A huge thank you to you, your dad, Luke, Heidi and the rest of the team on the farm for all the videos this year. 2023 looks like it will be just as exciting as 2022 and 2021.
Good on you Tom, great to see a young man so excited for his future in agriculture . You made the right choice I think but don’t rule out the 16, or at least leave room for an easy extension afterwards. 👏👏
Indeed I would also leave the pit a bit longer then you’ll need for now. So if you go for 14 leave room for two or three cows. It’s cheaper to do now then in the future. So make it sort of future proof. And don’t make it to smal in the width wise. As you’ll milk with two persons.
Yeah I agree, as long as you have acr's it won't matter if your routine can't keep up with the parlour at certain times of year. No farmer ever said I wish I'd built a smaller parlour. Cost will be minimal at this stage. Great project 👍
Hi Tom I'm a dairy engineer and I'm so glad you have gone for a parlour, I believe it's definitely the right choice for your farm, having the Vacuum on demand is a must for a modern parlour but perhaps consider having a variable speed milk pump as well (more energy saving). I would suggest to make the parlour as light and airy as possible with no ceiling leaving space to fit (or add at a later date) fans for the summer months not only keeping you and the cows cooler, but it helps cut down on flies, if it is possible (It's not always an option) I would also suggest that you put the feeders on the outside of the parlour walls so the cake falls into the troughs through a hole/Pipe in the wall, so the feeders are protected from the cows, the electronics for the feeders are protected from water and the whole wall is really easy to keep clean, For the walls concrete panels are probably the cheapest option but potentially could make it hard work for the folks fittings the parlour, panels can be a pain to fit to especially if you keep hitting the reinforcing whilst trying to put your feeders/troughs up in a nice straight line and hit rebar with every hole you drill. I wouldn't bother with gutters at all and especially not in the pit just have the pit floor running in one direction with a nice big drain at the end
I'm curious on your opinion on rotary milking parlors. I'm out of the loop now (and was never fully in the loop just worked in a tangential field) but it always seemed to me to be the obvious chice if you had the space and money for the initial investment. Obviously Tom doesn't have the space for one. But I'm curious about your opinion in general. Are they even available in the UK?
@@alexandersteel7272 they are available in the UK and if you are wanting to milk a very large number of cows in a short space of time (there's a farm near me milking 980 3 times a day) then it can be a very good way to do it, but in my personal opinion a Rotary is not the way to go if you want to keep running/maintenance costs low, and if there's a breakdown with the running gear it can be very troublesome (if the Deck cannot turn you cannot milk) I've seen people who have hydraulic hoses made up to run the parlour off a tractor in a worst case scenario, a modern parlour can be a fairly high tech/complex thing, but making the whole turn can add a whole new set of problems when the parlour gets older, first hand I have seen drive/idler wheels wear out, beams crack, gearboxes sh!t themselves, bearings go etc. So yes when they are brand new they are great and they will make milking faster and easier but unless you are milking more than 400 cows and are fully aware of the added maintenance cost and potential breakdowns that could happen as the parlour get older i would stick to a herringbone, Because even if all the clever stuff on a parlour dies on Christmas eve(meters, acrs etc) with a bit of know how and swapping pipes around as long as you have vacuum and pulsation you can still milk.
A 75yr. Old from Miami Florida, is thoroughly enjoying your program. Most everything is new to my eyes and ears. Especially your accent. Thank you for your most positive attitude to your livlyhood.
- Firstly with a herringbone parlour, get some sort of bailing system installed. It’s a must. You don’t want cows stopping at feeders on their way out delaying cow flow. - Shutter the walls including pit walls. Don’t use panels. - Allow it to be extended to 18 points in the future. - You will need a new meal bin with auger system so have a location for the bin chosen in your parlour plans. - DO NOT put rubber down on the ground the cows stand when being milked. Complete waste of money. - DO NOT paint your parlour with coloured paint. Use clear waterproof wall sealer instead. You will thank me in the future.
I am not a farmer, I don’t know anything about farming. I live in the city of Toronto, Canada 🇨🇦. However, I love your channel. I’ve learned a lot about cows 🐄. I also love when your dad starts to explain things. He has so much knowledge to share!!! . Anyways 🤣Happy Holidays 🎄🎅 to you and your family. I am looking forward to seeing the new parlour.
Greetings from Scotland 🏴👍 I'm an arable farmer so not a dairy farmer, I occasionally watch this channel and it's very good. Actually for me and I'm sure Tom the fact you're watching and your nothing to do with farming is actually great 👍 I think it's great when these sort of channels can bridge the gap between farming people and non farming people. It's really good of you taking an interest and I hope you continue to enjoy his channel, he seems a very positive chap. Merry Christmas to you and all in Canada 🎄😊
Good luck with the project very exciting. You wont regret getting cow scout takes a lot of work out of finding bulling cows, its been the best investment we have made on farm.
Love that you went with a parlour! There's just something about seeing your cows twice a day and milking them yourself! I only milk 6 cows atm, but still🤣 So happy for you!
Unbelievable the progress you've made these past 2 years. It's all thanks to you Tom!!! If you never took that step to start this channel none of this would've happened. It's true it takes a family of people to succeed, but it takes a hero to take that leap of faith. Thanks for taking that leap Tom!!!
I am seriously i impressed by a Dutch family dairy farm in Canada, youtube channel Sask Dutch Kid. Their parlour even has a gutter under the cows tails to catch the splutter
Tom everyone who watches and likes your video's shows how amazing the video's are and how interesting you all make them. I can't wait to see what a difference a new parlour makes to the farm. I hope your dad enjoys his Christmas day off but I still think he might sneak out to check on the cows 🐄 xx
Wow! Been waiting all year for this announcement. Hearing you say that the mighty ginge does not need to put his wellies on Christmas day. Seems like a passing of the torch from father to son 🥰 hearing your sincerity in thanking all those who support the chanel was very heartwarming Tom! Merry Christmas to you all. Bring on 2023!
Best tips I can give you for a parlor: Have a pool scupper like gutter set in under the heads walls so you don't have to cover it and can fast wash everything into it easily then use a rubber hoe to clear it along without having to leave the hoses pit. Put in a PAIR of equipment support beams overhead so you can rope hoses and wiring more easily and go duplex without having to worry about load. Build it *16* a side even if you're only going to install 14 milkers (leave room to easily extend it to 20 a side without having to tear down beams and stuff). Install hoods over the washing heads if you get the flip-downs like The Wellies have. Install a service slurry tank near it so you can divert sterilization cleaning to a storage instead of just dumping it in the muck system. These may add quite a few percentage points to the cost now but it'll save its own cost and 30x its interest down the road.
It has been 25 years since I milked in a parlour, it took 5 hours each end of the day to get 180 cows milked in a 1950’s 6 abrest parlour, so I can see your excitement in getting a new parlour built. Good luck, it’s the right decision for your farm. Merry Christmas to you all
congratulations tom ur videos are great good to see u progressing, we have only just fitted a parlour of our own something that was the best decision was for spraying the udders after they have been milked we fitted 5 spray nozzeles a side that are piped up to 2 drums of types of disinfectant in the diary room with the bulk tank, and get a larger meal bin than u think u need saves money on asking for meal to be delivered, wrap ur pipes that have liquids in them like ur wash system and pipes for ur milk to travel in something to stop them freezing recently ours have froze and we had to repair them
I am genuinely stoked with this progress update mate, you and Andrew have worked tirelessly and invested wisely in the future of Pembertons farm, your enthusiasm and energy has driven you to move forward at a pace that would leave many out of breath. More power to your elbow sir and thank you for being one of the influencing advocates British agriculture really needs right now. Wishing the entire family a very happy Christmas, and a prosperous 2023. 🙂👍🏼
You have made a good decision in our opinion. We milk 120 cows through a 20/40 swing over. Kept everything simple so we can fix most things ourselves. Like you say you know your cows have been milked. I have a couple of friends with robots and it does exactly what you said, rings them when they've gone out. Also not easy to get someone to look after a robot if you want a day off, a relief milker is easier to find. Looking forward to seeing your new parlour in action, good luck and thanks for promoting the dairy industry.
Good news Tom. I am not a farmer but have worked in engineering maintenance for much of my career and my biggest observation with any equipment is that the more bells and whistles the more chance it has of breaking down.Keep it simple. Ideally you need a parlour that you can maintain and do most of the repairs yourselves. I can see your logic with choosing a parlour over robots especially as energy costs are spiralling to god knows where. A parlour is only consuming energy for a few hours a day a robot is running 24/7. Merry Christmas to you , the family and all of your team. Thanks for the great videos.
I had forgotten about the mobile milking machine! I watched a newsbroadcast about a gentleman who raised camels for their milk. He kept them in the field and trained them to use the mobile machine rather than herd them to the barn. I was impressed how calm and accepting the camels were. 🐫 They walked it, ate a little food, and calmly walked out after they were milked. Kudos to that farmer! Best of luck to all of you and Merry Christmas from across the pond!!! ❤️💚❤️💚❤️💚❤️💚
You truly have done a huge amount of improvements . And it’s easy to see that much has lightened the load on all of you. I pray all your new projects will go smoothly.
Thank you for making videos! I watch them, knowing nothing about farming, and just relax! I am glad that my comments, views and likes help you create your dream farm. The power of community and the internet. I just love it!
it blows me away that you dont have individual cow readers already, we have those since 1990, have been out of the parlour and into robots now for 12 years, being able to see the milk curve in a per cow basis has been a god send, being able to tailor there feed per cow has made everything better from calving to breeding to production, your going to love it
You’re drive and passion for these developments is amazing! It was no surprise that you wanted to keep a hands on approach to seeing and being with your cows and hence a new parlour is your choice. Big surprise is your dad not be there on Christmas Day. It’ll never happen!! He’s seen two farm redevelopments in his life time and his enthusiasm is infectious! Moore concrete, mark, Andrew and Stuart. Nothing but the best. Can’t wait, Luke, Heidi and all the others at Pemberton’s what a team. You all are a pleasure to know through the little screen. Spot thanking us for our support, we would watch anyway. Just slightly more acceptable than stalking! Many thanks, have a great day. Bring on 2023.
Your Dad is amazing Tom! Always looking to improve everything and supporting you, as you support him! Brilliant both. Nadolig Llawen family... 🏴🏴
Hi Tom I built a 40/80 herringbone in 2019 best thing I’ve done,entry ID milk sensors auto draft auto wash Only bit of advice if you’re not happy with something make lots of noise until its right and don’t over complicate things 🤙
Since you asked for Some tips for the new parlour I've made a list of tips. -Future proof it (build the building a little larger for 16/18 a side and extra room for upgrades etc) It will cost a bit more money now but it will save you money later -Selection gate's (so you can sort out cows who recently calved, cows that need some extra care and dry cows (so that you can put the dry cows on a diffrent ration to improve the dry period wich improves the lactation)) -height adjustable floor (I don't know how tall you all are but with a height adjustable floor you can adjust it to the correct height no mather your lenght) -If a cow has antibiotics/colostrum make it that the milk goes through the milk meter before it goes into a kettle and thus keeping the automatic takeoff Not really a tip but in my opion the best "parlour" for milking is a rotary since you don't have to wait or very little and the clusters get near 100% usage during milking so they're very efficient. Love your video's and I'm always amazed how diffrent your farm is to what i'm used to (The Netherlands)❤👋
Fantastic news Tom👏👏👏 2023 is going to kick off in a very exciting way 😀 one thing to consider is milk cooking, you're almost doubling your milking units, make sure your milk cooling system can cope with the increased milk per hour. Have a great Christmas 👍
It’s not about me or us but if TH-cam is in anyway helping your amazing progress I’m so happy for you and proud we can participate in tiny ways. I’ve been saving your book to read over the holidays in our really bad weather. Looking forward to it.
Go for a 20 swing mate. Soooo much quicker. 3 sheds and your done. Either way keeping the steel work as straight and simple as you can (look at kiwi sheds) and look into an auto draft. Have a good area of space at the head of the pit for all your milking requirements. Having a trolley for your wipes is a massive time saver. 120 wipes in a clean bucket, used wipes in the other, you just bring it with you as you go down the pit, following a grove or slot in the floor. You wanna keep your walking to a minimum in a bigger herringbone, it’s what costs time and efficiency
From Canada...I am so excited for you and your Father with the new milking parlour. I don't farm, but the video of you at the sister's parlour was one of your best, and with this announcement I can now understand your thought process. You are informative and genuine. It is the highlight of my day to come home from work and watch you and the ginger guy. Thank you.
Love the videos Tom. I’m farming here in Ireland. Put in a 12 swing over last year. Everybody told us not to put drains in. I put them in the pit and on the stands. Best decision I made. The parlour stays so clean as you can hose dung from the pit instantly. Talk to anybody that has them and they will tell you the same. They save so much time washing!
That’s fantastic news Tom and we get to see it all happen too, I thought the parlour was a good idea after watching the Sisters in Wellies and they don’t milk too many more than your farm does so it makes sense, I also think it’s really good if you to designate a viewing area for people like us , it’s like you are giving something back so thank you and I hope you all have a good Christmas 👍👍
Congratulations on the new improvement! Have you watched SaskDutch Kid from Canada? They have a great parlour system. Very clean, 12 aside. Worth watching! He has also done some great interviews with dairy farmers in British Columbia and in California.
Merry Christmas to you and your family Tom . This is what a utube channel should be , investing what comes from the channel back into your farm . At the end of the day you and your family are still farmers working really hard but improving your way of life and animals welfare for the better, good luck to you
Speaking as someone who has worked with both robots and parlours (at the same farm even), and i can say, that neither are wrong options. The biggest and most important factor is that it fits the farmer, and only you can truly answer that. Im looking forward to see the new parlour being built -Vard
So excited for you! Looking forward to watching everything unfold and the chats with your dad and Mr Wareing with the fantastic voice!! Have a fantastic Christmas and New Year and keep moving forward boys ❤❤
An effective drafting system after the cows have been milked can save time. My advice would be to put as much effort into designing that as the parlour itself. GEA parlour is a good choice. Exciting times ahead
Hi Tom, I am so happy for you & your dad. The new parlour sounds fantastic. I loved watching Sisters in Wellies parlour it was so bright and roomy. I think you have made a good decision. Love watching your TH-cam channel, so interesting. My very best wishes to both you & Andrew, another big year for you & your dad. Merry Christmas to all the family. ❤. 🥰🇦🇺
👀The Ginger Warrior without the Mustache!! Something about your Father is looking younger and full of energy! Must be the Spirit of Christmas!!! We are excited for your 2023 project!!!
Tom thank you for you and your family making these videos. It’s such an achievement you have made and I’m so happy for you. I have some of your merch and I love it. Look forward to more videos coming soon. Look forward to the new things ahead.
Make sure the tank room drains run via the pit so if there's a disaster the milk runs in and see it straight away. Also udder cloths and a washing machine, massive savings on paper towels
This is amazing news Tom. Huge for the farm. I think keeping the location where the existing parlour is was a perfect decision as cows already know where it is. I’m really pleased for you and looking forward to seeing it all.
Exciting times ahead Tom for you, your Dad and the team. I would like to wish everyone on the team a Very Happy Christmas and a fantastic New year. Look forward to the development of the new parlour.
Here in Michigan we’re I milk we have a rotary parlor. But after we had a swing over one I think I like the rotary because you can continuously have cows going in and out
For the hired temporary milking bail unit, to help row changeovers walking up the ramp. See what someone like Arrowquip can add to the Q catch unit (with the 'anti-drop unit' at the front removed) with extra alley panels and a cattle tub so the next row of cows waiting to be milked is already lined up to walk up onto the hire milking unit.
Tom, thanks for allowing to be part of it all. If you and all the members of Team Pemberton weren’t so passionate you may not of been so captivating. Your passionate about your cows your passionate about the grass that feeds them. What you put into life you get back. My meal times on a Tuesday Friday and sometimes a Sunday morning gets moved to line up with your video. A builders brew packet of bickies and I’m set ready. Phone goes on silent and that’s it the world stops. So thanks again for being entertaining but educating with it. Have a cracking Christmas hope 2023 is one of love laughter health wealth prosperity abundance of all the good things in life.
Great to hear what the plans are for 2023 and looking forward to watching their progress on your videos. Thanks to you Tom, your dad and the rest of the Pemberton’s team for many many hours of entertainment and learning. All have a great Christmas and all the very best for 2023
The scale is so interesting. I'm in New Zealand, don't work on dairy farm but grew up on them and have close links still. The last farm I was involved with some work on had 3x 50 bail rotary's. From memory each herd was about 500 head. Average herd size is about 440head
18:49 I love your videos. I love the respect you have for your dad. He also respects all of the work that you do. It’s very clear you both love the work and are moving the farm forward Merry Christmas. An exciting new year is coming your way. Enjoy the time with your family over Christmas. Cheers.
ive been milking on a parlour very similar to the girls in wellies- big issue on that one is height of cluster washers ends up getting shat on due to backing bars being slightly too far back. - i like the middle cluster washers like ifarm wefarm has.
Yay! I was so hoping you would go with a parlor 😊 The robots a cool but for me I like parlors better. I feel they give me a better closer look at the cows every day. So excited for you!
I was really impressed with your video of the Sisters in Wellies’ parlor. I think a similar concept of that parlor would be very beneficial to everyone at Pemberton Farms! Sounds like a great plan Tom and Andrew. The interim may be difficult during the transition, but I look forward to seeing the progress during the construction process. Love how you are moving the farm forward!!! As they say: onwards and upwards, or get left behind.
You could take 3/4 of the showroom and put shelves and use it to keep a ship for small stuff the other part for viewing maybe a steal or two wirh calves so they can see them also. So happy for all of you you deserve it tom
Hi Tom, couple of suggestions . If there's room, put the feeders and hoppers on the outside of the wall and pipe the corn through the wall into the trough. It's so much tidier , cows can't damage or bang on things to get corn and any electric's don't get wet when washing walls (sisters in wellies didn't wash top of wall because of this). And the other thing , a backing gate, you don't have a lot of room, but if u can put one in. Merry Christmas
TDF Honest Farming Derrick Josi doesn’t feed his cows when they’re being milked, takes under a couple minutes to milk, and the cows are back to the feed bunks. He’s milking 800 a day, his goal is a thousand. He’s got a 50-cow rotary.
The farm I work at we’ve got a 30 cow rotary with 800 odd head and the feeder hasn’t work for 20 odd years but the cows come in with little to no bother as ther are only there for a couple mins
Your channel provides an incredibly good & entertaining close-up into dairy farming, & business planning. Thanks to the team for all the extras it takes to bring us the vids. Best of holiday seasons to you all. 💗👍👍
ABSOLUTELY HUMBLE GENTLEMEN!! You are so genuine and thankful for everything that you and your family and working family have achieved !! Congratulations to you ALL. 2023………….
I seem to make a comment like this more often than not on your videos Tom… Am absolutely made up for you all, what an incredible project to embark on. So we’ll deserved that you’re able to make such an investment. Can’t wait to see it progress, and come and see it when it’s built! Coming to see the shed seemed incredible, can’t wait to see the parlour. Oh… and Merry Christmas to all of you.
Hi Tom….. technically I’m an armchair farmer but my excuse is/was being brought up on a farm in N Ireland. I follow you and a few others on TH-cam and just wanted to commend you on your development plans and your enthusiasm for the future of your milking plans…. your TH-cam content is always a joy to watch. Good luck for 2023 and onwards.
Congratulations on your decision. Not involved in farming but knowing your love for your cows it makes sense to have a more hands on operation. Robots seem efficient but take some of the human contact out of your production. Thanks for sharing - really enjoy watching. Marry Christmas to all the Pembertons!
Congratulations on the next step!! Your Dad's enthusiasm and excitement were self-evident. I would ask the farmer who had the type of parlor you are building WHY to avoid gutters. Once they're in, tough to change and his remark was "Don't waste your money. " Otherwise, it all sounds very promising!
One thing with the autoid/collars tom is in the mornings and evenings when cows bully eachother to try and get in they skip eachother coming in which can mess up your autoid. It’s a simple process to get it right but something to be aware of. Best of luck👍
Tom, congratulations on a fantastic 2022. You work so hard, with so much passion it's a privilege to be able to follow your and your farms journey. Wishing you, Jo, Ginger, Mrs Ginger, all of your extended family, Luke, Heidi, your endlessly helpful neighbours, the Wareings team, the concrete lads and all the other helping hands that support your farm, a very happy and peaceful Christmas and a successful and prosperous New Year. 💜
You new project sounds really exciting Tom. Can't wait to see it come together. Hope you, all your family, and everyone connected with the running of the farm (Team Pemberton) have a fab Christmas. Lastly, but not least, thanks for all the effort you go to Tom to film and edit the very interesting vids you upload every week.
hi Tom My dad didn’t go to see robots in action he went to see the farmers that took the robots out after six months to five years in use and they made up his mind to go with a 16 swing over unit parlor now and it works perfectly
Hi Tom excited for the new build I’m currently working in a 15 aside double up on the cups milking 300 fresians it takes us 3hrs a milking we definitely need an upgrade. For u do 15 aside double up not swing over 1 person can still handle it
Fair play Tom, you, your family and employees are passionate about what you do and the welfare of your animals, keep up the good work. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Great video. I'm not a farmer, but I know one, and he went to a Parlour setup, and he's always said if he was to do it again on a different farm, he'd get all the cows wearing the collars way before the Parlour was up and running. Maybe it was his cows, but they hated them, and they all went on the hump (his words). He lost around a month of total milk production, and it took around 2 months to get it working as he wanted. Good luck with it Sir. Have a Merry Christmas and a blazing 2023. All the very best to you and the family.
Robotic milker here, I think it's the correct decision to put a palor in. For you the robots would be perfect, but for your farm a palor is a better fit. Good luck with the build in 2023!
Tom The best parlour iv milked in was a simple low vacuum parlour with no acr's, we went from a 8/16 to a 16/32 easily a one man parlour, one of the best designs was that the cows stood at right angle rather than herringbone, this made the overall length about the equivalent of a 11 long herringbone, also all the flooring ran away and the pipework ran down towards the pump to save a little bit more. Good luck
You owe no one nothing Tom your videos are a great insight for me someone who isn’t on or involved in a farm .. we all watch because of you well done to you and the ginger guy … futures bright
You owe me nothing, Tom. I love watching your farm grow it just makes me wish my Gran never sold up. Can't wait to see the changes in action Roll on 2023
A huge thank you to you, your dad, Luke, Heidi and the rest of the team on the farm for all the videos this year. 2023 looks like it will be just as exciting as 2022 and 2021.
Thanks Paul ☺️
Here here Paul I totally agree. ❤
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@@TPROCTER She's training to be a vet. Helps out on the farm and pops up in the vids every now and then.
@@TomPembertonFarmLife Hi Tom so why a swing over would a 12/12 be quicker?
Good on you Tom, great to see a young man so excited for his future in agriculture . You made the right choice I think but don’t rule out the 16, or at least leave room for an easy extension afterwards. 👏👏
Agree with u Adrian.should go 16 for the number of cows been milked and leave room to extend if possible
Indeed I would also leave the pit a bit longer then you’ll need for now. So if you go for 14 leave room for two or three cows. It’s cheaper to do now then in the future. So make it sort of future proof.
And don’t make it to smal in the width wise. As you’ll milk with two persons.
Yeah I agree, as long as you have acr's it won't matter if your routine can't keep up with the parlour at certain times of year. No farmer ever said I wish I'd built a smaller parlour. Cost will be minimal at this stage. Great project 👍
Defo put in stall work and pit for 18 units even if you are only going for 14 units so much easier to expand in the future
100% I’d definitely put in a 16 and leave enough for maybe 20 cause 120 cows is a brave few and things tend to only get bigger
Hi Tom I'm a dairy engineer and I'm so glad you have gone for a parlour, I believe it's definitely the right choice for your farm, having the Vacuum on demand is a must for a modern parlour but perhaps consider having a variable speed milk pump as well (more energy saving).
I would suggest to make the parlour as light and airy as possible with no ceiling leaving space to fit (or add at a later date) fans for the summer months not only keeping you and the cows cooler, but it helps cut down on flies,
if it is possible (It's not always an option) I would also suggest that you put the feeders on the outside of the parlour walls so the cake falls into the troughs through a hole/Pipe in the wall, so the feeders are protected from the cows, the electronics for the feeders are protected from water and the whole wall is really easy to keep clean,
For the walls concrete panels are probably the cheapest option but potentially could make it hard work for the folks fittings the parlour, panels can be a pain to fit to especially if you keep hitting the reinforcing whilst trying to put your feeders/troughs up in a nice straight line and hit rebar with every hole you drill.
I wouldn't bother with gutters at all and especially not in the pit just have the pit floor running in one direction with a nice big drain at the end
Cracking info there !! ❤
I'm curious on your opinion on rotary milking parlors. I'm out of the loop now (and was never fully in the loop just worked in a tangential field) but it always seemed to me to be the obvious chice if you had the space and money for the initial investment.
Obviously Tom doesn't have the space for one. But I'm curious about your opinion in general. Are they even available in the UK?
@@alexandersteel7272 they are available in the UK and if you are wanting to milk a very large number of cows in a short space of time (there's a farm near me milking 980 3 times a day) then it can be a very good way to do it, but in my personal opinion a Rotary is not the way to go if you want to keep running/maintenance costs low, and if there's a breakdown with the running gear it can be very troublesome (if the Deck cannot turn you cannot milk) I've seen people who have hydraulic hoses made up to run the parlour off a tractor in a worst case scenario, a modern parlour can be a fairly high tech/complex thing, but making the whole turn can add a whole new set of problems when the parlour gets older, first hand I have seen drive/idler wheels wear out, beams crack, gearboxes sh!t themselves, bearings go etc.
So yes when they are brand new they are great and they will make milking faster and easier but unless you are milking more than 400 cows and are fully aware of the added maintenance cost and potential breakdowns that could happen as the parlour get older i would stick to a herringbone,
Because even if all the clever stuff on a parlour dies on Christmas eve(meters, acrs etc) with a bit of know how and swapping pipes around as long as you have vacuum and pulsation you can still milk.
A 75yr. Old from Miami Florida, is thoroughly enjoying your program. Most everything is new to my eyes and ears. Especially your accent. Thank you for your most positive attitude to your livlyhood.
Thanks Tom for all the videos you do for us to see your life and what you do on the farm. The videos are always amazing and informative.
- Firstly with a herringbone parlour, get some sort of bailing system installed. It’s a must. You don’t want cows stopping at feeders on their way out delaying cow flow.
- Shutter the walls including pit walls. Don’t use panels.
- Allow it to be extended to 18 points in the future.
- You will need a new meal bin with auger system so have a location for the bin chosen in your parlour plans.
- DO NOT put rubber down on the ground the cows stand when being milked. Complete waste of money.
- DO NOT paint your parlour with coloured paint. Use clear waterproof wall sealer instead. You will thank me in the future.
I would still go for merlin M2 robots. But maybe not the most objective advice from the biggest Fullwood JOZ youtuber😄
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2023 is going to be an awesome year on the farm.
Thank you for 2022 being a good year to watch the Pemberton Farm.
I am not a farmer, I don’t know anything about farming. I live in the city of Toronto, Canada 🇨🇦. However, I love your channel. I’ve learned a lot about cows 🐄. I also love when your dad starts to explain things. He has so much knowledge to share!!! . Anyways 🤣Happy Holidays 🎄🎅 to you and your family. I am looking forward to seeing the new parlour.
Greetings from Scotland 🏴👍
I'm an arable farmer so not a dairy farmer, I occasionally watch this channel and it's very good.
Actually for me and I'm sure Tom the fact you're watching and your nothing to do with farming is actually great 👍
I think it's great when these sort of channels can bridge the gap between farming people and non farming people.
It's really good of you taking an interest and I hope you continue to enjoy his channel, he seems a very positive chap.
Merry Christmas to you and all in Canada 🎄😊
Good luck with the project very exciting. You wont regret getting cow scout takes a lot of work out of finding bulling cows, its been the best investment we have made on farm.
Love that you went with a parlour! There's just something about seeing your cows twice a day and milking them yourself! I only milk 6 cows atm, but still🤣 So happy for you!
Unbelievable the progress you've made these past 2 years. It's all thanks to you Tom!!! If you never took that step to start this channel none of this would've happened. It's true it takes a family of people to succeed, but it takes a hero to take that leap of faith. Thanks for taking that leap Tom!!!
I am seriously i impressed by a Dutch family dairy farm in Canada, youtube channel Sask Dutch Kid. Their parlour even has a gutter under the cows tails to catch the splutter
Tom everyone who watches and likes your video's shows how amazing the video's are and how interesting you all make them. I can't wait to see what a difference a new parlour makes to the farm. I hope your dad enjoys his Christmas day off but I still think he might sneak out to check on the cows 🐄 xx
Hahah think your right tbh 😂
@@TomPembertonFarmLife hi I git a highlighted replay on a comment saying I won something is this legit?
Well done Tom, I've seen all the videos 2022 has been great
Wow! Been waiting all year for this announcement. Hearing you say that the mighty ginge does not need to put his wellies on Christmas day. Seems like a passing of the torch from father to son 🥰 hearing your sincerity in thanking all those who support the chanel was very heartwarming Tom! Merry Christmas to you all. Bring on 2023!
And also, a Sincere your welcome.😁
Best tips I can give you for a parlor: Have a pool scupper like gutter set in under the heads walls so you don't have to cover it and can fast wash everything into it easily then use a rubber hoe to clear it along without having to leave the hoses pit. Put in a PAIR of equipment support beams overhead so you can rope hoses and wiring more easily and go duplex without having to worry about load. Build it *16* a side even if you're only going to install 14 milkers (leave room to easily extend it to 20 a side without having to tear down beams and stuff). Install hoods over the washing heads if you get the flip-downs like The Wellies have.
Install a service slurry tank near it so you can divert sterilization cleaning to a storage instead of just dumping it in the muck system.
These may add quite a few percentage points to the cost now but it'll save its own cost and 30x its interest down the road.
It has been 25 years since I milked in a parlour, it took 5 hours each end of the day to get 180 cows milked in a 1950’s 6 abrest parlour, so I can see your excitement in getting a new parlour built. Good luck, it’s the right decision for your farm. Merry Christmas to you all
congratulations tom ur videos are great good to see u progressing, we have only just fitted a parlour of our own something that was the best decision was for spraying the udders after they have been milked we fitted 5 spray nozzeles a side that are piped up to 2 drums of types of disinfectant in the diary room with the bulk tank, and get a larger meal bin than u think u need saves money on asking for meal to be delivered, wrap ur pipes that have liquids in them like ur wash system and pipes for ur milk to travel in something to stop them freezing recently ours have froze and we had to repair them
I am genuinely stoked with this progress update mate, you and Andrew have worked tirelessly and invested wisely in the future of Pembertons farm, your enthusiasm and energy has driven you to move forward at a pace that would leave many out of breath. More power to your elbow sir and thank you for being one of the influencing advocates British agriculture really needs right now.
Wishing the entire family a very happy Christmas, and a prosperous 2023. 🙂👍🏼
You have made a good decision in our opinion. We milk 120 cows through a 20/40 swing over. Kept everything simple so we can fix most things ourselves. Like you say you know your cows have been milked. I have a couple of friends with robots and it does exactly what you said, rings them when they've gone out. Also not easy to get someone to look after a robot if you want a day off, a relief milker is easier to find. Looking forward to seeing your new parlour in action, good luck and thanks for promoting the dairy industry.
So glad you are moving forward
Good news Tom. I am not a farmer but have worked in engineering maintenance for much of my career and my biggest observation with any equipment is that the more bells and whistles the more chance it has of breaking down.Keep it simple.
Ideally you need a parlour that you can maintain and do most of the repairs yourselves.
I can see your logic with choosing a parlour over robots especially as energy costs are spiralling to god knows where. A parlour is only consuming energy for a few hours a day a robot is running 24/7.
Merry Christmas to you , the family and all of your team. Thanks for the great videos.
Progress Tom! Keep going ... it's all good in 2023!!!
I had forgotten about the mobile milking machine! I watched a newsbroadcast about a gentleman who raised camels for their milk. He kept them in the field and trained them to use the mobile machine rather than herd them to the barn. I was impressed how calm and accepting the camels were. 🐫 They walked it, ate a little food, and calmly walked out after they were milked. Kudos to that farmer! Best of luck to all of you and Merry Christmas from across the pond!!! ❤️💚❤️💚❤️💚❤️💚
Merry Christmas and a Happy and Blessed New Year!!
You truly have done a huge amount of improvements . And it’s easy to see that much has lightened the load on all of you. I pray all your new projects will go smoothly.
Thank you for making videos! I watch them, knowing nothing about farming, and just relax! I am glad that my comments, views and likes help you create your dream farm.
The power of community and the internet. I just love it!
This is going to be a major improvement for your farm. I can’t wait to see all the videos on the new build.
it blows me away that you dont have individual cow readers already, we have those since 1990, have been out of the parlour and into robots now for 12 years, being able to see the milk curve in a per cow basis has been a god send, being able to tailor there feed per cow has made everything better from calving to breeding to production, your going to love it
I'm so excited about this, I can't wait to watch the transformation!
Great Xmas news for us lot.......Exciting times ahead should be up to 1million subscribers in no time.......................MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE.
You’re drive and passion for these developments is amazing! It was no surprise that you wanted to keep a hands on approach to seeing and being with your cows and hence a new parlour is your choice.
Big surprise is your dad not be there on Christmas Day. It’ll never happen!! He’s seen two farm redevelopments in his life time and his enthusiasm is infectious!
Moore concrete, mark, Andrew and Stuart. Nothing but the best.
Can’t wait, Luke, Heidi and all the others at Pemberton’s what a team. You all are a pleasure to know through the little screen.
Spot thanking us for our support, we would watch anyway. Just slightly more acceptable than stalking!
Many thanks, have a great day. Bring on 2023.
Merry Christmas tom and family and everyone else I can’t believe it is 2 days from chismas
Your Dad is amazing Tom! Always looking to improve everything and supporting you, as you support him! Brilliant both. Nadolig Llawen family... 🏴🏴
Hi Tom
I built a 40/80 herringbone in 2019 best thing I’ve done,entry ID milk sensors auto draft auto wash
Only bit of advice if you’re not happy with something make lots of noise until its right and don’t over complicate things 🤙
Since you asked for Some tips for the new parlour I've made a list of tips.
-Future proof it (build the building a little larger for 16/18 a side and extra room for upgrades etc) It will cost a bit more money now but it will save you money later
-Selection gate's (so you can sort out cows who recently calved, cows that need some extra care and dry cows (so that you can put the dry cows on a diffrent ration to improve the dry period wich improves the lactation))
-height adjustable floor (I don't know how tall you all are but with a height adjustable floor you can adjust it to the correct height no mather your lenght)
-If a cow has antibiotics/colostrum make it that the milk goes through the milk meter before it goes into a kettle and thus keeping the automatic takeoff
Not really a tip but in my opion the best "parlour" for milking is a rotary since you don't have to wait or very little and the clusters get near 100% usage during milking so they're very efficient.
Love your video's and I'm always amazed how diffrent your farm is to what i'm used to (The Netherlands)❤👋
Fantastic news Tom👏👏👏 2023 is going to kick off in a very exciting way 😀 one thing to consider is milk cooking, you're almost doubling your milking units, make sure your milk cooling system can cope with the increased milk per hour. Have a great Christmas 👍
It’s not about me or us but if TH-cam is in anyway helping your amazing progress I’m so happy for you and proud we can participate in tiny ways. I’ve been saving your book to read over the holidays in our really bad weather. Looking forward to it.
Go for a 20 swing mate. Soooo much quicker. 3 sheds and your done. Either way keeping the steel work as straight and simple as you can (look at kiwi sheds) and look into an auto draft. Have a good area of space at the head of the pit for all your milking requirements. Having a trolley for your wipes is a massive time saver. 120 wipes in a clean bucket, used wipes in the other, you just bring it with you as you go down the pit, following a grove or slot in the floor. You wanna keep your walking to a minimum in a bigger herringbone, it’s what costs time and efficiency
From Canada...I am so excited for you and your Father with the new milking parlour. I don't farm, but the video of you at the sister's parlour was one of your best, and with this announcement I can now understand your thought process.
You are informative and genuine.
It is the highlight of my day to come home from work and watch you and the ginger guy.
Thank you.
Fantastic news about your future plans Tom looking forward to see it develop 👍💪🎅
Love the videos Tom. I’m farming here in Ireland. Put in a 12 swing over last year. Everybody told us not to put drains in. I put them in the pit and on the stands. Best decision I made. The parlour stays so clean as you can hose dung from the pit instantly. Talk to anybody that has them and they will tell you the same. They save so much time washing!
That’s fantastic news Tom and we get to see it all happen too, I thought the parlour was a good idea after watching the Sisters in Wellies and they don’t milk too many more than your farm does so it makes sense, I also think it’s really good if you to designate a viewing area for people like us , it’s like you are giving something back so thank you and I hope you all have a good Christmas 👍👍
Merry Christmas to you and all the family Tom
Congratulations on the new improvement! Have you watched SaskDutch Kid from Canada? They have a great parlour system. Very clean, 12 aside. Worth watching! He has also done some great interviews with dairy farmers in British Columbia and in California.
Looking forward to going through this exciting new chapter of your farming life with you again. 🎉
Tom and farther couldn't be more happy for you .
Merry Christmas to you and your family Tom . This is what a utube channel should be , investing what comes from the channel back into your farm . At the end of the day you and your family are still farmers working really hard but improving your way of life and animals welfare for the better, good luck to you
Speaking as someone who has worked with both robots and parlours (at the same farm even), and i can say, that neither are wrong options. The biggest and most important factor is that it fits the farmer, and only you can truly answer that. Im looking forward to see the new parlour being built
-Vard
So excited for you! Looking forward to watching everything unfold and the chats with your dad and Mr Wareing with the fantastic voice!! Have a fantastic Christmas and New Year and keep moving forward boys ❤❤
An effective drafting system after the cows have been milked can save time. My advice would be to put as much effort into designing that as the parlour itself. GEA parlour is a good choice. Exciting times ahead
Hi Tom, I am so happy for you & your dad. The new parlour sounds fantastic. I loved watching Sisters in Wellies parlour it was so bright and roomy. I think you have made a good decision. Love watching your TH-cam channel, so interesting. My very best wishes to both you & Andrew, another big year for you & your dad. Merry Christmas to all the family. ❤. 🥰🇦🇺
👀The Ginger Warrior without the Mustache!! Something about your Father is looking younger and full of energy! Must be the Spirit of Christmas!!! We are excited for your 2023 project!!!
a man like luke doesn't come around often.Tom thank you for making these videos and Happy Christmas to all at Pemberton farm
Crack on Tom you and your dad are going to have a busy year. All the best and can't wait to see the video content that will be coming up.
Tom thank you for you and your family making these videos. It’s such an achievement you have made and I’m so happy for you. I have some of your merch and I love it. Look forward to more videos coming soon.
Look forward to the new things ahead.
Make sure the tank room drains run via the pit so if there's a disaster the milk runs in and see it straight away.
Also udder cloths and a washing machine, massive savings on paper towels
This is amazing news Tom. Huge for the farm. I think keeping the location where the existing parlour is was a perfect decision as cows already know where it is. I’m really pleased for you and looking forward to seeing it all.
That will be a great help and time saver. Listen to the people who are happy with their milking systems. Don't over think it.
Exciting times ahead Tom for you, your Dad and the team. I would like to wish everyone on the team a Very Happy Christmas and a fantastic New year. Look forward to the development of the new parlour.
Here in Michigan we’re I milk we have a rotary parlor. But after we had a swing over one I think I like the rotary because you can continuously have cows going in and out
Go on Tom leading the way for us Northern folk! Happy Christmas to you the Fam and the rest of the guys which make things work!!
For the hired temporary milking bail unit, to help row changeovers walking up the ramp. See what someone like Arrowquip can add to the Q catch unit (with the 'anti-drop unit' at the front removed) with extra alley panels and a cattle tub so the next row of cows waiting to be milked is already lined up to walk up onto the hire milking unit.
Tom, thanks for allowing to be part of it all. If you and all the members of Team Pemberton weren’t so passionate you may not of been so captivating. Your passionate about your cows your passionate about the grass that feeds them. What you put into life you get back. My meal times on a Tuesday Friday and sometimes a Sunday morning gets moved to line up with your video. A builders brew packet of bickies and I’m set ready. Phone goes on silent and that’s it the world stops. So thanks again for being entertaining but educating with it. Have a cracking Christmas hope 2023 is one of love laughter health wealth prosperity abundance of all the good things in life.
Biggest Christmas gift for TP Farm! You can be so proud! Well done.
Great to hear what the plans are for 2023 and looking forward to watching their progress on your videos. Thanks to you Tom, your dad and the rest of the Pemberton’s team for many many hours of entertainment and learning. All have a great Christmas and all the very best for 2023
Withing u all the best,love your videos, not a farmer but always had a interest in it
The scale is so interesting. I'm in New Zealand, don't work on dairy farm but grew up on them and have close links still. The last farm I was involved with some work on had 3x 50 bail rotary's. From memory each herd was about 500 head. Average herd size is about 440head
This is so exciting!! Thanks to the entire team for sharing your days/projects. Can't wait to see what 2023 has to bring.
👍👍Congratulations on the decision. And Thankfully you guys get a GEA. The best at this moment
18:49 I love your videos. I love the respect you have for your dad. He also respects all of the work that you do. It’s very clear you both love the work and are moving the farm forward Merry Christmas. An exciting new year is coming your way. Enjoy the time with your family over Christmas. Cheers.
ive been milking on a parlour very similar to the girls in wellies- big issue on that one is height of cluster washers ends up getting shat on due to backing bars being slightly too far back. - i like the middle cluster washers like ifarm wefarm has.
Yay! I was so hoping you would go with a parlor 😊 The robots a cool but for me I like parlors better. I feel they give me a better closer look at the cows every day. So excited for you!
Thanks!
I was really impressed with your video of the Sisters in Wellies’ parlor. I think a similar concept of that parlor would be very beneficial to everyone at Pemberton Farms! Sounds like a great plan Tom and Andrew. The interim may be difficult during the transition, but I look forward to seeing the progress during the construction process. Love how you are moving the farm forward!!! As they say: onwards and upwards, or get left behind.
You could take 3/4 of the showroom and put shelves and use it to keep a ship for small stuff the other part for viewing maybe a steal or two wirh calves so they can see them also. So happy for all of you you deserve it tom
Hi Tom, couple of suggestions . If there's room, put the feeders and hoppers on the outside of the wall and pipe the corn through the wall into the trough. It's so much tidier , cows can't damage or bang on things to get corn and any electric's don't get wet when washing walls (sisters in wellies didn't wash top of wall because of this). And the other thing , a backing gate, you don't have a lot of room, but if u can put one in. Merry Christmas
TDF Honest Farming Derrick Josi doesn’t feed his cows when they’re being milked, takes under a couple minutes to milk, and the cows are back to the feed bunks. He’s milking 800 a day, his goal is a thousand. He’s got a 50-cow rotary.
The farm I work at we’ve got a 30 cow rotary with 800 odd head and the feeder hasn’t work for 20 odd years but the cows come in with little to no bother as ther are only there for a couple mins
But omg is a backing gate good
In the new parlour it is a good idea to put rubber mats in the pit because when your spending that long in one place, might aswell make it comfy
Your channel provides an incredibly good & entertaining close-up into dairy farming, & business planning. Thanks to the team for all the extras it takes to bring us the vids. Best of holiday seasons to you all. 💗👍👍
ABSOLUTELY HUMBLE GENTLEMEN!! You are so genuine and thankful for everything that you and your family and working family have achieved !! Congratulations to you ALL. 2023………….
I seem to make a comment like this more often than not on your videos Tom… Am absolutely made up for you all, what an incredible project to embark on. So we’ll deserved that you’re able to make such an investment. Can’t wait to see it progress, and come and see it when it’s built! Coming to see the shed seemed incredible, can’t wait to see the parlour. Oh… and Merry Christmas to all of you.
Hi Tom….. technically I’m an armchair farmer but my excuse is/was being brought up on a farm in N Ireland. I follow you and a few others on TH-cam and just wanted to commend you on your development plans and your enthusiasm for the future of your milking plans…. your TH-cam content is always a joy to watch. Good luck for 2023 and onwards.
Congratulations on your decision. Not involved in farming but knowing your love for your cows it makes sense to have a more hands on operation. Robots seem efficient but take some of the human contact out of your production. Thanks for sharing - really enjoy watching. Marry Christmas to all the Pembertons!
If possible put your feeders on the outside off the walls game changer for washing your parlour. We done it and worked fantastic.
Congratulations on the next step!! Your Dad's enthusiasm and excitement were self-evident. I would ask the farmer who had the type of parlor you are building WHY to avoid gutters. Once they're in, tough to change and his remark was "Don't waste your money. " Otherwise, it all sounds very promising!
One thing with the autoid/collars tom is in the mornings and evenings when cows bully eachother to try and get in they skip eachother coming in which can mess up your autoid. It’s a simple process to get it right but something to be aware of. Best of luck👍
Tom, congratulations on a fantastic 2022. You work so hard, with so much passion it's a privilege to be able to follow your and your farms journey.
Wishing you, Jo, Ginger, Mrs Ginger, all of your extended family, Luke, Heidi, your endlessly helpful neighbours, the Wareings team, the concrete lads and all the other helping hands that support your farm, a very happy and peaceful Christmas and a successful and prosperous New Year. 💜
For the pit floor put gutters both sides with a slight slope to both sides, it’s not noticeable when walking and makes washing much easier 👌🏻
You new project sounds really exciting Tom. Can't wait to see it come together. Hope you, all your family, and everyone connected with the running of the farm (Team Pemberton) have a fab Christmas. Lastly, but not least, thanks for all the effort you go to Tom to film and edit the very interesting vids you upload every week.
Will work 100% Tom because you have the room to extend the milking parler, plus the other shed can be used for a calving shed
hi Tom
My dad didn’t go to see robots in action he went to see the farmers that took the robots out after six months to five years in use and they made up his mind to go with a 16 swing over unit parlor now and it works perfectly
Hi Tom excited for the new build I’m currently working in a 15 aside double up on the cups milking 300 fresians it takes us 3hrs a milking we definitely need an upgrade. For u do 15 aside double up not swing over 1 person can still handle it
Fair play Tom, you, your family and employees are passionate about what you do and the welfare of your animals, keep up the good work. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Horrayyyyyyyy !!!!!! Another big project. Can't wait. So glad you're going for a parlour. I'd have missed those videos! 👍
Great video. I'm not a farmer, but I know one, and he went to a Parlour setup, and he's always said if he was to do it again on a different farm, he'd get all the cows wearing the collars way before the Parlour was up and running. Maybe it was his cows, but they hated them, and they all went on the hump (his words). He lost around a month of total milk production, and it took around 2 months to get it working as he wanted. Good luck with it Sir. Have a Merry Christmas and a blazing 2023. All the very best to you and the family.
Love that a parlor still connects you to your cows, twice a day. Good choice! Gonna paint it YELLOW?
How much money do you make from TH-cam?
Robotic milker here, I think it's the correct decision to put a palor in. For you the robots would be perfect, but for your farm a palor is a better fit.
Good luck with the build in 2023!
Make the pit as wide as you can. Blenty of sky lights (Free light). Worker & cow Comfort.
Best of luck for the future!
Tom
The best parlour iv milked in was a simple low vacuum parlour with no acr's, we went from a 8/16 to a 16/32 easily a one man parlour, one of the best designs was that the cows stood at right angle rather than herringbone, this made the overall length about the equivalent of a 11 long herringbone, also all the flooring ran away and the pipework ran down towards the pump to save a little bit more.
Good luck
You owe no one nothing Tom your videos are a great insight for me someone who isn’t on or involved in a farm .. we all watch because of you well done to you and the ginger guy … futures bright
You owe me nothing, Tom. I love watching your farm grow it just makes me wish my Gran never sold up.
Can't wait to see the changes in action Roll on 2023