Reflecting on the Sly Cooper Franchise
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 มี.ค. 2022
- With rumors floating around mentioning that Sly Cooper may be on its way to the PlayStation 5, it is time to reflect. This is one of my all time favorite video game franchises as you fill the shoes of Sly Cooper, thieving your way through various locales with the help of Bentley and Murray. The writing is criminally underrated, the gameplay design is impeccable, and that art style has aged wonderfully.
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If you notice the manuals from 1-3 gets more worn and decrepit as a design as the series progresses showing time is passing between this trilogy and its like the manual is getting older with time as well. Very well designed and a fun tidbit for those who got all three games originally
Well if nothing comes of the Sly 5 rumors, I'm currently developing a non-profit fan-made Sly 5 for the Dreams-PS5 engine 🙂. It's called Cooper: Court of Thieves! The Sly legacy shall live on one way or another! 😁
How’s the progress going on your game? Been following you for a while!
Great to see you here!
@@Splicer87 Oh yeah, hey! I keep up on the Sly content 😆
@@daphodyl3839 Going great for the most part! Currently working on a grand reveal of the game's first world 😁
@@damselinteractive6960 I can’t wait to see it!
Sly 2 was the best IMO. Amazing step up from part 1, amazingly varied gameplay. Sly 3 was great as well.
I was disappointed in PS3’s Sly 4. Didn’t feel as good, humor and story were meh.
Most definitely, the only thing I didn't like in Sly 2 was that we couldn't replay missions after completing the game like in Sly 3 and 4, and the fact that Clockwerk never really returned it was just Neyla in his body
@@elharvey5032 well actually you can replay missions through cheat codes that lets you replay days in it
my opinion exactly
You didn't notice that the Thievious Raccones manual got more beat up in each game so that's a nice detail for a game manual.
Love this series, they were my childhood man. Hoping we get another sly game soon or at least a remaster or port of the collection to current consoles
I was a game designer on Thieves in Time. We worked our asses off on that game and I only wish we'd gotten some better marketing to let people know about it. Thanks for the shout out!
No amount of marketing would have helped the massive backlash that badly written fanfiction caused among its fan base, even less so when it was launched on last gen before the PlayStation 4 released causing it to die out almost instantly since there were more eyes on the new gen
Would have fared better as a PlayStation 4 launch title ensuring its success somewhat due to being one of the few titles available at the time
@@bamban_garcia5562please be nice with your words 😅 that’s incredibly harsh to call it ‘bad fanfiction’
Honestly I wish I had known about Sly 4 a lot sooner too but it took a way for my family to even get a PS4😅 maybe if it had better marketing the series would have kept going 🤷♀️
Sly 1 is so underrated. Definitely some frustrations but it hooked me so hard.
You should watch the 3 retrospective videos by B-mask about Sly. As a huge Sly fan I always find myself watching those videos again just to be reminded how great the story of Sly is!
For Sly Cooper 4, I absolutely agree with you and I don’t agree with half the Sly Fan base. I enjoyed that game, I never understood some of people’s complaints.
Let’s be honest sucker punch wasn’t going to do a sly 4 and it looked like a very long time that we weren’t getting a 4th game. Not until 8 years later after the 3rd one we got a new entire from a different company, this was their first sly game after doing the collection, and it’s literally just more of the same, but this was their first time and it was good. They stepped up to the plate to actually make a sly 4 when nobody else was. I bet giving Sanzaru games another sequel they would go and improve even more than before. But now that doesn’t seem like that is possible for them anymore.
Really great video. I've had a lifelong love of this series. I honestly think it has the best character writing out of all of the mascot franchises.
Great video! Blast from the past. I can tell you have so much passion for the series and it’s so refreshing to see for those of us that are day 1 Playstation franchise nerds!
I'm happy you went into detail about the back of the box. I remember taking Sly 2 with me everywhere I went as a kid and spent alot of time just looking at the back of case, reminding me of all the fun I'm going to have! This series means so much to me. Even if I don't think Thieves in Time is a good Sly game, I can still have fun with it and respect Sanzaru for giving it a shot. Great video!
Based comment, I actually have the same opinion to yours, miss the Sly franchise
So glad i found out about you after you joined last stand. Easily one of my favorite channels now.
It warms my heart to know that the Sly Cooper fandom hasn't died.
The first sly cooper has the best antagonist of course. The overall story is the best of the series. Sly 2 has the best subplots. The gang being split up and seeing murray and bently grow into their own. Sly 3 perfected gameplay. Sly 4 continued the series. The easter egg of seeing clockwerk in every time period is master class though.
Except clockwork shouldn't exist in sly 4 ep.3
The clockwork easter egg in 4 is kinda weird though. It's cool, but why doesn't sly acknowledge it at all?
@@jonahbrown5669mmm i do wish Sly acknowledged how creepy Clockwerk is to be watching the whole time 😅
I had the extreme privilege to talk with the voice of Sly Cooper, Kevin Miller over the phone back when he and his best friend did a gaming centered podcast. And he and I are also friends on Facebook 😅 I don’t ever bother him or ask him questions about Sly. But I have sent him the occasional “hey, hope you and the family are doing well. God bless” kinds of things. Such a sweet guy.
Sly 3 literally has you climbing up the body of a giant Carmelita.. How can this game NOT be your favorite
I just subscribed, then you post a video of my favorite game series ever… I knew I liked your videos great job!
u are very chill i like these vibes , subbed
Sly Cooper was one of, if not the best, games I've ever played so much nostalgia and the fact that they've aged well, hopefully they can bring back the franchise some day, most likely in a Remake
Games like this made the ps2 so great, even though I was mainly an Xbox guy at the time. I did buy a ps2 for Everquest and ffxi though.
Fantastic video thank you very much!
Love the vids man. Just picked up Sly cooper collection for $35. More than I like, but been wanting it for a while :)
Yeah I've been thinking about picking that up for PS3 also it was around 50/40 on ebay so it went down a little.
That's honestly a great deal if it you got it with the case and everything
Your channel is fantastic. Thank you. Also, I LOVE these games. I should give them a spin again
You should really talk about the Jak and Daxter games on here; they were awesome games, too. The first is still one of the best platformers out there.
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@@lgd921 Ratchet & clank.
@@carlosaponte2349 ew
@@census8610 Oh sorry I meant Bubsy, clearly.
Plugged in my PS3 again and downloaded Thieves in Time. I think I will try to get platinum on it. The trilogy is quite expensive today.
I really loved Sly 4, but the thing that huets it the most is the looooooooong load times.
Hoping the series makes a Comeback. I love Sly Cooper!
This series was part of my childhood. Hope we get a new game, remaster or remake for the PS5!
Would love to see videos about OG Ratchet and Crash games.
TH-cam recommended a sly cooper walk through this morning and now it’s on my mind might have to buy the collection i haven’t played the games since the ps2 era
Bro, you're my favorite atm rn
Man I can never get enough of this series, it’s forever going to be my favorite of my childhood and I do hope that we eventually get a remake or ports(but with this day and age, most likely a remake) of the original trilogy. I honestly think it getting a remake for the original trilogy like how Crash and Spyro gotten(which brought them back into the spotlight, but so far more for Crash as we don’t have Spyro 4 yet) is the best way to go and then maybe a sly5 or a remake of 4 that fixes its flaws(like the ending).
Honestly I love all of these games as a series a lot of my complaints for the different games are minor but I love all of em for what they are especially with the Easter egg in thieves in time with clockwork
Always a massive fan of this series. Heavily influenced my taste in games and music.
Not me seeing the cover for Sly 2 and crying because of all the fond memories that rushed in
Started playing these for the first time recently. Was able to get the collection and 4 for $60 together. I'm on the second game now and am absolutely loving them. Can't believe I skipped these on the PS2 back in the day.
What's your thoughts now?
Sly 2: Band of Thieves was the first Sly Cooper game I started with! I think it’s fun playing a later installment of a series and then playing the first game later to see the references like I played Arkham City before I played Arkham Asylum.
Dam Matty we're cut from the same cloth! Excellent videos. I LOVE SLY 🦝
I bought the trilogy off the store a while back and loved it despite being in my late 20s at the time haha. Did buy Thieves In Time, still need to play it though.
First of all, love your video and second, I apologize for my long comment, but I'm a fan of the saga too hahaha
My favorite game its Sly 3, its true that Sly 2 really innovates in comparison to Sly 1 and that Sly 3 uses Sly 2 as a base.
But Sly 3 also innovates in a great way, refreshing the saga with new gameplays but at the same time maintaining its essence.
With gameplays such as the planes, the gondolas in Venice, the pirate ships (an idea that Assassin's Creed would later copy hahah), also by adding a multiplayer mode, secondary missions to complete after passing the story of some level, the treasure maps and including for the first time new integrants to the gang, all of them with unique gameplays. (without forgetting the 3D mode of the PS2 era)
On the other hand the environment feels more alive, with the stages of the day changing along the level, with Carmelita walking over the areas, by including traps on the level, with the scenario changing according to the events that happen along the missions, being able to dissguise and talk to guards to go unnoticed, the wolf on the Baron's level and a few other things.
The story of sly 2 is very well done, really well written. But I feel like they lengthened the story a lot by adding so many levels. While Sly 3 has the right extension and its story is also very well done.
We discover more of Sly's past, about his father even, we learned his different ancestors on an epic level in the Coopers' chamber where Sly discovers an incredible new ability related to lasers (I wish it had been included in Sly 4).
Also during the story we visit incredible settings where we meet antagonists from previous games and we see how the actions of past games have a great impact on the story (with characters like Panda King, Dimitri and Muggshot)
Also we see more about other characters, such as Bentley finally finding his better half (until the nonsense that happens with Penelope in Sly 4) or touching on topics such as the roles of each member in the band to conclude that they are above all a family. In addition, Sly finally confesses his love to Carmelita and ends the game with a bittersweet ending that perfectly closes the trilogy (until the 4th was made, i don't complain). I also think that Sly 3 includes some of the best villains in the series, such as General Tsao, Dr. M or Octavio.
Personally, the only problem I noticed in sly 2 was its extension, not because the game had more levels than the others, but because quite similar things were always done in them (yes, there were some exceptions such as the tank in the Contessa's level or Bentley's Dron in the Jean Bison level), but for the most part there were always similar dynamics.
However, I think that both Sly 2 and Sly 3 are the best games in the series and that which game you discovered this incredible world and its characters will always influence a lot.
Lets hope they bring sly Cooper back to life, it was my childhood
PS: The bubbles with options to talk to other characters and also the paintings with codes making references to the previous games were also pretty dope things on Sly 3
PPD: I did miss the clue bottles on Sly 3 :(
Damn, there is one thing I will miss back in the ps2 days and that is awesome manual which I would actually read and have deep insight on the lore of the game.
Love all the sly games even thieves in time, wish and hope one day soon we will get sly 5 and 6 to be official
Sly 4 honestly did deserve a lot better than it got. It was a legitimately fun game, some hampering from PS3 hardware aside, but the changes ended up polarizing the remaining fanbase, and now it's arguably the punching bag that "killed" the series. Which is a shame, because I remember feeling like it was made by legitimately caring fans of the series too, Sucker Punch gave them their blessing in the first place to keep up the work after trying so hard and putting as much care as they could into the HD Version of the original trilogy. If it came out a few years earlier into the Playstation's life cycle, it might have done better, seeing as the desire for a sequel might have been newer on top of maybe nostalgia glasses on the original trilogy might have made some of the older fans react... well, as any nostalgic fan does. I was honestly glad to have the characters and gameplay back, even if they didn't feel the same as they did on the PS2 for obvious reasons.
3 might still be my favorite on virtue of its writing and levels alone, but damn, these games were great. And it was nice to see a bit of more love towards them, including the one that may have had a misfortune of going down in history as the bad one (which it wasn't).
I enjoy Sly 4😅 sure the characters talking a lot in gameplay and the twist being not well hidden was slightly annoying given I figured it out immediately (and I hate figuring out twists Super fast😅) but like I love time travel stories 😊
Bentley committed war crimes. Traps, literally juicing enemies... he's a madman!
Just replayed 3 for the millionth time. I played it on the vita for the first time ever this time. One of my favorite franchises
I remember seeing this game when I was kid and I wanted this game, but another game overshadowed my hype for this game. Watched a walkthrough of it when I was eleven and I fell in love with it.
I liked Sly 4. I just hated that it was the last one... But hopefully not for long!
Hangin’ with Mr. Cooper.
Jak was my favorite as a kid, but Sly is my favorite as an adult.
I liked sly more personally but I did love jak and daxter as well. I’ll never forget how shocked I was when I first played jak 2 and realized how different it was from the first game. It was so much darker, a lot harder and way wayyy more action. It almost felt like an entirely new franchise
I got the OG in a bundle with my first PS2. Changed my life forever that’s for sure
Matty you’re creating a ton of content which is awesome but don’t forget to put your health and mind first!
When I got my ps3 in 2013, the sly trilogy was one of the first games I tracked down. Great fun
i fucking love sly still have my copys of 2 and 3 i will say personally thieves in time didnt do it for me wasn't bad but it no where close to as good as 2. 2 was the first game i got introduced to it from a demo disc years ago i hope we see a comeback those were some excellent games and i love characters Bentley is my fav for sure
At this point in time anything that doesn't hit or wow like x game did is going to be considered "disappointing" to some.
Recently I've played through the entire Sly Trilogy for the first time and I wish I played it sooner, I feel like kid me would absolutely be obsessed with these games.
Sly 3 was definitely my favorite, 1 being my close second (Sly 2 was great but it kinda dragged on and many missions were a bit hit or miss), I still have yet to play Thieves in Time but I'm not sure if I want my recently developed love for this series to get damaged
I totally agree with you on Thieves in Time Matty. It was a unique and good addition to the series
It sucks that those rumors were eventually shut down by Sucker Punch. Would’ve loved to see a new game sooner than later since Thieves in Time is reaching its 10-year anniversary. But, at least they were honest with us and not using us…
it's cool you know about Sly, i'm very new to the games
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If this series is coming back in any capacity, I’m looking for the equivalent of Sly Cooper Kiwami and Sly Cooper Zero
PlayStation underground used to be the shiz back in the ps1 days. I didn’t know they continued into the ps2 days. You always got awesome dual demo discs in the mail every quarter with import demos and developer videos or e3 footage etc.
Bruh no love for that PS Move game attached to the Collection and Bentley's Hackpack on the Vita?!?
But fr great video
I loved this series but it always gives me the weirdest memories cuz my life around that time was wild lol
Yes siiiiiir! Such a fantastic series!
Hopefully they we bring him back 🪝
I miss this series so much 😭
I had that sly 2 map poster but lost it as a kid. Still mad about it to this day.
The Sly Cooper video game series was awesome 😎👍. I loved sneaking around and beating up mercenaries and henchmen while avoiding being seen but I really liked his reverse Batman and Catwoman relationship with the lady Fox detective.
I have the first two games. Never played 3 however I even cosplayed him years ago. I want two things to happen. One, my sly cooper funko pop signed by Kevin Miller (Sly himself) & two Sly 5 to come out soon!
Thank you letting me remember the gold days 🥹🥹
Sly 4 would have been WAY better if that DLC of egypt just would have happened. I dont have too many gripes with the game. Graphics, gameplay, the feel, everything was top their Sly, except... the writing. Nate Fox and the others that wrote Sly 1-3 at Suckerpunch knew the characters inside and out, but sanzaru (in my opinion) seems to only kind-of know these characters and their deepest feelings and thoughts.
Like the vid just off the title. This shit was childhood and to this day I still replay the first game from time to time just like I did all those years ago.
Crazy that I don’t think I ever beaten the second one, but I believe I did for the third. Either way, these are games that I’ll always come back to and they’ll always hold a place in my heart given how much time I spent playing them as a kid. (Especially the first one).
I remember bonding with my father during the Mz Ruby boss fight.
I loved 2 and 3's gameplay but the first game had a focus that i really missed in those subsequent games. It's arguably the best game because of that.
Hey Matty, did you ever play the SOCOM games? That would be a fun series to revisit
My first platinum is Sly 2!
The first is easily the best imo. The level structure gave the game a lot more variety and constantly changed up environments and enemies. And the slightly darker tone was nice. 2 and 3 were GREAT!! But some backtracking and occasionally silly story beats lead me towards Sly 1 more often than not. A great series all around though!
Literally just beat sly 1 an hr ago! Wish I could get my hands on the collection of ps3. The ps2 games haven't aged well lol. They play at 480i. So a lot of the graphics are fuzzy looking. Matty you make a great point on the collection. Was kinda unsure about buying it but you're definitely right, the ps3 store will eventually shut down. So I'm definitely buying it.
Sly 2 was also my favorite and most played. I never got my hands on sly 3 but I did play it once after school in 2005 at a former friends house. (I was 8.) Only played it once tho. Never played Thieves of time.
PS3 botched some aspects of the collection if I remember. You’re better off on ps2.
Sly 4 and it's ending aged like milk, really wish they never made it. The ps2 trilogy is still amazing tho and I recommend it to anyone who likes platformers.
Funny how he never mentioned the awful loading times which got worse as the game went on.
I personally enjoyed it but if I had to choose between a Sly 5 or a remake of the Thievous Raccoonus, I'm definitely going for the remake
@@elharvey5032 why not both?
@@census8610 keywords: If I HAD to choose
@@elharvey5032I pick sly 5
I've always loved Sly games cause sly moves so smoothly. Sly 4's movement was quite clunky. That's why it wasn't as good as the other games
I’ve never played this series I want to get it now
12:26 we didn’t quite know what forces we were toying with in those days; conversion to the 3rd Dimension science, the darkest of magics.
Do jak trilogy!
Beyond the Penelope storyline, there are other flaws with Sly 4 that you didn’t mention:
1. The gameplay in general feels floatier; much different from the previous 3 games.
2. The dialogue is legitimately awful compared to the previous games.
3. Some of the missions are just flat-out weird, like the missions where Murray and Carmelita belly dance.
4. Personally, I wasn’t a fan of some of the added mechanics, like the new hackathons or the shooting missions.
How is the game feeling different considered a flaw
@@census8610play 2k16 and then play 2k23 and you'll see the problem.
I have the vita collection and plan to get the vita version of 4
It would be interesting if there is a new sly game it take some ideas from the batman games the stealth combat and tech batman has could be useful in the sly world
My childhood was the first 3
Sly and Ty: the goats of 3D platforms finest generation!
ok, i will try the first one.
first two sly games are it for me, pure magic.
It seems like maybe you’ve forgotten or just didn’t realize, That without sly three there can be no sly four, Since the concept of time travel was introduced at the end of sly three as a teaser.
Matty - this games amazing, just look at that manuel!! 10/10 manuel says it all🤣🤣
I have been waiting for a PlayStation remaster for so long, another great gem from PS2 is Tom and Jerry War Of The Whiskers
You should make a video about mega Man legends 1,2, and Misadventures of Tron Bonne and how it's a war crime Capcom didn't make a third game.
All the while I'm here by my lonesome self still waiting for Medievil 3 since 1999...
My favorite gaming raccoon is Sonic
Content 👌
All the games r on ps plus top tier plan!
The trilogy is still awesome
My guess is they're probably rebooting Sly Cooper the same way they did Ratchet and Clank in 2016. I don't think they would do Sly 5. It will probably be an updated take on the story of the first game. And I think it's PixelOpus' game with Sony Animation. Sony Animation had that Sly Cooper movie in development that never came out. I think there was even a teaser for it. I guess it was canceled because of how poorly the R&C movie did. But maybe they can transition some of those assets into a game?
InFAMOUS was also included in that same "leak". I think it's more likely that Sucker Punch is working on that than Sly Cooper. Probably Ghost of Tsushima 2/Legends 2 and a new InFAMOUS
Sly Cooper was the best reason why having a PlayStation was better than a Xbox or GameCube.
i pretty much agreed with everything in this review until Sly 3 and Thieves in Time
Like the Cooper family has decades of thieves so of course they would store the family fortune somewhere and it makes sense that Sly would visit it
And as for Thieves in Time i hated it due to certian characters acting completely different, the dialouge & humor where bad, story was bad and the main villain was weak compared to the other villians in the series