Blew out the Kings, Rockets, Nuggets on opening night, Clippers and the Magic but I guess we don’t got no great wins. From someone who don’t miss a game yall all misinformed bout okc besides Marz. Chill dont no shit bout okc and that jalen green topic about his defense with our system was some of the dumbest shit I ever heard. It really don’t hurt to say I don’t watch instead of acting like u know whats going on with all 30 teams
@@EastSideGeneral1it sucks because i legitimately think they all have some really good insight in certain areas, but some of them just start yapping when they find themselves in areas they are ignorant of. Like it’s ok to just listen once in awhile and ask questions to better understand the topic instead of just inserting an whack opinion for the sake of conversation.
Chill, U a smart guy a lot of times when it comes to ball but u need to accept that u may have some gaps in ur knowledge. Your understanding of okc and their system is atrocious. Lu Dort not a great on ball defender?! Bruh it’s literally the dudes calling card and is easily one of the best in the league. The best according to many active nba players. This along with the Chet injury misinformation and the belief that jalen Green would start is wild
Mavs are winning luka gets bashed, they are loosing he gets bashed. He has become the punching bag of 3 PC members. It's okay to say as of now he aint a 1st team all NBA. Swipa when it comes down to DEFLECTION, you my friend are the King 😂😂. Marz dont even say none no more when Luka catchs strays 😂😂😂. It's like he is tired already
Ok now that swipa had to protect jokic and his agenda let me tell you what really happened. We were dominating them when he was in the game and then they came back when he was out. Then in the second we just blew them out all together. But we were really just attacking him on offense all game but swipa couldnt bring that up 😂
Jalen green not knowing how to play good basketball gives me even less confidence in him making some kind of big leap. Thats a terrible excuse. Mans been playing ball his entire life and is in his 4th nba season. If he still doesn’t know how to play basketball at this point that says a lot about him. How many guys who don’t know how to play basketball at 22 and in year 4 end up being great players? I dont think he’ll be out the league in 2 years or anything like that, but a actual star? Cant see that
Yeah like. I get some of the excuses against what they said about him but those are excuses in the end. Jalen Green is basically the same guy he’s been since HS at some point that is concerning. Even in unstructured environments players still progress. They might not learn how to play Team Basketball but they can at least play well on an Individual Level. But Jalen Green can’t even do that. at a certain point we have to accept he might not be that guy. The irony of the whole he’s never had structure argument is. Tari and Amen both came from unstructured environments before the NBA and Tari even went lower than he should have because of it. Yet they’re both more impactful contributors atp than Jalen Green. The guy with more hype. Who’s competed against more talent. Gotten more opportunities and has spent more years in the NBA is less important to their roster than Tari and Amen. If that doesn’t say anything idk what will
@ exactly. Amen was in the damn OT elite league and was still productive day 1. He was and still is raw but he was able to contribute to winning basketball regardless. Ox was much more reasonable with the 6th man take. Ron and Chill talking about him starting on the thunder was absolutely ridiculous though. Man is in year 4 and still cant shoot consistently or play defense. I think they just find his game aesthetically pleasing because there’s no other solid reason for the passes they give him.
Swipa doesnt realise it. But he does the things that He accused Mavs & Bucks Fans of doing. Why couldnt you just highlight the fact that Joker is playing his Butt off without downplaying the other two importance to their respectiv teams. Mavs and nuggets are a 1st rd exit at best without their guy. However the Bucks are at best a play-in team without Giannis. Btw Jokic is my mvp as of now, followed closely by Giannis.
Swipa will never hold Jokic accountable for anything. It’s always gonna be his teammates fault and if he blames Jokic he’ll just tie it into his teammates so it’s not really his fault.
@@Implementingdynamics Oh I agree with Jokic’s impact, but Swipa doesn’t give other players bail so it is what it is. If Giannis, Luka, or Embiid did this he wouldn’t bring up anything about teammates and just focus on their flaws. He was talking about players blowing by Luka, but Jokic is free eats at the rim and it’s cool because of his impact and the advanced stats.
Love the okc focus. They never talked about in general media despite their historical defense. Ya puttin in work💪 Shout out to Marz for being the voice of reason in a room full of wild misinformed takes
fam sponsorships and ad deals make money, and all their doing is placing som picks because of the sponsorship, not parlay watching. Idk bra but this isn't "shilling out" lol
Naw I said bashing a player and acting like they’re not good because you didn’t hit on your parlay is whack. Never said betting on the game was whack but if you’re just a parlay watcher then there is no integrity in that
people swear they support pc but the moment we start levelling up and making more money its 'shilling out' people swear they wanna see us do well then when we do its a problem of how were doing it.
@MarzTalksSports leveling up by promoting gambling is an L. Whole system of promoting gambling has got of hand. Now you can’t even watch PC without getting a parlay thrown at you
@@jasonholzhausen1093 we are an nba debate show,lets be realistic what sponsorships was we gonna get. it was obviously going to pertain to sports. this isnt hard to figure out. either u wanted pc to level up which is just understanding what sponsorships wed get or u didnt. those are the only options
Marz might've had a brilliant idea, we can get the KAT MVP case moving. People say KAT got that Knicks Aura now. NBA twitter done did a 180. Let KAT give the Celtics 40 next time they play.
So only Elgin Baylor had like 27/20/11 game... ok. MF Luka had 60/21/10, you all can not comprehend how much better Luka really is than anybody else in this league, you can not or you don't want to. What is it? Swipa a clown to bring that stats up while trying to prove that a Kitchen Sink Man is better than the best player ever to touch the ball Luka MF Doncic.
Talking about Jalen green for 30 minutes is kinda crazy like he’s not even a top 25 player or been to the playoffs like people get mad at pen for talking about the raptors but they don’t mind listening to a 34 min conversation about a top 55 player of Jalen green
Jokic is fat he can't play more which means he's dragging his team down. A REAL mvp like Shaivonte Aician Gilgeous-Alexander would do what it takes for his team to win.
As a Thunder fan, Jalen Green does not fit the Thunder system at all. All their rotation players are great athletes/decision makers/can play a role. Jalen Green does not fit that mold at all
I don’t get the idea of taking minutes away from the young guys to play older guys w the same problem trade the old heads & let the young players play thru mistakes - talking about rockets
I’m sorry but for yall to spend 30 minutes on the prize pick thing isn’t good for the audio listening experience of the show get yall bag but I think every ad gets dragged. I’m glad I don’t listen live because I’d hate to sit through it without having a choice to skip through it
You said the perfect team to build around Jokic is athletes plus Jamal Murray, but that can't be it because I don't see a perfect team built around Giannis. So, what is the perfect team to build around Giannis and Jokic to help them get back to the finals and win? I believe Giannis and Jokic would easily clear everyone, including Luka (my favorite player right now), but I have to be realistic.
To answer Mars's question you would have to first be able to tell when they started becoming good because it was not the starter that career that could have been because of maybe the game changed and injury etc. But, if it's was towards the end of their career maybe that player just took a long time to improve and finally find themselves ultimately for both of them they are two different players. In terms of a how great was player A in comparison to player B I could almost never say that player A, that played good for short period of his career could ever compare to other even if in their peak they play better than player B even if they played better at their peak than than other.
you panelists really have to start realizing when marz is trolling you this shit be unbearable cause you’re arguing with someone who’s doing it just to mess with yall
Luka is not even at the end of his career but has had far more Individual and team succes than Melo, pls be serious. Joker is better than Luka and it's okay
@@vonnypooh8564 Just a persisting assumption from Chill because hip injury=bad I guess? It’s annoying as no one really pushes back on this frankly baseless assumption (remember jordan and chill comparing the injury to Isaiah Thomas injury which makes no sense outside the word hip)
@@tayluc777 Vic knows what he’s doing, keep watching you’ll see. I’m really not hip to her game though so I’m not saying you’re wrong I’m just saying Vic is a hell of a coach and I’m sure he’ll figure it out.
@@nykareem2001 Shai is a good defender and no more. Arguably not even top 5 on his team. But since he is the only name given credit on the team and their defense is great, national media just chalk it up to Shai and his 2+ average steals a night (in regards to DPOY) It’s a great example of why the award voting is a clown show
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Blew out the Kings, Rockets, Nuggets on opening night, Clippers and the Magic but I guess we don’t got no great wins. From someone who don’t miss a game yall all misinformed bout okc besides Marz. Chill dont no shit bout okc and that jalen green topic about his defense with our system was some of the dumbest shit I ever heard. It really don’t hurt to say I don’t watch instead of acting like u know whats going on with all 30 teams
Bro really said LU DORT is not a great on ball defender. Like bro, what are u yappin about?!
@@a_proper_snail see what im saying yo its just the dumb shit when people speak with so much confidence and know nothing
😂
@@EastSideGeneral1it sucks because i legitimately think they all have some really good insight in certain areas, but some of them just start yapping when they find themselves in areas they are ignorant of. Like it’s ok to just listen once in awhile and ask questions to better understand the topic instead of just inserting an whack opinion for the sake of conversation.
@@a_proper_snailfacts the only ti chilk town watch the thunder is when they play his King Leflop James
That Jalen green/OKC convo was something else man 😂
Jalen Green would of struggle to get minutes in the Thunder's rotation
Chill, U a smart guy a lot of times when it comes to ball but u need to accept that u may have some gaps in ur knowledge. Your understanding of okc and their system is atrocious. Lu Dort not a great on ball defender?! Bruh it’s literally the dudes calling card and is easily one of the best in the league. The best according to many active nba players. This along with the Chet injury misinformation and the belief that jalen Green would start is wild
Was just thinking he needs a vacay
I laughed when he said Luka “hunted” Dort in that series 😂😂 like what?!
And the fact he said "AD would destroy iHart" he got absolutely shut down in the first matchup lmao
Giannis turns 30 today! Happy Birthday to the bucks goat!
Aint no bucks goat
@@nonamewillbegiven6847clears kareem bum ass
Mavs are winning luka gets bashed, they are loosing he gets bashed. He has become the punching bag of 3 PC members.
It's okay to say as of now he aint a 1st team all NBA.
Swipa when it comes down to DEFLECTION, you my friend are the King 😂😂.
Marz dont even say none no more when Luka catchs strays 😂😂😂. It's like he is tired already
very tired
@MarzTalksSportskeep that in mind when you talk down on others fav players.
@@erikjohnson1435marz isn’t agenda driven in terms of his hate
Ok now that swipa had to protect jokic and his agenda let me tell you what really happened. We were dominating them when he was in the game and then they came back when he was out. Then in the second we just blew them out all together. But we were really just attacking him on offense all game but swipa couldnt bring that up 😂
Coook
You know Swipa isn’t gonna hold Jokic accountable for anything
Jalen green not knowing how to play good basketball gives me even less confidence in him making some kind of big leap. Thats a terrible excuse. Mans been playing ball his entire life and is in his 4th nba season. If he still doesn’t know how to play basketball at this point that says a lot about him. How many guys who don’t know how to play basketball at 22 and in year 4 end up being great players? I dont think he’ll be out the league in 2 years or anything like that, but a actual star? Cant see that
Yeah like. I get some of the excuses against what they said about him but those are excuses in the end. Jalen Green is basically the same guy he’s been since HS at some point that is concerning. Even in unstructured environments players still progress. They might not learn how to play Team Basketball but they can at least play well on an Individual Level. But Jalen Green can’t even do that. at a certain point we have to accept he might not be that guy. The irony of the whole he’s never had structure argument is. Tari and Amen both came from unstructured environments before the NBA and Tari even went lower than he should have because of it. Yet they’re both more impactful contributors atp than Jalen Green. The guy with more hype. Who’s competed against more talent. Gotten more opportunities and has spent more years in the NBA is less important to their roster than Tari and Amen. If that doesn’t say anything idk what will
@ exactly. Amen was in the damn OT elite league and was still productive day 1. He was and still is raw but he was able to contribute to winning basketball regardless. Ox was much more reasonable with the 6th man take. Ron and Chill talking about him starting on the thunder was absolutely ridiculous though. Man is in year 4 and still cant shoot consistently or play defense. I think they just find his game aesthetically pleasing because there’s no other solid reason for the passes they give him.
Swipa doesnt realise it. But he does the things that He accused Mavs & Bucks Fans of doing. Why couldnt you just highlight the fact that Joker is playing his Butt off without downplaying the other two importance to their respectiv teams. Mavs and nuggets are a 1st rd exit at best without their guy. However the Bucks are at best a play-in team without Giannis.
Btw Jokic is my mvp as of now, followed closely by Giannis.
Swipa will never hold Jokic accountable for anything. It’s always gonna be his teammates fault and if he blames Jokic he’ll just tie it into his teammates so it’s not really his fault.
@@BlkStar9930-13-10 it ain’t his fault
34/9/10 is much better
@@Implementingdynamics Oh I agree with Jokic’s impact, but Swipa doesn’t give other players bail so it is what it is. If Giannis, Luka, or Embiid did this he wouldn’t bring up anything about teammates and just focus on their flaws. He was talking about players blowing by Luka, but Jokic is free eats at the rim and it’s cool because of his impact and the advanced stats.
@@BlkStar99 😭😭😭free eats
Love the okc focus. They never talked about in general media despite their historical defense. Ya puttin in work💪 Shout out to Marz for being the voice of reason in a room full of wild misinformed takes
Marz the only one that’s watched more than 3 okc games 😭😭
And Jordan too 👊🏽
Shilling out for a gambling company when yall used to clown people for parlay watching the sport and how that takes away from the game. Sad
fam sponsorships and ad deals make money, and all their doing is placing som picks because of the sponsorship, not parlay watching. Idk bra but this isn't "shilling out" lol
Naw I said bashing a player and acting like they’re not good because you didn’t hit on your parlay is whack. Never said betting on the game was whack but if you’re just a parlay watcher then there is no integrity in that
people swear they support pc but the moment we start levelling up and making more money its 'shilling out' people swear they wanna see us do well then when we do its a problem of how were doing it.
@MarzTalksSports leveling up by promoting gambling is an L. Whole system of promoting gambling has got of hand. Now you can’t even watch PC without getting a parlay thrown at you
@@jasonholzhausen1093 we are an nba debate show,lets be realistic what sponsorships was we gonna get. it was obviously going to pertain to sports. this isnt hard to figure out. either u wanted pc to level up which is just understanding what sponsorships wed get or u didnt. those are the only options
Thanks marz🤧 the Jalen green less hit😂
gotchu
Marz might've had a brilliant idea, we can get the KAT MVP case moving. People say KAT got that Knicks Aura now. NBA twitter done did a 180. Let KAT give the Celtics 40 next time they play.
cook
Jack Hughes goal (New Jersey Devils)
Ant Man over Points
Trae Young over Points
Deandre Ayton over PRA
Auston Matthews goal (Toronto Maple Leafs)
So only Elgin Baylor had like 27/20/11 game... ok. MF Luka had 60/21/10, you all can not comprehend how much better Luka really is than anybody else in this league, you can not or you don't want to. What is it? Swipa a clown to bring that stats up while trying to prove that a Kitchen Sink Man is better than the best player ever to touch the ball Luka MF Doncic.
looks like he didnt have 11 assists
Talking about Jalen green for 30 minutes is kinda crazy like he’s not even a top 25 player or been to the playoffs like people get mad at pen for talking about the raptors but they don’t mind listening to a 34 min conversation about a top 55 player of Jalen green
I might have been wrong on the Cleveland bench. Can’t get them all right. I’m still scared of the small backcourt
What’s worse pen saying Scottie better than Bosh or ticket saying Murray better than penny
@@Jesuspiece10 I’ve never heard anything crazier than Jamal > Penny
@ that take aged like milk 😂 Kuminga good in the hood tho he can fasho slide to the rich to get cut lol
@@Jesuspiece10 No doubt. I was just tryna look out for lil bruh
@@Jesuspiece10 Jamal > Penny was wild though. I’m tryna convince myself that never happened.
Jalen green is a BUM!
Someone explain how im wrong for saying jokic should play more
Jokic is fat he can't play more which means he's dragging his team down. A REAL mvp like Shaivonte Aician Gilgeous-Alexander would do what it takes for his team to win.
@@Luciandl1sounds like he gotta lose weight
Regular season preservation. Play enough (38mpg), reserve a spot in the offs, then avg 48 mpg in the playoffs boom
They were blaming game 7 collapse on fatigue due to overplaying starters in the regular season. Here, explanation served, eat it now, Marz. ;)
@@grumsigrumsi3185 😭😭
Aye Bob Sonia Citron wanted ALL the smoke with Madison Booker
You not lying bout that. Lol you definitely not lying. Madison still the 1 though
As a Thunder fan, Jalen Green does not fit the Thunder system at all. All their rotation players are great athletes/decision makers/can play a role. Jalen Green does not fit that mold at all
I don’t get the idea of taking minutes away from the young guys to play older guys w the same problem trade the old heads & let the young players play thru mistakes - talking about rockets
I’m sorry but for yall to spend 30 minutes on the prize pick thing isn’t good for the audio listening experience of the show get yall bag but I think every ad gets dragged. I’m glad I don’t listen live because I’d hate to sit through it without having a choice to skip through it
It dont even feel like an ad to me when we makin our picks,i just view it as a prediction for whats gonna happen in the games tonight
@MarzTalksSports fax
You said the perfect team to build around Jokic is athletes plus Jamal Murray, but that can't be it because I don't see a perfect team built around Giannis. So, what is the perfect team to build around Giannis and Jokic to help them get back to the finals and win? I believe Giannis and Jokic would easily clear everyone, including Luka (my favorite player right now), but I have to be realistic.
marz switch up on jalen green was not on my bingo book
I know too much ball
to keep lying ab that bum
Y’all are going to eat your words about Jalen Green. He’s only 22 and he came out of the g league.
To answer Mars's question you would have to first be able to tell when they started becoming good because it was not the starter that career that could have been because of maybe the game changed and injury etc. But, if it's was towards the end of their career maybe that player just took a long time to improve and finally find themselves ultimately for both of them they are two different players. In terms of a how great was player A in comparison to player B I could almost never say that player A, that played good for short period of his career could ever compare to other even if in their peak they play better than player B even if they played better at their peak than than other.
what was my question?
Do Ron and Ox have ADHD? They lose their train of thought so quickly even while they have great points
We don’t change thoughts too fast you just listen to thoughts too slow
JORDAN NEED TO BE IN THE STARTING 5 OF THE PANEL
Swipe please stop talking over people. He will literally talk over 5 to 6 people and keep going
Mavs disrespect is crazy lol
Trae young is NOT hitting three threes tonight the accent is too powerful
you panelists really have to start realizing when marz is trolling you this shit be unbearable cause you’re arguing with someone who’s doing it just to mess with yall
Cavs own the Nuggets tbh, even last year they couldn’t beat them, 2 big lineups are the key to neutralizing Joker.
Lol...Joker averaging efficient 30 against two bigs line ups...you mean neutralizing Murray and MPJ?
@@realone296nah I meant Joker 26 shots to get 27 is a W imo, any other team he’d have 50
Luka is to Jokic what Carmelo was to LeBron. Believe or not, back in the day there were people that actually believed Carmelo was better than LeBron.
Luka is not even at the end of his career but has had far more Individual and team succes than Melo, pls be serious.
Joker is better than Luka and it's okay
@ sorry bro, I’m not engaging in no Luka and Jokic conversation. I’m not disrespecting Jokic like that. But have a good day.
@@officerricky3230 where did i compare them, i just pushed back at the analogy. I said Joker is better.
But ehhh nice day to you as well
@@officerricky3230luka in melo in the same sentence is hilarious 😂. Melo is one of my favorite players though but luka respectfully clears him.
@@officerricky3230yawn boy
The Nuggets Drafted Donavan Mitchell and traded him in the Draft
I faded all y’all picks 😂
Aye marz where is that video where you were saying it seems like a different criteria or narrative gets added for every one of jokic mvps
i know what youre talking about but i absolutely couldnt tell u what video it is.
@ i looked it up yesterday. That shit is GONE 😂
@ i found it! the panel ep 412. 'and the 2025 nba mvp is' time stamp 2:19:15 , hope this helps
thunder play defense like they play offense. just without the ball
where does this random idea that chet isn’t coming back from he’s going to be reevaluated in 5-7 weeks he’ll most likely be back after Allstar break
@@vonnypooh8564 Just a persisting assumption from Chill because hip injury=bad I guess? It’s annoying as no one really pushes back on this frankly baseless assumption (remember jordan and chill comparing the injury to Isaiah Thomas injury which makes no sense outside the word hip)
@@a_proper_snailit’s sooooo weird, the word is 5-7 weeks not the whole season 😭 it’s anything we should be optimistic lmao
Idk why Laila Phelia left Michigan just to be a bench player for Texas 🤦🏿♂️ if she got more than 15 minutes Texas would’ve won
@@tayluc777 Vic knows what he’s doing, keep watching you’ll see. I’m really not hip to her game though so I’m not saying you’re wrong I’m just saying Vic is a hell of a coach and I’m sure he’ll figure it out.
@@BIGOXMediahim benching Shay Fd up the flow too after her good first half, hopefully you right
Such a clickbait title
Jimmy butler so overrated I’m sorry. Good player but he doesn’t make a team a contender
Does Marz use ChatGPT when he's looking stats up?
chatgpt has stats?
Yo too hard on Jalen Green he’s only 22
Watching NBA basketball when Notre Dame is playing Texas is mind boggling to me 🤯🤯🤯
Marz enjoy gambling im for it lol
fun as hell
Ron is so nasty
jesus christ chill
GRILLTOWN YOU WILL FEAR THE EMPIRE STATE
Watch Okc lose to the Mavs again this year
This didn't age well
Didn’t Marz Lowry say that Shai is a horrible defender two months ago?…😂😂😂 Bro does not know ball
Erm no
Stop capping he said his not that high on his defense
@@nykareem2001 Shai is a good defender and no more. Arguably not even top 5 on his team. But since he is the only name given credit on the team and their defense is great, national media just chalk it up to Shai and his 2+ average steals a night (in regards to DPOY) It’s a great example of why the award voting is a clown show
Why is this in my feed need to block this I don’t even watch trash nba