A small token of gratitude for your efforts. I like how you are approaching this hobby. You’re doing things that are to my knowledge rather unique. Looking forward to more videos like this one.
Really liked the departure from usual gear stuff. I don't think the musical aspects of this hobby are discussed enough. Another book recommendation is "This is your brain on music" although I haven't finished reading it and started so long ago I couldn't tell you what I had read. But I do remember it being good. My only point of contention is when you brought the ability to focus on human speech in loud or busier environments. But addressing that would be going down the neurological rabbit hole lol
Lachlan, this is really great. My son has a diagnosed auditory processing disorder which severely limits his speech recognition. But no-one suggested he learn a musical instrument until now.
Neuro plasticity! Our brains have no limit on learning. New neural networks can form, developing new “strategies” aka patterns and preferences. After teaching NLP for over 20 years, it is still amazing each time I teach this and talks about this. Lachlan, this is valuable information! Thank you for this video. Our brains have filters that’ll generalize, delete and distort information as we received them from the outside world into our brains through our 5 senses. Learning an instrument or better yet, playing several instruments allow the auditory faculties of neural networks to register those sounds so we recognize them when we hear it later and can better appreciate their unique sounds.
I used to love micing up the performance students stuff and hearing them play and recording them in person back in sound engineering, got me an appreciation for the music and not just the sound if that makes any sense another great one is 'Critical Listening Skills for Audio Professionals' by F. Alton Everest
I just bought the book off your US link. Interesting that you recommended reading it over the audio book version 🤔 At least it might make me a better reader!
Yes. Interesting, but more about the purpose of pathways back to the auditory system would been of particular interest. The cursive font in tge middle of the video is very hard to see for us older folks. Perhaps learningva new instrument with very different timber would help those that already play. Do understand I got a lot out of your video. And will be checking out the book. If you have an affiliate link I will use it.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll share more of these types of videos in the coming months. I don't believe there's any evidence of cumulative gains from playing multiple instruments, but I also don't know if they've tested it. Thanks for using affiliate links. All links in the description are Amazon affiliate links and should work for Kindle, paperback or Audible versions.
Probably one of my favourite videos from you period, change the title mate this is quite an excellent video that needs to correlate to the title I think Outstanding video, well done
Yes, the challenge is finding the title that people will actually click on the most. No point having a title that's 100% accurate and no-one clicks on...
@@PassionforSound and their lies the problem mate, yes the controversial ridiculous titles I have put on videos Ghana the highest views LOL and you just hope at that point they’re not either enraged or baffled by the title to actually get some of the content of the video and I hate TH-cam for that Especially when you end up doing hundreds of videos, LOL titles tend to be sparse 😂 hope you’re well mate
There's always going to be a limit to how effectively we can isolate sounds in noise, but you'd be having an even harder time if you weren't a musician.
I think that's a different mechanism(s) at work. It could have something to do with Wernicke's area, where speech is processed in the brain. The brain is so complex, there are probably a few different explanations of why someone might struggle to focus on a single voice amongst many other voices and or sounds. I could also be talking out of my ass because it's been awhile since I was in school lol
The studies discussed in the book and my video relate specifically to isolating and understanding speech in noise (at least in that section of the book) so they're all related mechanisms - there's just a limit to their performance when pushed to extremes.
Hmmm, has this been tested ? Every single one of my musician friends ( most of my friends ) are all cloth eared and can't tell the difference between a low rate MP3 and a hi rez audiophile version of music and largely they mostly don't care ! ( Maybe they have all damaged their hearing fom playing music too loud ). I suspect it is like most things that we do if you are not interested in something then you will never improve so if you have no real interest in being a "better" listener then playing an instrument will make zero difference
Someone once said, you can be a good musician (appreciate components in a song) or a good audio analyst (judge a speaker's performance, audiophile perhaps). But it is hard to do both at once
Everything I discussed in the video is based on brain measurements (all objective and not requiring conscious awareness by the individual). However, it's important to factor in how interested someone is in listening critical AND any hearing loss that may have been caused by lifestyle and loud listening or playing.
Are you joking? Learning an instrument is not an easy hack. You didn't mention that you play an instrument, which makes sense. Otherwise you'd know it's difficult and takes dedication, even to "not be good at it"
@@Chuckster0 So you mean just picking some strings on a guitar for 30min. 2-3 times a week is what makes you hear more timbre? Because even that is not an easy hack, if it takes this much time. But trying to understand tone takes actually engaging in a learning process. Maybe not rocket sience but also definitely not an easy hack.
@@OCB_Premium Yes, that is exactly it! 30 minutes a few times a week is really easy. Just think how much time a person spends on their smartphone mindlessly surfing every day. Creating music or something that remotely sounds like music for a small fraction of the time a person stares at a screen is easy!
@@OCB_Premiumyou don't even need to take it that far. When I was a kid, we had a piano. I couldn't play it (and now lament not taking lessons) but I did play with it. It was only occasionally and only for a few minutes, but it was enough to pick up its timbre. I can't describe it well but I remember hearing all the other sounds that weren't part of the note being played. tl;dr go play around with any instrument you can get your hands on for a few minutes. Who knows, you might enjoy it enough to pursue learning it. Win win!
A small token of gratitude for your efforts. I like how you are approaching this hobby. You’re doing things that are to my knowledge rather unique. Looking forward to more videos like this one.
Thanks so much, Willie! I've planned to produce one of these "hearing science" videos every month and might increase that if they're popular. 🙂🙂
Really liked the departure from usual gear stuff. I don't think the musical aspects of this hobby are discussed enough.
Another book recommendation is "This is your brain on music" although I haven't finished reading it and started so long ago I couldn't tell you what I had read. But I do remember it being good.
My only point of contention is when you brought the ability to focus on human speech in loud or busier environments. But addressing that would be going down the neurological rabbit hole lol
I've actually just added "You Brain on Music" to my reading list earlier this week.
Lachlan, this is really great. My son has a diagnosed auditory processing disorder which severely limits his speech recognition. But no-one suggested he learn a musical instrument until now.
It definitely can't hurt and might have all kinds of other benefits.
Neuro plasticity! Our brains have no limit on learning. New neural networks can form, developing new “strategies” aka patterns and preferences. After teaching NLP for over 20 years, it is still amazing each time I teach this and talks about this.
Lachlan, this is valuable information! Thank you for this video. Our brains have filters that’ll generalize, delete and distort information as we received them from the outside world into our brains through our 5 senses. Learning an instrument or better yet, playing several instruments allow the auditory faculties of neural networks to register those sounds so we recognize them when we hear it later and can better appreciate their unique sounds.
Absolutely! I'm glad you liked it, Billy.
I used to love micing up the performance students stuff and hearing them play and recording them in person back in sound engineering, got me an appreciation for the music and not just the sound if that makes any sense
another great one is 'Critical Listening Skills for Audio Professionals' by F. Alton Everest
This second understanding how to upgrade our hearing is super as well. As I wrote in the last video yes would like more on this!
What a fascinating topic, top banana mate!
I'm so glad you liked it!
I just bought the book off your US link.
Interesting that you recommended reading it over the audio book version 🤔
At least it might make me a better reader!
Haha. I know, it's ironic, but the diagrams are really helpful and it's a nice easy read. Thanks for using the link and enjoy the book!
Looks like I'll be dusting off the instruments this winter😊
This is the kind of video I really like from you. This is super interesting, thank you for making this!
I'm so glad you liked it!
Another fantastic video, thank you
I'm so glad you liked it!
Always loved your science content. Keep ‘em coming!
Thanks for letting me know. I'll keep finding more to share
Great content. Thank you
I'm glad you liked it!
Yes. Interesting, but more about the purpose of pathways back to the auditory system would been of particular interest.
The cursive font in tge middle of the video is very hard to see for us older folks. Perhaps learningva new instrument with very different timber would help those that already play.
Do understand I got a lot out of your video. And will be checking out the book. If you have an affiliate link I will use it.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll share more of these types of videos in the coming months.
I don't believe there's any evidence of cumulative gains from playing multiple instruments, but I also don't know if they've tested it.
Thanks for using affiliate links. All links in the description are Amazon affiliate links and should work for Kindle, paperback or Audible versions.
Guess I need to start playing my guitars again.
It's definitely good for you if you're also having fun doing it.
TL;DR (or watch): There's a world of difference between hearing and listening. Interesting video, thanks.
I'm glad you enjoyed it
wow this was so sooo soooo interesting
I'm so glad you liked it!
@@PassionforSound please give us more of these scientific gems - thanks
Planning for one per month at the moment, but I'll increase that if they prove popular
@@PassionforSound love ur touch of humour too
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Fascinating stuff...thank you!
I'm glad you liked it!
Best video to date!
I'm so glad you liked it!
I noticed that since I started doing karaoke I started listening to music differently
Interesting 🙂
Probably one of my favourite videos from you period, change the title mate this is quite an excellent video that needs to correlate to the title I think
Outstanding video, well done
It was a really hard one to title. Got any suggestions?
@@PassionforSoundIt's tough but what you have probably works better for TH-cam clicks and in the end, that's what matters most tbh.
@@PassionforSoundUpgrade your Listening
Yes, the challenge is finding the title that people will actually click on the most. No point having a title that's 100% accurate and no-one clicks on...
@@PassionforSound and their lies the problem mate, yes the controversial ridiculous titles I have put on videos Ghana the highest views LOL and you just hope at that point they’re not either enraged or baffled by the title to actually get some of the content of the video and I hate TH-cam for that
Especially when you end up doing hundreds of videos, LOL titles tend to be sparse 😂 hope you’re well mate
Does mastering Guitar Hero count? :D
Haha. Perhaps for your awareness of timing?
Ahh, yes I knew my guitar and bassplaying was good for me 🙂
Hi, What are your thoughts on pairing a Hegel H400 Integrated amplifier with a pair of Revival Atalante 5 speakers? I am thinking of getting these.
Reddit, or Google, which will direct you to Reddit, lol
I haven't tried either so I can't comment. Sorry.
Agree with most of what you are saying but I'm a musician and Grade 8 piano player and I still find it hard to hear individual voices in a big crowd.
There's always going to be a limit to how effectively we can isolate sounds in noise, but you'd be having an even harder time if you weren't a musician.
I think that's a different mechanism(s) at work. It could have something to do with Wernicke's area, where speech is processed in the brain. The brain is so complex, there are probably a few different explanations of why someone might struggle to focus on a single voice amongst many other voices and or sounds.
I could also be talking out of my ass because it's been awhile since I was in school lol
The studies discussed in the book and my video relate specifically to isolating and understanding speech in noise (at least in that section of the book) so they're all related mechanisms - there's just a limit to their performance when pushed to extremes.
Hmmm, has this been tested ? Every single one of my musician friends ( most of my friends ) are all cloth eared and can't tell the difference between a low rate MP3 and a hi rez audiophile version of music and largely they mostly don't care ! ( Maybe they have all damaged their hearing fom playing music too loud ). I suspect it is like most things that we do if you are not interested in something then you will never improve so if you have no real interest in being a "better" listener then playing an instrument will make zero difference
Someone once said, you can be a good musician (appreciate components in a song) or a good audio analyst (judge a speaker's performance, audiophile perhaps). But it is hard to do both at once
Everything I discussed in the video is based on brain measurements (all objective and not requiring conscious awareness by the individual).
However, it's important to factor in how interested someone is in listening critical AND any hearing loss that may have been caused by lifestyle and loud listening or playing.
Was expecting a neurolink pitch
Haha. Nope 🙂
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Are you joking? Learning an instrument is not an easy hack. You didn't mention that you play an instrument, which makes sense. Otherwise you'd know it's difficult and takes dedication, even to "not be good at it"
No one said you have to be proficient at the instrument.
@@Chuckster0 So you mean just picking some strings on a guitar for 30min. 2-3 times a week is what makes you hear more timbre? Because even that is not an easy hack, if it takes this much time. But trying to understand tone takes actually engaging in a learning process. Maybe not rocket sience but also definitely not an easy hack.
@@OCB_Premium Yes, that is exactly it! 30 minutes a few times a week is really easy. Just think how much time a person spends on their smartphone mindlessly surfing every day. Creating music or something that remotely sounds like music for a small fraction of the time a person stares at a screen is easy!
Yep. All it takes is a desire to learn to play and then some light practice a few times a week...
@@OCB_Premiumyou don't even need to take it that far. When I was a kid, we had a piano. I couldn't play it (and now lament not taking lessons) but I did play with it. It was only occasionally and only for a few minutes, but it was enough to pick up its timbre. I can't describe it well but I remember hearing all the other sounds that weren't part of the note being played.
tl;dr go play around with any instrument you can get your hands on for a few minutes. Who knows, you might enjoy it enough to pursue learning it. Win win!