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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Do you want big armor? Do you want big weapons? Do you want to be a shield for your allies? Well maybe Tanking in XIV is the role for you, and I can give you the primer on this role.
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The hardest thing about tanking in 14 is leading the way when you have no sense of direction
Wdym? Dungeons are all hallways.
@GoatOfWar In most dungeons, that's the case, but in some earlier dungeons like Haukke Manor, they can be a little wonky to properly navigate for someone who hasn't learned the layout.
There's like 2 low level dungeons where this is relevant. Let's be honest lol
99% of the dungeons are straight paths.
@@CadeAid1 right, he must not have played sirensong sea which is literally a straight away dungeon with one path & no turns except for the very beginning when you get on the island.
@@GoatOfWar remember in one piece where Zoro got lost on a completely straight path? some people have that level of direction. I've seen people get lost on where to go after a finishing a boss battle.
The slow from Arm's Length does *not* slow move speed, *only* attack speed.
Was a pleasure to help with some bits of footage, and I'm glad how the final product turned out.
Not brought to you by World of Tanks, funnily enough.
I kinda hate that ffxiv watered down aggro to just popping an aura. Threat management was such an interesting mechanic back in the day and made fighting more dynamic.
You wanna tank in Dawntrail and not sure which one? Well I got the perfect tank for you.
Warrior, braindead, easy, broken, requires no healers to a degree.
If you die complain about how Warrior is too weak and needs more buffs.
I never die but I'm still gonna say Warrior needs more healing because I just want MORE.
Tanking is brain dead easy until it’s not. Anything below savage/ultimate content you can unironically play with one hand.
- a tank main
My problem is when it comes to trails where there is 2 tanks, how do you know when you are supposed to switch mt and ot? Do you even need to switch for regular content?
There are some mechanics which would make it slightly easier for the group if you switch.
For example: A5N (Alexander - The Fist of the Son); the Boss will make himself bigger and proceed to give the MT a stacking debuff named "Headache" which after 4 stacks will advance to "Concusion" which increases the damage of his next attack. This attack will then either wipe out the MT or damage them by around 90% HP. This is the point where you could switch Tanks so it does not happen. But in all fairness this will just be either a mild inconvenience for the group or, if the healer is semi-competent, not matter at all since the healer will top the tank off befor the hit and immediately again after the hit.
In short: Is tank swapping neccessary in normal content? Not really. You could do it if you know what the mechanic is but its not a problem if you don't.
I use Superbolide right after my healer uses Benediction on me.
Arms length is seriously SLEPT ON in trash mobs that do higher damage.
yeah, spreading the word about it was half the reason I did this video
it made me laugh enough times i subbed
good shit
glad you enjoyed it
I don’t know if it’s just me but I’ve never felt that talk was such a hard thing to do
My problem was always securing aggro on everything during a mob pull. I switched my camera to legacy, which let's me do range attacks without any effort. My next problem is finding the best position. Like the boss just jumped to the side. He forced everyone to go to him. Now he's done with the attack. Do I just stay there or move him back to the center? More of a problem with roulettes when going up against a boss I haven't seen in a year.
As a DPS, or even a healer, it's just.. pew pew.. brain no care unless extreme.
It's all about making life for your party easier, for your example with the boss jumping to a wall often times they will move themselves so you moving them is pointless. Better to just keep them at the wall and not spinning them around or moving them too much so your melee can get positionals. Some fights (particularly older ones) the boss may not do that and upcoming mechanics may become harder as a result.
Moving bosses as a tank is less so about whats best for the boss, and more so about how can you make life easier for the rest of the party.
I've tanked a few pulls on my drg with arms length and bloodbath 😅
Please leave the tanking to actual tanks.
All you do when you pretend to be a tank is make it so you annoy yhe actual tank & a good way to make the healer ignore you completely.
Please leave the tanking to actual tanks.
All you do when you pretend to be a tank is make it so you annoy the actual tank & a good way to make the healer ignore you completely.
If i am on my tank, I dont normally aggro enemies tge healer or dps aggro because I AM THE ONE WHP DECIDES what to tank, if you want to play as the tank, get off your class & go play as a tank instead of playing headgames.
@sammicoporsammicopor I only did this because the tank dcd brother what's that assumption xD
@@Funguspower2I've seen this dude show up on several videos with a stick up his butt about it. Let me just say as a _competent_ tank main: feel absolutely free to pull ahead with arm's length and bloodbath as dps, the bonus mit is always appreciated, assuming you can even manage to get in front of me in the first place. YPYT mentality is for the feebleminded.
@@rugalbernstein5913 Actually just tonight a tank went down tonight in a wall to wall i arms lengthed slowed everything while the healer rezzed him up and did exactly that lol, was a flawless recovery! \o/
Man that intro depressed me, already wrote an essay on one Zeplas vids about the problem with tanking/healing. And just hearing it again hits right in the oof. I miss the days of stance dancing and fighting to keep aggro as a tank while min/maxing DPS. :(
I dunno, 11min video for 2 steps: turn on tank stance, keep doing damage.
Just cleared DSR on war, its not the easiest role in the 😂😂😂😂😂😂 (i have ptsd)
keeping aggro is easy. staying alive is a breeze. remembering all those skill names is difficult
Worth noting there is one downside to Warrior invuln; it requires a target to activate. If you're not targeting, you can't cast it, and if your target dies, it ends early. This is only important in mob pulls so be sure to latch it on the healthiest one.
You can macro Holmgang to target yourself and never have to worry about range or your target dying
It's actually only the slow on Holmgang that needs a target, the Invulnerability part doesn't
@@vexusdelquick question, can i pop the warrior invul without target? I'm a bit curioud because it's one tank i don't have experience with
@@idontlikeURLsyes, you can. If you use Holmgang without a target, it activates just the same as if you had targeted yourself, which is preferable since, as mentioned before, targeting an enemy and that enemy dying before Holmgang runs out will end the invuln early.
1:48 Arm's Length gives "slow +20%" that affects enemy GCD only. While "Heavy" debuff directly affects movement speed, like ninja's doton "heavy +40%".
Yeah... I just completely missed this when making the video
The hardest part of tanking is deciding to W2W or not.
if you aren't pulling w2w in most dungeons, especially in EW, you are doing something wrong. Not that I like this formula, but all those dungeons are basically designed to be w2w.
Hopefully dawntrail fixes that, Yoshi P has said he regrets making the game so easy.
@@GriziDaWiz It's about time trash mobs get some actual mechanics instead of just dodging a cone attack
Eh PLD self healing is pretty close to warriors zzz.
What are you talking about? It costs 4k mana in a dungeon to use clemency each time.
Clemency is only good for self-heal & keeping the healer alive if the dungeon gets dicey.
@@sammicoporsammicopor Clemency isn't the only self healing tool PLD Has...?
Did you know at 84 pld heals 400 potency with each magic attack (you cast around 8 per minute so it's around 3200 potency total per minute), Holy sheltron grants you a regen each use (which is on a stack system, so you can hold two and gain 50 oath every 21 seconds for another use). Divine veil heals everyone like shake it off.
Also clemency is 2000mp after 64 but i wasn't even talking about clemency as its a dps loss, I don't believe you've played Paladin lol
Yeah it's easy to to say this at level 90 but Paladin gets nearly every ability and trait later than the other tanks. WAR gets healing at 54 and is pretty much the best tank til at least the mid 80s. You can w2w with PLD in almost every leveling dungeon but to say they're near equal is a bit of a reach.
@@mp9228 near equal 84+ and in current content yes.
Sorry i don't really consider outdated content for "you wanna tank in DT"
@@GregHealthy well they don’t start at level 90 do they
Now do healers please