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ONE STICK METHOD: Real Time Demo and Setup
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 เม.ย. 2021
- There are MANY ways to climb a tree, this just happens to be our preferred method right now! If you haven't heard of the "one stick climbing method" - you use one climbing stick along with an aider to climb the tree, then rappel down from the tree with a long rope after the hunt. Check out this video for a real time demonstration and the gear used to get it done.
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@Hunt Urban - Great video man. Just a word of advice, for increased safety for both you and the viewers... When you're repelling down the tree, use the hand that is not operating the descend device, to grab the rope and hold it behind your back at the 5-6 o'clock position. This is the preferred method, as you can use that hand to pinch the rope to your thigh or hip and control the speed of your descent. It's what we refer to as a brake hand in the rescue industry. Otherwise, great video and an awesome set-up.
Respectfully,
Andrew Glass
Firefighter/Paramedic
Totally agree with this assessment. As a rock climber, I would never repel the way you show. Hand down low for better control. The other thing to consider is to keep your hand away from your rappel device in general. You can easily get the skin of your hand caught in the device if you take a quick drop or if you aren't paying attention! Or if you are wearing gloves, they could get stuck. clearing that is difficult and not safe! Thanks for the vid though! Very informative.
@@4morrfun I thought that looked sketchy. Thanks for the info
Should also add a knot at the tail of the rope so as your coming down your brake hand will hit the knot and you'll know your at the end of the rope. Without it you run the risk of the end passing through your friction device and free falling the rest of the way. But that is only really necessary if you don't have enough rope.
There is a lot wrong with this method. I wouldn't trust my life to just one attachment point.
Tip from a rock climber- figure eight wrapping your rope like that creates kinks as the rope twists, so throw it over your shoulders instead in slightly longer wraps and it will stay stronger when packaged up at the end of a hunt.
As a saddle hunter These are the tips I’m looking for. We need to learn from Rock climbers, arborists and linemen….
Thank you.
I would never hunt from that particular set up, nor would I even attempt to climb that way….but I really did enjoy watching this video, you did an amazing job explaining how you climb using this process. Great job on the info, thank you for taking the time to make this very informative video! God bless you brother!!
You are a beast bro. I couldn’t imagine hunting from a tree with just 1 stick and just hanging there for hours.
Thanks for the demonstration.
One limitation of this method of repelling and rope retrieval is that you're limiting yourself to only trees that don't have sizable branches between the floor and your target height. I've haven't pulled the trigger on a saddle system yet, but if I do, I'll use a lineman's climbing rope with a tether to climb and work around branches and just reverse the process for descending, because that makes 90% of the trees an option, rather than 10%. To me, the biggest advantage of saddle systems is being able to use just about any tree in the woods so you can ambush more effectively.
a second tether makes every tree an option
@@Basicsareeverything Can you link any video showing that on a 6" (or smaller) diameter tree?
@@ScottWConvid19 I don't know of a video of any climbing method specifically targeting small trees but doesnt mean they cant. This method can climb anything you can with strapping on sticks. I personally strap sticks on more often than not when I'm in a small tree but that's because I'm "dating a fat chick" in a swamp and want to use my beast stand. I use the saddle more in funnels and wooded food tree areas because deer are more likely to come from any angle. This method has pros and cons just as sticks and linemans do. (you still need two linemens when hitting brances to stay safe.) This big pro of one sticking is way less weight or bulk and can get infinitely high.
@@Basicsareeverything I'm just saying. Not every tree
That's that the bow cord is for. If it got caught up you just keep pulling until the main rope goes through the quick link and then there's nothing holding the rope up. Potentially might get the end wedged as it comes through but some strategic shaking should pop it out.
Dude, by far the best demonstration I’ve ever watched on how to use equipment I’ve never used before. You said it was easy and you actually proved it. I’ve seen advertised “easy to use” videos and they weren’t shown as easy to use. Thanks man.
Man that was one of the best one sticking videos I have ever watched. You made it look easy. I would offer that when you rappel your brake hand should be holding the rope down by your hip. You are much less likely to get a rope burn or to pinch your fingers. I did hear you say you normally wear gloves.
Best one stick method instruction video I’ve watched. Explained everything perfect.
I attended the T-N-T in wva last Saturday and saw karl do a 1 sticks demo up to that point I said no way but I also said that about saddle hunting just did my second season I’ll never go back to a tree stand. Definitely interested in trying the 1 stick method great video 👍
Check out the Notch Quickie for your “carabiner” girth hitch attachment. It’s designed for cross loading. Technically that screw lock oval you are using is also cross loaded. Because there is essentially no static force being applied in this application, using the cheap oval screw lock is probably fine but…take the extra step in safety when you’re getting off the ground. Cool video.
In the tree climbing world, one sticking is a lot like doing a spar removal. In addition to using a tether we also use a work positioning lanyard. Like you mention, the top of the stick is the most dangerous. It only takes a couple seconds to attach the work positioning lanyard. Final thing, we use a device called a quickie that's designed to be side loaded to attach the tether.
This is pretty smart. The only thing I'd suggest is have a tether for the stick while climbing in the event you fat finger it and drop it you don't have to rappel down and start over, you can simply pull the tether back up.
I also know how annoying a tether can be, but damn if it hasn't prevented me from climbing down 100+ feet then back up more than once when I'm working.
my thoughts exactly aside from that being one more thing to get tangled in the dark.
Sweet pouch - I sure hope Tethrd makes those available on July 1, 2021.
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Top savage comment of the day.
Glad I already have a roll pouch for 1 sticking , or I would have to use one of those.
I’ve never done this before, but I’ve watched a few videos, and this seems like the method I’d prefer. Thank you for sharing!
When rappelling hold your break hand lower, also if you hold pressure down on the rope your descent will be much smoother.
I've been hearing about this whole "one stick method" since last season closed out. Now that I've seen a video explaining HOW it's done I think I'm going to convert my setup. I have single steps, which are a nightmare, and three Tethrd sticks, which is much more manageable, but at 5'8" I can only get so high, even with a step aider. Thanks fir the video!
I’m also 5’8 and with a one step aider I’m getting 17’ to the platform but once the leaves come off I’m going to have to figure something out to get at least 20
You guys with these saddles are another breed.
Great video and interesting method.
This comment section is pure gold mine with info from other industries🔥🔥
I need to look into the repel. I’m still doing it with the one stick coming down
Jesus Christ 😂
Very good video!! One quick safety tip, if you’ll move your tag line and right hand, when descending, to below your butt and use your leg for friction, you’ll have less of a chance of catching your fingers in your system! Nice work otherwise
Nice demonstration. I've been experimenting with a similar set up. I stumbled on a comfortable way to put my feet while repelling that you may want to try out. When I repell down, I put one foot on either side of the tree. This helps stabilize my decent and I feel more in control this way. Thanks again.
What will happen, if you slip off from the ladder when climbing up and fall down when the lineman’s belt / bridge is loose? Imagine the situation, alone in the woods, hanging upside down in 5m height. With that harness, you can easily end up to quite nasty situation.
great job w/ explaination, not too wordy, simpe and easy to follow. i"ll try it.
I have been looking for this video for some time I feel. And I love it! Thank you for all the details and video quality this was just Walmart I needed to see for my future setup. 🙏 thank you !
This was great!
I have always been a ground hunter, but this really helps me make a transition.
Dude I was tired before you got to the tree. Good luck with your climbing 👍
Can you post links for all the equipment you used? Ropes, rappel brake thing, carabiner, etc... Mucho appreciated.
Excellent video. I like the method. I see a few things I will do different but I will be doing it this way in general.
Great video. This is the best and simplest setup I have seen
Does this way of doing it limit you to trees with no branches?
This is great...thanks for doing this video Taylor. I was hoping you would make this one.
I wish I lived a little further south. That method is great unless you're in a predominantly cold area. My heavy boots don't work well with aiders unfortunately. Excellent tutorial.
I'm fairly baffled on how this is easier/faster than 3 steps. It's pretty cool no doubt, but I'd literally be in my seat ready to let an arrow fly while someone doing this method would still be making their way up.
Definitely, but I think for long hikes it might be good
It’s not so much about how fast it is…. It’s how little equipment you need to do this. For someone that goes to a new spot every time they hunt or doesn’t even know if there will be a tree to sit in…. This is the way to go. Saddle and a single stick. It’s about being as light weight as possible. Not about speed.
@@DarrylKuehl yeah but dude said its literally easier than using 3 or 4 sticks. it's definitely not. lol
I totally understand, I hunt mobile, public land big timber/ swampland. Let's get some perspective here. We're are talking about a 2-3lb difference (you already have 1 stick). We're not talking about packing elk camp on our backs here. I can see it with a heavy stand, or even a lightweight lock on, if you can't handle the extra couple pounds. But! If sticks push you over the edge on weight with a saddle, there's probably some other things that you should focus on first. After playing with this method, I can still say it's hard for me to wrap my head around the extra work to avoid 2-3lbs.
@@brittpenny6109 lmao totally 💯
Thanks for sharing the info from a fellow AMG brother.
Need to try this!
Do it!
you public land hunters are crazy lol. I'm 31 and in really good shape but I still would be sketched out that that one skinny rope is the only thing keeping me alive in the pitch dark.
Definitely an great setup if your hiking far. I wouldn’t carry 4 stick and a saddle if I’m out 2+ miles.
I liked the video. I am new to one sticking and have been struggling with my hunts on it. Setting the tether to the side will help me a lot. Thanks for the tips. I also discovered that climbing a really wide tree was a huge pain.
16:57 is when I realized… there was climbing sticks in the tree behind him lmao 😂
Rock On Great Demo.. I am a Bigger Guy and used to Gaff instead of trust sticks but these newer methods seem so intuitive, I use the aiters anyway getting into my stand but this will take alot of time off set up and easier on my knees 😆
So... what do you do if your 30 foot up in 20 degree weather and drop your "one " stick?
So with trees with a lot of branches this method really doesn't seem feasible? Or am I missing something?
Okay ,so it's ground hunting for me ;> First I don't really like heights - I've used a 2 part tree climber in the past but now my back is to jacked to pull up with my legs to move the lower portion.
Man you are way understating how dangerous it is climbing above your tether especially with that much slack if you were to fall at that point it would be extremely dangerous its scary. Recommend using a lineman belt to climb up above your tether then moving your tether up. I like the one stick method other than that and will be using it in the future but with a lineman belt as well
So, what happens if you drop your stick (at 15+ feet up) during the setup?
you repel down
I’m just starting saddle hunting. What 40’ was that repel rope an what size an where do I find it ? I am trying your same one stick set up. Thank you for any info
I second this comment
8mm oplux! However the mad rock safe guard is designed for 8.1 mm and above rope! 9mm canyon rope is what you want
One point of concern. The madrock is like a grigri, it doesn't have any brake other than your hand on the un-tensioned end of the rope. As part of the safe usage of these devices you are meant to be in control of that part of the line at all times.
If you were to say accidentally swipe down on the caming part of the madrock without that line under control you could find yourself falling. Like wise if the cam failed.
I suggest either taking a bight and doing an overhand knot on it to act as a brake at that end of the device, or adding your choice of loop on a bight connected to the right line man's loop with a carabiner to tension that end of the line.
This is false, the mad rock safeguard does have a brake and engages immediately under a load....unlike the grigri. You may be thinking more of the mad rock lifeguard....they are different.
Following up here.. given this was a year ago, are you still a fan of the one stick method? Any new lessons learned? I think I'm going to try this soon.. have used a climbing stand historically, but I like that there is less gear.. seemingly more nimble.. less sticks too - seems like a great system
As you mentioned, that belay device is not an auto locking device. Use the device as you wish but that is not how it is designed to be used. Not an advisable method of use unless you know the risks and understand how to mitigate them and even then you are playing with fire. Again do it as you like but please inform your viewers that they need to consider the risks and that it is not proper use of the device. Also bring that brake hand down and to your side as you hold the rope. Especially as you descend. It is entirely possible to get your skin/ glove pinched in that belay device. Not a bad idea to use that Petzl quick link on your anchor system. It should also be stated though that it need not be a Petzl quick link but needs to be a life supporting rated one like the petzl is. To the audience reading this: The cheap stuff at your hardware store is a very bad idea. Not that he advised it but it just wasn't made clear not to use the unrated stuff. This is all coming from a person that spent the better part of five years facilitating high ropes courses ( ziplines, rock climbing and other activities like them) two of which I was the course manager, lead trainer and facilitator. I have belayed thousands of climbs, self belayed my fair share, climbed many times to the top of forty and sixty foot poles to conduct course maintenance and helped thousands more through other high ropes courses. I have been a rock climber off and on for over ten years. Also, I am a hunter myself so I get the desire to get out there to feed the family and such. Just trying to help every not develop a false sense of security. Climb how you want to climb. Just do your own research carefully to understand the risks and how to mitigate them. Find a company that teaches how to use the equipment. The companies that make the equipment often have educational content. As I always taught my staff: There is no such thing as safe (without risk) just safer. Consider what are your reasonable and unreasonable risks. Mitigate them as needed but also be prepared mentally for a curve ball you didn't see coming. After that, enjoy the climb and good luck hunting.
That is more than helpful! I am going to copy your system exactly, such a well put together and valuable video thank you so much !
I actually bike from my house to bow hunt whitetail does in a nearby national forest and up until now I have been hunting from the ground, something that is noth fun and totally frustrating, but this seaso I’m looking into a tree stand system that I can both bike and then hike with and I think this is the ticket!!! Thank you so much
How do you bike if you kill a deer?
Hunting from the ground refines your woodsmanship, I've harvested 1 buck saddle hunting and another buck and doe on the ground, stalking and just patiently waiting at the base of a large tree, knowing bedding feeding area locations and transitions. Scout and be patient. All these Hunting styles have their place.
Fantastic video demonstrating how to do this with ease. Only 1 problem. In the real world where do you find trees with NO LIMBS for 20 feet??? Makes deciding and rope retrieval MUCH HARDER!!
Thanks man, started this up a few weeks ago and have been hoping to find someone else using the ONE to one-stick. The Dynaloc took a little time to figure out how to manipulate with one hand but after some trial and error it really is 2-3 seconds longer to release than a cam cleat. I found getting down to about shoulder to eye level with the Dynaloc as opposed to doing it from higher above made a huge difference.
Is this difficult on trees with a lot of branches? Just curious?
Any chance we can get a full link list of everything you used for that exact set up?
The mad rock safeguard is out of stock. All you need really is 7 foot tether line a saddle a rope man 1 to replace the safeguard but now you can’t repel! Basically you climb up like he did and then you reverse and climb back down the same way using your stick. I prefer this over carrying 40’ of rope! Muddy pro stick with an out on a limb platform on top. The muddy pro cam buckle makes moving that stick up or down so simple! Good luck 👍
@@voiceforthevoicelesstruth5480 do you know the difference between the ropeman 1 vs rope man 2 ?
@@wadesoutdoors1914 weight is the difference
@@wadesoutdoors1914 I would just buy the mad rock and 40 foot of rope and that’s it. From eastern outdoors. One stick up repel down all I do now! Tether has a pouch to hold the excess rope on your hip. Takes a lot of practice but it’s great! MAKE SURE YOU ATTACH THE MAD ROCK CORRECTLY OR YOU WILL DIE!!!
@@wadesoutdoors1914 also bring your saddle your bow, 40’ rope madrock one stick, and a small bow rope, you’ll need this not only to pull your bow up but to retrieve your repel rope! that’s it! The rest of your gear leave in your truck! Keep it light some of these guys have backpacks that look like they are going to war! If your going to bring all that extra stuff you’ll be better off just using a climbing treestand at that point since the weight differential is Null! Good luck!👍
are you using 8mm rope? doesn't the safeguard require 8.1-11mm rope? have you had any issues with that? @hunturban
I gotta get this system asap! I'm not familiar with saddles at all or the mining equipment. I've been using climbers and hang ons.
Great demonstration. I want to try this just so I can rappel down, lol Thanks for sharing.
You should definitely try it! I was skeptical at first, but once giving it a solid shot, fell in love with it.
I’d like to rappel onto a deer.
I used a 5 step aider for most of this past season. Works well unless the tree has much lean to it and let me tell you, a lot of trees lean.
Yep, and that’s no small safety issue, especially if the bark is wet.
Omg I’d be up in my climber having a sandwich and contemplating a nap in the time it took to do this.
Lmk how fast you can climb a tree w limbs lmao
Hey bud,
Please be very careful when using this technique. Do not let your tether get below your waist. If you fall with it below your waist you are looking at a fall factor greater than 1. This could lead to very serious injuries especially with the rope you are using. That rope is made out of technora and spectra, both of which are very static and perform poorly in dynamic uses.
Be safe out there.
I think safety is more of an after thought than actual practice with this bunch. this video was comical
So how do you climb a normal tree with branches. Especially on public land we’re you’re not allowed to cut branches?
Watching non Arborists instruct tree climbing is always entertaining.
I'm genuinely curious. What would you do differently or do you know other videos? I don't want to just take one method and I'd like to learn more.
A couple things in this video are incorrect. First you can rappel with the red Maddock. I've been doing it for 3 yrs. It's may not be as smooth as the black one due to the brake. But it will work. Second using a carabiner in place of a quicklink would not be side loading on a larger tree. If carabiner is set in place right it is still loaded properly. I wish ppl would look stuff up before they give info. On a small tree it is possible to side load. The danger in that is with a fall as well. Rated plenty high enough to handle just human weight. But theirs and alternative if one wants. It's a steel carabiner with a much higher rating. And lastly this stick option is the worse option. A stick using a cam cleat is what works best for one sticking. Or a stick that has a cam cleat mod. He says he's not affiliated with tethrd. But look at all his gear. Check out one stick by ewo. Even out on a limb is better than this stick. Only thing that makes it better is its lighter. Do your homework ppl.
So how do you get your rope back down on a tree that has branches on the way up?
I'm in!
New challenge. Use the tethrd platform as your "stick" in the 1 stick method.
They have a guy here on TH-cam that does this. th-cam.com/video/iVLRxUp8VMs/w-d-xo.html
Third time watching you make it look so easy and yes sir I'm going to be trying this
Seems like it would be just as fast going up using the 3 sticks since you have to stop and remove and then reattach the stick several times but going down is much faster.
Comes down to preference and budget if you want to save and grab a single stick.
Could you make a video on how you pack ur saddle and gear on ur hunting pack when headed to the woods to bow hunt
Looks easy but like u said most dangerous part is being above the safety line I feel like if it fails you would flip and the saddle would slip of dumping you on your head ..
Youve got me wanting to try one sticking with my skeletor. I have been wondering if it wouof be possible to do so with the dyna rope attachment. This is epic. Thank you for sharing.
I usually lean back into my tether and step up my sticks while using both hands to move the tether as I ascend. Keep my tether taught and above me at all times.
Best demo great camera work and best audio plus zero “umms” and “uhs”.
Thanks Don! Glad you liked it.
Great video demonstrating this system and technique. Is there any retention or safety connection on the climbing stick system to keep it from falling when you are repositioning it, except for your own grip? If you were to accidentally let go would it fall to the ground?
If I may add one little piece of my 2 cents. When rappelling, keep your rope feeding hand away from the rappel device. With this little device it’s not likely, however hands and fingers have been known to be sucked up in lowering devices. Have seen it happen within the tech rescue side of the fire dept.
Very good piece of advice... don't need to be losing fingers!
This seems like a lot of work and what happens if you drop your stick?
Is there a way to pull the tether down if it is a tree with branches?
Wow great info
Isn't 8mm out of spec for the mad rock safeguard? Did the rope slip or did you have any issues using a 8mm rope on it?
What about trees with lots of branches?
Things to consider when choosing where to set up. Not only would you have to work around them on the way up but you would have to rappel to each on the way down. Reason enough to find different tree or hunt from ground
Perfect telephone pole hunting setup
@@Justindmoon1982
Not so... rappel down to ground and pull rope down like he showed. If there are any limbs you just keep pulling until end of rope pulls out of quick link
You carry a lineman belt if you plan on hunting trees with lots of branches. You leap frog the lineman/tether around branches, so you are always attached by one of them.
You mean ladders?
Thanks!
Interesting, seems pretty limited to a branchless tree. What happens with branches? Seems like a lot of movement to me.
Why not just use a climbing treestand I'm so confused. This takes forever and can't pass branches
@@joshua_J ya, it's not for me. It doesn't look practical for hunting. Maybe fun for geeking out with buddies on different methods.
Throw tether around above branch, unhook Lineman, throw above branch, unhook tether, keep climbing. Try it with your climber. Lol.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 I use a saddle and climbing sticks. Much less flailing around and can get into any tree as well.
Just move the stick around the limb while your tethered in and go around the limb
Is this a good method for a first time saddle hunter?
Absolutely not
I use my dove hunting waist pouch to hold everything you have there. The two side pouch where box shells goes and the back pouch that holds doves or pheasants... well you get idea.
How do you handle trees with alot of limbs?
Isn't the whole beauty of this system that you can climb trees with branches......then how do you get your repel rope down?
Bow pull cord is attached to the loop end, you can pull the loop end all the way down to you and over the free end. Then you pull the entire rope down.
If you tie an alpine butterfly knot at the halfway point of the rope instead of a quick link, you can just pull on the knot side of the rope.
@@huntfishexplore7636 can you explain this technique more? i'm having trouble visualizing how you would get the rope down with just an alpine butterfly.
@@bobbmonty you need at least double the rope of the height where you want to put your tether. You have 2 ends, one to hunt and repel on and once you've repelled, the other line can be pulled on for retrieval.
Very efficient! Good job.
Thanks for the vid. How many feet do you think you get with each move of the stick? Any back up tether for the stick in case you fumble it on the move, besides obviously rappelling down to grab it?
What happens if you drop the stick?
How do you retrieve your rope in a tree that has limbs? I see how this works in a straight tree with no branches but we don't always find a tree like that.
Matt, here is what I've learned watching a few "one sticking" videos. When you attach the bow pull-up rope to your tether while in the tree or on the ground, you have to ensure its connected to the carabiner side to allow disengagement from the ground. In the event that limbs are present in the tree; from the ground, you would pull the tag end of the bow rope and the tension would release off of the 40' tether line. When this happens you would have the ability to pull the tether carabiner to your person and the remaining tether line would dispense through the carabiner. There are a few other videos that explain this process in more detail. Best of luck!
@@adamprice1415 ok that makes sense! Did not think of that. Thanks!
Seems like a big trade off of safety. For saving a few pounds if u just used multiple climbing sticks. If the "hunting at any height" is your reason you could just carry a couple aiders. Also how realistic is that in cold when with bulky clothes limiting range of movement?
I love it where can this stuff be bought at
Ever considered using gaffs? Way faster and just as safe.
A lanyard would be a good idea to secure the climber during the primary lifeline advance phase
Great Video trying to find the safeguard is like trying to find gold right now, but I got it done. The use of the link vs a carabiner is great safety tip and nugget. Hope you are going to be at the Atlanta Teach and Train.
Definitely going to try and make it to Atlanta!
Nice. I'll stick to my trusty aluminum summit climbers though. Now if I could just stay awake in the thing I'll be good.
Get 4 beast sticks from dan and it will probably weigh the same as your one stick also you move around about 3 x more and it takes 3 x longer to set up.... and i see some law issues coming from aftermarket aiders as non of the sticks are designed to be loaded in that leveraged manner
What do you do about trees with limbs? Seems like your limited similar to a climbing treestand unless I'm missing something?
A linesman's ropes can get you over limbs. You'd climb up to the limb as in the video. Then attach a linemans rope around the tree, then advance the tether above the limb. In fact, if wouldn't be a bad idea to use a lineman' s rope the entire climb as it would provide an additional layer of safety, particularly when advancing the tether rope.
I bring a hand saw for small limbs with my climber
Where did you get that aider at? Can't seem to find one with open tops and in 3 steps.
Any issues using the oplux with the safeguard? I know it’s not within specs, but if you used it all last season I’m curious how it worked for you. Did you use a back-up?