My mother was a land girl on a Scottish farm in WW2. One night when they were having their meal , Haw Haw, or Deutschland Sender as he called himself was on the radio saying that the people in Scotland were starving. The farmer who was a bit of a wag, put his steaming plate of mince and tatties up to the set and proclaimed " Starving are we? Smell that you bugger" 😄
@@sonnycorleone2602 My dear departed mum had a wealth of stories from her time on Rose Farm on the Black Isle. She was a sheltered middle class girl from Central Belt of Scotland. Her mother wouldn't let her join the WAFs cos she thought she would be at the mercy of randy army officers. 😄 I'm happy about that cos she met my dad , who was a local boy, at a dance when he was home on leave from the RAF.
Yes but that still doesn't explain why his wife and fellow conspirators got off with minor sentences for doing the same thing , didn't they have British passports ? Very fishy.
LOL, I guess that no English can fathom someone "English" hating England. But England will most likely pay for her mistake of murdering a righteous man for just making broadcasts. Is that the wonderful English freedumb of speech, or just more English canting. Wonder what will happen to those who work for the BBC when the shoe is on the other foot? I guarantee you the new regime will remember what they did to Lord Haw Haw, and how the inferiors called him names and murdered him.
Oooh! Instant sub from me! This looks good! I haven't even heard more than 2 minutes, but I just want to say good luck with Amazing Pudding! I am looking forward to future episodes with great anticipation of high quality and variety.
@@topologyrob There is evidence that she was actually following orders from an American Officer (POW) who told her to do what she had to do to survive. Her broadcasts were often corny and entertaining. She, like Lord Haw Haw had few negative responses from allied troops. They listened to her with great fun. When she trumpeted Japanese victories that US troops knew were defeats, she was telling us that what she was saying is what the Japanese people were hearing.
The legal point in his trial was that you dont actually have to be a British citizen to be a traitor. If you are someone who "owes allegiance to the crown" then you can betray the crown. So for example someone serving in british uniform who was not a citizen (which was possible in world war 2) owed allegiance to the crown and could be a traitor. Joyce was travelling on a British passport, however he gained it, by using it he was claiming the protection of the crown which meant he owed it allegiance. It's a technical point, but since both his parents were british and he had never applied for an American passport everything was technical. As Talleyrand said, "Treason is largely a matter of dates."
So what ? his wife had a British passport and all his colleagues, why weren't they hanged for treason and what about the British citizens who joined the Nazi SS ?
@@chriswatkin6213 Didnt say it was right or logical, just explaining the point. I'm not sure exactly what happened to Margaret Joyce, but she certainly supported her husband all the way. Several of the British Free Corps men were convicted by courts martial of aiding the enemy while a POW and dont forget John Amery, the founder of the BFC, was actually hanged as a traitor just like Joyce.
But did he ever claim 'protection of the crown' using that passport? Surely his intent was simply to use it to enter Germany? How is that claiming protection?
How did he hurt England? Even the traitors who produced this rubbish said he had no effect, which means they murdered him just for the fun of it. Are those the kinds of people you support? It would explain why the world is the way it is today.
My whole family myself included listened to him regulary, he was to us and my boyhood friends, just a figure of fun. We mocked him. One thing for sure he had no effect on British moral. He got what he deserved.
I stand to be corrected, but I think that at one time his speeches were broadcast from the powerful Radio Luxembourg transmitter that was at the time in the hands of the Nazis.
@@dalechetto9692 That he was, spewed nazi propaganda for 5 years & thought he could get away with it, no matter which coat he wore. If history was reversed he would still have gone the same way. (German/Swiss passport batting for Britain with an axis victory)
Well if people taught there children what they should they wouldn't be running around stabbing each other there are no severe punishments that's the problem
@@fs410 If people taught *their* children......! The possessive *their* should've been used in that sentence. Education standards have sunk to a dismal low standard if people cannot use the correct spelling of a word for a specific meaning.
yeah, teach your children that if you go on radio or TV and espouse views that Nazis don't like, if they take power some day, you'll end up like Lord Haw Haw, LMAO
They must have found it inappropriate considering the circumstances. What they considered appropriate , genocide and all the rest seems to be been a completely different matter .
Yeah, you were there I suppose, LOL. So they recorded it but didn't broadcast it? Will BBC talking head bimbos go on the air drunk when democracy comes to an end?
With a US passport he could have been tried for treason in New York instead. That trial would have gone at a breakneck pace too. His neck. Spending decades on death row seems to be a modern phenomenon.
Exactly. just a few years later they wasted no time executing the Rosenbergs for passing atomic secrets to the Russians, despite those secrets being already known and publicly available in NYU University library if you knew where to look. The FBI wanted a confession from Julius or Ethel and they would have halted the execution immediately, but they were committed to communism and wanted to martyr themselves. They should have saved themselves. they would have been released soon after and maybe swapped for spies to live out their days in Moscow.
Agreed. This "documentary" is trying to blame Haw Haw for his own death rather than on the people who murdered him. That means that you can kill someone for broadcasting the wrong thing if a new regime takes over. This will probably have ramifications in the future, as democracy is finished. The reason Haw Haw is still talked about is that the descendants of his murderers understand the implications of killing someone for being a broadcaster.
@King Royal In which case he got hanged for lying on his passport application. Now that IS harsh. You COULD argue that the UK passport was invalid to start with as it was obtained using false pretences (nationality claims). A false document could not carry an obligation of loyalty to the king. Anybody else would have been fined and the passport cancelled in retrospect. But he was Lord Haw Haw and they didn't see the joke. They would have found a technicality if he had a US passport instead. Declared the naturalization invalid.while the passport was in issue or something..
@@jamesoneill5070 time will tell when the full truth is known. But my point still stands. Treason is a capitol offence. So those who have betrayed us, from top to bottom, know exactly what to expect.
On the other hand,being a sort of double agent by alerting the Irisk,the British were also alerted.and alerting the Germans th enemies of Ermany were also alerted? I think he should have been given a Knighthood
@@dehoedisc7247 when Lawful Rebellion in full turns things around, all traitors from top to bottom will be rounded up and dealt with in accordance with our Constitution. Treason act applies. Plain and simple.
We know all about pressure on judges, even supreme court judges. Look no further than the recent ignoring of Pennsylvania election law by judges fearful of ridicule by the media or concern for the safety of themselves and their families. They did not want BLM or Antifa types standing on their front porches. Joyce knew himself to be a traitor despite the fig leaf of an American birth certificate. Germany loses the war...Joyce knew the consequences of his behaviour as early as 1939. This does not excuse the British kangaroo courts of 1945 that ignored paperwork technicalities like passports and birth certificates. The statements made by Joyce about American armed forces would have earned him 15 years in prison for treason in America, but the British wanted revenge.
There wasn't only one Lord Haw-Haw. It was said to have been used to describe another person named Norman Baillie-Stewart originally and then used as a moniker for a number of English speaking German propaganda broadcasters. There was one that had the nickname 'Sinister Sam'.
I am afraid this is a hair splitting canard.The Two Leslie's were singing about William Joyce and using this name.Their satire the Humbug from Hamburg was clearly not directed at anyone else. In Germany they called Joyce Doctor Froehlich.
Germany calling here are the Reichssender Hamburg Station Bremen and Station DXB on the thirty one metre band You are about to hear our news in English...
P G Wodehouse is supposed to have broadcast for the Germans though in a way hardly comparable with Joyce. Despite the fact they did not allow him a knighthood people like Malcolm Muggeridge found no fault in him. I've never managed to find out what was broadcast or why he ever really did it.
He was more British than anything. But it's totally cowardly of them to blame his death on the passport he chose! They would have murdered him anyway, most likely, or put him in a mental institution. He wasn't the only Nazi sympathizer to be murdered after the war by the all loving liberals.
William Joyce's last words before his execution: "I am proud to die for my ideals and I am sorry for the sons of Britain who have died without knowing why."
Joyce would be an honoured senior BBC tv presenter today, sitting alone ngside other traitors like Maitless and that woman with that awful Scotch rasping voice.
An American who falsely aquires a British Passport makes themselves subject to British Justice so he was a traitor to both, he "took up arms" for the enemy and was hanged for his actions. He betrayed anyone to suit himself, he got what traitors got, and still should. Justice done.
Not really! You even admit he was American... according to British law, then and now, British nationality is null and void if obtained by deception... and an American citizen cannot commit treason to the British Crown because they are not British subjects.... hence William Joyce, whatever one may think of his actions and political convictions as a Fascist and National Socialist, was illegally murdered under false legal pretences simply out of revenge and anger... British Justice indeed... more like the Wild West. Just because someone isn't "liked" doesn't mean he or she should be denied fair trial.... and that includes Jack the Ripper, as far as I'm concerned.
Totally agree. All broadcasters should get a death sentence for being politically incorrect. Could you imagine the bloodbath that would occur if the Nazis took over tomorrow? That's a lot of "traitors" in the BBC. They better hope this democracy lasts or a lot of heads will be on the chopping block. The Nazi powers that be might turn against the idiot masses who murder a man for broadcasting an opinion.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw Correct, he had a forged one, but as the Yanks wanted him gone too, they did not push the point and he got what he deserved. Commit treason in wartime you get topped, and he was a traitor to "The Allies"
I've little sympathy for the man, but having picked the wrong side, I doubt if he could do much about it in practical terms, even if he wanted to, as he was in the clutches of the Nazis. They would have dealt with him themselves if he didn't play ball.
@@wordsmith52 very true, unless your in that persons situation its really impossible to judge, some people who were treated as traitors were being threatened by the nazis, IE do this for us or your family will be sent to the camps and if you do this you will be fed and live, OK no this guy but many people in occupied Europe were given Hobsons choice, woman who worked as cleaners, cooks, admin staff were treated terribly after the end on WW2, for what, surviving and putting their families first, some of the retributions in France and Poland were as bad as the nazis, worse in some cases, all forgotten now, did we learn anything from WW2, I don't think so.
@@PORRRIDGE_GUN No, I don't think so either. I suppose attitudes and thinking must have been different to ours (from the comfort of our keyboards). He went to Germany in the first place and gambled on the Nazis winning. Just doing that was enough to remove any vestige of sympathy for many people. But who knows what was really going through his head entirely, especially as he (along with thousands of others) appeared to be suffering from alcoholism and possibly egomania.
@@irishgraff1 Through the main gate and its immediately on the left hand side in the main gathering of graves. It's in about the middle. A nondescript, forlorn grave with a white cross.
Not at first. After his execution at HMP Wandsworth (by Albert Pierrepoint who noted that Joyce's scar split open!) he was buried there in an unmarked grave as a self declared Anglican. Despite this he was exhumed in 1976 & reburied in Galway as a Papist. This process was paid for partly by the Irish Government after a private appeal raised insufficient funds. There you go.
To me he sounds a lot like Churchill...... and I agree he should of faced some kind of trial for his actions during the War. Two weeks later is not rushed, or maybe it is if your a lawyer. Strange odd man, justice was served.
@@PORRRIDGE_GUN That was my only problem with this entire situation. If you're going to execute a man, that it should be done correctly at under the rule of law. It should have been three weeks, not two.
@brasspick: 'technicalities', do you mean the 'law' ? Thats why the laws are there, in times when one side is gunning for revenge due to losses they have suffered, the laws are there to protect the 'innocent until proven guilty' people, you know - 'British Justice', best and fairest justice system in the world, that everyone is told as they are growing up. He humiliated them during the war with his words, when it was over they were going to exact their revenge, that's why they rushed ahead with his execution.
@@twinturbo8304 It is not in vain GOD placed the sword in the hand of the King. Books of wisdom/ The Bible Self defense of home or nation Is not murder, capital punishment is With in the kings authority. Treason calls for the death penalty.
I read an article on his life some years back and it claimed that he saw himself as British. They quoted some things that he said and the fact that he took the British side in the Irish war of independence.
Andrew, yes I agree, what motivates someone like this man? Maybe a genuine belief that he was doing a good service or perhaps a malevolent narcissism? I wonder if the truth is found somewhere between.
The Court of Appeal had to make a very tortuous case to uphold William Joyce's conviction, but they must have been aware that neither the government nor the public would have tolerated it had they let Joyce off on a technicality.
a lot certainly. Even as late as 1940 Halifax & others were still looking for a accommodation with Hitler. Churchill was a major figure who consistently through the late 30s warned of appeasement, and hence was called a 'warmonger' by many in authority.
@Uno G : What are you ? Are you a racist or what ? ""Most of the British aristocracy" ?? If you mean the effing class struggle aristocracy that was leading effing labour party and the effing unions which were ready to go to bed with Hitler and the Nazis at all times day and night, up and down, to and fro, all perv positions, with antisemitism deep in their veins as we all know, you have a point.
Along with our news papers like the mail and the silly ness of the queen’s mother doing a nazi salute with her daughters. Edward met hitler. The worker’s didn’t buy fascism and succeeded at cable street.
That’s is true, Hess arrived in Scotland to accept the surrender of UK and install Edward as King again, Hess was locked up and died in prison Yet took no part in any of the war, to hide the British Surrender being leaked
@@Sunshine-Light Are you sure about this? There are strong indications he had a peace offer which included a peace treaty with Britain and a withdrawal of all German troops from western Europe (after all beating France was the purpose of the whole campaign) and to Concentrate on Russia. If Churchill's people hadn't got to him first it would have succeeded as the rest of the government would have signed anything to get out of the war at that stage.
many thousands of Irish fought in WW1and WW2.thirty seven VCs were awarded to Irish divisions during that piece of insanity called WW1.nine went to the 36 Ulster division ,the others were awarded to the 10 and 16 Irish divisions.In ww2 5 vcs came back to Ireland,4 went south and the vc holder from Belfast was a Catholic from Majorca St in the lower Falls.Lest we forget.
Ireland was obviously neutral during WW2 yet 50,000 volunteered to fight and 250,000 worked helping the war effort. Members of the Irish Defence force deserted and joined the British armed services and were discriminated against after the war. They had their pensions stopped and were refused to hold government jobs. They weren't pardoned by the Irish government until 2013. I think they were truly brave people.
@@purtlemoirrey1161 How did they betray their country by fighting the Nazi's? Ireland was neutral but it's up to an individual if they want to fight fascism. It isn't going to harm the Irish army at all is it? The Germans attacked unarmed Irish merchant ships and killed Irish people too. Those soldiers did nothing to betray Ireland.
@@purtlemoirrey1161 What do you mean 'hypocrisy? I didn't even mention William Joyce. As it happens I myself don't think he did anything wrong. The reality is that he was seen as more of a joke than a threat. The Irish weren't traitors because Ireland was not in the war, the country was neutral. They weren't fighting their fellow countrymen. Many thousands of Irish people were murdered by the Germans. Unarmed Irish merchant ships were attacked all the time. A quarter of a million Irish worked in British factories helping with the war effort. Hitler and his beliefs were sick and evil and I praise everyone, especially those Germans themselves who fought it.
Mercy was in short supply just then. I think at some other time, for some similar treacherous activity, his death sentence may reasonably have been commuted to something less. I have no problem with the technicalities of the jurisdiction issue, the British had at least the moral right to try him, if not the legal one also.
Nuremberg 2.0 is right around the corner. But who will be overseeing it? Will it be the Nazis this time? Is that why these sellouts are obsessed with a man they're ancestors killed decades ago? Who won WWII?
I think you can work that one out for your self . who many people needed to see Justice as they defined it Joyce didn't have a fan club who wanted him? Killing the Dev would have not a good outcome.
How did he hurt England? Are you joking? Even the traitors who produced this rubbish said he had no effect, which means they murdered him just for the fun of it. Are those the kinds of people you support? It would explain why the world is the way it is today.
However, imagine if Nazi,s won. Days when folk had to choose. Finally, Germany lost because, the tide was against, a wicked regime. He was a Nazi supporter. Days when many of modern day Woke ism would never be tolerated. A lesson to be taken, that needs to be remembered.
The Labour government told the British people that bread rationing was being introduced to help feed the displaced people of Europe. Papers now publicly available in the National Records Office show that this was a lie. The reason was actually to save foreign currency that would have been used to pay for wheat imports. We don’t know what the money was used for , but other socialist governments spent large sums on imported luxuries for their cronies.
About 40% until the king came down against hitler according to an old documentary. I watched a long time ago now. I’m sorry I can’t remember the name. I remember it because I was so shocked that the rich in their stately homes favoured hitler. But changed their tune to be seen following the king.
He was Irish so why was he executed by the British, Ireland was neutral during the war. So entitled to back however he wanted, the Brits should have been taken to a war crimes court, I am Scots and think this was a travesty of justice, something we are used to now in the UK
Actually another man named Stewart ,who was obviously British ,who did much the same thing, was not put on trial..I think the Labour Party put him on trial because of his old activity in the British Union of Fascists..who had many street fights with Labour and various other Socialist and Communists groups...That's how he got that scar...If indeed he had taken German citizenship later -he then was not British..If he wasn't so full of himself he could have escaped but he actually approached a British patrol and started speaking English to them...
Whether he should have been hanged is a matter of opinion. He was largely regarded with amusement, and it seems that the law was interpreted in a somewhat flexible way.
Was this program made by Nazis? Lord Haw-Haw' purpose wasn't to undermine the resolve of England, it was to encourage the Germans. I've seen modern docs asking why Germany fought to the bitter end. This man played a part in that and is no less guilty than those at Nuremburg. I have twenty relatives who fought and they would have loved it if it had never happened.
@@jodypitt3629 He was born in America, Irish father, English mother. He grew up in Ireland but was pro British and worked with the British against Irish independence.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw His mother was born in Lancashire, England. An Anglo Irish Anglican family, which was the Protestant ascendancy, the colonisers of Ireland. With that background, born in the US, Irish father, English mother, he also had to leave Ireland because he was threatened by the old IRA because he was spying for the British pre Irish Independence. That's not an Irish person. It's misleading to claim it is.
I'm going to express a very unpopular opinion. He was murdered by the British Government. He had every right to leave when he did, two days before the declaration of war. He was right to leave, since he was about to become a victim of violence in England -- ie, illegal arrest via an unjust law. His arrest after the war was illegal. By then, he was a naturalized German. He had committed no war crimes. The "show trial" was an abomination that should be condemned by all. Please save your comments if you think I have any admiration forJoyce or the Nazi thugs whose cause he embraced. Nothing could be further from the truth. He was brainwashed idiot and, quite obviously, a "might makes right sociopath". I have no sympathy for him. I find his support of the British in Ireland more treacherous than his support for Germany after his departure from England. In a sense, there was some justice in his unlawful execution. He had supported, aided and abetted criminals in government much of his life. Being murdered by the same does have a certain ironic appeal to it.
Actually the documtary was factually incorrect, the 18b law wasn't passed until May 1940 so the police could not have had any powers to arrest him before the war .
@@chriswatkin6213 So, they made up stuff about the police showing up to arrest him two days after he left. It never surprises me anymore to find inaccuracies, outright lies and preposterous politically-inspired narratives being put forth as facts. I stopped being so naive as to accept the myth of a free press long ago. It doesn't change my opinion on the case. He was the victim of retribution. Once he did manage to leave, legally or not, he became a German, so calling it "treason" to actively support the cause of his adopted country is really quite a reach. If they arrested him for falsifying a passport and threw the book at him, under the law, for that crime, I'd say it was still a case of retribution, but one that he brought upon himself by so actively taking up the Nazi cause.
@@gowdsake71035 at best. Would have cured his alcoholism. And then release him in Cable Street or Golders Green on a Friday evening and see how many minutes it took before he got his head kicked in.
The British must have had some tacit approval by The Americans to arrest him and try him for treason as it seems The Britts needed American support at the end of the war.
If britain had have stayed neutral Like usa things may have been different Obviously play for time Build up defences and wait and see Attitude Not to be like ww1 and dive in the deep end
@@JohnIainMcFarlanewaspfactor Unfortunately the bef was sent to france not poland in spite of treaty no help was given Germany and russia carved it up between them
If Britain had waited too long, it might have too late. USSR, along with the whole of Europe, might have been fully subdued. Germany might have developed jet planes, cruise missiles and rockets more successfully and speedily. Ditto nuclear weapons. And then there was Japan to contend with.
Interesting programme. I'm disappointed that some of the gaps weren't explained, such as how did he manage to get such an influential role at the Nazi Propaganda Ministry? I think the British citizenship is clear cut. He assumed British identity via a falsely obtained passport and there was no dual nationality at the time. My only concern is what was actually treasonable about his broadcasts? Was he fomenting insurrection? Was he asking someone to shoot Churchill? Fraternising with the enemy isn't a treasonable offence. Ask the people near German POW camps during the war. I say this 70 years on, without being affected and scarred by the six years of war. So I do empathise with the final result overall.
If he had taken a rifle to take pot-shots at British soldiers on the battlefield, but missed every time, he would still be guilty of treason. The fact that his chosen weapon, propaganda by radio, was ineffectual is immaterial.
I'm not really sure what Manichean means but in this vid. Haw Haw is reported as saying that the world will (further) divide across the races. Well England , in many areas , is becoming decidedly blakk... is it not ! Being almost blown to pieces Germany has done very well economically...has it not !
He was born before independence, so he was a subject of the British monarch, even if he was Irish and entitled to a British passport as a result. However, I'm not sure if he could claim to be Irish under the rules that applied back then. He could now, having Irish born parents but I think that back then you had to have been born in the country to claim a passport.
Did you not listen? He applied for a British passport, telling lies in order to get one, which he was given in 1939. That passport meant he was under the protection of the Crown. That in turn meant that he owed allegiance to the Crown for at least the period that the passport was valid, which was one year. During that year he chose to give aid and comfort to the King's enemies. That made him guilty of treason for which he was hanged. It's really quite simple. If he had waited until his British passport had expired before working for the Nazis he probably wouldn't have been hanged. His own duplicity put the noose around his neck.
The Irish Republic was one of the neutral countries during the war, they didn't side with the Germans. For further proof see rolls of the dead. In spite of neutrality 3,600 Irish citizens from the Republic and about 4,000 Northern Irish men died serving in the British Army during WWII. These numbers don't include the many thousands of Irish who fought in the Canadian Armed Services, the American Armed Services, the Australian Armed Services, nor even those Irish men and women who were living in the U.K. prior to the start of the war, who joined up and served alongside their friends and neighbours. The numbers who served in the British army and died during the first world war were far greater. So despite a lot of anti-Irish behaviour from some sections of the British public throughout the 20th century, a lot of Irish men and women still volunteered (there was no conscription in Ireland) and paid the ultimate price serving in British regiments during both world wars. Not all Irish hated the 'english', (maybe you meant to say British), though God knows given the previous 800 years of (mis)treatment by them, many would say they had good cause to hate the 'English'. Perhaps history shows us the Irish were better than that.
@twin turbo : headline 'Lord Haw Haw buried in Ireland' . That's what you refer to "Irish hate(d) English". My response: Where else could Haw-Haw be buried but in Ireland ??? They wanted to have him by their side. End of (this short) story.
The Irish were described as Neutral on the side of the Allies. British and later American airmen who were shot down in Irish territory were returned to their bases. German airmen were held prisoner and interrogated, with any useful information delivered to the British Embassy. Information was also passed on about the whereabouts of German vessels. American and Canadian air craft were allowed fly over Ireland. Weather forecasts from Ireland were used when planning manoeuvres, including D Day. which would have been hit by a storm had it gone ahead when planned. One thing that you can't say about Ireland in WW2 with any honesty or accuracy is that it helped Germany.
Just think, he could’ve got a job improving the sub-title captions in these films.....surely Private Eye has had something to say about their farcical efforts! More seriously, he should/could/might have linked up with the IRA / Nazi « S » Plan to destroy English lives as in Coventry on 24 August 1939...before Göring ever even dreamed of adding a new verb to the German language...and before the Nazi Third Reich and the Bolshevik USSR conspired to destroy humiliate and destroy again poor Poland ....lest we forget the Russian and German mutual pleasure in putting their boots onto the Polish National face....and the IRA joined in this and De Valera too to boot, with his kissing the book of condolences....Why does this otherwise good if not very good yet devoid of excellence, alas...
@@musicman920 pffff, war time propaganda. When are people like you going to realize you've been lied to for political reasons. Look at England today. Do you honestly think the people who won the war did not have the same plans for you that they visited upon Germany? People like Joyce understood what the future would hold if the Allies won. Have you gotten your CV passport yet????
@@musicman920 Richard, you must face the fact that MOST English people at Joyce's time agreed with him on these issues. No man in England at that time would have been arrested for slapping his wife, disparaging homosexuals or thinking unkindly of Jewish people (the medical community said homosexuals were mentally ill). Joyce believed in the twenty 25 points of the NSDAP because he believed England would be better served by them than they would be by globalism. Also had Joyce disliked the Swedes or Turks would your indignation be as great as it seems about Jewish people?
@@musicman920 Really Richard? Were you alive then because if you weren't then you have been lied to. Wake up, almost everything you've been taught about the second world war is a lie. Churchill sold Great Britain down the river to the Focus Group for money to support his life style. Britain paid the lions share of Lend Lease so that Russia would betray the Soviet/German pack. He made paupers out of you, debt slaves to international finance. It took you 61 years to pay it off. Suckers. Joyce tried to save you.
He was drunk during his last broadcast. He knew the end was coming, and he knew he would be tried for treason if caught. Might as well have one more drink and bad mouth the Allies one last time.
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My mother was a land girl on a Scottish farm in WW2. One night when they were having their meal , Haw Haw, or Deutschland Sender as he called himself was on the radio saying that the people in Scotland were starving. The farmer who was a bit of a wag, put his steaming plate of mince and tatties up to the set and proclaimed " Starving are we? Smell that you bugger" 😄
Love to read about this, history from the people that were there.
During WW2, many working-class people had better diets than prewar
James, Thanks for sharing. Funny story.
@@sonnycorleone2602 My dear departed mum had a wealth of stories from her time on Rose Farm on the Black Isle. She was a sheltered middle class girl from Central Belt of Scotland. Her mother wouldn't let her join the WAFs cos she thought she would be at the mercy of randy army officers. 😄 I'm happy about that cos she met my dad , who was a local boy, at a dance when he was home on leave from the RAF.
@@jamesjack6769 Nice story about how your mum met your dad. :)
You choose your side and share the fate of the side you choose.
Yes but that still doesn't explain why his wife and fellow conspirators got off with minor sentences for doing the same thing , didn't they have British passports ? Very fishy.
Might is ALWAYS right, eh?
A lot of people who produced this mockumentary must be thinking the same thing.
@@dehoedisc7247 in War, petty much.
@@jimjones4816 Dude I can smell the crap spewing from your mouth from here.
Thanks for the information, for Joyce's accent I would never have twigged that he was an American, one learns something new all the time
Since the family moved back across the pond when he was three years old, I would doubt that he would have learned any type of American accent.
LOL, I guess that no English can fathom someone "English" hating England. But England will most likely pay for her mistake of murdering a righteous man for just making broadcasts. Is that the wonderful English freedumb of speech, or just more English canting. Wonder what will happen to those who work for the BBC when the shoe is on the other foot? I guarantee you the new regime will remember what they did to Lord Haw Haw, and how the inferiors called him names and murdered him.
@@jimjones4816 are you alright mate?
@@jimjones4816, righteous??? You've got weird understanding of right and wrong pal....
He left at the age of 3
Oooh! Instant sub from me! This looks good! I haven't even heard more than 2 minutes, but I just want to say good luck with Amazing Pudding! I am looking forward to future episodes with great anticipation of high quality and variety.
Tokyo Rose who broadcast to American troops, lived out her life post war in Chicago.
I had read she served 6 years in prison yet in 1976 she was granted a full pardon.
Well she was an American citizen who received a presidential pardon from Ford since there wasn't evidence to show she had behaved treasonously.
@@topologyrob There is evidence that she was actually following orders from an American Officer (POW) who told her to do what she had to do to survive. Her broadcasts were often corny and entertaining. She, like Lord Haw Haw had few negative responses from allied troops. They listened to her with great fun. When she trumpeted Japanese victories that US troops knew were defeats, she was telling us that what she was saying is what the Japanese people were hearing.
The legal point in his trial was that you dont actually have to be a British citizen to be a traitor. If you are someone who "owes allegiance to the crown" then you can betray the crown. So for example someone serving in british uniform who was not a citizen (which was possible in world war 2) owed allegiance to the crown and could be a traitor. Joyce was travelling on a British passport, however he gained it, by using it he was claiming the protection of the crown which meant he owed it allegiance. It's a technical point, but since both his parents were british and he had never applied for an American passport everything was technical. As Talleyrand said, "Treason is largely a matter of dates."
Totally agree with you.
Thank you. You've explained it better than I've come across before and it makes sense now.
So what ? his wife had a British passport and all his colleagues, why weren't they hanged for treason and what about the British citizens who joined the Nazi SS ?
@@chriswatkin6213 Didnt say it was right or logical, just explaining the point. I'm not sure exactly what happened to Margaret Joyce, but she certainly supported her husband all the way. Several of the British Free Corps men were convicted by courts martial of aiding the enemy while a POW and dont forget John Amery, the founder of the BFC, was actually hanged as a traitor just like Joyce.
But did he ever claim 'protection of the crown' using that passport? Surely his intent was simply to use it to enter Germany? How is that claiming protection?
How did he hurt England? Even the traitors who produced this rubbish said he had no effect, which means they murdered him just for the fun of it. Are those the kinds of people you support? It would explain why the world is the way it is today.
My whole family myself included listened to him regulary, he was to us and my boyhood friends, just a figure of fun. We mocked him. One thing for sure he had no effect on British moral.
He got what he deserved.
Shameful, he was murdered
Yep, if the legal system didn't get him he would have gone the same way as Himmler in any event.
I stand to be corrected, but I think that at one time his speeches were broadcast from the powerful Radio Luxembourg transmitter that was at the time in the hands of the Nazis.
@@Sunshine-Light He was traitor
@@dalechetto9692 That he was, spewed nazi propaganda for 5 years & thought he could get away with it, no matter which coat he wore. If history was reversed he would still have gone the same way. (German/Swiss passport batting for Britain with an axis victory)
Teach your children there are things you do and things you don't do. It will keep them out of the dock. William Joyce was Hanged - 1946
Well if people taught there children what they should they wouldn't be running around stabbing each other there are no severe punishments that's the problem
@@fs410 If people taught *their* children......! The possessive *their* should've been used in that sentence. Education standards have sunk to a dismal low standard if people cannot use the correct spelling of a word for a specific meaning.
Or teach your children to become Communists and sell secrets to Russia, they could get a Knighthood.
yeah, teach your children that if you go on radio or TV and espouse views that Nazis don't like, if they take power some day, you'll end up like Lord Haw Haw, LMAO
Getting a judgement at all costs, Julian Asange might have an opinion about that.
Joyce's last drunken broadcast was never actually broadcast by the Nazis.
They must have found it inappropriate considering the circumstances. What they considered appropriate , genocide and all the rest seems to be been a completely different matter .
Yeah, you were there I suppose, LOL. So they recorded it but didn't broadcast it? Will BBC talking head bimbos go on the air drunk when democracy comes to an end?
With a US passport he could have been tried for treason in New York instead. That trial would have gone at a breakneck pace too. His neck. Spending decades on death row seems to be a modern phenomenon.
Exactly. just a few years later they wasted no time executing the Rosenbergs for passing atomic secrets to the Russians, despite those secrets being already known and publicly available in NYU University library if you knew where to look. The FBI wanted a confession from Julius or Ethel and they would have halted the execution immediately, but they were committed to communism and wanted to martyr themselves. They should have saved themselves. they would have been released soon after and maybe swapped for spies to live out their days in Moscow.
Agreed. This "documentary" is trying to blame Haw Haw for his own death rather than on the people who murdered him. That means that you can kill someone for broadcasting the wrong thing if a new regime takes over. This will probably have ramifications in the future, as democracy is finished. The reason Haw Haw is still talked about is that the descendants of his murderers understand the implications of killing someone for being a broadcaster.
@@jimjones4816 when in war, this is call aiding the enemy, it’s call treason.
@King Royal In which case he got hanged for lying on his passport application. Now that IS harsh. You COULD argue that the UK passport was invalid to start with as it was obtained using false pretences (nationality claims). A false document could not carry an obligation of loyalty to the king. Anybody else would have been fined and the passport cancelled in retrospect. But he was Lord Haw Haw and they didn't see the joke. They would have found a technicality if he had a US passport instead. Declared the naturalization invalid.while the passport was in issue or something..
Indeed it is. A modern aberration.
Executed as a reminder for the traitors of today on what they have coming, from top to bottom. No stone unturned.
He wasn't a traitor.
@@jamesoneill5070 time will tell when the full truth is known. But my point still stands. Treason is a capitol offence. So those who have betrayed us, from top to bottom, know exactly what to expect.
On the other hand,being a sort of double agent by alerting the Irisk,the British were also alerted.and alerting the Germans th enemies of Ermany were also alerted? I think he should have been given a Knighthood
Tracking them down, are you?
@@dehoedisc7247 when Lawful Rebellion in full turns things around, all traitors from top to bottom will be rounded up and dealt with in accordance with our Constitution. Treason act applies. Plain and simple.
We know all about pressure on judges, even supreme court judges. Look no further than the recent ignoring of Pennsylvania election law by judges fearful of ridicule by the media or concern for the safety of themselves and their families. They did not want BLM or Antifa types standing on their front porches. Joyce knew himself to be a traitor despite the fig leaf of an American birth certificate. Germany loses the war...Joyce knew the consequences of his behaviour as early as 1939. This does not excuse the British kangaroo courts of 1945 that ignored paperwork technicalities like passports and birth certificates. The statements made by Joyce about American armed forces would have earned him 15 years in prison for treason in America, but the British wanted revenge.
Pillock.
@@ceciljohnrhodes4987 Are you referring to William Joyce or Cecil Rhodes, perhaps the former AND the latter?
You lost. Get over it.
@@djb3500 And when you lose, you will get over it too
It's the one near Broadway a large road that runs through New Moston and Failsworth into Oldham , I think I read it in the book about Joyce.
There wasn't only one Lord Haw-Haw. It was said to have been used to describe another person named Norman Baillie-Stewart originally and then used as a moniker for a number of English speaking German propaganda broadcasters. There was one that had the nickname 'Sinister Sam'.
I am afraid this is a hair splitting canard.The Two Leslie's were singing about William Joyce and using this name.Their satire the Humbug from Hamburg was clearly not directed at anyone else. In Germany they called Joyce Doctor Froehlich.
Well, they murdered one of them!
Germany calling here are the Reichssender Hamburg Station Bremen and Station DXB on the thirty one metre band You are about to hear our news in English...
P G Wodehouse is supposed to have broadcast for the Germans though in a way hardly comparable with Joyce. Despite the fact they did not allow him a knighthood people like Malcolm Muggeridge found no fault in him. I've never managed to find out what was broadcast or why he ever really did it.
You can download his book for free on the internet. It's called Twilight Over England. It truly is twilight time for England.
Born of British parents he was entitled to automatic British citizenship under laws of the time.
Correct. That's why I have an Irish passport and free movement in the EU.
He was more British than anything. But it's totally cowardly of them to blame his death on the passport he chose! They would have murdered him anyway, most likely, or put him in a mental institution. He wasn't the only Nazi sympathizer to be murdered after the war by the all loving liberals.
Sherlock Holmes and the voice of terror !!!
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@@tomflendodo7297 thank you
The worst of the 14 films.
William Joyce's last words before his execution: "I am proud to die for my ideals and I am sorry for the sons of Britain who have died without knowing why."
He got what he deserved. Fuck fascists
@@garfieldmatthewson5169 See why Churchill supported fascism.
@@garfieldmatthewson5169 World War II was not anti-fascist.
@@garfieldmatthewson5169 Churchill praised fascism.
The wheel will not stop turning.
Joyce would be an honoured senior BBC tv presenter today, sitting alone ngside other traitors like Maitless and that woman with that awful Scotch rasping voice.
Japan Had Tokyo Rose
Ireland had the IRA.
For what it is worth, Tokyo Rose did not broadcast willingly. Refusal would have been ultimately fatal.
geez i want some of what hes on around 2:15
I enjoyed this account,
What a great man. He'll get his revenge just yet. Thanks for posting.
Churchill was the real traitor.
❤and respect from Iran…RIP, hero!
Respect to William Joyce and you, from the USA! The Iranians are a great people.
@@stormrider1375 Thank you, as are the people of the West.
May he burn in hell. He's no hero
@@garfieldmatthewson5169 shouldn’t you be at a pride parade which your grandfather’s generation fought and died for?
@@mountainbiker8904 The Allies persecuted homosexuals.
An American who falsely aquires a British Passport makes themselves subject to British Justice so he was a traitor to both, he "took up arms" for the enemy and was hanged for his actions. He betrayed anyone to suit himself, he got what traitors got, and still should. Justice done.
Not really! You even admit he was American... according to British law, then and now, British nationality is null and void if obtained by deception... and an American citizen cannot commit treason to the British Crown because they are not British subjects.... hence William Joyce, whatever one may think of his actions and political convictions as a Fascist and National Socialist, was illegally murdered under false legal pretences simply out of revenge and anger... British Justice indeed... more like the Wild West. Just because someone isn't "liked" doesn't mean he or she should be denied fair trial.... and that includes Jack the Ripper, as far as I'm concerned.
Totally agree. All broadcasters should get a death sentence for being politically incorrect. Could you imagine the bloodbath that would occur if the Nazis took over tomorrow? That's a lot of "traitors" in the BBC. They better hope this democracy lasts or a lot of heads will be on the chopping block. The Nazi powers that be might turn against the idiot masses who murder a man for broadcasting an opinion.
Joyce had never legally possessed a British passport.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw Correct, he had a forged one, but as the Yanks wanted him gone too, they did not push the point and he got what he deserved. Commit treason in wartime you get topped, and he was a traitor to "The Allies"
Fascinating story and comments.
Talk about picking the wrong team.
I've little sympathy for the man, but having picked the wrong side, I doubt if he could do much about it in practical terms, even if he wanted to, as he was in the clutches of the Nazis. They would have dealt with him themselves if he didn't play ball.
@@wordsmith52 very true, unless your in that persons situation its really impossible to judge, some people who were treated as traitors were being threatened by the nazis, IE do this for us or your family will be sent to the camps and if you do this you will be fed and live, OK no this guy but many people in occupied Europe were given Hobsons choice, woman who worked as cleaners, cooks, admin staff were treated terribly after the end on WW2, for what, surviving and putting their families first, some of the retributions in France and Poland were as bad as the nazis, worse in some cases, all forgotten now, did we learn anything from WW2, I don't think so.
@@wordsmith52 Did he ever offer that in mitigation? That would have been a viable line of defence. But I don't think it would have been successful.
@@PORRRIDGE_GUN No, I don't think so either. I suppose attitudes and thinking must have been different to ours (from the comfort of our keyboards). He went to Germany in the first place and gambled on the Nazis winning. Just doing that was enough to remove any vestige of sympathy for many people. But who knows what was really going through his head entirely, especially as he (along with thousands of others) appeared to be suffering from alcoholism and possibly egomania.
He's buried here in Galway, Ireland. Bohermore cemetery close to town.
Yes I know. His mother is buried in a cemetery near me in Manchester.
@@amazingpudding6359 Do you know where in Manchester she's buried?
Was up before Christmas doing the grave of a family member , where in the grave yard is his grave so I can have a look next time im up?
@@irishgraff1 Through the main gate and its immediately on the left hand side in the main gathering of graves. It's in about the middle. A nondescript, forlorn grave with a white cross.
Not at first. After his execution at HMP Wandsworth (by Albert Pierrepoint who noted that Joyce's scar split open!) he was buried there in an unmarked grave as a self declared Anglican. Despite this he was exhumed in 1976 & reburied in Galway as a Papist. This process was paid for partly by the Irish Government after a private appeal raised insufficient funds. There you go.
He clothed himself in the Union Jack as all fascists would have done...
To me he sounds a lot like Churchill...... and I agree he should of faced some kind of trial for his actions during the War. Two weeks later is not rushed, or maybe it is if your a lawyer. Strange odd man, justice was served.
3 Sundays was the usual period.
@@PORRRIDGE_GUN That was my only problem with this entire situation. If you're going to execute a man, that it should be done correctly at under the rule of law. It should have been three weeks, not two.
like CNN BBC and Euronews today
If alive today. He would be working for MSMBC.
He works for fox
Or UKIP/TBP/Reform UK or whatever the fuck Farage calls his charabanc of hate today.
Today if he worked for the BBC, he would end up in the house of lords with a knighthood.
So true !!
Iam surprised the BBC don't have a statue of him outside broadcasting House.
If my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. So what.
If the Luftwaffe had bombed my neighborhood and vaporized my friends and family, I would be in no mood to pore over technicalities.
What about the hundreds of thousands of german civilian murdered by bombers
@brasspick: 'technicalities', do you mean the 'law' ? Thats why the laws are there, in times when one side is gunning for revenge due to losses they have suffered, the laws are there to protect the 'innocent until proven guilty' people, you know - 'British Justice', best and fairest justice system in the world, that everyone is told as they are growing up. He humiliated them during the war with his words, when it was over they were going to exact their revenge, that's why they rushed ahead with his execution.
@@twinturbo8304 Go back to sleep, dumb nuts. Say that to the millions killed unarmed in the concentration camps.
Bobbirdbrain. So two wrongs make aright?
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It is not in vain GOD placed the sword in the hand of the King.
Books of wisdom/ The Bible
Self defense of home or nation
Is not murder, capital punishment is
With in the kings authority.
Treason calls for the death penalty.
Questions surrounding his nationality are interesting, but what were the man's beliefs? I find him fascinating.
I read an article on his life some years back and it claimed that he saw himself as British. They quoted some things that he said and the fact that he took the British side in the Irish war of independence.
Andrew, yes I agree, what motivates someone like this man? Maybe a genuine belief that he was doing a good service or perhaps a malevolent narcissism? I wonder if the truth is found somewhere between.
@@Relay300 Not much evidence of narcissism, malevolent or otherwise; plenty, however, of strong beliefs and high ideals.
@@andrewhoward7200 I’m not sure I agree but perhaps I’m wrong. I refute Godwin’s Law and thank you for replying 🙂
You find Adams McGuinness fascinating as well ? The Krays Hindley ?
The Court of Appeal had to make a very tortuous case to uphold William Joyce's conviction, but they must have been aware that neither the government nor the public would have tolerated it had they let Joyce off on a technicality.
I seem to recall that in the late 30's most of the British aristocracy was all over the Nazis like a rash.
a lot certainly. Even as late as 1940 Halifax & others were still looking for a accommodation with Hitler. Churchill was a major figure who consistently through the late 30s warned of appeasement, and hence was called a 'warmonger' by many in authority.
@Uno G : What are you ? Are you a racist or what ? ""Most of the British aristocracy" ?? If you mean the effing class struggle aristocracy that was leading effing labour party and the effing unions which were ready to go to bed with Hitler and the Nazis at all times day and night, up and down, to and fro, all perv positions, with antisemitism deep in their veins as we all know, you have a point.
Along with our news papers like the mail and the silly ness of the queen’s mother doing a nazi salute with her daughters. Edward met hitler. The worker’s didn’t buy fascism and succeeded at cable street.
That’s is true, Hess arrived in Scotland to accept the surrender of UK and install Edward as King again, Hess was locked up and died in prison
Yet took no part in any of the war, to hide the British Surrender being leaked
@@Sunshine-Light Are you sure about this? There are strong indications he had a peace offer which included a peace treaty with Britain and a withdrawal of all German troops from western Europe (after all beating France was the purpose of the whole campaign) and to Concentrate on Russia. If Churchill's people hadn't got to him first it would have succeeded as the rest of the government would have signed anything to get out of the war at that stage.
many thousands of Irish fought in WW1and WW2.thirty seven VCs were awarded to Irish divisions during that piece of insanity called WW1.nine went to the 36 Ulster division ,the others were awarded to the 10 and 16 Irish divisions.In ww2 5 vcs came back to Ireland,4 went south and the vc holder from Belfast was a Catholic from Majorca St in the lower Falls.Lest we forget.
Ireland was obviously neutral during WW2 yet 50,000 volunteered to fight and 250,000 worked helping the war effort. Members of the Irish Defence force deserted and joined the British armed services and were discriminated against after the war. They had their pensions stopped and were refused to hold government jobs. They weren't pardoned by the Irish government until 2013. I think they were truly brave people.
@@rexterrocks so it’s ok for thousands to betray their country but not haw haw hmm little bit of hypocrisy in your post
@@purtlemoirrey1161 How did they betray their country by fighting the Nazi's? Ireland was neutral but it's up to an individual if they want to fight fascism. It isn't going to harm the Irish army at all is it? The Germans attacked unarmed Irish merchant ships and killed Irish people too. Those soldiers did nothing to betray Ireland.
@@rexterrocks they fought the brits your so thick you must english
@@purtlemoirrey1161 What do you mean 'hypocrisy? I didn't even mention William Joyce. As it happens I myself don't think he did anything wrong. The reality is that he was seen as more of a joke than a threat. The Irish weren't traitors because Ireland was not in the war, the country was neutral. They weren't fighting their fellow countrymen. Many thousands of Irish people were murdered by the Germans. Unarmed Irish merchant ships were attacked all the time. A quarter of a million Irish worked in British factories helping with the war effort. Hitler and his beliefs were sick and evil and I praise everyone, especially those Germans themselves who fought it.
Haw haw haw...
Mercy was in short supply just then. I think at some other time, for some similar treacherous activity, his death sentence may reasonably have been commuted to something less. I have no problem with the technicalities of the jurisdiction issue, the British had at least the moral right to try him, if not the legal one also.
Nuremberg 2.0 is right around the corner. But who will be overseeing it? Will it be the Nazis this time? Is that why these sellouts are obsessed with a man they're ancestors killed decades ago? Who won WWII?
He sounds drunk
Haha OK 👌 😅
He was !
Eeeeennnd ayyyeee was vewwy vewwy. Dwunk.
He was a traitor. The most painful part of this recording is the bleeding heart liberals arguing over the niceties.
So was his wife but she got about 12 months and died in London in 1971.
He was not a traitor, he was no longer a citizen of the UK. He gave up his citizenship before the war.
@@hughjohnson2674, a technicality. Traitor to the UK or the USA. Doesn't matter. He got what he deserved.
@@thechatteringmagpie Joyce had never been a British subject.
Just want to know how come being born in America saved eamon de valera from being executed by the British and not joyce
I think you can work that one out for your self . who many people needed to see Justice as they defined it Joyce didn't have a fan club who wanted him? Killing the Dev would have not a good outcome.
The UK was trying to get the United States to join World War I in 1916.
Britain did not stand alone. Many indigenous peoples in their naivety were dragged in to the empire of war of Britain.
A traitor, a wanna be 'important" at the expense of a country and its people.
How did he hurt England? Are you joking? Even the traitors who produced this rubbish said he had no effect, which means they murdered him just for the fun of it. Are those the kinds of people you support? It would explain why the world is the way it is today.
While I have no sympathy for the man, the winner makes the rules!!
He probably wouldn't have sympathy for people who had no sympathy for him. You fight for your own enslavement, LOL.
No, he was a British citizen judged by a British court according to British law. What’s « winner’s rule » got to do with it ?
@@davidnavarro4821 He had never been a British subject at any stage during his life.
His trial was illegal as he was not British.
Anyone know how he was hung for treason when he wasn't British he was Irish!
However, imagine if Nazi,s won. Days when folk had to choose. Finally, Germany lost because, the tide was against, a wicked regime. He was a Nazi supporter. Days when many of modern day Woke ism would never be tolerated. A lesson to be taken, that needs to be remembered.
He was Irish/American. I have no doubt he was hanged because the powers that be feared retribution by anti-Nazi groups.
What a maniac awesome 😂😂😂
how come he was executed and not axis sally and tokyo rose who were also american citizens??
I don’t think that bread was ever on ration in the U.K. ( I stand corrected ? )during the war ?
I had my parents' ration books as a kid. You are correct. You are wrong!
I think that bread was only rationed after the war in the late 1940s. That's what caused so much dismay and annoyance.
Bread rationing started in July 1946
@@wordsmith52 l was evacuated to Nottingham and they baked their own bread, l will never forget the smell of home baked bread in the house!!
The Labour government told the British people that bread rationing was being introduced to help feed the displaced people of Europe. Papers now publicly available in the National Records Office show that this was a lie. The reason was actually to save foreign currency that would have been used to pay for wheat imports. We don’t know what the money was used for , but other socialist governments spent large sums on imported luxuries for their cronies.
Deserved all he got as a traitor supporting an evil regime
Joyce was hanged because he made a false statement when applying for a passport for which the penalty should have been a small fine.
I love this guy's posh accent.
A traitor - what a mistaka to maka!
He was no traitor.
It wasnt just him that should have been brought to account, alot of the aristocrasy had nazi sympathies.
What's an alot?
About 40% until the king came down against hitler according to an old documentary. I watched a long time ago now. I’m sorry I can’t remember the name. I remember it because I was so shocked that the rich in their stately homes favoured hitler. But changed their tune to be seen following the king.
Including the abdicated king
Still do
Oh come on our so called royal family ARE German
He sounded inroxicated during his final broadcast.
He was very intoxicated.
@@rickjones7977 typo
@@rickjones7977 He was just tired.
Should anyone care about him?
If America doesn't wake up soon...
Like it though when he warned the Irish to leave Birmingham in advance of a German carpet bombing of that city
He was Irish so why was he executed by the British, Ireland was neutral during the war. So entitled to back however he wanted, the Brits should have been taken to a war crimes court, I am Scots and think this was a travesty of justice, something we are used to now in the UK
Ireland was bound by the King's declaration of war.
Actually another man named Stewart ,who was obviously British ,who did much the same thing, was not put on trial..I think the Labour Party put him on trial because of his old activity in the British Union of Fascists..who had many street fights with Labour and various other Socialist and Communists groups...That's how he got that scar...If indeed he had taken German citizenship later -he then was not British..If he wasn't so full of himself he could have escaped but he actually approached a British patrol and started speaking English to them...
No matter the legal 'niceties' Joyce was going to be convicted it was a show trial period
It had to happen, regardless of the legality of it.
He was a symbol of Nazism and needed to be made an example of.
He talks very much like Churchill. Both from the same background.
Same background ? Are you mad Churchill was an aristocrat descended from The Duke of Marlborough, try reading a history book.
Whether he should have been hanged is a matter of opinion. He was largely regarded with amusement, and it seems that the law was interpreted in a somewhat flexible way.
Who murders "an amusement?" Why do you talk so flippantly about a great man? Don't drink the Kool-Aid.
Was this program made by Nazis? Lord Haw-Haw' purpose wasn't to undermine the resolve of England, it was to encourage the Germans. I've seen modern docs asking why Germany fought to the bitter end. This man played a part in that and is no less guilty than those at Nuremburg. I have twenty relatives who fought and they would have loved it if it had never happened.
William Joyce was Irish, not American
Listen to the programme. All is explained.
@@ruadhagainagaidheal9398 Ok Rogan I shall
@@jodypitt3629
He was born in America, Irish father, English mother.
He grew up in Ireland but was pro British and worked with the British against Irish independence.
@@roisinmalone3015 His mother was Anglo-Irish.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw
His mother was born in Lancashire, England. An Anglo Irish Anglican family, which was the Protestant ascendancy, the colonisers of Ireland.
With that background, born in the US, Irish father, English mother, he also had to leave Ireland because he was threatened by the old IRA because he was spying for the British pre Irish Independence.
That's not an Irish person. It's misleading to claim it is.
I'm going to express a very unpopular opinion. He was murdered by the British Government. He had every right to leave when he did, two days before the declaration of war. He was right to leave, since he was about to become a victim of violence in England -- ie, illegal arrest via an unjust law. His arrest after the war was illegal. By then, he was a naturalized German. He had committed no war crimes. The "show trial" was an abomination that should be condemned by all.
Please save your comments if you think I have any admiration forJoyce or the Nazi thugs whose cause he embraced. Nothing could be further from the truth. He was brainwashed idiot and, quite obviously, a "might makes right sociopath". I have no sympathy for him. I find his support of the British in Ireland more treacherous than his support for Germany after his departure from England. In a sense, there was some justice in his unlawful execution. He had supported, aided and abetted criminals in government much of his life. Being murdered by the same does have a certain ironic appeal to it.
I tend to agree with you while I find him vile and repellent his crime at most warranted maybe a year or 2 in jail
Actually the documtary was factually incorrect, the 18b law wasn't passed until May 1940 so the police could not have had any powers to arrest him before the war .
@@chriswatkin6213 So, they made up stuff about the police showing up to arrest him two days after he left. It never surprises me anymore to find inaccuracies, outright lies and preposterous politically-inspired narratives being put forth as facts. I stopped being so naive as to accept the myth of a free press long ago.
It doesn't change my opinion on the case. He was the victim of retribution. Once he did manage to leave, legally or not, he became a German, so calling it "treason" to actively support the cause of his adopted country is really quite a reach. If they arrested him for falsifying a passport and threw the book at him, under the law, for that crime, I'd say it was still a case of retribution, but one that he brought upon himself by so actively taking up the Nazi cause.
Agreed.
@@gowdsake71035 at best. Would have cured his alcoholism. And then release him in Cable Street or Golders Green on a Friday evening and see how many minutes it took before he got his head kicked in.
WW2 was fought to make the world safe for the Banking Cartel looting operation.
The British must have had some tacit approval by The Americans to arrest him and try him for treason as it seems The Britts needed American support at the end of the war.
I doubt the Americans gave a damn what happened to him
How ironic for a propagandist video to be on a TH-cam censoring format. LMFAO
If britain had have stayed neutral
Like usa things may have been different
Obviously play for time
Build up defences and wait and see
Attitude
Not to be like ww1 and dive in the deep end
Britain had no choice.Treatys with Poland,remember.Also stood alone for 2 yrs.Im proud of my country and its actions at the time.You wait,we fight.
@@JohnIainMcFarlanewaspfactor
Unfortunately the bef was sent to france not poland in spite of treaty no help was given
Germany and russia carved it up between them
@@JohnIainMcFarlanewaspfactor
Yeah, Britain sure kept those promises of securing an independent Poland, didn't she?
@@gregorymalchuk272 you yanks over ruled us.
If Britain had waited too long, it might have too late. USSR, along with the whole of Europe, might have been fully subdued. Germany might have developed jet planes, cruise missiles and rockets more successfully and speedily. Ditto nuclear weapons. And then there was Japan to contend with.
James O Brian
James O'Brien what?
@@PORRRIDGE_GUN James O'Brien is today's version of Lord Haw Haw. Anti British propaganda and hatred towards the British people.
Except of course Hitler did not commit suicide in his bunker in Berlin.
Whatever, he never made a comeback, did he?
@@PORRRIDGE_GUN Yes.
Good man. Respect and rest in peace. God bless Alabama. 🇺🇲
Sounds just like William Buckley.
Interesting programme. I'm disappointed that some of the gaps weren't explained, such as how did he manage to get such an influential role at the Nazi Propaganda Ministry? I think the British citizenship is clear cut. He assumed British identity via a falsely obtained passport and there was no dual nationality at the time. My only concern is what was actually treasonable about his broadcasts? Was he fomenting insurrection? Was he asking someone to shoot Churchill? Fraternising with the enemy isn't a treasonable offence. Ask the people near German POW camps during the war. I say this 70 years on, without being affected and scarred by the six years of war. So I do empathise with the final result overall.
If he had taken a rifle to take pot-shots at British soldiers on the battlefield, but missed every time, he would still be guilty of treason. The fact that his chosen weapon, propaganda by radio, was ineffectual is immaterial.
@@RadioJonophone That's stretching the point. Like his neck.
He was not a British subject.
I'm not really sure what Manichean means but in this vid. Haw Haw is reported as saying that the world will (further) divide across the races.
Well England , in many areas , is becoming decidedly blakk... is it not !
Being almost blown to pieces Germany has done very well economically...has it not !
Divvy.
@@liamhackett513
me big deep thinka living in me wigwam !
I think he definitely chose the wrong side in the war.
Hardly. Look at Europe now.
Don't like it myself, but I wouldn't have wanted to see the side he believed in to have won the war.
@@David-vx4mx Europe would still be European, and China and Russia would not be threatening the West.
@Jeremy-y1t Always the same,nasty,cruel world, as it always will be.
@@David-vx4mx At least there would be no genocide in the Middle East.
He sounds like a cbc reporter.
Actually he was Irish , not a British citizen - so not actually a traitor !
He was born before independence, so he was a subject of the British monarch, even if he was Irish and entitled to a British passport as a result. However, I'm not sure if he could claim to be Irish under the rules that applied back then. He could now, having Irish born parents but I think that back then you had to have been born in the country to claim a passport.
Did you not listen? He applied for a British passport, telling lies in order to get one, which he was given in 1939. That passport meant he was under the protection of the Crown. That in turn meant that he owed allegiance to the Crown for at least the period that the passport was valid, which was one year. During that year he chose to give aid and comfort to the King's enemies. That made him guilty of treason for which he was hanged. It's really quite simple.
If he had waited until his British passport had expired before working for the Nazis he probably wouldn't have been hanged. His own duplicity put the noose around his neck.
@@sirderam1 Thank you. 100% agree. Listen to the doc before commenting.
@@memisemyself Joyce had never been a British subject.
The original indian scammer
He didn't get a proper British Traitors death. They were too lenient with him.
He wasn't British.
the killers are proud of their crime... and repeat it,, repeat it...
Can't beat the sozzled Es lebe Deutschland...
Irish hated english sided with germans
The Irish Republic was one of the neutral countries during the war, they didn't side with the Germans. For further proof see rolls of the dead. In spite of neutrality 3,600 Irish citizens from the Republic and about 4,000 Northern Irish men died serving in the British Army during WWII. These numbers don't include the many thousands of Irish who fought in the Canadian Armed Services, the American Armed Services, the Australian Armed Services, nor even those Irish men and women who were living in the U.K. prior to the start of the war, who joined up and served alongside their friends and neighbours. The numbers who served in the British army and died during the first world war were far greater. So despite a lot of anti-Irish behaviour from some sections of the British public throughout the 20th century, a lot of Irish men and women still volunteered (there was no conscription in Ireland) and paid the ultimate price serving in British regiments during both world wars. Not all Irish hated the 'english', (maybe you meant to say British), though God knows given the previous 800 years of (mis)treatment by them, many would say they had good cause to hate the 'English'. Perhaps history shows us the Irish were better than that.
@twin turbo : headline 'Lord Haw Haw buried in Ireland' . That's what you refer to "Irish hate(d) English". My response: Where else could Haw-Haw be buried but in Ireland ??? They wanted to have him by their side. End of (this short) story.
No. It was Jews Joyce hated.
The Irish were described as Neutral on the side of the Allies. British and later American airmen who were shot down in Irish territory were returned to their bases. German airmen were held prisoner and interrogated, with any useful information delivered to the British Embassy. Information was also passed on about the whereabouts of German vessels. American and Canadian air craft were allowed fly over Ireland. Weather forecasts from Ireland were used when planning manoeuvres, including D Day. which would have been hit by a storm had it gone ahead when planned.
One thing that you can't say about Ireland in WW2 with any honesty or accuracy is that it helped Germany.
Not all of them...
Just think, he could’ve got a job improving the sub-title captions in these films.....surely Private Eye has had something to say about their farcical efforts! More seriously, he should/could/might have linked up with the IRA / Nazi « S » Plan to destroy English lives as in Coventry on 24 August 1939...before Göring ever even dreamed of adding a new verb to the German language...and before the Nazi Third Reich and the Bolshevik USSR conspired to destroy humiliate and destroy again poor Poland ....lest we forget the Russian and German mutual pleasure in putting their boots onto the Polish National face....and the IRA joined in this and De Valera too to boot, with his kissing the book of condolences....Why does this otherwise good if not very good yet devoid of excellence, alas...
So much for free speech!!
William Joyce was a patriot, Churchill wasn't fit to shine his shoes.
@@musicman920 pffff, war time propaganda. When are people like you going to realize you've been lied to for political reasons. Look at England today. Do you honestly think the people who won the war did not have the same plans for you that they visited upon Germany? People like Joyce understood what the future would hold if the Allies won. Have you gotten your CV passport yet????
@@musicman920 actually the Nazis were very pro Islam and it was Hitler's favourite religion.
@@musicman920 Richard, you must face the fact that MOST English people at Joyce's time agreed with him on these issues. No man in England at that time would have been arrested for slapping his wife, disparaging homosexuals or thinking unkindly of Jewish people (the medical community said homosexuals were mentally ill). Joyce believed in the twenty 25 points of the NSDAP because he believed England would be better served by them than they would be by globalism. Also had Joyce disliked the Swedes or Turks would your indignation be as great as it seems about Jewish people?
@@musicman920 Really Richard? Were you alive then because if you weren't then you have been lied to. Wake up, almost everything you've been taught about the second world war is a lie. Churchill sold Great Britain down the river to the Focus Group for money to support his life style. Britain paid the lions share of Lend Lease so that Russia would betray the Soviet/German pack. He made paupers out of you, debt slaves to international finance. It took you 61 years to pay it off. Suckers. Joyce tried to save you.
You need to be referred to a Prevent program. I bet your hard drive could put you in prison.
He sounds drunk
He was drunk.
He sounds drunk.
By 1945, most of the Nazi hierarchy were pretty much constantly drunk.
He was drunk during his last broadcast. He knew the end was coming, and he knew he would be tried for treason if caught. Might as well have one more drink and bad mouth the Allies one last time.
@@muttley8818 He was just tired.