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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- This video contains massive spoilers for the Persona series. And opinions. Decided we'd take the final arcs of every Persona game and put them on the scale.
Video would not have been possible without Buffmaister who's uploaded all the scenes from most Persona games: / buffmaister
Persona 3 funny: • Asshole Igor mod ~ Per...
0:00 Intro
0:53 #6
3:11 #5
6:21 #4
7:10 #3
10:07 #2
13:51 #1 - เกม
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When they said their lines while makoto fights nyx and lotus juice raps it was the most badass thing. I cheered when shinji said “let’s do this”
my man
I do agree that the “reset button” is in most cases not a good way of writing but in the case of Persona 2 it works so well for multiple reasons. Not only because we got EP a year later but for a short time (and only for a short time) like someone else already explained it showed that the main villain was successful this time around and showed that there friendship could not solve all problems and they even had to sacrifice it so that everyone could live normal life’s again
As someone who's played both persona 2 games, I'd say you can't really rank one without the other being included as well. Sure the whole reset thing feels like a cop out of you only look at it through IS but once you go through EP it ends up being so much better
Also the ending of IS isn’t bad on its own, even if you played back in 1999 you would have heard a sequel was coming right after but regardless you feeling defeated and toyed around is the whole purpose of the ending
Nyarlototept laughs at the party because they’re naive and think friendship will resolve anything and then they lose everything and they need to let go of that friendship forever
In a way the villain won and then the result is frankly pretty obvious since it’s already established the rumors are Almighty so they would use it to reverse the world. In a way it’s a trade-off of the player giving up on his progression to give a chance to the characters to live an alternative life apart from their loved ones, it’s so bittersweet and also there are a tons of good things different from the beginning of the game but the sorrow of the lost is still there.
You say that; As if expecting the majority of the fanbase nowadays knowing IS/EP even exist. Let alone the ending of one leads to the second part in which that reset was essentially going to break thanks to certain events that transpired.
@@edwardsuou Fr, what I like about it is the fact that its the game that challenges the whole idea that friendship beats all the most compared to the other games in the series. Even in EP there's still a hint of melancholy considering the fact that Maya now bears the weight of knowing but not being able to converse to Tatsuya about it.
agree, haven't played EP because can't find playable translated version to play on emu for me but seeing recent brief of what happen to tatsuya, it's a really good plot twist and make the title meaningful because you will misunderstood the meaning by just playing 1 game. it also make it bit darker than persona 3 to me as causality are most likely still happen
@@thanatosxmesiah p2ep is fully translated for the psp now. Go on play it
Wait, a Persona video with Fire Emblem music? You're allowed to do that? I thought TH-camrs were generally obligated to use Persona music in everything.
one thing in persona 3 ending that hit me real hard, harder than anything, is the conversation you had with akinari's mother..it's so bittersweet and beautiful
I honestly really disagree with ranking IS separate, persona 2 is very clearly made to be a duology played back to back, and genuinely the end of IS is one of my favorite moments in the series, you lose, here is your last resort, swallow that bitter pill.
Spoilers down below
Persona 2 IS ending: Bad guy wins which results in world being destroyed and so heroes along with philimon power recreate a new timeline in which they never met/lose connections.
Persona 2 EP ending: Bad guy is stopped but the timeline is threatened due to protag being a paradox that cannot exist in their world. So protag essentially leaves to go back to his current timeline which the world was destroyed.
Yeah Persona 4’s ending made me cry even though it’s so simple, it works well!
same! no matter how many times i play it, that ending was so wholesome 😌 and that last line of Teddie's almost makes up for the bear puns..almost
My personal favorite is Persona 3s. Basic opinion, sure, but there is a reason why it’s so popular of an opinion to have.
In the case of Persona 4 Golden’s epilogue seemingly only being there for “flair,” I’d direct you to HidingInPrivate’s incredible Persona 4 analysis series, specifically the one about the use of color in the game (you should probably just watch the whole thing, though; to say it’s well-made and comprehensive would be the understatement of the year).
HidingInPrivate's analysis series honestly deserves more praise than I can accurately put into words, but it feels almost surreal to see just how well written the social links and character arcs were, now that they can be taken in isolation, rather than all happening at different times as in the game.
No shade on the game at all on this one, I just found it a lot easier to digest when seeing each mini arc, without having to keep track of everything else going on, on top of that.
As someone who is yet to go back to P3FES, I have to wonder, aside from new features and story content, is the original P3 something that can still stand on its own, or is it better to go through P3FES instead?
I don't want to ask if it's still worth playing, as if it isn't already an amazing game, but I wonder if there are any gameplay features or story elements in the original that might not have made it into P3FES.
Persona 4 had a child, classmates and a father figure detective. All in one XD
Incredible harmony, time well spent :) 🙂
Persona 5’s vanilla final arc: the worst one
Persona 5 royal’s final arc: the best one
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Seriously,I think that and Futaba arc are my favorites since they don’t have an evil owner of the palaces
@@snax7760 I wouldn't call Maruki evil. More so misguided.
@@iantophernicus6042 yeah that’s what I said,his views are distorted but he’s not evil
I wouldn’t really say vanilla was the worst buy Royal is better
Well, Persona 4 is my favorite in the series, but Persona 3's ending cannot be beat, I actually shed a tear at the credits you know how hard it is for me to cry about something even if im sad
as always this guy makes the best videos
I fully agree with number one, It made me cry so much. I never really had any friends except for maybe one but I haven't talked to him in forever. So playing though this game I really loved the characters they really felt like my friends and when it ended it really affected me, even now it's been a year and I still sometimes shed a tear thinking about the game
Persona 3 has by and far the most powerful ending of any Persona game.
If hearing Kimi no Kioku play as Makoto dies doesn't make you cry, you don't have a heart
Comment for the algorythm since ive only played one game on the list. I'm just surprised this hasn't been picked up more because the I have been recommended nothing but STM videos (from like D tier creators) since p5r came out on PC/switch.
I like royal’s ending more just because I think it wrapped up Maruki very well.
He didn’t really talked about that, the epilogue to the phantom thieves in Royal is stellar all wrapped around masterfully in that scene where they discuss what they will be doing next. The last whole animated cutscene is just not that important, it’s just a calm chilly and realistic farewell because everything was already said.
Also the post credit scene is absolutely a way for Atlus to have Akechi’s fans happy however there’s no reason to think Akechi survived and a thousand to think he died so if you ask me Joker was just daydreaming, I mean the next scene he sees himself in his Phantom thief attire in that same window.
Rant warning:
P3 has the best ending imo. It is the only ending in the series that made me cry like a child. P4's ending doesn't make me feel anything and the P5 ending is just boring as sin. Not to mention the movies did what they were trying to do but executed them way better. When it comes to the media I like I'm a fan of stories that are dark as shit. Not that I'm saying I can't enjoy stories that are upbeat and happy but when you see Makoto Yuki who started out as apathetic as one could be progressing towards finding his purpose in life while having 3 people die right in front of him at his age is amazing. Then when he meets Aigis he was finding his purpose in life that in turn help Aigis shed that robotic shell and become more human which grew to respect one another then blossomed into love. Its cliché as fuck but the way P3 did is was the best way you could do it. Then the way the answer tackled the death of Makoto through Yukari wanting nothing more than to see him again even if it was only a second but repressing it to the point where she snaps at Aigis who inherited Makoto's wildcards ability but didn't have the nerve to show up to his funeral is believable and very real. Whereas Aigis has never dealt with grief on the level of the death of a loved one made her turn apathetic to the point where she didn't even want to be human anymore and become a mere machine is also pretty alright.
I just spent 2 hours trying to find the song you used at 9:12 Tales Of Xillia 2... my single favorite rpg. I can't believe you used it. So many people don't know of it. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Edit: it's illumated by sunlight originally from Xillia 1.
I played each Persona games except for 1 . While P5R gave me the best experience , P4 definitely had best gang and ending no contest.
While I give praise for p5 having the best gameplay experience. I feel like it lacks in a lot of areas. Also go play 1. It’s really good
@@ARAnime, 4 and 5 all have their issues
While I personally consider a lot of P3 to be kinda disappointing, I love the ending a ton. Personally hit home for me due to a lot of my own fears while executing it incredibly well.
Both 4 and IS/EP’s endings are a close second for me. I like how simple 4’s is especially since it’s another more personal one. P2’s only really work together and I think IS’s a bit too extreme and depressing despite the themes, but EP’s being a bit simpler helps balance it out, and both definitely got me teary-eyed.
Though, I especially like how Personas 3 and 4 try to get a bit more personal for people, since that seems to be a common theme from what I’ve seen. Tends to be a bit more impactful since it’s more realistic and relatable. If and when Persona 6 releases, I hope they take a similar route.
I think Innocent sins ending is fine. A reset ending can work as long as it has a point. It serves as a good motive for Tatsuya looking into eternal punishment. Both games cant be looked seperately, they are 2 halves of a whole.
I'm surprised you don't have more subs lol. You deserve it.
My mind has drawn a blank on the name of the bgm that plays at 7:53 and I think I'm about to lose my mind
I think it’s a misconception that the real world maki is in love with Noaya - the protagonist but I think the manga does hit more in this ending since we see him being more depressed about losing the ideal maki he actually loved and not the real one which he was just friends with
I loved P5 Royal ending the best because it resonated with me on such a deep level. I was extremely passive and depressed in life, wishing someone could just give me what would make me happy like a job, a gf, friends, etc. Therapy these last few years made me realized that I have to work towards the things if I want to be happy. No magical being in the sky (or counselor in a white suit hehe) is just going to give it to me so seeing all the phantom thieves realized the same thing and each go their separate ways to be happy was such a realistic bittersweet ending than P5 vanilla ending or P4 ending.
Haven’t played p3p yet but I love the crap out of fes. I agree it needs ported just as much
I completely disagree about P5's ending.
A large part of the game is about how the Phantom Thieves have the power to change society for the better by using the Metaverse to steal hearts. Unfortunately, there's a risk of them misusing the power, as seen in the deal with Yaldabaoth, as well as the implication that they'd lost sight of their original goals as of the Okumura arc(which isn't handled all that well, but that's another choice). There's also the question of whether the Phantom Thieves' efforts amount to anything- see how Shido still gets elected and the people don't turn on him after learning his crimes.
You can see the Confidants as a microcosm for the game as a whole. Changing the hearts of your Confidants' enemies makes the Confidants' lives easier, but they still have to handle their own problems. For example, after you change the Takases' hearts and stop them from extorting Kawakami, she then gets back into teaching with a renewed sense of purpose. In fact, Ryuji decides not to steal Yamauchi's heart, but let the track team deal with them.
Basically, the final arc is about trusting people to make the right choices and solve their problems without the Metaverse's help. The Confidants helping get you out of juvie isn't redundant; it's showing how each of them has at least a few connections and/or skills to help you out. It's rather significant that Mishima, who used his status as manager of the Phan-Site to stoke his ego, hits the street to gather signatures.
Royal's final arc is similar. Do you accept a stagnant reality where everyone's wishes are granted or work toward making your dreams a reality in the real world?
In short, in order to fully appreciate P5's final arc, you need to understand how it ties into the game's themes.
U pretty much hit the nail over the head of any I love P5 endings so much over all the rest!! Especially Royal. It resonated with me so much because for years I was like Maruki who rather live in a dream world and wait till everything comes to me be happy but recently with therapy I realized I have to be the one to make myself happy and no one is gonna come to magically make my life better. I have to work towards it. I freaking LOVE how each member of the phantom thieves realize this too and make the difficult choice to go their separate ways to follow their dreams. Its one of the most realistic, bittersweet, yet hopeful endings I ever got from a game
You're looking too deep into it mate , probably more than atlus did
2:56 what's the soundtrack playing in the background called?
I played FES instead of portable but I have to say 3 is my favorite as I believe it fits it’s theme better of death so we’ll
Common Voyan W
idk I liked the answer's story. It made sure to hammer in the fact "MINATO CAN'T BE ALIVE OR WE"RE ALL DEAD"
The tacked-on endings of The Answer, Golden, and Royal always fuck up the pace too much IMO - vanilla versions feel much smoother for saying goodbye to all your friends at the end. At least FES is nice enough to isolate all the new story content to a separate option on the main menu.
Golden doesn’t really change anything and vanilla feels more like teases future stuff then royal did ironically
While I have yet to finish a Persona game yet, being in the middle of maxing out all personas for the compendium in Golden and Royal, I have to ask. If you engage with the new characters as little as possible and aim for the original ending, is it better to play the re-releases, or to go with the originals from the start? As hard as it is to find a PS2 and a copy of the original P3 and P4, I'm interested in finding out if there were any gameplay features/story elements that were present in the originals but didn't make it to the re-releases.
Also I'm still salty that I wasn't fast enough to get Eternal Punishment before the Australian PSN removed the game from the store. It was probs something to do with our archaic rating system.
@@iantophernicus6042 re-release can still do the OG ending exaclty how you put it by not interacting with the new characters. there also isn't anything cut out from the original either only thing really changed is the gameplay having slight tweaks here and there (mostly good improvements). the new story content in the re-releases isn't as big as you might think like in golden it doesn't drastically changes the plot or even ending it just adds more scenes and royal while it does have a different ending the new arc is too good to not ignore it
Still waiting on that Persona Boss Music list so you can put Throw Away Your Mask at #1!
I honestly cried in p4 ending
I think Persona 5 has the best journey out of all the games, but the ending is so lackluster. Royal in particular feels super rushed with that last month and palace. They could have explored the characters way deeper with the new reality versus old but its solved in like 10-20 minutes with each member and none of them decide against it. 4 wrapped everything up perfectly and in a super satisfying way. I hope if I ever see persona 6, they give a complete ending like 4/Golden did.
Ummmm,how else were you expecting them to end vanilla P5?
Shido was taken down thanks to joker and the phantom thieves.
His incarnation was needed due to him providing testimony to make sure shido stays in prison and the confidants helping joker escape from incarnation was to tie-in to the game's themes of standing up to injustice and inspire other people to do so.
Joker and the phantom thieves inspired society and the confidants to do so and it was their turn to do the same for him and that makes the ending suck?
I'm sorry but I just don't agree with that.
Although I definitely agree with all the others especially your thoughts on innocent sin's ending.
I love the game but as you said,the reset button is NEVER the right option to end your game,although at the same,I feel that this might have been intentional which is why eternal punishment's ending works so well but that's my 2 cents on the matter.
Well, compared to the other Persona endings, P5's indeed the worst, or should I say least good.
@@ZSleepingDragonZ
Least good? - eh maybe
Terrible? - No way in hell
If I wasn't on anti depressants I would have cried during persona 3 through 5 endings
I like more the persona 3 ending that persona 4, but they are very close as the best one so for me this is ok
persona 4 best ending best atmosphere
persona 3 saddest game
persona 1 the game of all time school days is fire tho
persona 5 looking cool joker ending
persona 2 jojos bizzaare adventure part 2
Agree with p5, it has probably the best start of all persona games but also by far the worst ending.
The development hell the game was in for years really shows there
Nothing but facts.
As someone who played P5 years back and only now finished P5 R recently, I have to agree with its low placement. Royal's addition destroys any feeling the original ending has to offer by adding a whole month in between of not really satisfying stuff and toning down the sacrifice. Honestly. among the modern Persona, I do agree 4 does it best because the final thing, you, as the player do, removing your glasses, is a great thematic endpoint to the story as a whole. P5 used to have that before P5R. Doing the final goodbyes before the final reveal is a great trick too on the player who just wants to get everything over with thinking.
P5, and Royal's especially, was super eh. You talk to people, you get a scene which most would skip forward in the cafe. Done. It does nothing for the actual narrative or themes of the game. At least in P3, saying the good byes all sorta leads up to that final scene in the rooftop. They're all to help build up to that final moment. As the first to use this format, the idea feels very deliberate. P5's kinda feels like its just going through the motions.
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12:46 nice
awesome video! I agree that Persona 5's ending left a sour taste in my mouth after beating it
Which one as royal is so drastically different then vanilla
I’ll watch this after I sink the rest of my life into playing p5
Same,already about to finish the 4th palace
I agree. Akechi is dead, will always be dead, and what Royal did basically should Solidify that. He is dead. no question.
P5’s ending felt kinda just there. Like: hey! you did great! so uh this game’s over now, yeah you can just kinda skip everything and it will all kinda make sense . . .
Love the end cut scene with the gang in the car, but other than that it felt kinda forced.
6:53 he has Roblox face 😏
The ending of Persona 5 was to tease Persona 5 strikers
Persona 5 is probably the most misunderstood Persona game
what's wrong with the persona 5 ending?
1:38 WTF was That 😩
(10:11) Persona 3 Portable is in the same level to the original game but the only difference is the Protagonist!🤷♀ Is a girl!
It seems that... Akihiko have lost another sister!😂But... Who cares about her! She saved Shinjiro in her world! Soo... Akihiko can be gay with Shinji!🙃
Honestly I didn't think you went hard enough against Royal's ending. Imagine living with debilitating chronic pain for your entire life, and then suddenly one day the pain is gone, but then a month later it comes back because some fucking teenagers decided they were gonna live authentically. The game about fighting back against tyranny ends with the party deciding for the world that they know best, that the entire world should be consigned to its miserable existence. Vanilla P5 already shot its rebellion narrative it the back of the head after the Kamoshida chapter (Codex Entry said it best "[waifu] merchandising would be pretty hard to square with a game that would inevitably get to ask the question 'how come capitalism seems to give power to cruel bastard men so often?'") but Royal pissed on its grave. The game (after Kamoshida) can't possibly conceive of a problem that isn't the result of bad individual actors, not broader institutional failings.
Except people are stripped of free will and forced down paths that Maruki lay down and even these paths don’t lead to maximum happiness.
Take the Yoshizawa in the ideal world with maximum happiness the family should get back both daughters but because he cares more about Sumire her wish of being Kasumi is fulfilled well Sumire is dead. The family will never get to see the two girls or even properly greave instead they are forced to move on.
This is the flaw of Maruki reality he is human and will favor some over the others well they cannot choose what they want or even attempt to shape their life. Another example is Yusuke friend who wanted to be an artist but failed and found another path in life that he also enjoyed except in Maruki world he now an artist with his other life being erased.
@@JoseSanchez-fk9dg You're not addressing my point. Sumire faced the trauma of her sister's death. Fantastic. But what social ill is that emblematic of? My point is that Persona 5 in general and Royal in particular does not understand that there are problems outside the capacity of any one individual to cause or resolve. Take world hunger. In reality, it is a complex issue which will require decades.if not centuries of worldwide dedicated effort to shift the food economy from a system that prioritizes profit over actually feeding the most amount of people. Maruki was essentially given a magic button to relieve the pain of all those starving children. People who would otherwise have to shape their entire lives around finding the next crumb of bread to scoop up are now free to live how they choose in Maruki's world. And the Phantom Thieves force them to live in a life they did not choose for the sake of their own high minded ideals. Game about fighting against tyranny.
@@technicallythecenteroftheu1349 The thing with Maruki's world is that he is forcing everyone into the matrix basically. where they have no free will and everything is decided for them based on what Maruki knows about what they wanted in the past plus what Maruki himself decides will be better for them. Maybe Maruki's world is in fact better for people whose lives could only improve, but that also robs people of any hardship and freedom to change anything themselves because everything is already decided for them without the ability for them to decide for themselves. Which is why it's a very thought provoking ending because you could argue that it might be better to trade free will for happy idealized lives, but the characters decided that they would allow people to make their own decisions and forge their own futures.
@@filthyweeb6575 but what about the starving children tho?
@@filthyweeb6575 Except there are things that are utterly outside the realm of free will that can still fuck up your life with no conceivable way to fix them
ain't p5 and p4 endings basically the same?how are they that far apart?
They ain’t tho?
@@mogwall7467 you kill god then you say goodbye to your friends and go back to your hometown
@@M__FO and one is superior to the other. What's so confusing?
@@yourdad5799 yeah I agree persona 5 clears
@@M__FO yea I agree persona 4 clears
Sumeru city lol
Interesting! Voyan W
Still can’t watch this… persona 5 is so good but sooo longg
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persona 2 the best
I think the ending of the vanilla p5 sucked ass, but the p5r ending was AMAZING
I... man, I wish I could see and feel P4 the way you got to.
It felt like it was such a disjointed mess to me, with it's multiple, multiple fakeout endings where it just yanks another final dungeon out and the newest antagonist and everyone just goes "Okay team, this is the final battle!" every time.
And that... cast is rough. Past a certain point, no party member develops or changes.
Yosuke through all of mid-game is being pervy towards the girls or bullying Kanji. He stops being homophobic when he... stops interacting with Kanji. He also never apologizes for his actions.
Teddie exists to sexually harass any and every girl, much to their displeasure and anger.
I think about the group, and wonder how you can call certain characters friends with each other. What do they like or dislike about each other?
And by the time the credits roll, I still have no idea. And it makes me really saddened.
Persona 5 royal has the best ending
Imo I think persona 4 ending is worse then 5s. Unless you include the epilogue
For me, Eternal Punishment's ending felt so contrived, and bad that because of it I can't recommend the Persona 2 games to people. It ultimately makes it come across as if everything was all for nothing, like some kind of Corpse Party game ending. And honestly? The Answer isn't bad at all (tables kicking your ass aside), is a good follow up to the game, in fact does NOT contradict Chidori's survival (despite what people say), and...Yukari did nothing wrong.
i'm curious as to why you think EP's ending wasn't great. personally i thought that the ending was really good as it just felt very different compared to the other persona entries and the fact that tatsuya had to go back to the other timeline which the world is pretty much destroyed with Sumaru city being the only thing that survived was pretty sad and the fact that IS's cast had to sacrifice their friendship and bonds in order to not let the world end.
P4 #1??? LOL
Yes. Problem?