Thank you for sharing your testing both near and far from the wall. I just bought an almost identical product and was trying to figure out where to place them. This certainly helped. Thanks again.
Amazing details bud. I am purchasing some for my home thanks to this video. I was amazed with the electrical connection recommendation also. I’m an electrician and I’m even impressed with that. Much better connection!
Thank you for the video. I definitely prefer the track look vs the govee stick on lights. I ordered tracks and lights from a seller on aliexpress that I am waiting for to use with my diguno controller. I think I ordered them with 5 LEDs/m to save some money but I also didn't think I needed a high density of lights. I appreciate your demonstration, helps me be better prepared for when they arrive and I end up installing them in the snow...
Thanks for the video! This looks like a great option. FYI- Check your video description, you listed the wire connectors twice but the links are for the controller and the connectors. 😃
VCC (Voltage Common Collector) is the higher voltage with respect to GND (ground). VCC is the power input of a device. It may be positive or negative with respect to GND. When the only positive power supply is used then VSS (Voltage Source Supply) means ground or zero.
1) 12v for barrel but what amp? 2) What’s the longest for data, 150ft? What about max distance between jumps/extensions. I need to know if I can wire both stories linearly or if I need 2 segments. If a data booster is needed, do you have a recommendation? 3) The controller you used can support 2 segments? What about the BrightHome controller, looks like 4? 4) Is the controller Ethernet only? If so, do you have a Wi-Fi recommendation?
1. Ignore my demo setup. It was a power supply from an external hard drive. Enough power for demo, but that’s it. 2. For design advice, I recommend posting pictures to Reddit /r/WLED. I don’t know of a max data length, but I recommend a booster before every extension. My preference is handydad.tv/famp with the X-Connect ends. 3. The photo of their controller is a Dig-Quad which has 4 channels. 4. They only mention WiFi controllers. I know the Dig-Quad is available with Ethernet but you might need to do that custom.
Plenty people have in my neighborhood, last year I moved to ID and I really want them, I understood that the neighbor paid 5K $$$ maybe one day I could get them!!!
This is Excellent! You answered questions I've had for 2 years! I chose white vinyl siding specifically so I could change house colors at night. Now I know I want them as far away from the house as possible. A question; would angling them about 20 - 30 degrees 'light up' the house better?
Another great video, thank you. I see they sell a warm white and a cool white. Their site says that the cool white can be made to look warm, but I'm guessing the warm cannot be made to look cool. With that said is there any reason to buy the warm instead of the cool?
I assume cool can be made to look warm by adding yellow. I suppose warm could look cooler by adding blue. I personally prefer pure warm white for accent lighting so that’s what I would get. If I ever need cool white, I’d use RGB to make it.
I was a installer of everlights “permanent lights”(trained by everlights). ***do not install**** Their lights are made like cheap garbage. I also have experience working with c9 seasonal lights. The c9 lights that are temporary lasted longer than everlights. Within a couple weeks. Bulbs would burn up. I mean literally burn 🔥. Not just “burn out”. Our company dropped them after only a few installs because we made no money fixing them all of the time. Still doing warranty calls even after firing them.
I liked your far-and-near-to-wall holding tests. Have you tried far-mounting with a Govee set, while also tilting the lights to face partially toward the house? Say around 20 or 40 degrees. I think that might get rid of the scalloped shadow effect while still enabling spreading the colors further down the wall, but I don't own any to try (yet). Thanks!
WLED controllers are usually WiFi but wired Ethernet is also available. WLED has tons of effects built-in and the Bright Home Lights app adds some presets to get you started.
Where would the power injection wire come from? (The controller or another source). Also, power injection wire would be ran through the channel starting at the beginning?
Hey. Quick question, my Fascia hangs over my soffits at different lengths. I am going to make it all uniform this week. What is the suggested distance that the fascia overhangs for the optimal look of the lights? (What is max distance between where your tracks sit and the fascia covers them?)
These lights don’t have a specific spacing requirement like Govee. The best practice is to hang them towards the outer edge of your soffit to make them less visible. It doesn’t matter how far they are from the house.
Watch this about the limitations of a Y connector: th-cam.com/video/zhqqC9orh0s/w-d-xo.html I don’t recommend splitting the data signal. It would be better to double back so they are connected end to end. Then you can easily create individual segments in WLED to animate them exactly how you want.
I got a question! I recently moved into a new house and there's a duel light swith in the basement hallway. Top light switch runs the entrance light and the bottom runs the actual basement lights. The top switch keeps tripping the breaker? So i traced it all out today and they have a wire coming from a basement outlet running to a junction box. Then out of the junction box it goes to that light swith at the entrance and the other wire coming from the junction box goes to the entrance light. They have all 3 hots wire nutted all 3 neutrals wire nutted and of course the 3 grounds wire nutted.
If the breaker trips when you turn on that switch, you have a short downstream from the switch. The source of power doesn’t matter. Focus your attention on the switch leg and the devices it powers.
Thanks for the comparison but I did notice that your not comparing apples to apples for example some Companies are using ETL or UL CERTIFIED lights your preferred choice doesn’t. Plus having separate led light vs stings is another difference difference
Yes you can cut them to fit as needed. The Bright Home Lights app has several preset patterns for various holidays. They’re classier, not as obnoxious as Govee’s. And completely customizable.
@handydadtv do you have a video on that? Also, do you cut them to specific length and closed the open end so water won't damage the inside of the line?
@Ruthlessbone This video th-cam.com/video/7hAfBb0e5Z8/w-d-xo.html shows my setup from last year. Not permanent lights, but WLED doesn’t care. I’m waiting to hear back from the vendor to see if end caps are available, but that’s just for esthetics and to keep wasps out, not for weather. The strings and connectors are waterproof. You will definitely need to cut them to fit specific spaces and you’ll need to provide waterproof splices. If you cut the very end and don’t need a splice, you can seal the ends with hot glue.
They’re definitely in business. You’re coming in at the tail end of peak demand and most permanent lighting is sold out. My videos didn’t help. Try again after Winter is over.
I did 350 feet, for around 3100 in material, labor was 1800 with a contractor who spend 3 and a half days on a 1 story house. I will get another 1000 feet soon for my decks.
Thank you for sharing your testing both near and far from the wall. I just bought an almost identical product and was trying to figure out where to place them. This certainly helped. Thanks again.
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
I used to work in commercial rgb lighting, designing and programming solutions like this. Glad to see it come to the consumer level!
Thanks
Amazing details bud. I am purchasing some for my home thanks to this video. I was amazed with the electrical connection recommendation also. I’m an electrician and I’m even impressed with that. Much better connection!
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
Not sure about Govee but I agree they look better at edge of soffit. These look like a viable option and appreciate your research and opinion.
My pleasure!
Thank you for the video. I definitely prefer the track look vs the govee stick on lights. I ordered tracks and lights from a seller on aliexpress that I am waiting for to use with my diguno controller. I think I ordered them with 5 LEDs/m to save some money but I also didn't think I needed a high density of lights. I appreciate your demonstration, helps me be better prepared for when they arrive and I end up installing them in the snow...
Let me know how the shipment looks when it arrives. Damage is my biggest fear because you’ll get no support from China.
Thanks for the video! This looks like a great option. FYI- Check your video description, you listed the wire connectors twice but the links are for the controller and the connectors. 😃
Oops! Thanks 😊
I'm thinking of going this way too. Thanks for the video.
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
VCC (Voltage Common Collector) is the higher voltage with respect to GND (ground). VCC is the power input of a device. It may be positive or negative with respect to GND. When the only positive power supply is used then VSS (Voltage Source Supply) means ground or zero.
Thanks!
VERY informative. Thank you, so much.
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
Is there a end cap? These are pretty slick. I like how the channel covers the wires.
They don’t supply end caps. The best practice is to make them with scrap channels.
Thanks for the video. Helps out with all the different products to choose from. 👍
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
1) 12v for barrel but what amp?
2) What’s the longest for data, 150ft? What about max distance between jumps/extensions. I need to know if I can wire both stories linearly or if I need 2 segments. If a data booster is needed, do you have a recommendation?
3) The controller you used can support 2 segments? What about the BrightHome controller, looks like 4?
4) Is the controller Ethernet only? If so, do you have a Wi-Fi recommendation?
1. Ignore my demo setup. It was a power supply from an external hard drive. Enough power for demo, but that’s it.
2. For design advice, I recommend posting pictures to Reddit /r/WLED. I don’t know of a max data length, but I recommend a booster before every extension. My preference is handydad.tv/famp with the X-Connect ends.
3. The photo of their controller is a Dig-Quad which has 4 channels.
4. They only mention WiFi controllers. I know the Dig-Quad is available with Ethernet but you might need to do that custom.
@@handydadtv Thanks!
Plenty people have in my neighborhood, last year I moved to ID and I really want them, I understood that the neighbor paid 5K $$$ maybe one day I could get them!!!
These are only $6/foot if you’re willing to install yourself. And you can do it in phases to minimize your initial investment.
What part of Idaho?? We have a company that installs in Idaho
Please upload a video once the lights are installed. I would like to see what the lights look like in the daylight on the house. Great video thanks.
I haven’t installed them but you can find lots of other examples with similar lights.
@@handydadtv I just had my lights, (350 feet) installed. If you are interested, I can take a video for you.
@seannguyen1866 Of these? Yeah!
Thanks for being so responsive. Do you know the width of the tracks? Can’t seem to find it on their website.
Email connect@brighthomelights.com
This is Excellent! You answered questions I've had for 2 years! I chose white vinyl siding specifically so I could change house colors at night. Now I know I want them as far away from the house as possible. A question; would angling them about 20 - 30 degrees 'light up' the house better?
Angling them would greatly complicate the installation and the lights wouldn’t be visible from the street. I wouldn’t.
Great Video! I’m Definitely Putting these up! One n Done!
Good choice. 👍🏻
nice video but how do you connect to power? Most homes do not have power in the soffit area.
Put the controller in the garage or attic.
Another great video, thank you. I see they sell a warm white and a cool white. Their site says that the cool white can be made to look warm, but I'm guessing the warm cannot be made to look cool. With that said is there any reason to buy the warm instead of the cool?
I assume cool can be made to look warm by adding yellow. I suppose warm could look cooler by adding blue.
I personally prefer pure warm white for accent lighting so that’s what I would get. If I ever need cool white, I’d use RGB to make it.
what a great video!
Thanks so much 😊
I was a installer of everlights “permanent lights”(trained by everlights). ***do not install****
Their lights are made like cheap garbage. I also have experience working with c9 seasonal lights. The c9 lights that are temporary lasted longer than everlights. Within a couple weeks. Bulbs would burn up. I mean literally burn 🔥. Not just “burn out”. Our company dropped them after only a few installs because we made no money fixing them all of the time. Still doing warranty calls even after firing them.
Oh wow. Thanks for the info.
Can you confirm how many feet you can run these prior to injecting power? My run will be 90 feet. Do I need power injection?
I believe the rule of thumb is every 10 sections.
You mentioned using the WLED on the Athom vs their system. Were you saying their system is running WLED?
Yes their controller uses WLED so it’s easy to integrate other props in your display.
I liked your far-and-near-to-wall holding tests. Have you tried far-mounting with a Govee set, while also tilting the lights to face partially toward the house? Say around 20 or 40 degrees. I think that might get rid of the scalloped shadow effect while still enabling spreading the colors further down the wall, but I don't own any to try (yet). Thanks!
I’ll be using Govee lights this year and they’ll be mounted at the edge of my soffit. I’ll explain in that video coming soon. Stay tuned!
@@handydadtv Cool. Subbed!
@Darrylx444 Thanks for subscribing! Welcome to the family!
On the accent white light, can you have it only light up every 5 or 6 lights or so?
Yes
The controller you used is already wifi compatible? And does the app come with preset lights shows or do you program them all yourself?
WLED controllers are usually WiFi but wired Ethernet is also available. WLED has tons of effects built-in and the Bright Home Lights app adds some presets to get you started.
Where would the power injection wire come from? (The controller or another source). Also, power injection wire would be ran through the channel starting at the beginning?
The best practice is to run a parallel wire from the controller for power injection.
Hey. Quick question, my Fascia hangs over my soffits at different lengths. I am going to make it all uniform this week. What is the suggested distance that the fascia overhangs for the optimal look of the lights? (What is max distance between where your tracks sit and the fascia covers them?)
These lights don’t have a specific spacing requirement like Govee. The best practice is to hang them towards the outer edge of your soffit to make them less visible. It doesn’t matter how far they are from the house.
I have a two story home with a couple of triangles for the upstairs roofline, is there a way to do a Y configuration to do the full triangle? Thanks!
Watch this about the limitations of a Y connector: th-cam.com/video/zhqqC9orh0s/w-d-xo.html
I don’t recommend splitting the data signal. It would be better to double back so they are connected end to end. Then you can easily create individual segments in WLED to animate them exactly how you want.
I got a question! I recently moved into a new house and there's a duel light swith in the basement hallway. Top light switch runs the entrance light and the bottom runs the actual basement lights. The top switch keeps tripping the breaker? So i traced it all out today and they have a wire coming from a basement outlet running to a junction box. Then out of the junction box it goes to that light swith at the entrance and the other wire coming from the junction box goes to the entrance light. They have all 3 hots wire nutted all 3 neutrals wire nutted and of course the 3 grounds wire nutted.
My ? Is how do you wire this in the junction box so it doesn't trip the breaker? Thanks in advance
If the breaker trips when you turn on that switch, you have a short downstream from the switch. The source of power doesn’t matter. Focus your attention on the switch leg and the devices it powers.
What kind of power supply did you use?
The kit will come with a power supply sized for your installation. I just used one I had laying around for tinkering.
This LED string and channel is same from AliExpress.
I’ve only seen 5 lights/meter on AliExpress. And you get no support from China.
Did you use the daylight or warm white temperature lights?
These samples have warm white. That’s what I prefer.
Thanks. Enjoy your videos.
whats the software used? WLED?
Yes. Bright Home Lights controller uses a Dig-Quad running WLED.
Thanks for the comparison but I did notice that your not comparing apples to apples for example some
Companies are using ETL or UL CERTIFIED lights your preferred choice doesn’t. Plus having separate led light vs stings is another difference difference
Not sure UL certification applies to low voltage lights.
Can you cut off lights on these? Also does the app have already programed themes for holidays? Like Halloween Christmas and so on like Govee?
Yes you can cut them to fit as needed. The Bright Home Lights app has several preset patterns for various holidays. They’re classier, not as obnoxious as Govee’s. And completely customizable.
@@handydadtv how thick are the tracks? Im out in cali and we dont have flat eaves underneath. Of course another thing with California haha
@begrateful8934 Thick enough to span your rafters but thin enough to cut with tin snips or a miter saw.
@@handydadtv ok what about top to bottom width like the thickness ofnthe track when assembled
Can you turn the lights off individually
Yes
Do these function on a DMX network?
Google “ws2811 dmx controller”
Actually these lights are sk6812.
Each group of 3 leds aare considered as 1 addressible in WLED?
That’s correct.
Thank you!
Can the be customisable to an adjusted length?
Yes absolutely. You need to configure WLED with the number of lights on each channel (data line).
@handydadtv do you have a video on that? Also, do you cut them to specific length and closed the open end so water won't damage the inside of the line?
@Ruthlessbone This video th-cam.com/video/7hAfBb0e5Z8/w-d-xo.html shows my setup from last year. Not permanent lights, but WLED doesn’t care.
I’m waiting to hear back from the vendor to see if end caps are available, but that’s just for esthetics and to keep wasps out, not for weather. The strings and connectors are waterproof. You will definitely need to cut them to fit specific spaces and you’ll need to provide waterproof splices. If you cut the very end and don’t need a splice, you can seal the ends with hot glue.
@@handydadtv thank you so much!
What do they look like under the gutters?
I don’t think that installation would be possible.
Can they be hooked to xLights?
Yes
Is this company still in Business? it seems most are sold out with out any info...and the Facebook page has zero updates..Thanks!!
They’re definitely in business. You’re coming in at the tail end of peak demand and most permanent lighting is sold out. My videos didn’t help. Try again after Winter is over.
If you dont mind me asking, what was the total cost for your build? It looks great. Im very interested in doing the same to my house.
I haven’t installed these on my house yet. I just had the two sample strings.
I did 350 feet, for around 3100 in material, labor was 1800 with a contractor who spend 3 and a half days on a 1 story house. I will get another 1000 feet soon for my decks.
@seannguyen1866 Which brand did you install?
@@handydadtv After your video, I bought the bright home lights. Lol.
@seannguyen1866 Oh great! Would love to see pictures. Tag me on FB or Insta so I can see them.
They use a dig-quad?
That’s what it shows in the picture in the install guide.
local contractor wants $11,000 to do our home. 3800 sq ft and one story
One story is really easy for DIY.
That’s insane. If people are paying that I really need to start a business installing permanent lights on peoples houses
I had a contractor installed 350 linear feet for 1800. Getting another 1000 for my 2 decks. Very happy with the result.
@jonkalm There are a lot of people with F. U. money in this country.
You must be rich!