Really grateful that you appreciated this car for what it is - a simple, comfortable, quiet, everyday EV hatchback. I feel like I’ve seen more and more reviewers unfairly holding a lack of sex appeal against any EV not trying to project any. Not every EV has to try to rival a Tesla for cool factor, and I think the “normal car” vibe could be an asset for a lot of prospective buyers.
It's 30g. It's needs to be extremely capable at that price. It simply isn't. Also they didn't fix the basic EV issues from the first gen. It's like they already knew what was wrong with the first one and left those bugs in the new design.
I cannot agree more. I am going on my second one (62 kwh Tekna). If you understand the car and its purpose when you buy one you won't be disappointed. The major thing is the battery cooling on long trips. I will never drive more than 600 km a day (once or twice a year). If you are driving long distances regularly then it is probably not the car for you due to thermal throttling on charging. Where I am sitting (Sweden) you cannot get a car with this range on for this price.
I've owned a few Teslas but I think this car is a better buy. If you don't need to show off driving EV this is a fantastic daily driver without the hype and drama of the big EV company badge.
As a happy LEAF Plus owner, I agree! Got my top trim one for $24k after incentives. That's the best price you'll get for a 200 mile EV that won't self combust.
We need to stop our pre programmed protection of the evil billionaire. "I don't blame Tesla, who took zillions of public tax dollars to develop more zillions deserves to nickle and dime us for more zillions" I'm over it
@Adam West I see your point, but if Tesla unlocks their stations to other cars now Tesla owners will be waiting in line for charge up and I believe that is one of the reasons Tesla doesn’t go that route. Their charging stations will be utilized by non tesla owners which wasn’t the intention for the stations to begin with.
As a Tesla owner, I have high respect for the Leaf. I didn't realize how far they have come with their technology; this seems like a hell of a car that is flying under the radar. I would not mind having one of these for sure!
The Leaf honestly became slowly one of the most underappreciated inexpensive EV one can buy. Yes, all eyes are on Teslas, Polestar, Audi e-tron, BMW iX, Lucid, Rivian etc. but for the everyday folk this pretty much ticks all of the boxes.
@@lester9230 The Leaf is nicer, but the Bolt is better engineered in every capacity. The Leaf is well put together as a vehicle shell, but as far as it's "EV chops" go it's a complete joke. Poor efficiency, poor range, outdated/obsolete charging connector, very poor ""fast"" charging speeds, and the lack of thermal management in the battery means that anybody who roadtrips with this with any regularity will easily degrade 20% of their battery range over a long ownership duration.
Having my 2020 leaf for a year now and it’s a pretty solid car, pretty cheap to own with current gas prices in the west coast and $0 in maintenance so far.
There is a click noise when acceleration on the second hand car 2020 leaf from dealer. Is this a problem according to this video it says normal am I right ?
I have owned a 2019 Nissan Leaf in Texas for a good while I have 40,000 + miles still no rattles and full battery level. I have driven it from Dallas to San Antonio several times also from Dallas to Galveston. No problem with heat or charging. I use ProPilot on all Hiway driving. I do not get the squeal from my tires as you did in your video. It has been a fun car to drive. Very quiet and comfortable.
My friend has a Leaf, it's a great little car. She lives in the city and it's very practical and compact, love little hatchbacks like this one, and the fact that it's electric is great too. It is annoying how the backseat basically doesn't have a middle seat though, I know it would be cramped but sometimes you just need to drive 5 people lol
Leaf is not a little car. Maybe for American standards but not for Europe. For Europe, it is a decent size middle class car. It is larger than Hyundai Kona and Kia e-nero. The small size car is Renault zoe or fiat 500
@You can eat in class!! Well yeah...every road in Europe for the most part are narrow and cramped with other cars parked and what not. The roads there are built upon medieval horse paths. Here in the US we built things based around the broad spaces we have. So a midsize sedan for you is a compact for us and vice versa
It is really the perfect affordable platform for commuting around town, to work, getting errands done and what not. There are people who will chime in to say "but what about rapid charge to drive 3000 miles across the country" - and the real question is... if you have $20,000 to spend on a car; why on earth would you do that in an EV instead of flying or driving a regular vehicle.
It's strange, but the Leaf is still the 5th most sold electric car in Norway in November 2021. Most car producers introduce their cars in Norway due to the progressive conversion to EVs. Of some reason, the Leaf is still a great buy. Cost-effective, available, and not best in anything. However, good enough for most people. The car makes you think through your need of a car in your every day. It distinguishes between what you require and what you wish you had, but still have plenty of power to accelerate and pass others quickly. Most Leaf owners in Norway charge at home, and to have more than 6.6 Kw internal charger is not really needed. That would increase the electricity bill considerable. Instead, the car is charged by night in 5-10 hours and ready for you the next day. In other words, good enough for the most.
I had a 2015 for a couple of years. Almost the perfect local car for errands. Loved it. Upgraded to a new 2019 a few years ago. I've put 30,000 on it and no problems at all, The Leaf is simply the most underrated and most practical EV on the road.
Being a Nissan Leaf owner, this is just plain false. I love my Leaf, but you really cannot say that we owe anything to Nissan regarding EVs... Although happy they made this car, it did not get mass popularity and Tesla fundamentally pushed, forced, and revolutionized the electric vehicle to a hole other level that no other automaker has ever achieved (again, not discrediting the leaf, especially considering its price! ... just something to consider).
My first EV was a 2016 Leaf SL and what immediately sold me was that silly little nub of a shifter. Just bought the '22 SL + loving it so far. I do miss the weird bubble design of the old leaves that everyone hated though.
Wow I am a 4yr Nissan leaf owner from Colorado, I do read trips and car shows, I tell people at the shows it's great for around town, and I am extreme and do road trips! 40kW batter 150 miles of range! haha! You have to tell the car you want it on E pedal all the time, I've had dealerships turn it off on me before. So I know about that. and I LOVE IT!
I have a perfect battery condition 2013 Nissan Leaf SL , loaded.... that I bought from an engineer.... I researched a lot and it took me months to find the right car but I bought it for $6.5k . No more gas ...no more parts... no more nasty ass rip off gas stations... The whole cost and chore of having a car becomes an afterthought . It has already paid for half of itself just in gas prices alone... forget about potential mechanical repair costs
my parents surprised me with a 2022 nissan leaf and i love it so much! it fits me so well, it’s electric so i don’t have to buy gas, and it’s just so cool and i wanna learn some more info ab it!
I'm really considering buying one. How many times a day (how long does it take to get a full charge?) I'm new to electric cars but I would love one being a student and to save money :)
@@ebonier2044 it’s takes about 3-4 hours for it to charge fully. the battery is great when you drive locally but you drive on the highway it goes down fast. it’s really affordable and nice!
@@punchcake4832 it’s been good for the most part. i’ve only had a few recent problems with the car battery and not getting enough mileage, but aside from that, no other issues with the car.
I’m really thinking of getting this as my first car, I’ve been saving money for roughly 2/3 years and I live over in Chicago so I won’t be taking long road-trips much at all outside of work, grocery shopping and city exploring. I love the concept of this car so much and I hope it works out for me.
What a great review! Thank you! Looking to get a second car and we have been looking closely at this one. You are very eloquent and thorough, a natural at reviews, and I appreciate it. Thanks again!
In Canada Tesla got a grant to build supercharger’s but they also had to put in regular chargers both Chademo/CCS there are tons of Chademo/CCS combo chargers in Canada.
You can get low mileage 2018-2020 Nissan Leafs for around 20k. Maybe if you hustle or negotiate… you can get couple grand off. Definitely worth it more than a 70k Model 3
does the battery take a huge hit using freeway? I have to travel around 120 round trip during weekdays. debating getting bolt. leaf. or just go hybrid.
@@oceanbreeze685 the range is greatly reduced at highway speeds. That is true of all cars elec and gas. My 350 mile tesla gets 250 if you drive 80 nonstop.
200 miles is great for long road trips! I never drive daily more than 200 miles even on roadtrips. You go find free 50 kw charger in some big mall and spend hour or two there for lunch and have your battery almost fully charged.
I really appreciate this thorough review. I just got my license here in Sweden and there is a car pool near my flat, that uses this exact model. Great to see you operating it. Seems like a better fit for me, than the Tesla.
You mentioned no rattles and you're exactly right! Our 2020 is solid and we love it. Our new 2021 M3LR came with a dash rattle and "rub noises" throughout the cabin. Disappointing after paying 50k.
Co worker just bought one. The issue is how far one can drive between charges. This is a great drive around the city type car. Not a car where you plan to drive hundreds of miles.
It really would be a good cheap EV if it wasn't for that CHAdeMO port. 100kw CCS would make this with the larger battery pack a better offering than the Bolt.
I don't know where you are from but Muxsan can add CCS and also install range extender battery in Europe which together makes 80-100 kw charging possible. My plan is to drive couple years with CHAdeMO and then do the upgrade. I charge mostly at home anyway.
I had a leaf for a week as a loaner. I actually LOVED it. I loved the interior, and the lack of piano gloss black awfulness. But... it desperately needs a battery management system. This would allow it to have proper CCS fast charging, and the battery would last far longer, which is the achilles heel of the Leaf. Word is they'll be fixing these things in the next Leaf generation, but the question is WHEN?
2013 Leaf SL... perfect battery capacity , 75000 miles .... some people just don't do research.... if you use only 240v charge to 100% , the battery degrades VERY slowly . If you use only 240v charge to 80% the battery will not degrade at all .... Fuel and parts costs , plus gross filthy , rip off gas stations , become a thing of the past .
@@matthewzizzo4586 Wish I could get the 2nd gen, since the 1st is just super ugly to me. And I have to make 75-90 mile one-way commutes weekly, with no charging time or infrastructure at the destination. A 2nd gen with the larger battery worked well when I had one as a loaner. Sadly in my area Leaf's do suffer bad battery degradation due to weather/climate. For my part, I expect 95%+ capacity after 15-20yrs, regardless of conditions, as my ICE vehicles do so just fine. I do look forward to an EV and the reduced maintenance, even though I do all of my own work anyway.
@@wildonion99 yes indeed... my father is an engineer and we do all our work on our cars ... but there's no work to do on this car , which is better! Yeah that's a heck of a trip with no destination charger at your job.... 2nd generation leaf is a great choice 4u ... I'm going to upgrade to a 200-mile leaf as soon as I can . If the battery prices start really dropping , I would consider installing a 200-mile battery in this ugly car( as you correctly described it ! ) . You probably already know this but , any 2013 Leaf or later can have any leaf battery installed in it , totally plug & play ... In other words , one day I think there's going to be a bunch of leafs that are in good physical condition , but people didn't know how to charge them... so if the battery price is going down ...those two factors + a little bit of work , and you have a nice electric car... that is of course , ugly !
Great Review! Informative and helpful. We’ve been leasing one CRV and one FIT for years and very happy but I want to go electric and the leaf might do it. Your video demonstrates just how drivable and practical the car is for around town which as you say is 99% of the time. I’m hoping to be able to test drive the Leaf soon and and see what my trade in and lease options are. I would want to make sure that any charging system in the house or around town would be universal say if we got this Nissan and later get a larger Honda CRV EV. Thanks for demonstrating a car for the average buyer and helping pave the way from gas or even hybrid that I have now to full EV. Thanks Again!
I love that the infotainment screen is integrated into the dash. Can't stand the stupid tablet style screens that stick up out of the dash of most cars these days.
I don't understand why people talk about using EV's, which are great daily drivers, for road trips when almost no one uses their daily driver as their road trip vehicle. If you have a second car, you're going to have the mom-mobile, which is likely a midsized suv of some kind, and a second vehicle, that if you are trying to budget gas etc, is going to be a car already. I mean, if you are willing to pay 50k or more, you can get a long range EV, but unless you are already relatively wealthy, the pricetag doesnt matter much to you anyway. Or you could get a cheaper gas car/suv and just use that. The most practical use of an EV is commuting. The most practical use of most ICE cars is also commuting.
The Leaf's air-based battery cooling is still a problem, however. A liquid-cooled battery pack would be nice, especially when you reach your 3rd recharge of the day.
That's not a concern for 99% of LEAF drivers. They just don't use the car for long drives with multiple fast charges. The passive air cooled battery is less complex, lighter and more reliable than a liquid cooled one.
Not an issue in daily commutes. The battery only starts overheating once you start doing stupid long road trips and use the DC fast charger consecutively 2~3 times in a row. The newer e+ 62 kWh battery also doesn't heat up nearly as fast as the far more maligned 24, 30 & 40 kWh packs.
There is only one big mistage of lovely Leaf 2 - missing battery cooling. If you need to charge more times per day the rapid-gate happens it means the charging will be very very slow. It can happen also during hot weather...
😍 I ♥️ that it isn’t show offey! It resembles the inside of my present Nissan, which I love. Was hoping they’d make an EV that resembled mine. I didn’t like the look of the hybrid Leaf. This one is just right, beautiful! Thank you for this review!
This is the future of EVs. A great step toward making electric cars more affordable, and therefore increasing their popularity. The US wants all vehicles to be electric by 2035 and theyre not going to do it with teslas.
Thanks for the review. It's interesting to see what's changed, and what is the same as my 2014 Leaf. The interior is very similar, though I would miss the split instrument cluster that I have in mine. I have had no problems at all in my 8 year old Leaf and it is as silent and solid as the day I bought it. I would love to have the added range of the 60kwh model, but my tiny 24kwh has been more than enough for daily city driving. I'm sure the 60kwh would be fine on longer road trips. If you're looking for a city car, there isn't much point in paying for 200 plus miles of range.
@@Kellygirl2688 I have spent nothing on maintenance or repair. It is still running on its original brakes. I do have to lubricate the caliper sliders occasionally due to the brakes not being used as much, but that's an easy DIY thing I check each time I switch from winter to summer tires.
funny things i noticed between your model vs the one in my family (2022 N-Connecta 62KW france) -KEY : yours has 4 buttons, "mine" has 3 -STARTUP : different startup, you guys have a beep and a gap for a long time, we only have a single beep once -STR. WHEEL : looks slightly different but ig it's american version Awesome explanation !
You said that the infotainment on the Nissan Leaf looks dated. You should look that infotainment on the Prius Prime. It looks like the interface of some mobile operating system of the mid-late 2000s.
Thanks for the review, how much is this car in the video? It listed $37400 on the description, however when I search for the car on Edmund, they are 42k or even 45k? How do you get that deal if you don’t mind sharing? Thanks
Seems to be a great car - they got a lot of stuff right other manufacturers still are struggling with today, so give the fact that this is an old model about to be phased out...kudos! Also, thanks for the video, well done! What kind of mic are you using if you don't mind me asking?
It's perfect for shopping trips or getting around town, with a maximum range of 226 miles, however, the lower 149-mile range option may not be enough for some. It's the ideal low-cost mode of transportation for moving around town, going to work, running errands, and so on..... but a LOT of competetion from the big guys - Teslas, Audi e-tron, BMW iX, Lucid, Rivian, Chey, etc
When you say you have 220V, can you be more specific in what Amps you are talking about? Power equal volts times amps so at the end of the day power is kings. Thx!!!!!!
in colder climates. needing 2 subscriptions one for NissanConnect and 2nd for SiriXm (Nissan uses this for staelllite communication). to access key features like turning the heating cabin when is too cold outside or turning charging on). In spite of this car having wifi capabilities, Nissan decided not to give users direct connectivity from smartphones or at least a button on the key fob. this is unfortunate.
I have a '15 leaf with a mile range of 60... and you think 200+ mile range is still a daily commuter ? I'd for sure take road trips in a newer leaf! It has to be doable, maybe even easy.
Looks like leather seats in the vehicle, but just today while speccing a Leaf, those didn't seem to be an option. I looked at all the packages and didn't see them, either.
I had 2 Leafs first generation. Now I have 2020 Bolt and somehow Bolt is more efficient and has enough head and legroom in the back for someone like me 6’2.
The $7500 tax credit only applies for your tax liabilities so if your liability is less that is all you get. So if you think you'll get all of tax credit you might get disappointed ☹️ And it won't rollover to next year.
I drove one of these and honestly did not come away impressed. The sound it makes at low speeds is extremely audible in the cabin and sounds really obnoxious to me. The power was good, but handling was pretty meh compared to the Bolt.
Buddy, $38,000 is NOT pretty affordable for the average yet financially savvy person! Take into account that most financial guideless don't suggest going in debt for a car unless it's absolutely necessary to begin with and if you have to they recommend a three year loan term with 20% down at no more than 8% of your gross monthly income... If you're paying cash you should never pay more than 35% of your gross yearly income and ideally less than that if you want to be frugal. Given that, a single person would need to make over $100,000 a year to be able to afford this and by most standards it wouldn't be a smart move even then....
@@newson1177 I see, I thought you were referring to the leaf's poor battery reliability/health due to only having air cooling. Think they fixed that on the gen2. Your problem is gonna be an issue with most EVs I'm afraid.
Excited to see what Mitsubishi does with that model now that the regular Outlander is a sister to the Nissan Rogue and getting strong reviews. One wonders if Nissan may push the PHEV powertrain into other models. A good idea to get EV-hesitant people to come into the showroom.
What if you live in the city and park your car on the street at night??? How do you charge it ?? Or what if you live in apartment building?? You can’t charge the dam thing!!
The new leafs look a lot better than the initial ones. However it's hard to justify spending nearly 40k on an ev with other options in that price range. I feel like we'd want the new leafs at around 26-28k. But hey it's still a novel technology
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Really grateful that you appreciated this car for what it is - a simple, comfortable, quiet, everyday EV hatchback. I feel like I’ve seen more and more reviewers unfairly holding a lack of sex appeal against any EV not trying to project any. Not every EV has to try to rival a Tesla for cool factor, and I think the “normal car” vibe could be an asset for a lot of prospective buyers.
I'm contemplating buying one once I pay off my gas car and setup a 240v outside outlet for charging one.
It's 30g. It's needs to be extremely capable at that price. It simply isn't. Also they didn't fix the basic EV issues from the first gen. It's like they already knew what was wrong with the first one and left those bugs in the new design.
@@difflocktwo you have unrealistic expectations for 30g. A civic is 30 grand now.
I cannot agree more. I am going on my second one (62 kwh Tekna). If you understand the car and its purpose when you buy one you won't be disappointed. The major thing is the battery cooling on long trips. I will never drive more than 600 km a day (once or twice a year). If you are driving long distances regularly then it is probably not the car for you due to thermal throttling on charging. Where I am sitting (Sweden) you cannot get a car with this range on for this price.
The thing is that I don't think the regular Teslas look sexy or cool, very plain. But also don't think this car is worth 30K either.
I've owned a few Teslas but I think this car is a better buy. If you don't need to show off driving EV this is a fantastic daily driver without the hype and drama of the big EV company badge.
"a few Teslas"
As a happy LEAF Plus owner, I agree! Got my top trim one for $24k after incentives. That's the best price you'll get for a 200 mile EV that won't self combust.
@@tyler9703 why would Tesla want to unlock their network to their competitors? I don’t blame them for not doing so
We need to stop our pre programmed protection of the evil billionaire. "I don't blame Tesla, who took zillions of public tax dollars to develop more zillions deserves to nickle and dime us for more zillions"
I'm over it
@Adam West I see your point, but if Tesla unlocks their stations to other cars now Tesla owners will be waiting in line for charge up and I believe that is one of the reasons Tesla doesn’t go that route. Their charging stations will be utilized by non tesla owners which wasn’t the intention for the stations to begin with.
As a Tesla owner, I have high respect for the Leaf. I didn't realize how far they have come with their technology; this seems like a hell of a car that is flying under the radar. I would not mind having one of these for sure!
It´s a bit old tech, but they make it work insanely good for what it is. I love my leaf
They drive very well, I've had one for 7 years, going to get another.
@@pigknickers2975I made a test drive second hand from dealer. I have heard a noise in 2k with click sound. Is it normal
The Leaf honestly became slowly one of the most underappreciated inexpensive EV one can buy. Yes, all eyes are on Teslas, Polestar, Audi e-tron, BMW iX, Lucid, Rivian etc. but for the everyday folk this pretty much ticks all of the boxes.
not really, the chevy bolt is a much better budget ev
@@lester9230 The Leaf is nicer, but the Bolt is better engineered in every capacity. The Leaf is well put together as a vehicle shell, but as far as it's "EV chops" go it's a complete joke. Poor efficiency, poor range, outdated/obsolete charging connector, very poor ""fast"" charging speeds, and the lack of thermal management in the battery means that anybody who roadtrips with this with any regularity will easily degrade 20% of their battery range over a long ownership duration.
@@0hypnotoad0 the leaf is not nice, I don’t like either but I’d say the bolt is nicer. Leaf seats are better though.
one of the problems with these electric car things is that you can’t get a good ev with acceptable range with out spending stupid money.
Leafs don’t have the firey issue like your Bolts … plus ours are made in Japan , yes please
Having my 2020 leaf for a year now and it’s a pretty solid car, pretty cheap to own with current gas prices in the west coast and $0 in maintenance so far.
Hows your milage?
There is a click noise when acceleration on the second hand car 2020 leaf from dealer. Is this a problem according to this video it says normal am I right ?
I am thinking to buy this car from dealer
You can turn off the “cruise transition” where it forces you to go to the pro-pilot assist. It’s under the settings in the little driver display
I have owned a 2019 Nissan Leaf in Texas for a good while I have 40,000 + miles still no rattles and full battery level. I have driven it from Dallas to San Antonio several times also from Dallas to Galveston. No problem with heat or charging. I use ProPilot on all Hiway driving. I do not get the squeal from my tires as you did in your video. It has been a fun car to drive. Very quiet and comfortable.
We love our 2 Leaf Pluses, and drive them everywhere.
My friend has a Leaf, it's a great little car. She lives in the city and it's very practical and compact, love little hatchbacks like this one, and the fact that it's electric is great too. It is annoying how the backseat basically doesn't have a middle seat though, I know it would be cramped but sometimes you just need to drive 5 people lol
stop it. get help
Leaf is not a little car. Maybe for American standards but not for Europe. For Europe, it is a decent size middle class car. It is larger than Hyundai Kona and Kia e-nero. The small size car is Renault zoe or fiat 500
@You can eat in class!! Well yeah...every road in Europe for the most part are narrow and cramped with other cars parked and what not. The roads there are built upon medieval horse paths. Here in the US we built things based around the broad spaces we have. So a midsize sedan for you is a compact for us and vice versa
You can easily put 5 on this car
@@doddsalfa range would probably be cut in half
It is really the perfect affordable platform for commuting around town, to work, getting errands done and what not.
There are people who will chime in to say "but what about rapid charge to drive 3000 miles across the country" - and the real question is... if you have $20,000 to spend on a car; why on earth would you do that in an EV instead of flying or driving a regular vehicle.
Because other EVs aren't bad at it and we need to move away from gas?
@@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. what EV under 20,000 does that?
That’s one of the biggest counters for people to get a plug-in EV like a Volt. Best of both worlds and the battery will last you longer
It's strange, but the Leaf is still the 5th most sold electric car in Norway in November 2021. Most car producers introduce their cars in Norway due to the progressive conversion to EVs. Of some reason, the Leaf is still a great buy. Cost-effective, available, and not best in anything. However, good enough for most people. The car makes you think through your need of a car in your every day. It distinguishes between what you require and what you wish you had, but still have plenty of power to accelerate and pass others quickly.
Most Leaf owners in Norway charge at home, and to have more than 6.6 Kw internal charger is not really needed. That would increase the electricity bill considerable. Instead, the car is charged by night in 5-10 hours and ready for you the next day.
In other words, good enough for the most.
I had a 2015 for a couple of years. Almost the perfect local car for errands. Loved it. Upgraded to a new 2019 a few years ago. I've put 30,000 on it and no problems at all, The Leaf is simply the most underrated and most practical EV on the road.
I think you can disable that pro-pilot screen in the settings. On my Altima it’s called “cruise screen transition” I have it disabled.
Oh sweet, good to know 👍
Can't forget that Nissan Leaf is one of the very first mass production EVs out there, way ahead of Tesla. We somewhat owe it to Leaf.
Being a Nissan Leaf owner, this is just plain false. I love my Leaf, but you really cannot say that we owe anything to Nissan regarding EVs... Although happy they made this car, it did not get mass popularity and Tesla fundamentally pushed, forced, and revolutionized the electric vehicle to a hole other level that no other automaker has ever achieved (again, not discrediting the leaf, especially considering its price! ... just something to consider).
My first EV was a 2016 Leaf SL and what immediately sold me was that silly little nub of a shifter. Just bought the '22 SL + loving it so far. I do miss the weird bubble design of the old leaves that everyone hated though.
My university has a ton of Leafs, first and second gen, I love when I get the chance to drive them
Wow I am a 4yr Nissan leaf owner from Colorado, I do read trips and car shows, I tell people at the shows it's great for around town, and I am extreme and do road trips! 40kW batter 150 miles of range! haha!
You have to tell the car you want it on E pedal all the time, I've had dealerships turn it off on me before. So I know about that. and I LOVE IT!
I think it's great there are electric cars like this that are still just cars and not $40,000 with a bunch of new tech
I have a perfect battery condition 2013 Nissan Leaf SL , loaded.... that I bought from an engineer.... I researched a lot and it took me months to find the right car but I bought it for $6.5k .
No more gas ...no more parts... no more nasty ass rip off gas stations...
The whole cost and chore of having a car becomes an afterthought .
It has already paid for half of itself just in gas prices alone... forget about potential mechanical repair costs
my parents surprised me with a 2022 nissan leaf and i love it so much! it fits me so well, it’s electric so i don’t have to buy gas, and it’s just so cool and i wanna learn some more info ab it!
I'm really considering buying one. How many times a day (how long does it take to get a full charge?) I'm new to electric cars but I would love one being a student and to save money :)
@@ebonier2044 it’s takes about 3-4 hours for it to charge fully. the battery is great when you drive locally but you drive on the highway it goes down fast. it’s really affordable and nice!
hi, how is it holding up after 2 years worth of usage. Any complaints?
@@punchcake4832 it’s been good for the most part. i’ve only had a few recent problems with the car battery and not getting enough mileage, but aside from that, no other issues with the car.
I’m really thinking of getting this as my first car, I’ve been saving money for roughly 2/3 years and I live over in Chicago so I won’t be taking long road-trips much at all outside of work, grocery shopping and city exploring. I love the concept of this car so much and I hope it works out for me.
It's already parked outside. Questions to ask yourself- What color? Nismo model? SEE IT!!! BELIEVE IT!!!!!
What a great review! Thank you! Looking to get a second car and we have been looking closely at this one. You are very eloquent and thorough, a natural at reviews, and I appreciate it. Thanks again!
In Canada Tesla got a grant to build supercharger’s but they also had to put in regular chargers both Chademo/CCS there are tons of Chademo/CCS combo chargers in Canada.
seems like the perfect daily
You can get low mileage 2018-2020 Nissan Leafs for around 20k. Maybe if you hustle or negotiate… you can get couple grand off. Definitely worth it more than a 70k Model 3
A comparable model 3 would cost more around 40k no ?
@@anaselfatihi1819 Yea right… Tesla teases you with 30-40k prices. model 3 are north of 50k-70k
Maybe they're more expensive in the states but here you could get a base model with the 1k€ gray color for 40k€
@@anaselfatihi1819 lol check the exchange rates between Euros and Dollars.
@@anaselfatihi1819 That’s basically 50-60k $$
I currently own a 2021 Tesla 3, a 2020 Bolt, and a 2012 Leaf. If you ignored range, of the 3 I prefer the Leaf.
does the battery take a huge hit using freeway? I have to travel around 120 round trip during weekdays. debating getting bolt. leaf. or just go hybrid.
@@oceanbreeze685 the range is greatly reduced at highway speeds. That is true of all cars elec and gas. My 350 mile tesla gets 250 if you drive 80 nonstop.
200 miles is great for long road trips! I never drive daily more than 200 miles even on roadtrips. You go find free 50 kw charger in some big mall and spend hour or two there for lunch and have your battery almost fully charged.
I have zero complaints about my 2018 Leaf SL, even the premium audio system. Just another opinion.
Anything is better than the 2000 S10 I drive currently. Sound system is nice to me. Zippy, small and cute as well. This will be a worthy upgrade.
I really appreciate this thorough review. I just got my license here in Sweden and there is a car pool near my flat, that uses this exact model. Great to see you operating it. Seems like a better fit for me, than the Tesla.
I'm really liking the look of this! The design actually looks normal and stylish.
Crazy to think that the company that makes the GT-R also makes this.
You mentioned no rattles and you're exactly right! Our 2020 is solid and we love it. Our new 2021 M3LR came with a dash rattle and "rub noises" throughout the cabin. Disappointing after paying 50k.
Both of them are crap ngl
Im very curious how this car handles in the snow. we usually dont get too much snow anymore, but when they do it can be a lot.
Co worker just bought one. The issue is how far one can drive between charges. This is a great drive around the city type car. Not a car where you plan to drive hundreds of miles.
It really would be a good cheap EV if it wasn't for that CHAdeMO port. 100kw CCS would make this with the larger battery pack a better offering than the Bolt.
I don't know where you are from but Muxsan can add CCS and also install range extender battery in Europe which together makes 80-100 kw charging possible. My plan is to drive couple years with CHAdeMO and then do the upgrade. I charge mostly at home anyway.
@@smokyislay here in the US it only gets 50kw charging on CHAdeMO which is no longer supported by the major networks
14:00 you can turn off the Pro Pilot screen with a deep dive into the menus. With that disabled the Pro Pilot view is smaller in the display.
I bought one in November 21 because of this video.
I had a leaf for a week as a loaner. I actually LOVED it. I loved the interior, and the lack of piano gloss black awfulness. But... it desperately needs a battery management system. This would allow it to have proper CCS fast charging, and the battery would last far longer, which is the achilles heel of the Leaf. Word is they'll be fixing these things in the next Leaf generation, but the question is WHEN?
I think pretty soon. The new nissan ariya coming out has battery management and liquid cooling
2013 Leaf SL... perfect battery capacity , 75000 miles .... some people just don't do research.... if you use only 240v charge to 100% , the battery degrades VERY slowly .
If you use only 240v charge to 80% the battery will not degrade at all ....
Fuel and parts costs , plus gross filthy , rip off gas stations , become a thing of the past .
@@matthewzizzo4586 Wish I could get the 2nd gen, since the 1st is just super ugly to me. And I have to make 75-90 mile one-way commutes weekly, with no charging time or infrastructure at the destination. A 2nd gen with the larger battery worked well when I had one as a loaner.
Sadly in my area Leaf's do suffer bad battery degradation due to weather/climate. For my part, I expect 95%+ capacity after 15-20yrs, regardless of conditions, as my ICE vehicles do so just fine. I do look forward to an EV and the reduced maintenance, even though I do all of my own work anyway.
@@wildonion99 yes indeed... my father is an engineer and we do all our work on our cars ... but there's no work to do on this car , which is better!
Yeah that's a heck of a trip with no destination charger at your job.... 2nd generation leaf is a great choice 4u ...
I'm going to upgrade to a 200-mile leaf as soon as I can .
If the battery prices start really dropping , I would consider installing a 200-mile battery in this ugly car( as you correctly described it ! ) .
You probably already know this but , any 2013 Leaf or later can have any leaf battery installed in it , totally plug & play ...
In other words , one day I think there's going to be a bunch of leafs that are in good physical condition , but people didn't know how to charge them... so if the battery price is going down ...those two factors + a little bit of work , and you have a nice electric car... that is of course , ugly !
@@wildonion99 ...Also , yes I agree there will be 5% degradation over 10 or 15 years , due to weather .
And I'm cool with that .
Great Review! Informative and helpful. We’ve been leasing one CRV and one FIT for years and very happy but I want to go electric and the leaf might do it. Your video demonstrates just how drivable and practical the car is for around town which as you say is 99% of the time. I’m hoping to be able to test drive the Leaf soon and and see what my trade in and lease options are. I would want to make sure that any charging system in the house or around town would be universal say if we got this Nissan and later get a larger Honda CRV EV. Thanks for demonstrating a car for the average buyer and helping pave the way from gas or even hybrid that I have now to full EV. Thanks Again!
Leaf has always been underrated. i think if it was a crossover it would do better sales wise
It would here in america, people simp for suvs and crossovers here
I love that the infotainment screen is integrated into the dash. Can't stand the stupid tablet style screens that stick up out of the dash of most cars these days.
I don't understand why people talk about using EV's, which are great daily drivers, for road trips when almost no one uses their daily driver as their road trip vehicle. If you have a second car, you're going to have the mom-mobile, which is likely a midsized suv of some kind, and a second vehicle, that if you are trying to budget gas etc, is going to be a car already. I mean, if you are willing to pay 50k or more, you can get a long range EV, but unless you are already relatively wealthy, the pricetag doesnt matter much to you anyway. Or you could get a cheaper gas car/suv and just use that. The most practical use of an EV is commuting. The most practical use of most ICE cars is also commuting.
I really enjoy the fact that it has an “engine” when you pop the hood! It’s the only EV I’ve seen that still looks like a car under the hood.
nissans interiors are always amazing
The Leaf's air-based battery cooling is still a problem, however. A liquid-cooled battery pack would be nice, especially when you reach your 3rd recharge of the day.
That's not a concern for 99% of LEAF drivers. They just don't use the car for long drives with multiple fast charges. The passive air cooled battery is less complex, lighter and more reliable than a liquid cooled one.
Not an issue in daily commutes. The battery only starts overheating once you start doing stupid long road trips and use the DC fast charger consecutively 2~3 times in a row. The newer e+ 62 kWh battery also doesn't heat up nearly as fast as the far more maligned 24, 30 & 40 kWh packs.
je serais plus concerner par l'habitacle qu'il faut éviter de chauffer pour aller plus loin .
That screen when you Turn on the Cruise Control, um options have a menu, that desactivates that, ir wont Change.
Thanks for your great video! 👍Really enjoyed watching it. 😊 Just bought a Nissan Leaf, so now, I'm even more looking forward to driving it.
There is only one big mistage of lovely Leaf 2 - missing battery cooling. If you need to charge more times per day the rapid-gate happens it means the charging will be very very slow. It can happen also during hot weather...
About how long?
the leaf actually looks good.
😍 I ♥️ that it isn’t show offey! It resembles the inside of my present Nissan, which I love. Was hoping they’d make an EV that resembled mine. I didn’t like the look of the hybrid Leaf. This one is just right, beautiful! Thank you for this review!
There was no hybrid Leaf - all 100% electric
This is the future of EVs. A great step toward making electric cars more affordable, and therefore increasing their popularity. The US wants all vehicles to be electric by 2035 and theyre not going to do it with teslas.
Good review. Still waiting for when there is a standard charging port
Thanks for the review. It's interesting to see what's changed, and what is the same as my 2014 Leaf. The interior is very similar, though I would miss the split instrument cluster that I have in mine. I have had no problems at all in my 8 year old Leaf and it is as silent and solid as the day I bought it. I would love to have the added range of the 60kwh model, but my tiny 24kwh has been more than enough for daily city driving. I'm sure the 60kwh would be fine on longer road trips. If you're looking for a city car, there isn't much point in paying for 200 plus miles of range.
How much would you say you've put in maintenance wise in that time?
@@Kellygirl2688 I have spent nothing on maintenance or repair. It is still running on its original brakes. I do have to lubricate the caliper sliders occasionally due to the brakes not being used as much, but that's an easy DIY thing I check each time I switch from winter to summer tires.
Nissan site states 62kWh model has 100kw upgraded charge port.
funny things i noticed between your model vs the one in my family (2022 N-Connecta 62KW france)
-KEY : yours has 4 buttons, "mine" has 3
-STARTUP : different startup, you guys have a beep and a gap for a long time, we only have a single beep once
-STR. WHEEL : looks slightly different but ig it's american version
Awesome explanation !
You said that the infotainment on the Nissan Leaf looks dated. You should look that infotainment on the Prius Prime. It looks like the interface of some mobile operating system of the mid-late 2000s.
Very nice review. Made me feel like going out to buy one.
You said what I've always said about my 2012 Leaf SL: it's a great car that happens to be electric.
I want a future no-hassle EV for everyday use, and I'm thinking about this.
I like how it doesn't look as hideous as the older models
Still looks bad like you said lol
Thanks for the review, how much is this car in the video? It listed $37400 on the description, however when I search for the car on Edmund, they are 42k or even 45k? How do you get that deal if you don’t mind sharing? Thanks
Nissan dealers are cool about cutting down the price
Seems to be a great car - they got a lot of stuff right other manufacturers still are struggling with today, so give the fact that this is an old model about to be phased out...kudos! Also, thanks for the video, well done! What kind of mic are you using if you don't mind me asking?
I also live in Illinois which charges a extra $100 for EV plates $250 . The electricity rates are high hope you get solar panels.
gas is like 5 dollars a gallon in California so are these rates
It's perfect for shopping trips or getting around town, with a maximum range of 226 miles, however, the lower 149-mile range option may not be enough for some. It's the ideal low-cost mode of transportation for moving around town, going to work, running errands, and so on..... but a LOT of competetion from the big guys - Teslas, Audi e-tron, BMW iX, Lucid, Rivian, Chey, etc
When you say you have 220V, can you be more specific in what Amps you are talking about? Power equal volts times amps so at the end of the day power is kings. Thx!!!!!!
Any videos of the Ford Maverick coming soon?
I read an article from EVGO from August 2021 stating Nissan and EVGO will create many new 100kw CHAdeMO stations.
Correction on range. The SV and SL are 215 miles. The base S is 226.
You mean SV plus, SL plus, and S plus. Base S is 151 i think
When you use only the gas pedal to drive around, when it slows down does the brake light go on in the back?
Yes
in colder climates. needing 2 subscriptions one for NissanConnect and 2nd for SiriXm (Nissan uses this for staelllite communication). to access key features like turning the heating cabin when is too cold outside or turning charging on). In spite of this car having wifi capabilities, Nissan decided not to give users direct connectivity from smartphones or at least a button on the key fob. this is unfortunate.
My Leaf is 3.5 years old, I don’t pay for any subscription and I can still turn on the AC remotely with the app.
I have a '15 leaf with a mile range of 60... and you think 200+ mile range is still a daily commuter ? I'd for sure take road trips in a newer leaf! It has to be doable, maybe even easy.
@10:03 dang that Equinox has places to be. Lol.
Hey, great review. But... why no car in your city has a front number plate?
That tire squeal...ooooooooooof
I want to see Nissan Ariya too!
Looks like leather seats in the vehicle, but just today while speccing a Leaf, those didn't seem to be an option. I looked at all the packages and didn't see them, either.
try a naturally aspirated cx5???
I had 2 Leafs first generation. Now I have 2020 Bolt and somehow Bolt is more efficient and has enough head and legroom in the back for someone like me 6’2.
Seats in the bolt are so much more uncomfortable than this though. This rides much nicer n is way more comfy
The $7500 tax credit only applies for your tax liabilities so if your liability is less that is all you get. So if you think you'll get all of tax credit you might get disappointed ☹️
And it won't rollover to next year.
I drove one of these and honestly did not come away impressed. The sound it makes at low speeds is extremely audible in the cabin and sounds really obnoxious to me. The power was good, but handling was pretty meh compared to the Bolt.
Great video! How is the adaptive cruise control in stop and go traffic?
GOOD REVIEW & GREAT CAR.
so it isn't good for a 4 hour road trip? I am looking for one to commute from Houston to Dallas once a week...
so the charger doesnt work at most public stations? other than that looks good .
Why is Nissan still using the Chademo connector in 2021 / 22 when Chademo is on its way out? Any chance of an adapter from CCS1 to Chademo?
Buddy, $38,000 is NOT pretty affordable for the average yet financially savvy person! Take into account that most financial guideless don't suggest going in debt for a car unless it's absolutely necessary to begin with and if you have to they recommend a three year loan term with 20% down at no more than 8% of your gross monthly income... If you're paying cash you should never pay more than 35% of your gross yearly income and ideally less than that if you want to be frugal. Given that, a single person would need to make over $100,000 a year to be able to afford this and by most standards it wouldn't be a smart move even then....
Have read that Leaf NOT having an air-cooled battery is a big drawback as in very hot climates battery life decreases considerable....is this true?
I didn’t know Nissan’s Canto sound was coming to America, very interesting
The more I see it the more I want one.. just have issues with battery health in high temperatures
Just go home and charge it lmao or find a charger
Think that was more of an issue on the older shaped gen1 leaf
@@zrbytegmail where I live it is usually 30°C outside all year round
@@newson1177 I see, I thought you were referring to the leaf's poor battery reliability/health due to only having air cooling. Think they fixed that on the gen2. Your problem is gonna be an issue with most EVs I'm afraid.
If Nissan made the base with the same battery, this would sell like hot cakes
I was able to distinguish an Outlander PHEV in the traffic
Excited to see what Mitsubishi does with that model now that the regular Outlander is a sister to the Nissan Rogue and getting strong reviews. One wonders if Nissan may push the PHEV powertrain into other models. A good idea to get EV-hesitant people to come into the showroom.
What if you live in the city and park your car on the street at night??? How do you charge it ?? Or what if you live in apartment building??
You can’t charge the dam thing!!
Does unlock button on the key fob 3x and held on the third time still wind the windows down ?
Would it hadle floods??..Is it normal to turn with that tire screeching?? Neighboring cars would think you're driftingq
What model of the Leaf did you drive? Looking at the 2022 Nissan Leaf S.
Why don’t you film for the winding road magazine
Many people in Berczy village drives a Nissan leaf.
Very good your videos! I accompany you from Brazil ✌️
I bought Nissan leaf 2016 one month ago but It’s quite loud ,is it normal,I can hear the car engine
The new leafs look a lot better than the initial ones. However it's hard to justify spending nearly 40k on an ev with other options in that price range. I feel like we'd want the new leafs at around 26-28k. But hey it's still a novel technology