the parry buttons and it would auto parry??
@@joshuatokosi a challenge. They are missing a challenge. As fun as they are, the game does a good job making you feel like a badass. But not enough struggle
The game LITERALLY TELLS YOU to parry the boss before you start. You don't have to think just take a few seconds and read the dialogue box.
2:53:42 Getting last Chaos Emerald on Wyvern's head
2:55:40 BECOMING SUPER SONIC!
2:55:51 Wyvern Bossfight (Phase 1)
2:59:34 Wyvern Bossfight (Phase 2)
3:02:35 Wyvern Bossfight (Kinda Phase 3?)
3:03:03 Wyvern Bossfight (Last Phase)
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3:05:13 Chaos Island
5:34:38 Getting last Chaos Emerald on Knights head
5:33:41 BECOMING SUPER SONIC!
5:35:45 Knight Bossfight (Phase 1)
5:37:12 Knight Bossfight (Phase 2)
5:38:32 Knight Bossfight (Final Phase)
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7:54:15 Supreme Bossfight (Phase 1)
7:55:20 Supreme Bossfight (Final Phase)
7:57:05 Charlie clutches the Bossfight
7:59:35 THE END Bossfight
8:11:34 Sonic Destroys THE END
8:13:20 Eggman😔
8:18:03 The group preparing to take off
8:24:01 Secret Eggman ending
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I made a funny video essay on how we got to this game, if you're a fan of sonic check it out!!
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Thank you so much for putting timestamps 👌
7:57:00 The clutch against Supreme with that ring count was spectacular.
Even got the timing on the song, what a clutch!
@Oz I did this boss fight with no raised states and had to finish with 20 rings left I understand the stress that comes from this fight with 400 hundred rings
This is just my take. I dont think Sonic was avoiding mentioning Sage's death. I think he intentionally didn't mention it for the sake of his friends. They just spent the whole game trapped in cyber space, and went through a roller coaster of emotions through their time on the star fall islands. The last thing they needed to hear was the news of someone's death. You can even see Sonic looking kinda stoic when he flies down to greet them as Super Sonic. But once they're together, he puts on a smile for them. So tldr, I don't think Sonic doesnt feel anything about Sage's death. I think he does, but he's pretending not to, as to avoid putting his friends through more stress.
I didn’t except the game to go for the heart like that at the end. Like damn. They really had Eggman actually develop a paternal bond and love for someone only to immediately have that someone die right as he comes to truly realize what he was feeling. I’m glad it seems like he is gonna retrieve her somehow.
Eggdad finally got a W it seems
i do very much agree with that last little rant about eggman being way more conciliatory and the ending making sonic look a bit like a dick. in adventure 2, he seems quietly sombre about what was, at the time of making the game, supposed to be the proper permadeath of shadow, even giving him a sort of salute, reminding everybody of his sacrifice and giving a last goodbye as the final line of dialogue. feels jarringly cheery here.
Specially after he cared so much about Sage in the game itself. But yeah, it is clear that SEGA kinda rushed the ending, so I'm not minding it as much, it clearly was an oversight due to that.
@@mateusineo8755 true true you really start to feel that the middle part was the most finished.
Thing is, this follows up the story where Eggman took over 99% of the world. It's like, "you think Imma just forget that?". It kinda sucks he didn't acknowledge Sage's sacrifice but being so indulgent on Eggman now would feel a bit awkward.
Thing is Sonic isn't allowed to show off any emotions of sadness or even Cry due to a lawsuit that happened between Sega and a writer one some of the Sonic comics over a decade ago. He has to remain flat as per Sega mandates after that lawsuit.
Not many people know this so it's understandable why Sonic looks like a dick for not really saying anything about Sage really does make him look like a dick.
@@NiohArcadia link?
Glad you liked Frontier, Charlie
While not perfect, this game actually made me hopeful for the future.
Watching him fight the titans without parrying was painful.
@Chad They decreased the parry window in a recent update.
@Chad well boring or not, you’ve gotta admit that they absolutely nailed the HYPE factor with the first 3 titan boss fights
@Chad how?? The music was never that good in old games.
@@Valstrax420only in the master king koco trials
In cutscenes he keeps looking at his phone, talking over them, having conversations with the chat and making monologues, not even looking at them and paying attention half the time, he's not even reading the subtitles on the Chaos people cutscenes which don't speak English so he's literally missing them all (which is quite evident when he literally just says "I have no idea what's going on" and then proceeded to sum up the story thus far completely wrong). Then in his Moist Meter review he calls the story kinda mid and basic, bro not only you weren't paying attention, you were actively avoiding it ☠️, it's infuriating to watch.
People take this guy's opinions on media too seriously overall. He's just a chill and relatable dude, but his opinions on many things shouldn't mean as much to people as the views of his review videos seem to suggest they do.
@@proudtobeme1ashkente Agreed.
He liked it and he didn't get invested in the story. I agree he shouldn't talk about the story too much but i don't think he got too much into it in the review
I think the play time here speaks for everything in his review, honestly. Dude beat an open world game in 8 hours, even if it is a Sonic game. My final play time was 30, and while I did 100% the game, I was blue-blazing through it to avoid seeing spoilers online.
@@absoutezeo2126 lmao what
kinda wish The End was similar to the Dark Gaia final boss where we would fight along side Sage.
In hindsight the fight is ok, but it really feels like they were low on time and just said "remember that hacking minigame, let's just drop a Titan and world destroying monstrosity in there and put them in space, there's our final boss". Given how epic the other Titan fights were I really wish this was more cinematic, and that Super Sonic was actually involved.
@@speedude0164 Agreed, definitely felt rushed
@@kevkirby2581 Sonic niggas can never be pleased. Y'all literally find the smallest shit to complain about
@@speedude0164 it was rushed
@@AyoSteven.Official And you are too easy to please, the first 3 bosses are miles better and it’s not even small either it’s supposed to be the biggest and best boss in the entire game and it’s not even close to the 1st titan
I love how he goes from a 8 hour run and just starts a different game with an extra 2 hours
Many people don't know but Super Sonic and Super Saiyan were created together. Both writers spent the summer bouncing ideas and drafts between one another back when Sonic 2 was in development and Akira was doing the freeza fight. The writers are kind of best bros. Sonic 2 was supposed to be out before DBZ super saiyan debuted, but Sonic 2 got delayed a few months.
Is thus true? That sounds so fucking cool
@@pikmin8129 Ya i'm not yanking your chain. It will probably be hard to find concrete info for you at this point seeing as that was 30 years ago now, but it's true. Both the lead of sonic 2 and Akira have spoken about it so they probably had a good bro summer in their younger years. It's why they look so similar, also note Super sonic has red eyes. The original version of Super Saiyan was designed with red eyes.
Figured that. Sonic has some of the same elements as dragon ball so im not surprised in the slightest.
I don’t believe it. The “Super sayain, Son Goku” (1991) came out a year earlier then sonic 2 (1992).
This would indicate that sonic 1 instead came out close to, or a few months within Goku turning Super Sayain. In the same exact season actually.
One if the guys at sega said he was a big dragonball fan. That should be a good indicator of where he got the iconic form from. Another iconic form.
@@lambousginiguccigod2007 Guess you forgot to look up the part where Sonic 2 was delayed. You do realize a video games published date is months after work is done right? shonen jump publications are done the week of if i'm not mistaken, or maybe it's the month of. Anyways ya the form was co created. You don't quite understand the time involved for game development. Sonic 2 was already being created when SSJ debuted. Again both were friends. Dare I puzzle you some more with the thought that Sonic achieved his state by holding all 8 chaos emeralds as to where Goku Recently achieved his ssj God form by uniting 6 Saiyans of righteousness? Not the same number, but definitely the same premise. Makes me wonder if he was nodding to his friend.
I’m really fucking sad that Charlie didn’t get to see the animation of sonic throwing wyvern at the mountain
5:38:45 that sync was insane
playlist and boss fights havent been this cool since sonic adventure 1 and 2
@@xerci2420 what are u talking about??
From what i saw, the bosses have all synced songs, that final cutscene will always play that part
@@7_wd40 he's saying that the songs haven't been this hype since sonic adventures 1 and 2
What part of this was confusing
The whole Knight fight was surprisingly in sync the whole time.
Funny thing if you draw a figure 8, you get infinite boost
Oh THATS how you get it?
I thought it was just if you cyloop enough
@@mattygee6852yessir, infinity sign does the trick. Just make sure it connects
I like how the game shows that these titans are their own unique trouble for super sonic. Ones he actually has to try and defeat.
My interpretation is that Sonic is just playing with them. Especially wyvern and knight. There isn’t a good narrative reason Sonic’s parry lowers wyvern’s durability to attack or Sonic has to first attack the shield to attack knight.
5:38:43 has to be my favourite moment.
incredible how the music wasn't scripted there, it was just a fluke that it was timed so well, so awesome 😂
5:37:55 Shield and music time very well and then when Moist says "I have to finish this off now", the music and combat really shine in the cutscene, especially here 5:38:22 before legit slapping it and the sword coming out really well and even when sonic gets hit against a wall, in total, the reason I even made this comment is to say "HOLY MOLY, THIS IS ALL TIMED PERFECTLY".
Just in case for anyone who doesn't know and sees this, the shooter sections for the hacking mini game and final boss give you a shield to the type of shot you use so when shooting dark you are immune to dark attacks and light when shooting light so it's way easier than it looks.
His fight with the Knight Titan is another level of perfection
I wonder if he found Eggman’s piss spot.
The game is amazing but the ending fight is pretty lack luster
Better than missing it entirely like most folk will.
Agreed after all the other Super Sonic bosses
Yeahh I was big disappointed 😞 but all the titan fights were amazing
It's meant to be the 'Secret Boss'. I would consider Supreme the official Final Boss.
I would say that by itself; it's intense and challenging but after 4 banger super sonic bosses, it's disappointing because you're expecting that same style of play but in space this time.
8:24:36. You see, this game’s Sonic isn’t the same as the one from 1998 - 2009. That Sonic cares for everyone in just all around is a better portrayal of him compared to the Sonic from 2010 and now. But it’s understandable Charlie doesnt know that
I think it is more that ending was a bit rushed (even final boss fight) so Sonic comes off as if he doesn't care about Sage's demise (though to me it did kinda look like he was holding in tears as he descends in Super form but maybe it was just Light and glow around eyes)
Because everywhere else he does act like he did before 2009.
The IDW comics are the only canon ones to the main timeline and you see Sonic there care for everything and everyone all the time, even trying to make peace with Robotnik, Surge and Metal Sonic, you are wrong ☠️. This is just the game being rushed, which is apparent all throughout Ouranos Island.
@@Ghostel3591 sonic holding back tears is prettybin character. There was a panel in the archie comics where the artist made sonic sob and sega told them to tone it down.
Still, a "sayonara, shadow the hedgehog" moment would have been nice.
This isn't 2010 sonic anymore, this is a new era that's going to try to connect every era together.
Some 3D sonic games loses a bit quality near the end, usually rushing the final battles quality or the story itself.
This lack of quality doesn't mean this is the same direction for this Sonic as how it has been the last decade.
@@angrydiddykong262 no it’s definitely 2010s Sonic, just a better written version. If you really compare the 2000s writing to Frontiers you’ll see small differences that end up being really noticeable afterwards
Thanks Mr.HugeCharles for the VOD ❤
You can throw the titan in the air for an air combo with the move when you circle around the enemy.
Quick cyloop
they tell you that you just gotta hold the parry and sonic just does it when the attack connects like it aint hard
Charlie not holding down the boost button is infuriating because it's always just for about half a second, half a second boost for a quarter second of maintained boost speed just for him to press the button again half a second later
IGN First strats lol
If you quick cyloop him super sonic fucking chucks him into the air it’s amazing lol, I want more boss fights like this in the future!
Which boss?
@@DustEMusic 3 first bosses
@@neopabo You can do that with all bosses except “the end”
Can't fling Wyvern into the air, but Sonic will chain it up so it can't run or counter while suspended.
00:30 I’m in love with the coco
watched this stream on twitch & i couldn’t believe he played sonic for 8+ hours straight.
He blasts through games like that
@@crust9889 hey! i’m new around here
I respect that the Hard Mode True Final Boss did NOT pull punches as a bullet hell. Not that it's Touhou hard, but I bet for damn sure it stopped a few runs. I thought The End was sick, more fun than Supreme which is by far the weakest Titan. For some reason. I wouldn't mind a patch or a mod to buff its health significantly to hear more of Vandalize.
* I'm Here xD
It’s probably because you like the gameplay. I think it’s more underwhelming and less action focused. I think it would’ve been better if it was a phase rather than the whole fight
He doesn't start smiling when he hears the giganto boss music for the first time, he starts smiling as soon as he lands his first hit
Watching Charlie repeatedly try and fail to parry against Wyvern was absolutely painful
Love his frustration with having not figured out that he can parry all the titan attacks 😂
6:08 the music sounds like the main theme for Hyrule Warriors Age Of Calamity
I was wondering why it sounded so familiar, thank you
Watching Charlie during the Wyvern boss has gotta be one of the most frustrating things I’ve ever experienced 😭🙏
Im glad you're enjoying the game dude. I didn't think I would like Frontiers but it's actually good.
Can't wait to see what they build on in the next one 🤘🙏
What is it with sonic games and blowing up the moon.
5:39:48 I don't know why I find this funny, but the explosion with Charlie's dead expression and how the light shines on his face idk it's just funny to me
This is going to be his face when he destroys the US Immigration System.
Figuratively destroys it
That's how Charlie handles bullies in real life.
The fact that this game didn't even get noticed in the game awards for beat ost/score is egregious
its so funny when charlie goes on youtube without signing in and his vid is the first one on recommends
Low-key waiting for his next MW2 Stream upload. I'm not getting the game but I wanna watch him play lol. I'm glad you're uploading the sonic streams Charlie.
Damn, that's a long clip.
7:57:07 perfect music timing
Love the long clips tbh, I know it's a meme in the comments but I like to put it on one of my screens and just let it play while I do other things
Did they get Sleeping With Sirens for the boss music??
Yes. Yes they did.
Kinda wish they'd had used more transitions. Something about the sound design of the game that just feels so hollow.
@@queenclarity4709 i can't believe they went full Metal Gear Rising with the soundtrack during boss fights
Charlie says the music goes hard for a Sonic game multiple times, has he ever played a Sonic game before, I’m wondering. No hate but he should play more Sonic games or listen to them, Sonic is known for banger music
Ok so for me I didn't even get to fight "the end" in that galaga section, my game basically just skipped right over it for some reason and I beat the boss without it. Anyone else have that happen?
Have you played the game on normal?
you have to fight supreme on hard mode to fight the end
The Galaga section is a secret boss only available on hard mode, you get nothing for doing it so don't really bother
It's a secret boss only available on hard mode
@@CanuckleheadFN
More like don’t play pussy mode and actually do play it.
Still thinkin bout the coco
How did he Sync the music so perfectly, on his first try!.
Ok, but I never fought the Meatball(The End) for me on Ps5 it was a cutscene of Sonic smashing through it... did I miss something?? I was max level, with 100% of everything, tbh I don't mind that I missed the bullet hell. I'm just confused about why this bossed was skipped for me?
It's Hard difficulty exclusive, but it doesn't matter much as you only need to fight Supreme on that
Only problem I had other than not holding parry is Charlie boosts way too much.
He does it when he doesn't need to, then loses control coz he's to fast. Then he increases his speed with the Koco making it worse for himself.
If your platforming or trying to specifically avoid something just slow down. You don't need to boost everytime you jump or you will go flying.
the speed stat only effects climbing speed unfortunately
@@spooderman320 check out NeatOnTheRocks sonic frontiers challenge video, theres a part where squids trail was going faster than sonic after he kept running out of boost when agaisnt the shield escape sequence (level 1 speed by the way) having the maximum amount of rings you can hold have similar speeds with level 99 speed stat as well
Are you kidding me at the end there?! Were you not paying attention to the story? Sonic will literally run straight into his own grave if it meant saving people. Whether they're part of his circle of friends or not is completely irrelevant. He's been that way since his very first adventures on the Genesis.
Not only did he save his friends- almost at the cost of his own life- he also saved Eggman, _his nemesis,_ from a similar fate. As well as avenged an ancient civilization way before his time by killing the thing that wiped them out! Saving the entire world in the process!
Sonic doesn't save people just because they're his friends. He does it because it's right! Because it's just, and decent, and above all; it's kind!
Also Sage isn't dead. Eggman was able to recover her in the end! If anything, surviving something that should have killed her really DOES make her Eggman's daughter, but that's besides the point.
I know you know that, because you SAW that cutscene right before your little tirade!
please shut up
You desperately need to step away from your computer just a bit, lad
The issue is that Sonic gives no acknowledgement to Sage's "death" or her final wish. It makes him look like a massive dick.
Angry nerd got on mommy’s iPad again
@@jds8438
_Yeah, let's be real; I frigging deserve this..._
It's a shame this is the last Sonic game you'll have a lot of these voice actors.
Maybe maybe not
Honestly the franchise could really use new VAs, Eggman and Tails are the only alright ones right now imo. They actually planned to have everyone recasted, almost all the VAs announced leaving the series, but they got back somehow
@@nemi9217 because Sega actually wants these voice actors, specially Roger whom they've gone out of their way and comfort zone to keep (like him wanting to leave Sonic to be with his family more and Sega somehow fixing the contract with him so he can keep voicing the character), getting upset over these voices after a decade is really petty honestly
I feel like hold-block parry kind of ruins the boss fights in this game in a way.
People still think Sonic is a goody two-shoes protagonist?
Sega hurry up and make Sonic & the Black Knight Ultimate! (aka port)
Kids need to be shown what happens when Sonic is faced with delusional idealists...
Man this is my favourite "clip"
That’s Kellin Quinn from sleeping with sirens!
Imagine speed runs of this! x_x
This game has some of my favorite boss fights since Metal Gear Rising
Unironically better voice acting than BOTW/TOTK
''This song goes way to hard for sonic'' i dont think charlie has played sonic adventure 1 or 2
Wow thanks for spoiling that you blow the moon up
Wow it's amazing how no none gives a fuck
Piss on the moon*
When I had watch that cut scene That's let you know right there between sonic and Amy real love Chemistry Even though sonic doesn't show it enough.😂
Talk about a fuckin spoiler title 😂
Ikr, thank god idc about sonic
@@migl1802 thank God I beat the game moments before I saw this
@@Magicsone Was it good?
@@migl1802 I thought so, but I'm a big sonic fan so take that with a grain of salt
@@migl1802 also big sonic fan here the game is really good for it's first open zone title but it got a bit repetitive after a while other than that it was an amazing game
2:58:08 come on (COME ON!!!!)
God damn it, second place😢
It's gonna be a Spirit Bomb, I wish...
Dude didn't pay attention to any of the story, wasn't even reading the subtitles for the ancients, and then called the story mid on his moist meter.
bruh
it is so frustrating watching this because he clearly does not know you can hold the parry lol
(edit) literally the MOMENT i paused to write this comment is when he figured it out
is it just me or does it seem like the developers enjoyed evangelion a little too much
Abdallasmash also played the game. At the end of his 5th lets play video he looks at reviews.
Incredible
I wonder if he’ll ever play the dlc? Oh well
Charlie actually gets a great point. Sonic really is a dick to sage
why doesn't he hold the boost buttonnn😩😩😩
Sonic mostly never shows his emotions, so ya..... he might seem like a piece of shit to some people for not concerning about Sage's death, lol.
I mean i think its kinda a mix of two things, the thing you said and the fact the game was rushed by sega, bc even in games like adventure 2 where shadow died sonic at least felt a bit of sadness and sayed one last goodbye, here he is just like "man thats tough"
@@Banana807 Ya, lol. Well, the last DLC update might change that.
@@msamil679 yeah
Maybe this is a hot take, but sonic frontiers is just sonic 06 if it wasn’t a broken mess.
Just look at the cut content that discovered for frontiers and you’ll realize how much potential it had. For fucks sake they couldn’t even give us a proper final boss
*Pisses on the Moon
5:38:32
This is a full stream right here.
why is he so upset at the end
Cause the games unfinished
I’m doing shorts to bosses before I’m starting to retire the game to move on to another or might leave my channel for while since I’m struggling to get views and subs
Jesus Thor is fkn massive how tall is bro 7'6 430 pounds
Such a disappointing final final boss
Charlie pisses on moon
5:20:00
sonic is like a man thats not a hero if you think about it, for example in sonic 1 the only reason he battle eggman its because of the animals and nature nothing else so... he is more of a man who is trown into hero stuff
Yeah ngl, that ending kinda fuckin sucked, man really flew off with his friends and left Eggman to mourn alone, kinda wished the game at least had him say something before leaving lmao
And now they made the ending better which is good
2:56:00
Hm I'm never first. Love your content Charlie
Charles why aren’t you playing god of war
Why aren't you learning to not be a bitch
@@AyoSteven.Official why aren’t you learning to not be angry keyboard warrior, you don’t need to use swear words every time you reply to someone