If Tim was on a bad team he'd average 33ppg and grab like 18rpg. He was legit that good. But if you have Parker and Gino you can put up 25ppg and 12 rpg and contend every year. Everyone who played against Tim knew how good he was. Chuck went from 23-28 and 14 when he was the primary guy in Philly to 21-25 and 12 when he was in Phoenix because he had a better team. It gives him a chance to relax a bit more on the court, but he could still get you playoff wins when needed, as evidenced by his 44pt 22 reb game against Seattle in the conference finals in 1993.
i saw a video where they put all the stats all the accolades and impact into an ai powered calculator to calculate who was the best player to ever lace up. MJ no.1 and Tim was 2nd.
Anyone who says Tim Duncan had a lot of help fail to realize that outside of Kawhi Leonard, no other player he played with accomplished more without him than with him from a winning perspective. Parker and Ginobli were able to be effective because of Tim and Robinson was able to win because of him. Duncan can honestly be considered top-5 all time.
This "help" narrative was only emphasize today because a hyped player no matter how stacked his team was, cannot consistently win championship. Back then, there is the team and there is the superstar player.
that is kinda unfair for Parker and Ginobili though because by the time that Timmy retired, they were out of their prime. I’d still consider Duncan the #3 best player of all-time though (only behind Bron and MJ, who are on a whole other tier)
@@henry7486 but Tim and his Squad has beaten LeBron 2 out of 3 and 2 of the times they played Bron had the better squad on paper. There’s a lot that goes into it for me, but i get what you’re saying about Tony and Manu
I Love when great basketball players humble themselves to give praise to other great players. Not taking anything away from their play, but they still recognize greatness amongst their peers and throughout the league. Sir Charles is one of the best to ever do it and never get a ring.
Duncan adapted his playstyle throughout his years and it contributed greatly to multiple rings across his career. That's what makes him the greatest power forward in my opinion.
I could see squeezing him into a top 5 if he's someone's favorite player but top 3 is rough as you have others like MJ, Kareem, Magic, Bird, LBJ and others. Who you taking out to replace Duncan with?
@@SojiRo23the problem is lebron had to carry a bigger load for almost all his teams. He was a guard, big man, and leading scorer. Jordan was score and defense and kobe too. So lebron and magic had to play a bigger role
Chuck literally tried to rip the rim off on every dunk...at his size ((6'4" ish) to be able to dominate much tall guys is as impressive as AI to me...much respect Chuckie ✌🏽🤓
Legendary sports broadcaster Dan Patrick been around since the 70s & too many non sports fans/children disrespecting him on this comment thread. Him & Chuck are great friends.
@@wolvesrevenge866 I disagree I don’t think he has a good argument for being the GOAT. There’s an argument but not a good one . He’s top 10 , arguably top 5 but not close to #1. I’m honestly not fully convinced he was better than KG, he had a better career but KG spent most of his prime in Minnesota which is unfortunate . You are right , he’s much better than KD though😂
Tim Duncan was one of the best centers ever. Only reason duncan played some PF was due to bigger Centers. Duncan was a center for majority of his career
Imagine if AD had health. Honestly, it’s the only real thing holding him back (his mental can be argued) He has defense, he has offensive versatility, he has rebounding, he can handle the ball… you just need him out of his street clothes.
Duncan's game was more built as C than PF but he had David Robinson to rely on. Barkley is too humbled as he was undersized his whole career yet still dominated his opponents...
@kevinhousen2791 Nah good buddy easy there. He was amazing don't get me wrong but he ain't ahead of KG and Dirk. If you wanna say hes better statically I can ride with that but those guys accomplished the same in terms of mvp that Chuck did plus they are champions. Imo he's ahead of Malone Rodman Green etc but he ain't ahead of KG and Dirk.
What help? It pisses me off when i hear people say this. Tell me who was Timmys best teamate? Old injured DRob? Manu? Parker? Young Kawhi? Id honestly say it was Kahwi. At that was at the end of his career. Who was his teammates in 99? Vinny del Negro, Avery Johnson, Old DRob, Malik Rose. Im sorry but thats not a lot of help😂
He had a lot of help? He had a 1st round 28th pick Parker who nobody knew who he was then he got 2nd round 57th pick manu. Nobody knew who they were and why spurs picked them. They made each other great.
Bro this narrative that Tim Duncan had “a lot of help” makes no sense to me he never won with a superstar teammate and Tony Parker is overrated as all fuck manu is that guy though
Chuck better than that man lol but Timmy was a monster who didn’t roar. He was out there patient and aggressive 😂. Never forget the 8 blks I was like damn he really out here locking the game up😂
Its so crazy to me what ppl wil do for content. He couldve just went and dumped his buddies ashes wherever, but instead had to do all this extra shit to post it online. Social media likes are the new heroin. And these ppl will do anything for it
Dan Patrick is the GOAT & is literally responsible for the way you consume sports today. Considering you have NO CLUE who Dan Patrick is... You're holding the L. Chuck & Dan Patrick are fantastic friends. Dan Patrick literally INVENTED ESPN since the 1970s & went on to become his own brand. During the height of sports coverage in the 90s , he Stuart Scott, Kenny Mayne, Keith Olberman, Scott Van Pelt (when he was a bench player back then) & Chris Berman made it literally MUST WATCH TV. All the phrases you say today "Boomshakalaka, cool as the other side of the pillow, Mama there go that man again." Came from them. You holding this L son.
If I had the option to choose Dirk or Tim Duncan to build a team around I’d pick Dirk. Give me a 7 footer who can score in the post, score inside, shoot the mid range and shoot the 3.
Yea but he couldn’t play defense, it’s why he was a liability for his team & a big reason why the Mavs couldn’t make deep playoff runs in his prime, it took getting Tyson Chandler for them to get a defense & get a championship. Tim didn’t have a 3 point game like Dirk but he still had mid range & a better post game & had defense too. That’s what makes him more of a winner than Dirk. It’s about winning, not pretty offense.
You’d be fired immediately by the front office, basketball isn’t a lopsided game. Tim impacted the game far more than dirk because he was an elite defender that was constantly giving you 21 & 11 and he was a better passer than dirk. If teams found a way to disrupt dirk’s scoring, he didn’t bring anything else to the table at an elite level
@@pleasedontdothis.9878 But Tim Duncan also had the luxury of playing with a hall of fame coach, two ball of famers and very good role players his entire career. Dirk Nowitzki won a championship with Jason Terry being his second option with arguable the most difficult roads to winning it all in NBA history. Imagine if you gave Dirk some hall of famers for the vast majority of his career. He probably would’ve had more championships.
@@YvngGoat_ Tim Duncan still has the higher individual efficiency stats, win shares & even almost got a quintuple double. As an individual player, the stats still show he’s leagues above Dirk.
@@pleasedontdothis.9878 And that’s also why you bring pieces in that can help compliment a players weakness. For example, Tim Duncan wasn’t a 3 point shooter and majority of his scoring came from the block. If you had 4 non shooters on the court when he had the ball in the post, teams would instantly send double teams cause they know the other players can’t shoot. So because TD can’t shoot 3’s you bring in shooters to help give him more space to operate.
The analogy doesn't make sense. He talks about studio gangsters and he gives an analogy saying he was a much better player in Philly. So is he saying he was a studio gangster in Philly but was a better player?
Respect for Barkley for telling the truth
That’s what he really is And people don’t like him
Yea
Vince Carter was one had a bad team an averaged like 25 but Vince is a average player
It's so obvious. So just tell the truth.
@@Ontiming2023he's above average... I could prolly compare his career to Zach Lavine's
The interviewer was meat riding Chuck and still got rejected💀
Low key tryin to set him up 😂
That’s the media trying to stir some shit up
is the podcaster desperate for views, why are they like that trying to bait Barkley.
Lol you dont know who that is eh... one of the most famous radio personalities
Chuck said get off my wood chuck guy 😂😂
Chuck was getting glazed whole interview and still kept it low-key, I respect it
Cause the interviewer was trying to set him up to get more views
Dan Patrick does this to make a star praise someone he loves, worked with Jason Kidd and Stockton too.
W take from Barkley 🔥🔥🔥
If Tim was on a bad team he'd average 33ppg and grab like 18rpg. He was legit that good. But if you have Parker and Gino you can put up 25ppg and 12 rpg and contend every year. Everyone who played against Tim knew how good he was. Chuck went from 23-28 and 14 when he was the primary guy in Philly to 21-25 and 12 when he was in Phoenix because he had a better team. It gives him a chance to relax a bit more on the court, but he could still get you playoff wins when needed, as evidenced by his 44pt 22 reb game against Seattle in the conference finals in 1993.
Still one of the greatest playoff games ever.
That’s right
Shoot he ave that some playoff series in his prime. People just always look to the regular season
i saw a video where they put all the stats all the accolades and impact into an ai powered calculator to calculate who was the best player to ever lace up. MJ no.1 and Tim was 2nd.
That's pretty damn close to his per 100 numbers in his prime actually
Timmy played his position the best anyone could play it.
"When you'll good at something you'll tell everyone, when you'll great at something they'll tell you!"
- Walter Payton
Any man who stands on the truth is a real man... For Charles Barkley to go out of his way to explain the truth that's nothing but love and respect
That's that Barkley wisdom at play--caring honesty makes you smooth.
Anyone who says Tim Duncan had a lot of help fail to realize that outside of Kawhi Leonard, no other player he played with accomplished more without him than with him from a winning perspective. Parker and Ginobli were able to be effective because of Tim and Robinson was able to win because of him. Duncan can honestly be considered top-5 all time.
This "help" narrative was only emphasize today because a hyped player no matter how stacked his team was, cannot consistently win championship. Back then, there is the team and there is the superstar player.
that is kinda unfair for Parker and Ginobili though because by the time that Timmy retired, they were out of their prime. I’d still consider Duncan the #3 best player of all-time though (only behind Bron and MJ, who are on a whole other tier)
@@henry7486 but Tim and his Squad has beaten LeBron 2 out of 3 and 2 of the times they played Bron had the better squad on paper. There’s a lot that goes into it for me, but i get what you’re saying about Tony and Manu
They barely played without him but if you add in the Olympics and overseas play they definitely won without him
Barkley is honest and a great mind, hard to get both on TV.
Tim Duncan: "Dr. Fundamentals". Consistent.played both ends of the court well and was a menace.
Bradley Beal great example
Man…Duncan was a very smart player….
I Love when great basketball players humble themselves to give praise to other great players. Not taking anything away from their play, but they still recognize greatness amongst their peers and throughout the league.
Sir Charles is one of the best to ever do it and never get a ring.
When respect leads to more respect
Duncan adapted his playstyle throughout his years and it contributed greatly to multiple rings across his career. That's what makes him the greatest power forward in my opinion.
I’ve got Timmy in my top 3. He’s super underrated. And he beat Bron twice.
I could see squeezing him into a top 5 if he's someone's favorite player but top 3 is rough as you have others like MJ, Kareem, Magic, Bird, LBJ and others. Who you taking out to replace Duncan with?
@@Painmaster212 1. Mike 2. Kobe 3. Duncan 4. Bron 5. Magic
@@SojiRo23the problem is lebron had to carry a bigger load for almost all his teams. He was a guard, big man, and leading scorer. Jordan was score and defense and kobe too. So lebron and magic had to play a bigger role
He respect his truth
Chuck literally tried to rip the rim off on every dunk...at his size ((6'4" ish) to be able to dominate much tall guys is as impressive as AI to me...much respect Chuckie ✌🏽🤓
Charles is anywhere from 6'4 to 6'7. He stood next to Draymond and looks an inch shorter but he could've shrunk from age.
Legendary sports broadcaster Dan Patrick been around since the 70s & too many non sports fans/children disrespecting him on this comment thread. Him & Chuck are great friends.
Mr fundamental was a beast.
Duncan is a leader
I loved Charles as a Sixer
Nice
Words!!💐💐💐💐💐💫
Cough damian Lillard 😂😂😂 and hes actually a studio gangster
All truth from chuck
Chuck told the truth, again
Forget “Power Forward”, he is the GOAT
You’ve lost your mind 😂
@@Tiy51tim has a good argument though, at least it's not freaks saying KD is the goat
@@wolvesrevenge866 I disagree I don’t think he has a good argument for being the GOAT. There’s an argument but not a good one . He’s top 10 , arguably top 5 but not close to #1. I’m honestly not fully convinced he was better than KG, he had a better career but KG spent most of his prime in Minnesota which is unfortunate . You are right , he’s much better than KD though😂
He’s number 5
Tim Duncan was one of the best centers ever. Only reason duncan played some PF was due to bigger Centers. Duncan was a center for majority of his career
Chuck is speaking 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Give me example… LeBron James, in his first time in Cleveland
Imagine if AD had Duncan’s offensive bag
Imagine if AD had health.
Honestly, it’s the only real thing holding him back (his mental can be argued)
He has defense, he has offensive versatility, he has rebounding, he can handle the ball… you just need him out of his street clothes.
AD has a better offensive bag than Duncan
@@kookurikapoohAmen. Anthony Day to DAYvis has really killed his prime.
Sir Humble
Timmy is a much better defender.
That mvp year was him at his best. He had an amazing finals.
I'd take Sir Charles over any other PF ANY DAY, ALL DAY.
My respect to Barkley:📈
Barkley, tells it like he sees it. Never a
Dull moment.
Tim Duncan legit Top 7 players of all time ..Charles probably Top 20
lol Charles ain’t snitching 😂😂
No Shame in admitting a 7 footer is a better post up player at 6'4
He describe MJ perfectly.
Duncan's game was more built as C than PF but he had David Robinson to rely on. Barkley is too humbled as he was undersized his whole career yet still dominated his opponents...
Dirk left the chat
Play stupid games
Win stupid prizes 🏆
Tim Duncan! 🏀⛹️
Studio gangsters Chuck OG fr 😂
Im NOT DOIN that❤
The more shots you make the more better chance to score much more
Barkley is 😊
🐐🇨🇱🤠☝️🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
Example Kevin love in Minnesota.
What help? Robinson was 37 yrs old when Spurs drafted Duncan. Manu, Tony and Kawhi develop their game.
Barkely right behind Duncan KG and Dirk. Top 5 pf without a doubt.
Barkley is the 2nd best PF. Only Duncan was better. Prime Barkley was the 2nd best player in the NBA behind only Jordan at one point in his career.
Dennis Rodman needs to be on the top 5 power forward list
@kevinhousen2791 Nah good buddy easy there. He was amazing don't get me wrong but he ain't ahead of KG and Dirk. If you wanna say hes better statically I can ride with that but those guys accomplished the same in terms of mvp that Chuck did plus they are champions. Imo he's ahead of Malone Rodman Green etc but he ain't ahead of KG and Dirk.
💯
“I’m not doin that” he dodged that Setup but hat is true some of these MFs get the ball way to much
What help? It pisses me off when i hear people say this. Tell me who was Timmys best teamate? Old injured DRob? Manu? Parker? Young Kawhi? Id honestly say it was Kahwi. At that was at the end of his career. Who was his teammates in 99? Vinny del Negro, Avery Johnson, Old DRob, Malik Rose. Im sorry but thats not a lot of help😂
And Chuck played with Dr J Moses Hakeem Clyde Kevin Johnson I don't get the help part either buddy.
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He had a lot of help? He had a 1st round 28th pick Parker who nobody knew who he was then he got 2nd round 57th pick manu. Nobody knew who they were and why spurs picked them. They made each other great.
Bro people act like manu me parker were the best in that era lol
Bro this narrative that Tim Duncan had “a lot of help” makes no sense to me he never won with a superstar teammate and Tony Parker is overrated as all fuck manu is that guy though
Damn I didn’t know Barkley had a filter now younger self would have gave the example
You say Tim Duncan have a lot of help he really was the catalyst to that team only when I took on a Mari stoudemire was he shakie
Lebron is the best example for Charles Barkley
He's probably right, yet I would take Sir over Tim
Don't forget Kevin McHale James Worthy Scotty Pittman Jack sigma
Why was bruh pressing Timmy like he like that all that man did was win and play great stats speak for him and then rings and other accolades
I'm not a Spurs fan, but I have no qualms with that. Malone, Nowitzki, Barkley, Garnett, Elvin Hayes among the group just below.
Yea like bron on that 17-18 Cavs
I always thought of barkley as kind of a doofus kinda guy. That was eloquent as fuck
Career yes but I'm still taking 1990 Barkley over any version of Tim Duncan.
Chuck better than that man lol but Timmy was a monster who didn’t roar. He was out there patient and aggressive 😂. Never forget the 8 blks I was like damn he really out here locking the game up😂
barkely is a G, timmy is the goat F
Its easier to be the best player on a bad team
For example, Kevin love. But when Brons name comes up Kevin love turns into one of the best to ever do it 😂
No one knows what you're squawking about trolll
Ngl Chuck just making it better for Tim d because Chuck was a bad MF he took his average team to the finals
He come after shaq
Bird did to
Why he keep showing his lower teeth? 😆
You wanna know what is unrealistic in this vid?
Timmy D celebrating
And Dirk Diggler is #2
Its so crazy to me what ppl wil do for content. He couldve just went and dumped his buddies ashes wherever, but instead had to do all this extra shit to post it online. Social media likes are the new heroin. And these ppl will do anything for it
If tim duncan was a mean, killer instinct type of guy like MJ and Kobe he might have been the greatest without any discussion
Example; tmac. Amazing shooter with a bad teammate.
Bron played Greatest PF ever, best shootee ever curry/bavkcourt klay...boston big 3...KD GSW ...bron played better comp
Barkley was the greatest power forward of all time
Lebron beat the greatest PF and PG must count for something
Tim beat him twice
W Chuck, L interviewer.
Dan Patrick is the GOAT & is literally responsible for the way you consume sports today. Considering you have NO CLUE who Dan Patrick is... You're holding the L.
Chuck & Dan Patrick are fantastic friends. Dan Patrick literally INVENTED ESPN since the 1970s & went on to become his own brand. During the height of sports coverage in the 90s , he Stuart Scott, Kenny Mayne, Keith Olberman, Scott Van Pelt (when he was a bench player back then) & Chris Berman made it literally MUST WATCH TV.
All the phrases you say today "Boomshakalaka, cool as the other side of the pillow, Mama there go that man again." Came from them.
You holding this L son.
That's that bs
Charles isn't better than Malone!!! And Duncan is closer to being a center than a PF!
If I had the option to choose Dirk or Tim Duncan to build a team around I’d pick Dirk. Give me a 7 footer who can score in the post, score inside, shoot the mid range and shoot the 3.
Yea but he couldn’t play defense, it’s why he was a liability for his team & a big reason why the Mavs couldn’t make deep playoff runs in his prime, it took getting Tyson Chandler for them to get a defense & get a championship.
Tim didn’t have a 3 point game like Dirk but he still had mid range & a better post game & had defense too. That’s what makes him more of a winner than Dirk. It’s about winning, not pretty offense.
You’d be fired immediately by the front office, basketball isn’t a lopsided game. Tim impacted the game far more than dirk because he was an elite defender that was constantly giving you 21 & 11 and he was a better passer than dirk. If teams found a way to disrupt dirk’s scoring, he didn’t bring anything else to the table at an elite level
@@pleasedontdothis.9878 But Tim Duncan also had the luxury of playing with a hall of fame coach, two ball of famers and very good role players his entire career. Dirk Nowitzki won a championship with Jason Terry being his second option with arguable the most difficult roads to winning it all in NBA history. Imagine if you gave Dirk some hall of famers for the vast majority of his career. He probably would’ve had more championships.
@@YvngGoat_ Tim Duncan still has the higher individual efficiency stats, win shares & even almost got a quintuple double. As an individual player, the stats still show he’s leagues above Dirk.
@@pleasedontdothis.9878 And that’s also why you bring pieces in that can help compliment a players weakness. For example, Tim Duncan wasn’t a 3 point shooter and majority of his scoring came from the block. If you had 4 non shooters on the court when he had the ball in the post, teams would instantly send double teams cause they know the other players can’t shoot. So because TD can’t shoot 3’s you bring in shooters to help give him more space to operate.
Michael Jordan is the top studio gangsta lol... that's what Chuck wanted to say
I don't think so, Jordan had a good team with him, 95-96 is considered the best NBA team ever, maybe in the first years with the bulls.
Interviewer said Timmy had a lot of help.
That’s because Timmy took pay cuts so his team was always deep
Ever heard of Carl Malone
Top 6 Power Forwards of all time:
1. Tim Duncan.
2. Karl Malone.
3. Giannis.
4. Kevin Garnett.
5. Charles Barkley.
6. Dirk Nowitzki.
1. Duncan
2. Elvin Hayes, look up his career
3. Malone
4. Barkley
5. Garnett
6. Petit
7. Giannis
8. Nowitzki
9. Kevin McHale
10. Gasol
@@claudebeaden3242 You do not have Chris Webber in your top 10?
Duncan had more help this dude knows nothing. 1999
The analogy doesn't make sense. He talks about studio gangsters and he gives an analogy saying he was a much better player in Philly. So is he saying he was a studio gangster in Philly but was a better player?
Give me an example. Russell Westbrook 👇
russ always be a gangsta
He was better as a player Tim was just better when it came to winning